Unbelievable Things Doctors Used To Recommend

[@That0melette]

I think a lot of modern gynecological practices are going to be BRUTALLY judged in the future. Women's medicine seems to be critically understudied and I hear so many IUD horror stories that it's honestly scary

[@Miss-Anne-Thrope]

I have a coil fitted and it was the best thing I've ever done but I do think that it's barbaric too. Doctors forcing a T shaped device into the uterus with no anaesthetic and causing severe pain afterwards. This is after they've stuck their fingers up there too while they check the positioning of the uterus. Quite barbaric if one truly thinks about it though the coli has been wonderful for me overall.

[@palomathereptilian]

I really think we will get to one point and judge the hell out of how current medicine simply doesn't know little to nothing about endometriosis, and treat us with palliative options such as BC and many excision surgeries I really wish we will find better alternatives for endo soon

[@mindihunt1930]

I really hope that total sedation for the IUD insertion procedure becomes standard in the future. There's no reason they can't knock you out for a few minutes like they do for a colonoscopy.

[@rach397]

@@palomathereptilian Agreed! Since I was 13 my extreme periods (both in length and flow) were treated with "oh you just need birth control"... Surprise, surprise when at 29 I'm diagnosed with endo just like my mum and her sister, and it only got diagnosed because my symptoms got so bad that I said to the doctor "how bad does it have to get for me to be considered for a hysterectomy?".

[@antiantipoda]

I was screaming my head off during my iud insertion and I heard the FEMALE doctors asking each other. Why does she feel so much pain? Could it be because she had no children? After that ordeal, a nurse thought it was a good idea to shove my face into her breasts in a hug and tell me Jesus would help me. I am an atheist. Ill be honest and admit I felt raped. As a bonus, the IUD was placed wrong and had to be removed.

[@miksterias]

Despite them being horribly wrong, I really appreciate that he still explained what the medical reasoning for these procedures was at the time.

[@jwg0814]

Yeah, some will think they were dumb, but they forget that we know what we know, thanks to their mistakes. The same way, we are doing INSANE things right know... But we see them as a proper way to treat something, cuz its all the knoledge we have, once we get more, we will have better ways. Chemo being one of them...

[@user-g4i6l]

Yeah like the drilling holes thing makes sense, if you've ever had a horrific headache then you'll probably describe it as feeling like intense pressure, what do you feel like will fix that pressure? Drilling a hole to release it!

[@Can0spam]

@@user-g4i6l I still feel like my sinus headache could be greatly reduced by drilling a tiny tiny wee wee hole right between my eye brows. I know this would not work at all, but man it feels like it should work.

[@Ivykitten91]

I’m a recovering heroin addict so learning of the history that it used to be unregulated and sold legally was surprising to say the least. I’ll actually be 14 months sober in 1 day!!!

[@jatnarivas8741]

Now 15 months sober

[@awhoot1]

Congratulations such an amazing thing for you!!! Anybody sober makes me happy. 6years sober from heroine. I always find it so interesting, the history of heroin, and how much it was used as a tincture, and as a cough suppressant! It is such a fascinating history. You should definitely look more into it. What the so-called health experts used to believe is terrifying lol.

[@Preppybabiess]

15 months now :D

[@corinnetaylor7629]

Congrats!!🎉🎉🎉

[@murphythelatecomer4608]

Congratulations on your sobriety!

[@joseandrestorrescardozo9188]

Why is no one talking about the brilliant titles within The Peewoop Times? "Detox smoothie does nothing, studies show?" C'mon, that's pure gold!!!

[@najafriedstrupnielsen]

I don’t think we give Dan’s editing enough credit, the man is seriously talented! Also great video guys, good job!

[@supreme-man]

The editor is Juan

[@Kale897]

Monkey

[@TheLazyBeanss]

I agree, no offense Mike but the videos would be very boring if it wasn't for Dan

[@mehrrizvi2625]

Yess that's exactly what I was thinking while watching thiss

[@starwall88-kv7kw]

Yeah, so true!❤

[@kantui525]

Chemotherapy will definitely be seen as crazy once a more targeted method of curing cancer has been developed. Edit: Please stop replying to this comment. I'm tired. Everything has been said already.

[@Sunsetdreamer0]

This has already started. They have started using immunotherapy when they can instead of chemo

[@ajallen9674]

When my mom got breast cancer ten years ago Chemo was considered the last resort after medication and a double mastectomy. Chemo literally works by destroying everything in a desperate attempt to get rid of the disease. I'm not saying it's unnecessary, but it really should be a last resort.

[@andyf4292]

well, it IS mustard gas

[@dianeclerico1624]

@@ajallen9674 I always say look at Suzanne Sommers they gave her a lumpectomy and said she'd need chemo and she said No and she's been fine for decades!

[@edanagorham6757]

@@Sunsetdreamer0 absolutely, the answer seems like immunotherapy. I really hope it is. Cancer is so cruel, but it’s also really just a slight biological misfire, a stop signal gets corroded. Hateful nature. If it happened to me tomorrow, I’d take chemo so my kids could keep their mother, but Jesus it’s straight poison. Chemo can be life saving, amazing, but as a hyperemisis sufferer I know there’s a genetic connection that means I’ll be extremely ill if I get chemo. I dread it

[@christineestrema-sun9169]

Colonoscopies are hopefully on the way out. A few years ago I worked with a Gastroenterologist from South Korea. She said they used small cameras in capsules instead of colonoscopy. The camera would send the images to a recording device worn by the patient while the capsule traversed the intestines. This allowed not just the colon to be viewed but parts of the small intestine which cannot normally be reached. Pretty cool.

[@letitiajeavons6333]

These cameras may turn into a first line screening. Then colonoscopy and endoscopy can be reserved for patients that need follow up testing.

[@brookek.579]

@@letitiajeavons6333agreed, because cameras can’t take biopsies

[@Dad_Lyon]

Wonder how the camera compensates for lighting. Either long exposure or a little set of LEDs going along for the ride

[@janetd4862]

When I gave birth to my first child in 1980, my wrists were tied down with leather straps…..so I “wouldn’t touch the sterile field”. That was the decade that our town saw a huge influx of new (younger) doctors, and things changed quickly. I think it was because many of the new doctors’ wives said “no way!” to this barbaric practice when delivering their own babies. When I tell people that I was virtually tied down for delivery, they can’t believe it.

[@Nnnmmmkkk]

I’m so sorry this happened to you, that’s so dehumanising….

[@rich7331]

oh boo fcking hoo...

[@rawrxd666]

@@rich7331 found the man

[@genodedemon5109]

What does that even mean "sterile field"?

[@kitty79er]

@@genodedemon5109an area that is sterile is clean

[@Tanyathestoryteller]

I think a lot of what they do in gynecology might be scrutinized in the future as women's health advances. Papsmears and colposcopies and some birth control methods are so uncomfortable and even traumatizing that I can't imagine us not coming up with less invasive and painful ways to do that form of medicine.

[@Wecoc1]

Current oral contraceptives have an insane list of side effects 😔

[@Skatejock21]

just like any drug though, there will always be a side effect. You cant escape that. Just like in surgery, you cant escape the risk of complications.

[@sabrinaspellman9598]

@@Skatejock21 The issue isn't that there are side effects, it's that those side effects are so often that you're expected to HAVE side effects one way or another. I'm sure we can do better than that in the future. But it's not just about pills, IUDs are often placed without anesthesia just like papsmears, that's barbaric, still to this day and we're only bringing it up now

[@LizzyDizzyYo]

​@@Skatejock21​ yeah but we now have laproscopy for many surgeries which is much less invasive than open surgeries mostly used in the past. There is no reason to not persue better methods for doing papsmears, colonoscopy, and other procedures.

[@anasazidarkmoon]

At least they've mostly quit telling us to shove all kinds of random chemicals into our vaginas in pursuit of "freshness". They used to advertise Lysol for that, and as a contraceptive.

[@D3adlySw33t]

Hearing about all these past medical practices makes me extremely grateful to be alive in the modern age of medicine, I couldn’t imagine being put through any of those past treatments.

[@websterri]

Its not so much better bud. "Science" has become a cult, truth be damned, we are doing so much to destroy everyone's life based on trash "science".

[@soph_learns_ASL]

I agree, but just think how in 200 years people are going to look back on us saying, “they thought they had it soooo good. I feel so lucky to be alive in this era of medicine. Those past treatments sound like torture”

[@dwayneolujide7425]

@@soph_learns_ASLikr

[@MRJMXHD]

​@@soph_learns_ASLfacts

[@starcaller6448]

Hey, you’re both right. Every human civilization with medical professionals who genuinely try has always felt they live in a medical utopia and everything in the past was barbarism. And, they all had to deal with medical scams and charlatans. Two thousand years ago it was using urine and camel brains to cure epilepsy. Today it’s 5 minute crafts, Goop and TikTok. And one century at a time we got better. Try to remember that next time you’re feeling down.

[@celticrockergirl]

I think the way we handle skin grafts and burn victims will be one of the things looked back on as harsh. Their are places already using things like fish skin which is showing promise in handling pain as well as healing faster without having to take more skin off a patient. You should look into it Doctor Mike i think it could be a cool video

[@wesleyturverey]

That and also lab grown skin

[@falx1975]

Reminds me of Aimo Koivunen, the first documented case of a soldier OD'ing on meth during combat. His story is nuts. He was carrying his patrol's entire supply of Pervitin (meth) and became separated from them. Trying to escape the Nazis he consumed the entire supply but ended up passing out in a ditch after a while. Miraculously he woke up and skied more than 400km's, got injured by a landmine and survived eating pine buds and a bird he caught and ate raw. When he was found and brought to a hospital his heart rate was around 200 bpm and he weighed 43kg's. He died in 1989 age 71.

[@falx1975]

Sorry not Nazis, but the Soviets.

[@ashleywynne1033]

Man survived so many near-deaths he was probably just laughing at death by the time he did die. Just by today's standards the fact he survived all that would make anyone think he had either really good luck, or for the religious, something/one watching out for him. Can't imagine how the doctors reacted and felt back then.

[@strangerinastrangeland3613]

@@ashleywynne1033 Death did not come to collect him that day. He told Death it was his time, and Death said "It's your call."

[@redteddy135]

escaped the soviets twice

[@anakinstoppanickin]

⁠there is a great video by The Fat Electrician about this very guy

[@julievoiceover]

I think the blanket recommendation of hormonal birth control for literally anything Women's Health related will and in some cases already does get looked at as outdated. I was told by an OB that I "likely had Endometriosis but the treatment is hormonal birth control" which I can't take, so for me and people like me we're just simply "out of luck".

[@frerejacques4391]

I hope so! It's so frustrating when laparoscopic excision of endometriosis is a treatment option that people get told it's birth control or nothing. It's probably because some doctors are inexperienced with the surgery, but they need to be honest and give people their options.

[@beetee4865]

Or like me: I can only take progestin-only pills and they're not working, I refuse to get an IUD because I can barely handle a pelvic exam because of the pain, and I can't afford surgery. I'm basically screwed too and it sucks.

[@renbaker5124]

So true. They really do recommend it for everything. I have severe PMDD (makes me so depressed on my period that I'm not safe) as well as too much bleeding during my period, so I have to be on birth control. Yet, birth control has crazy side effects including increased risk of blood clotting, so I've been forced to go off of it several times for surgery. There's got to be a better way.

[@Arqane]

That's a good example, but also common in a lot of other areas. Medicine is used if it's got a benefit that outweighs the risks and symptoms, even if it wasn't the original intent. On the men's side, both hair loss and ED meds were originally meant for other issues, but they ended up really working well for those two issues, so they started prescribing or recommending them for everyone that wanted them. But there are also people who can't take those, and without other options, they're out of luck. Pretty much the same case with the hormonal treatments... right now it's what they have available that can help those symptoms. It will be great when they have better, targeted treatments with less side effects. But for now even good doctors will likely recommend it as an option if they think the benefits will outweigh the risks.

[@blahblahblah007ish]

This is one I HOPE changes... there has to be another option...

[@starfishgurl1984]

As a blood donor I remember being fascinated watching an episode of “doctor Quinn, medicine woman” when Sully had to give blood to Mr. Bray to help treat some illness he contracted and they were talking about how sometimes it didn’t work and people died but they didn’t know why yet, (because they didn’t know about blood typing and cross reactions), that really reminded me about how far things had come since then and how lucky we are to know what we do!

[@pathotalks6262]

NN

[@debrashort2265]

I remember that episode! I think about it every time I get blood work done. Thank goodness we've made so many advances since then. I have Rh negative blood, and my son has Rh positive blood. Both of us would likely have died if we lived back then.

[@smooshiebear80]

Even more so today, bloodless surgery is considered superior in many hospitals. There are many methods of reducing blood loss to make transfusions unnecessary.

[@mx.n.3682]

1:24 the other headlines on that newspaper 😂😂😂 lol

[@pikusiekuk]

Well spotted!

[@arualblues_zero]

I found some early 1900's medical records here in Berlin, where the practice of treating syphilis with mercury-based medicines is documented. It even mentions that some patients weren't very disciplined taking their meds because they had "the false impression that the meds were making them sicker". As a young doctor back then, this made me realize that a lot of the knowledge we have now might be judged harshly as silly and primitive by some med student centuries from now.

[@maggiemacaskill1037]

I had undiagnosed celiac my whole life and all through my childhood I experienced a lot of drs either not being able to figure out what was wrong wit me after doing some 'very modern' brand new test, a few looking at my mom like she was faking my illness or drug seeking, and a few look me in the eye and ask me if I was trying to stay home from school because I didn't like school, which had quite the impression on me and I stopped complaining of my pain for long stretches of my childhood but my mom noticed it had been the same complaints since I could speak, "my tummy hurts". Not a single dr ever got me an allergy panel. I had to visit a naturopath to get my celiac dx that saved my life. Doctors in general are very unaware of the history of doctors having been wrong about nearly everything for all of history to this day. They learn so much and work so hard, a lot of them take offense at the suggestion that there is so much we still don't know.

[@TheArborphiliac]

You were a young doctor in the early 1900s?

[@arualblues_zero]

@@TheArborphiliac hahaha my vampire cover is blown. No, but I found those old records when I was a young doctor.

[@rebecca-rosesantamaria254]

The irony of doctors creating a more addictive drug because they were worried about too many people addicting to the original. It’s incredible the stuff doctors thought had medicinal benefits and how far we’ve come since then. This was such an interesting video, I love how much I’ve learnt from this channel.

[@valenciageode25]

The world kept using mercury as medicine for thousands of years even though it killed everyone. They assumed the patient died from the ailment, but it never occurred that it may not be effective then. Some even believed mercury gave immortality. We will stop at nothing to drink the shiny liquid.

[@ytk2508]

As Sam-O-Nella once said: “thank you modern medicine, for not being worse than literally no medicine at all.”

[@jsalsman]

One of my friends when I lived in Shanghai was responsible for running wide-ranging evidence based tests of traditional Chinese medicine. Her entire clinic was shut down around 2009 when they were failing to confirm any of it, which apparently was politically untenable.

[@seawolfe683]

Wait......so seahorse bones and rhino horn DONT cure cancer? I don't believe it.

[@AznJsn82091]

Wait, how could your friend not confirm the evidence-based tests? Doesn't the name imply that they are already confirmed?

[@divisix024]

In China, when the CCP says you are fake and not evidence-based, you are fake and not evidence-based.

[@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984]

Yes, there's no money in curing ailments. Temporary aid is where the profit is.

[@victoriaderfus4751]

@@AznJsn82091 Evidence based tests were used to tell if the traditional medicine produced the results as they were reported to do. If traditional medicine X is supposed to reduce fevers but clinical testing finds no difference between the traditional medicine and a placebo, then the traditional medicine probably doesn't actually reduce fevers. In other words, if the traditional medicine X did not reduce fevers as it was reported to do, then then they could not confirm that claim that it reduced fevers.

[@MccooCitizen]

I don’t think we give Dan’s editing enough credit, the man is seriously talented! Also great video guys, good job!

[@MilesNuggetBiggestFan]

Bro you literally just copy and pasted another comment

[@PolishSasquatch]

That malariotherapy one is actually incredible in hindsight. Someone over a century ago had the crazy, brilliant idea to use the high fever from malaria to treat syphilis, and then treat the malaria with quinines or other antimalarials when the syphilis cleared up. Fast forward to the present day, where modern medicine is trying to back away from the practice of using antipyretics to treat mild fevers, because the benefits of the fever to help clear up an infection can outweigh the discomfort the fever puts the patient in.

[@ludwigvonmiseswasright4380]

Too high a fever can result in a seizure. Also dehydration is a real danger while sick, and patients with a fever sleep and feel nauseous. Taking a tylenol to reduce the fever is a chance to get some fluids in orally. Mothers don't just give their children tylenol for fever because they're ignorant of how the immune system works, or because they can't bear to see their children uncomfortable. There are other factors.

[@GmmBeast]

I can't comment on the whole mother's and babies thing. But if you're sick, just drink water then. Why use Tylenol (or other such meds) as an excuse to drink water when you could just, ya know, drink water without taking a pill. Having a low to mild fever doesn't generally cause one to feel nauseous or sleep all day. Obviously if you have a high fever, get some help 🙄

[@PolishSasquatch]

@@ludwigvonmiseswasright4380 agreed, but I did say mild fevers. It's important to monitor a patient's temperature and have a fever reducer on hand in case it gets too high. And you're right about avoiding dehydration. But there's no sense hobbling one of the body's own defensive measures if there isn't yet a risk of that defensive measure itself causing a problem.

[@ludwigvonmiseswasright4380]

@@GmmBeast obviously youve never tried to convince a sick child to drink

[@GmmBeast]

@@ludwigvonmiseswasright4380 I did literally say that I can't comment on mothers and children. Because I have no experience or knowledge. Plus, you didn't say anything about that until the second half of your reply. I was commenting on the first half.

[@crypto9040]

My great grandfather survived the invasion of Normandy and the rest of WWII, and even got the medal of honor for his heroism during normady, but couldn't survive the addiction of meth. Meth is no joke, stay away from it. I am 13 and my friend has been hospitalized because of it, and was paralyzed from the neck Down for a few weeks just because of meth. Thanks for spreading the awareness Dr.Mike keep of the work!

[@crispychipzzz_official]

I'm 14 personally and I'm sorry you had to go through such a thing. hope your friend gets better soon.

[@GhostSamaritan]

Paralyzed from meth? How does that happen?

[@elfappo9330]

I lost most of my teeth because of meth. been clean for 8 years now and i try to get people to avoid making my mistakes.

[@garmedontaiwan4531]

That's terrible

[@laanaalove]

​@GhostSamaritan methamphetamine abuse impacts dopamine which is a key chemical in movement and can cause disorders like parkinsonisms

[@LordStarscreamgirl]

I’m a 26yo female, and I’ve already had two colonoscopies, both times removing polyps- the first of which did come back pre-cancerous. My doctor now recommends a colonoscopy every five years. The thought of having to do that agonizing prep for this procedure every five years for the rest of my life is so exhausting and scary, so I absolutely hope you are right in new technology coming out and making colonoscopies outdated!!

[@golddragoon4677]

Also if there is another method of detecting if there are polyps if it isn’t with a colonoscopy then you will need to do the procedure anyway. Right now I fluctuate between 3 and 5 years as after the 5 year wait there are polyps so I get put for 3 which is clean.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

You ever use the virtual colonoscopy pill camera ?

[@GmmBeast]

​@graylamb3876That's like saying stepping on a piece of glass is no where near as bad as getting shot. Everyone's body is different, everyone responds to pain or uncomfortable sensations differently. It may not be so bad for *you* but to some people it's horrible.

[@ahumanmerelybeing]

​@graylamb3876Agreed! I've had to have two colonoscopies, and the prep is very unpleasant, but in the first colonoscopy, they found and removed a polyp that was on the verge of becoming cancerous. I would far rather put up with colonoscopy prep than colon cancer.

[@ahumanmerelybeing]

​@@GmmBeastBut their point was that colon cancer is worse than colonoscopy prep. I don't think that anyone would say that months of cancer treatment is more pleasant than a day or two of not eating and drinking s laxative.

[@ronmac9522]

Back in the 1960s, in Glasgow, Scotland my mum was very stressed and having a difficult pregnancy. Her GP told her to start smoking as it helps with calming the anxiety. My mum ended up smoking 20 cigarettes a day and became addicted.

[@missynicki86]

As someone who deals with seizures I'm so grateful for modern medicine. A lobotomy or cannibalism as a cure is terrifying!

[@artestichniifilin2701]

Canibalism makes sense tho. They had no understanding of nutrients and likely lacked the means to obtain foods like meat,but humans are guranteed to contain the building blocks for human bodies aswell as being abundant during plagues(if ur alive during a plague ur probably immune) and wars.

[@Psilomuscimol]

Why did they eat people before eating weed or something.

[@user-g4i6l]

Lobotomys are still done now for it sometimes, if the patient or patients parent gives consent and finds a doctor that will do it. I saw a video earlier today unfortunately of a lobotomised little girl, and her mum decided to do it to reduce her seizures. It was made and uploaded recently.

[@janejustin1788]

Lobotomy was the most shocking for me in the video. I can't imagine undergoing the procedure back then for psychosis or other conditions affecting the head and without effective anesthesia like we've today!! I would rather eat a human corpse than undergo a painful lobotomy!

[@MyLittleGreenHairdedMermaid]

The Syphilis and Malaria one is really interesting, and the fact that it actually worked is pretty cool

[@jakepullman4914]

Have to wonder if they couldn't have found another way to heat a person up.

[@kmb957]

But what else happens when the body's temperature increases? Heart valve damage is a big one. Mitral Stenosis is a problem many see around the world that do not have access to medicine to prevent Rheumatic Fever. This leads to heart attack, stroke, and heart failure.

[@weird-bookworm]

reminded me of that iconic smallpox-cowpox story

[@Sunflowersarepretty]

​@@weird-bookwormoh yeah that's what came to my mind too. Beating one sickness by another sickness and then defeating that sickness by a medicine I find this crazy cool.

[@CadenceCanCreate]

@@jakepullman4914WiLl bYeRs

[@jennessabeckett3949]

I think most practices in women's health care will be seen as barbarian in the future. I am in my 40s and it is already changing. I can't begin to tell you how many things I had to suffer through that my daughter didn't when she had my grandson.

[@dietotaku]

as recently as 2014 i was being told that AROM does not lead to the "cascade of interventions" that increase risk of emergency c-sections... despite the fact that it was done to me twice, and happened both times.

[@lillybarnett4027]

Women seem to get it the worst dont they. I wonder what will happen to men in the future when women start to rule the world 😂

[@Chad-sq3ie]

Western medicine has always been a sham and a farce. 90%+ of all health problems are caused by diet and lifestyle problems. 200 years ago, they put leeches on you to "suck out the bad blood". Now they pump you full of nasty synthetic chemicals and slice you up, for the cost of a car if not a house.

[@myoung6067]

One being starving women in labour! If you haven't seen Mama Doctor's Jones' video on this I highly recommend! She discusses how not being allowed to eat during labour is barbaric and not rooted in science.

[@lillybarnett4027]

@@myoung6067 is one of the reasons they give for this in case the women need to go for emergency surgery?

[@caseymacmacl7463]

One thing doctors are still recommending that is absolutely ridiculous is for women with Endometriosis to get pregnant. In 1991 I was single, living on my own, and the doctor told me I had two choices. Pregnancy or hysterectomy. I took the third option and found a new doctor. Years later I did have a baby and, surprise, surprise, I still have Endo 25 years after his birth!

[@OrdinaryEXP]

In what backward Third World country did you receive such stupid advice? WHO, NHS and NIH all clearly stated on their websites that (currently) there is no known cure for endometriosis. Symptoms could be managed by hormonal pills or IUDs, but pregnancy is never listed as an option, let alone being recommended. The doctor who suggested pregnancy needs to be sent back to medical school.

[@lynnebucher6537]

I remember reading years ago that pregnancy would help or fix it.

[@caseymacmacl7463]

@@lynnebucher6537 Not for everyone and it's not the kind of 'cure' you want to mess around with. Even if it doesn't work, you're stuck with the 'side effects; for 18 years.

[@frerejacques4391]

It seems like such a ridiculous suggestion even if it helped! Endometriosis increases risk of infertility and miscarriage, and one of the main 'treatment' options is birth control. They are asking people to stop treatment and start a potentially long journey to have a child, without any guarantees of symptom relief during or after pregnancy. I definitely hope this changes in future

[@caseymacmacl7463]

@@frerejacques4391 I have had 6 miscarriages in the first trimester, 2 in early second trimester and my son was born a month early. All because of Endo.

[@slideshowgurl]

As someone with asthma, smoking that much and then FILLING MY BEDROOM WITH SMOKE BEFORE BED!? Sounds like my literal nightmare. Ugh I couldn’t breathe just hearing about it, those poor people were basically suffocating to death!

[@ussamam1]

Lydia Kang has a wonderful book about this called Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways To Cure Everything. It's a wonderful read. Lydia herself is an MD, but her sense of humour throughout the book makes it such a fun read, couldn't recommend it more.

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

Thanks for my dad's Christmas present recommendation :)

[@timdaley8978]

Lobotomies are some of the most barbaric parts of our recent history. Rose Kennedy comes to mind. A lobotomy almost happened to my grandmother because of postpartum depression and severe anxiety and "hysteria". The only thing that saved her from having it done was unmodified ECT, and unmodified ECT is another barbaric and horrific treatment because it was still in its infancy when i5 was preformed on my Grandmother. And it's something, that according to my father and siblings, completely and fundamentally changed her for the rest of her life. It wiped her personality and changed her brain so much that my father and his siblings have said she pretty much had to relearn how to function in society (which took a few years) and it wiped her memory of most of their childhoods to the point she didn't remember them being born and could only recall the most recent events in her life.

[@AutumnFalls89]

My grandma also had ECT and was terrified of being electrocuted.

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

apparently, the doctor that created the Lobotomy procedure was given a Nobel Prize. i believe, given how horrific and torturous this procedure is, that this doctor should Posthumously be stripped of his award. not that it would undo the damage done, but it would only be fitting for the committee that gave him the award, revoke it for it's consequences.

[@timdaley8978]

@@AutumnFalls89 It is such an awful thing. And I know it's implemented today but in a safe and controlled way that's no where close to damaging. But the way it affected our grandparents is a horrible echo of our recent past 😭

[@timdaley8978]

@@SomeOrdinaryJanitor I 100% agree. The amount of pain and heartache it caused the patients and their families. And the amount of people who lost their lives to it is astounding.

[@southcoastinventors6583]

Lobotomies were actually successful in treating the condition some of the time which why it persisted for so long.

[@VASM160689]

I believe the habit of doctors telling their patients "tough luck, gotta live with those inespecific disease signs that I choose to ignore and not diagnose" is the practice that will get extinguished. Eventually.

[@FrankBrown-c5l]

Don't doctors still have to take the Hypocratic oath which begins, "First do no harm" ?. Nowadays they get around the "First do no harm" thing by doing NOTHING so that they can't be blamed when things go wrong. I am fast losing faith in the medical profession. The degradation of our health service has only one outcome, and that is privatization, where the rich will be first in the queue while those who can't afford private medical insurance get left to die. No insurance ?. Sorry, no treatment, go somewhere quiet and ddie.

[@PolarBearChicky]

I really hope so. I've seen many doctors for some symptoms which I think must indicate something but which they choose to ignore since it "could be nothing" and isn't totally destroying my life. Yet.

[@Carpathianpixie]

I'd love for Dr. Mike to do a video on the book "Medical Apartheid" and especially touch on how barbaric the field of gynecology and obstetrics still is.

[@Karadoxical]

I was just recently having the conversation with my mother (a retired nurse) about medical procedures we think are barbaric and need to change. The top two were colonoscopies and mammograms.

[@mamaof3beasties440]

Well at least with mammograms you can opt to have them done with ultrasound. That's an improvement that's come along recently. As far as colonoscopies go...I PRAY they find some way better to do colon checks. I have Crohn's so I have to go every 5 yr for one and it sucks!! I swear the worst part of it is the prep and not so much the scoping itself. I mean really...drink this liquid that turns your digestive system into a waterfall bc we need to see clearly. UGH! It's the WORST two days before it...but at least the day of you get to lay down, take a nap (bc you REALLY need one after pooping your brains out every hour on the hour), and when you wake up it's all over. They give you snacks of crackers (which is the first solid food you've eaten in three days) and soda...then you get to go home and sleep for the rest of the day. LOL 🤣😂🤣 I have to have a sense of humor about it bc I have to do it to make sure my Crohn's is under control and there's no major issues going on in there. 🤷‍♀ I really pray that someday they can find a cure for Crohn's/colitis so that I and others like me don't have to suffer with it anymore.🙏

[@Desert-Dweller]

​@@mamaof3beasties440I don't know I don't know much about it but I thought people with Crohn's, ibs etc aren't supposed to eat grains. Why do the hospital give you crackers? Isn't there something more suitable?

[@mariaeov280900]

​@@mamaof3beasties440you can't really, mammograms and ultrasounds are actually complementary to each other.

[@jamiefrontiera1671]

I was asking someone awhile ago, how has someone not created a better way to do mammograms that don't involve squeezing the breast between 2 plates. Not just because it's not comfortable, but also because women have all different sizes and shapes of breasts that are sometimes are difficult to work with the plates

[@marjolijnv.3974]

Good point. I wonder what future medics will think of our present medical practices. We might be suprised.

[@RobinHood70]

The treatment of poorly understood diseases/conditions is definitely something that's going to be scrutinized in the future. It's not necessarily the fact that doctors tried a bunch of things, but the fact that they persisted with them despite a complete lack of evidence of effectiveness. Diseases like fibromyalgia and myalgic encephalomyelitis come to mind, but also things like autism, schizophrenia, and even depression.

[@lillybarnett4027]

I think some controlling people like to punish the people who can't be controlled. So they ignore the evidence and continue on with their abuse because they feel justified that the person they are abusing isn't complying with their controlling ways

[@foolishmortal6590]

Oh yeah. Graded Exercise Therapy for ME-CFS was my first thought for treatments that will be looked back upon as barbaric.

[@FirstnameLastname-jd4uq]

ABA therapy for autism. It’s horrendous

[@kathrynharring8270]

As someone who's had a colonoscopy, I appreciate the idea it will go away (hopefully as soon as it can). The prep is brutal and I was scared the whole time leading up to the procedure

[@DrZoonotics]

There is one perk of taking PEG - It treats you like Royalty = you are on the throne allllllllll night!

[@Agamemnon2]

Yeah, I had my first one this year, and I did not have a good time. I'm glad I went through with it, since getting a negative result took a whole load off my chest, and now that I've got a point of comparison, getting a follow-up in 5-10 years time doesn't fill me with dread, but at what cost.

[@101spacemonkey]

It's quite a simple procedure but I've heard in the US they put people under a lot for basic procedures like this which just baffles me. Maybe they do it differently in the states?

[@Hakusan75]

​@@101spacemonkey well, sometimes. I'm going to be put under for a colonoscopy, but that's also because I'm getting an endoscopy of my upper GI tract, too. As for the prep, I have suspected Chron's disease. I feel like I was made for the challenge of staying on the toilet for two hours creating nature's most revolting waterfall.

[@padraigkenny84]

I had one a few months ago for my lower colon, and that was fine; one rinse-out, and I was awake for the procedure. But my dad had some before and he had to flush out the whole thing the day before and that's a whole other ball game

[@das_moendchen3250]

I for myself so wish that there will change something in the ob/gyn department for routine check-ups. It's really painful for me every time (I still go, but I dread it a lot!) and I hope someday there will be less brutal ways to do a smear test...

[@Roxy5322]

There's a company called Teal Health working on an at home cervical cancer test. It's currently going through the FDA approval process, but it's coming!

[@rguess]

Thanks for the great content, my grandpa was just put in the hospital again after not responding for a few hours in a rehab facility, but your content makes me believe that the doctors there can make him better and that his condition will improve and he will be able to deal with his depression. And hopefully thanks to great doctors like you he will be able to be happy in his final years.

[@lillybarnett4027]

Unfortunately this will prob be the death of him. He'd be better off in his home being cared for by someone who truly cares about him and his wellbeing.

[@krystaloftheshores]

@lillybarnett4027 Wow, way to be insensitive.

[@lillybarnett4027]

@@krystaloftheshores truth hurts sometimes. Maybe his grandpa will actually stay alive now

[@ReikoMondschatten]

I think the use of radioactive medicine was pretty crazy, too. I remember reading a quote of a doctor from that time that said something like: "The patient was doing splendid, until his jaw came off."

[@tjet34]

When my migraines are really bad, I have an intense urge to drill a hole in my skull to normalize pressures. I don't, because I logically know the risk of injection is incredibly high, but I came really really close before I got on my current needs. The first time I heard about the ancient skulls, it made perfect sense to me. They weren't "letting demons out", they were trying to get rid of a bad headache.

[@Danielle0785]

I can agree as a fellow migraine patient. Sometime the throbbing on one side just makes me want go back in time since the meds aren't taking the edge off.

[@Mom.3]

Omg… never thought of this that way! Awesome observation 🤔😌

[@FirstnameLastname-jd4uq]

I have thoughts about that during my (probable) migraines. But the pain isn’t even all that bad. Glad to see im not the only one

[@Gamsten123]

Becoming a lab tech made me really appreciate the fact that I'm young enough to not know the procedure of tasting urine to detect diabetes. I've also had colleagues tell me about 'back in the day' how they used to put tubes in blood and urine samples and then using their mouths to suck an exact amount of sample into the tube. Sometimes if they were unlucky it would go into their mouths. I'm so glad we're past that

[@amandal7914]

Hey Dr. Mike! I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of him, but there was a doctor in the early 29th century named Dr. Henry Cotton who worked at the Trenton State Hospital in New Jersey. He was well-known for removing organs, bones, and teeth from patients (sometimes with consent, sometimes without) because he believed that bacteria growth caused mental illness. It’s a pretty interesting topic and in his day, a lot of people found substance in his work.

[@lili-yannzuman1229]

29th? Did you mean the 19th century?

[@rhov-anion]

I thought we were going to talk about some Star Trek doctors, haha! But really, Dr. Henry Cotton's story would be great for Halloween. He was horrifying. The fact that he killed 30% of his patients, that asylum patients had to be dragged screaming in terror because they KNEW how fatal his operations tended to be, and that he forced his wife and children to also have all of their teeth pulled... sheesh! Fun little note: his idea of "just pull teeth, don't fix them" really took off, and when WWII broke out a few years after his death, so many Americans had missing teeth that the Army had to hire thousands of dentists just to fit the men with dentures so they could eat MREs.

[@laineyl5005]

I think that something that might be looked down upon in the future is spinal fusions for scoliosis. As someone who was able to get an alternative scoliosis surgery, I think that technology for spine surgery will advance to the point where people would find it ridiculous that in a case of scoliosis too severe to treat through other means that the first option is making a large chunk of the spine one bone.

[@sam_woodley]

I sure hope so!! I have rods and pins in my spine so I would love if no one else had to ever go through that again

[@Marieee180]

Yes!! I also have rods, pins and fused vertebrae and although the surgery went very well for me, it still sucks that my back is stuck pin-straight and i've actually developped other muscular problems from lack of mobility. Sometimes I wish all those things in my spine could just be removed so i could move freely again

[@Wecoc1]

I think one that will hopefully be obsolete and therefore judged in the near future is non-targeted (or "non-specific") chemotherapy as it works today.

[@buddyhoss]

Good call. Chemo sounds similar to the use of Malaria to treat Syphilis. Hopefully we get the cancer equivalent of Penicillin sometime soon.

[@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984]

Wouldn't count on it, it'll become obsolete fore sure but only to be replaced by a treatment just as innefective but more expensive.

[@ikhebgeennaam2239]

@@buddyhosswell, they are working on it! Modified immune cells. Every day your immune cells fight of cancer cells. They are making them stronger from your own cells. It is absolutely incredible. Iirc its called CAR-T cell modification😅

[@OrdinaryEXP]

@@buddyhoss The closest thing we have nowadays is targeted therapy, which the drug "recognises" the cancer cells and either interrupts their function and replication, or makes the cells more likely to be targeted by the immune system. The problem is that targeted therapy is relative new, therefore many drugs are still patented and very expensive. Another problem is cancer cells are very prone to mutation so the tumour might develop resistance against the drug in the long run, just like how bacteria develop antibiotic resistance over time. I heard that immunotherapy is another promising option, but it is even newer than targeted therapy and insanely expensive.

[@buddyhoss]

For clarification, I meant what i said as an analogy. I didn't mean we'd find a literal Penicillin-like substance to treat cancer.

[@kendratsou5636]

8:23 imagine a doctor trying to blow tobacco fume up someone's ass while they're exploding out diarrhea 🤣

[@anasazidarkmoon]

Oh man, you managed to bring up two of my favorite medical history deals in the same video: malaria to beat syphilis, and soldiers on meth! Have you ever heard the story of Aimo Koivunen? He was a Finnish soldier during World War 2, when Finland was nominally allied with Nazi Germany, and the Nazis provided them with plenty of meth. Koivunen didn't approve of the stuff, though, so his group made him the meth guy while they were on patrol. One day, however, they were trying to ski away from a group of Soviets in pursuit, and when Koivunen felt his endurance flagging, he tried to take some of the meth....and ended up popping *30* pills. He outran his own group, managed to run into, then again outrun the Soviets that had been chasing them in the first place, slept in a burning building and somehow didn't kill himself, blew himself clean out of his clothes, and survived in a ditch while eating pine buds and a raw bird, all while in a delirium. When his own people found him again, Koivunen weighed around 95 pounds and his heartrate was 200 bpm. I'm firmly convinced that Death had come for Koivunen during that adventure, saw him blinking in and out of existence while chanting the true name of God, and just decided to come back later, as Aimo Koivunen actually survived all that and didn't pass on until the age of 71.

[@mariawhite7337]

Death: **is seeing this Fin literally so high on meth that he is naked in WINTER and still not dead** **backs away slowly** I'm going to come back later.

[@gg829]

"nominally allied" - they were allied. Fully allied as in shared information and troops and coordinated war effort. There was nothing "nominal" about it.

[@whyihatelife9736]

why are finnish soldiers always the ones i hear stories about

[@Chuck_EL]

I wanted to add Jack Kirby a famous illustrator and writer for Marvel was a WW2 vet and based Captain America's "Super soldier" program on soldiers getting meth to become "super soldiers"

[@gg829]

@@whyihatelife9736 Nazi propaganda loved the idea of a superhuman doing incredible things. See Wittmann for example (his famous exploit of destroying a column of British tanks in France on his own are almost certainly a fabrication). After the war and into the cold war, a lot of Nazi propaganda was scrubbed for things that can be used against the USSR. Finns were designated the honorary good guys and Nazi superhuman stories about them were preserved and encouraged.

[@sirkusar]

The freaky thing about lobotomies is that it was still happening in recent history. It's not like it was just a medieval thing. Here in Sweden at least, we were still doing it in the 60s.

[@lillybarnett4027]

I know, people act like all terrible things happened way back in history when in reality these things are still happening today they just aren't being talked about. Hidden mistreatment is still a current practice in society. It's hidden because they know it's wrong and continue to do it anyways.

[@laurifex]

Lobotomies weren't medieval (trephination was, but that's a different procedure altogether and used for different reasons); the history of lobotomies really begins with the advent of neurology and the medicalization of psychological care. The idea that cutting into someone's frontal lobes to calm them down only really developed once scientists started making more explicit connections between the brain's anatomy and human behavior--those connections didn't exist in the same way in the Middle Ages. Trephining (drilling a hole in the skull) was usually a last-resort treatment for chronic headaches and seizures in classical and medieval medicine; surviving descriptions of the practice don't indicate that any white matter was scraped away, only bone. We don't know how successful these procedures were (unless the procedure was to relieve subdural pressure, probably not successful at all) but we can infer from the archaeological record that a surprising number of patients survived long enough to grow new bone over their trepanning holes. And we still use trephination today, though we know it as a craniotomy now. TL;DR, not every bad thing comes from the Middle Ages. Modernity is very good at coming up with its own horrific ideas.

[@lillybarnett4027]

@@laurifex agree 💯

[@myztik5716]

1:05 Yes Dr. Mike mentions this in the exact same video you are watching

[@fakhruddinnalawala5451]

I'm pretty certain that lobotomies are a recent phenomenon (~100 years or so). The ones we have historical remains of is for trepanning, which was intended to relieve pressure, but almost certainly did not involve removal of brain tissue.

[@MamaKat40203]

This is what I was taught in anthropology school, but it was quite a long time ago.

[@godrickstockwell1505]

Yeah, there was even a little pop up on screen that said trepanning but Dr. Mike never mentioned it. I remember back in the early 2000s there was a big stir because a woman, I think she was some kind of doctor but I don't remember fully, did a video broadcast of trepanning herself

[@monkberrymoon4042]

@@godrickstockwell1505 Well, he did say that lobotomies are one of the oldest surgeries we have evidence for......so I don't think he gets off that easily. But it's okay, cuz I think he admitted to sleeping through all the history stuff in school

[@Juancam132]

That last fact was actually told to me yesterday by my sister, she told me in her workplace, they almost stopped as a whole doing colonoscopy

[@JinxedZzz]

As a psychiatric nurse, i believe Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), even if less used nowadays and for very specific cases (resistant depression, melancholia), will be heavily considered controversial in the future (it kinda already is tho).

[@yagathya]

I was looking for this comment. During a deep depression, I had to put all the few resources I had to fight against the psychiatrists and refuse ECT. I accepted an experimental treatment by ketamin to have them stop harassing me. It worked well, fortunately. All the psychiatric field is barbaric, scientists have very little undersranding of how the brain work, all treatments are validated by trial and error, they have almost no idea what they're doing. It is one of the last field with a "curing without undersrandig how it works" approach. I hope it will end soon, and psychiatry will be more scientific and less intuitive.

[@summerrayne42]

I absolutely love how you turned all these segments into a front-page newspaper article, and that you turned Bear into some interesting stories as well, which also made front headlines. Very clever😄!

[@Isaacindelicato123]

Thank you for pointing this out, i had to go back and see. So cute 💕🐻

[@EagleEye-oe4xe]

I see you two too, have eagle eyes. That makes us three ones that can see. I wonder if there are four or more.

[@megorex630]

I think Ketamine is about to have a huge resurgence, I have intractable depression (16 yrs, no effective meds for me) and started ketamine infusions last year and they’ve been quite literally a life saver. Ketamine also helps with PTSD and existential dread (I have vascular ehlers danlos syndrome and experience severe PTSD and existential panic attacks) it helps “rewire” your brain and helps to foster new connections that were lost bc of depression. Also it’s super effective for pain management as well.

[@nollypolly]

I wasn't dx with ADHD until I was 45 and Ritalin is a lifesaver. But the hoops I had to jump through to get it were ridiculous and took 3 years after dx! Over the course of 30 years I was on 5-7 different meds for what they thought was severe depression (later BPII) and panic disorder. Nope, just undiagnosed ADHD I've suffered with since I was a child.

[@Findecommie]

Can I ask where you were able to get that treatment? I deal with a lot of depression related brain fog and conventional treatment just doesn't help with that

[@Verymusician193]

12:34 My dad is a gastroenterologist and i heard him saying something about the patient getting the camera in oraly, by swallowing it. I dont know if it was something that doesnt serve the same purpose because i just overheard a conversation between my dad and his resident discussing how boring waiting for it to be digested is.

[@aramattaschaeffer8941]

10:53 MAD props to Sam for lining up the “balancing the humors” line. Insane.

[@ControllerTape]

A huge amount of our dentistry I think feels practically medieval, especially considering that dental insurance often doesn't cover the sorts of procedures that would make it less barbaric. We still _commonly_ rip teeth out of waking patient's heads with nothing more than a local anesthetic-why? Because a lot of insurance providers cover neither root canals nor anxiety management. Even though we have technology to adjust teeth with transparent, removable aligners, most insurance doesn't cover it, so kids-kids!-needing adjustments have to have painful metal brackets glued to their teeth for extended periods of time. I think in 100 years people are going to look at our dentistry and be like "what a bunch of absolute morons"

[@birgittnlilli9726]

Toothache is the worst pain I experienced so I am glad that I have a wonderful dentist and my insurance covers most of the costs. When two of my teeth had to removed last year it was no fun.. and when the pain meds wore off and I had not been fast enough with the next dose I experienced the worst pain I ever had. I dont dare to imagine how it must have felt to have these treatment without pain killers...

[@garmedontaiwan4531]

And everything is so bloody expensive

[@socalso]

Many years ago I needed a root canal. Ins had to refer me to a dentist covered for the procedure. Once in the chair the dentist grabbed my jaw so tight I thought he would rip it off, then proceeded to jab the needle (for the local) in the back of my mouth. I literally lifted a foot off the chair in pain. After he left waiting for the local to take effect I thought if this is how I'm treated for a shot, there's no way he's working on me. I got up, told the front desk no way, and walked out. Sat in my car, called the ins hotline, gave them a piece of my mind and demanded a better referral. With the new referred dentist it was to this day the best overall dental experience I've had my whole life. I did not feel anything. I learned from this that you don't have to just sit and take it. You do have a say in your care.

[@InsaniquarianDeluxe]

The ancient cutting holes in heads isn't necessarily to remove parts of the brain. I've heard theories that they thought that they needed to do that to release spirits; but I've also heard that what it helped do is release pressure on the brain while it swelled.

[@rose_ugh]

That's trepanation! Which does still have practical benefits, like you said, if there's excess pressure on the brain. However, it usually involves removing a portion of the skull bone to provide the releif, where as lobotomies punctured into the actual brain itself, bypassing bone and releasing no built up pressure.

[@nagranoth_]

I wonder if the pressure thing is just people projecting modern understanding on the past though. It's possible, but unless we have some evidence to suggest that's why they did it I wouldn't assume.

[@unitedstatesofbecky]

​@@rose_ughI love seeing when people know their sh*t. 👍🏻

[@payelizabethh]

​@@rose_ughyes and technically trepanation is still used today albeit in a MUCH SAFER way

[@MrThankman360]

1:02 Ok..this has to be where the saying “blowing smoke up someone’s a$$” comes from as a way to say someone is lying or trying to con you.

[@maheleehewawasam2204]

I'm suprised the human species lasted this long 😂 This is really cool look into the history of medication thank you for this!

[@victorthecarguy3126]

It would be interesting to see what they say about today a hundred years from now.

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

well we are made from some pretty resliant stuff. And while I am absolute in my oppisition to capital profit motive... perhaps it was for the best that early medicine was reserved from the masses and sold for the highest bidder.

[@StephenDelRosario777]

Welll if you are any species other than human- if you get a disease you just die. Doctors before the 1900s just made death more painful.

[@Zeldagirlartist]

If it wasn’t for constant testing of ideas and trying to improve like in this video then we probably wouldn’t have lasted so long

[@DonaldFlake-w5g]

Thats hilarious. We shoulda been long extinct

[@fellabenchaou5861]

This doctor, Dr Roxy I think, recently got fired and got her medical license for botching a liposuction while LIVESTREAMING HER SURGERIES. She was warned to stop but she didn't, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on it and maybe other ridiculous medical experts.

[@UnicornsPoopRainbows]

Just to add context, the botched surgery included perforated bowels. How does ANYONE manage to do that while sucking out superficial fat?!

[@annieworroll4373]

I knew about the malaria one. Pretty clever, obviously a terrible idea today but pretty great he figured that out and probably saved quite a few lives. Pretty rough tradeoff, but sometimes that happens in medicine. Thankfully penicillin came around giving us a better tool.

[@emilyvespa3176]

These are crazy! Thank you for providing valid information and somehow always making it entertaining. I feel like I’m listening to a storybook

[@GameOfSims3668]

Your reactions make me laugh, because what you say is true. I also dislike people who spread misinformation about medical advice. You are amazing Doctor Mike.

[@basedshrek9014]

The only problem is that this video goes over many instances when what was once characterized as “misinformation” ended up being realized to be true later on.

[@New_Wave_Nancy]

I just had my first colonoscopy YESTERDAY and I sure hope they come up with something better that doesn't require the hellish prep beforehand. The procedure itself is nothing, as they sedate you with propofol, but the prep was horrible. My bottom has not yet recovered. But hey, glad to hear I don't have colon cancer, and they didn't even find polyps to remove.

[@darthplagueis13]

To be fair, ancient brain surgery likely wasn't done with the intent to lobotomize, though it may occasionally have happened on accident. After all, we're talking about a time when the brain wasn't understood to be the seat of the mind yet. These procedures were usually done to either remove foreign objects (i.e. bone fragments following a skull fracture) or possibly even to release pressure, basically a form of trepanation. What's also interesting to note is that these procedures appear to have had a respectable rate of success, as the skulls that were found to have surgery marks often showed signs of healing.

[@serenapenner3581]

There were times when they also believed that drilling a hole in the head released demons causing ppl mental illness and or other behaviours that were considered out of the norm. 😢

[@tbone6032]

Fun fact about the eating dead people: mummies used to be so common that there would be street venders selling them. This eating the dead thing expanded to mummies (like he hints at) so they became rare

[@kendallbeckloff3110]

I love history, especially the medical side of it. Growing up, my family used to watch a show called Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. So good. Dr. Quinn's nickname was also Dr. Mike. Love this video, Dr. Mike. Thank you for your awesome teaching. :)

[@lindseyray2416]

I think that nasogastric tubes (especially without any local anesthesia) is going to be phased out with time and we are gonna look back thinking “I can’t believe I told someone ‘this is going to be uncomfortable’ as I shove a tube up their nose and down to their stomach while they tucked their heads and drank some water…” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Carebearritual]

IUD placement is insane, I think that will be looked back upon as torture, especially because it’s so often done without ANY pain meds by male OBGYNs

[@angelabarlow2012]

Well I had it inserted by a female Dr. But the pain was HORRIBLE. It took 3 tries it wouldn't sit right and the 3rd try I felt a POP like it pushed thru something and it brought me to instant tears and I'm VERY STRONG person with pain. She asked why I was crying I said I felt a pop and she looked said it was placed right. She said give it 3 months to see how it goes if I had any issues call by 3 months. Well stubborn me waited 6 months saying if the issues would resolve, nope they didn't. I had severe periods for 6 months, I'd have it 19 to 21 Days stop one week and then same again. It was horrible , and all 10 years later I get such worse pain with my periods.

[@TheTuesday11]

I had mine IUD placed unmedicated and I was fine. I’m not going to say it was comfortable, but a mammogram for me hurt far more then an IUD being placed

[@kaceyreed1284]

@@TheTuesday11Everyone's body and responses are different. It's fine that you felt fine, but other women experience intense pain.

[@Emily-hd9sm]

I feel like torture is a strong word - I've had plenty of dental/orthodontic/optometry treatments that were wayyyyyy worse. With my IUD the pain was like a bad cramp, but it lasted a few seconds and was done. Of course, it's hard to predict who will have a lot of pain and who won't, but I think the expectation of pain probably increases the likelihood. That said, given that doctors will frequently prescribe Valium to people too nervous or uncomfortable to get an MRI, I think we could probably do the same for IUD insertion.

[@rachelwhitbeck2421]

Having my IUD inserted brought me to tears, but having it fall out of place - excruciating, terrifying, and they wouldn't remove it until I could get an ultrasound a few days later.

[@vanessavidenova7]

Chemotherapy for sure. Dental implants and fillings in general. Giving birth lying on your back. Surgery. Antibiotics. Opiates. Antidepressants.

[@sophiaisabelle027]

We can always trust what Dr Mike has to say. He’s simply one of the best.

[@KyrenaH]

My mom's boss ended up with a perforated colon during a colonoscopy. She had to be moved to a bigger hospital two hours away. It took months for her to recover. The doctor that did the colonoscopy got off scot-free. It was ridiculous.

[@jerelull9629]

Thanks for adding ANOTHER fear to my upcoming colonoscopy list. It's beginning to seem like the detection might be worse than the disease. -- until it metastasizes, at least.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

Wow. The malaria therapy thing is truly amazing. What an incredibly resourceful way to treat an infection you dont quite understand. I wouldnt be surprised if it worked with other kinds of parasites and infections of stuff. Of course, we have better options now, but id love to know.

[@QueenSaffryn]

The medical practice of having to pay for your own treatment in countries like the US, while also forking over a significant cut of your paycheck in taxes, is definitely something that needs to go.

[@dawn670]

Now I know where the term “blowing smoke 💨 up your ass” comes from!!!!! This was a fantastic episode Dr. Mike!

[@accountfor1reason]

Glad I searched before saying it myself. Beat me by 12 hours.

[@pianoguy5110]

0:23 The term "lobotomy" comes from the Greek words "lobos," meaning "lobe," and "tomos," meaning "cutting... 🧠

[@pianoguy5110]

​@@DefinitelyDrainedI'm glad I could help you avoid a lobotomy.. 🌝

[@nikolkovarikova3448]

I've actually got prescribed methylphenidate (18 mg daily) today for my diagnosed ADHD. I've tried atomoxetine before but had nausea for weeks, so had to stop taking it. I honestly hope it's gonna help me with some of my symptoms which I can't control even if I exert my will or deal with it through psychotherapy. There's literally nothing else to try :/

[@emilyjsweeney]

I’ve been on it for years and I’ve had great results!! I hope it works for you too!😊

[@loljk233]

Methylphenidate is not the the same as methamphetamine. What you have been prescribed is Ritalin, one of the most common treatments for ADHD. Desoxyn (methamphetamine) is only prescribed in certain cases.

[@mo2cubing]

One thing they'll look at as barbaric is the health insurance system. I think it's likely that health will be seen as a cheap thing in the future, since it should be a basic prerequisite of living that you have affordable healthcare. Paying thousands of dollars for one doctor's visit or one emergency ambulance is terrible.

[@Inferiis]

welcome to the rest of the world

[@mo2cubing]

@@Inferiis ikr

[@greenleafyman1028]

That's only in United States. Universal Healthcare was already a thing in a developed countries. America was just a developing country.

[@mo2cubing]

@@greenleafyman1028 so true Not sure why the US hasn't yet lol

[@jimmycarpenter6612]

​@@mo2cubingbecause universal healthcare is not actually a good idea. And contrary to popular belief it's not free either.

[@SpecialCrackVideo]

Oh! The Malaria to treat syphalis thing was on House! He kept trying to treat someone with malaria and Cuddy wouldn’t let him lol

[@Aerixes.]

2:47 when you have 40 IQ but you think that you were a genius

[@bramnet]

Regarding what you said at the end about Colonoscopy, I know my father's GP is already using alternative Colon Cancer Screenings. I don't remember the name of the test or organization in my area that's doing it, but basically they shipped my father a box, he puts a recent stool sample in it, and then ship it back out to them so they can run tests on it to detect the early stages of colon cancer.

[@jpbaley2016]

It’s not as accurate and is based on finding blood in the stool and abnormal DNA. You should google it so your father understands the tests’ limitations.

[@Thememester439]

Im almost certain that Chemotherapy will one day be looked at the same way we look at Malarial therapy now. Like yes, it works, but it also leaves you so unbelievably weak and ill there's no way that this is going to stick as a treatment

[@Klmp13]

I love medical history ❤ You did your research and got these pretty accurate.

[@jocablunar3505]

My mental and physical health gets better every time I watch doctor mike

[@arctic_desert]

I put him on to have something to watch while I eat dinner. Unfortunately this particular video and eating didn't go very well together

[@benni523]

It would be nice to have less intrusive methods in dentistry

[@MonkeyJedi99]

Well, if we could modify genetics to have stronger enamel, and actually get people to brush, floss and gargle on a regular basis... edit: Ooh! Or make us more shark-like with constantly self-replacing teeth!

[@marigoldzephyrnio3647]

​@@MonkeyJedi99i mean some things are out of our control. I had to get a canine tooth removed because it decided to grow in sideways and therefore posed a threat to the rest of my teeth.

[@ispeekrandom6464]

@@marigoldzephyrnio3647 Dude I had a similar thing, my canines were growing in bad too. Had to have surgery to attach anchors to pull them down

[@MonkeyJedi99]

@@marigoldzephyrnio3647 I get that. My wisdom teeth were emerging nearly horizontal and grinding against the rear-most regular molars. By the time they were able to be extracted, enough damage had been done that eventually the two upper molars ended up having to come out a few years later.

[@phoenixking339]

Great video. As someone with crohn's disease, I think colonoscopy is still helpful for catching things like inflammatory bowel disease.

[@jennettea.7807]

I think a treatment practice today that will be negatively judged in the future is ABA (Applied Behavior Analysis) therapy for Autism Spectrum Disorder. It is already heavily looked down upon by those who are autistic and many have called it abusive and traumatic.

[@motherearth7303]

this one. also gonna sound problematic here but CBT for childhood trauma is basically just invalidation

[@johnindigo5477]

​@@motherearth7303by talking through what you feel?

[@sewamazing4498]

That is very true

[@maryolguin4372]

@@notyaunzzzI’ve had a negative experience with CBT as well, for both childhood and adult trauma. It felt very invalidating to be told to look at my reactions to things, instead of being heard out. It made me feel like simply expressing the things that were hurting me was an annoyance to the clinician. And I thought at the time that the issue was me, that I just needed to change my views of things, which could have entrenched me further in the cycle of gaslighting that brought me to needing therapy in the first place. Even if was all just projections, I think trauma and transference should have DEFINITELY been addressed before any CBT.

[@motherearth7303]

@@johnindigo5477 no, it's more nuanced. there are also more therapy modalities than CBT. CBT relies on the idea that your emotions or feelings are distortions or aren't based on evidence, and it is a Behavioral therapy. this doesn't really apply when your entire childhood was made up of traumatic incidents and this WAS your reality. it is much more for anxiety or depression with no comorbidities of trauma, since those things could more likely be considered distortions - but with trauma, those things are trauma responses, and focusing on the behavioral side of things will NOT get to the root of the issue.

[@charlotte.luvsss]

Can we just appreciate the effort he puts in to his videos making then funny and informational

[@extrachromosome1z4]

I swear. That's what I always think. The fact that he has 3 jobs and still manages to make his content quality content is insane to me.

[@andrewbaker7717]

@@VivaSativaMusiche has a point

[@joshuabernard7965]

No

[@5ome5tranger]

no

[@yuvaanbhadha5072]

Facts no postal mail

[@Crowbars2]

8:46 - It's a bit of a shame you didn't refer to the asthmador asthma cigarette that actually, sorta, worked. There were these cigarettes you used to be able to buy in pharmacies between the late 1800's and the 1950's. It was a cigarette that contained belladonna, jimsonweed, henbane, and other deadly nightshades. The idea was that these plants contained antichollinergic compounds like scopolamine, hyoscine, and atropine and they'd _actually_ work to relieve an asthma attack. Although, inhaling the smoke usually made an asthma attack worse for a few minutes before the symptoms started to ease. Once decent inhalers and steroids started to be used in the 50's, the asthma cigarette started to die out.

[@OrdinaryEXP]

I hope those who produced asthma cigarettes formulated their herbal blends carefully...all the ingredients you listed are toxic af and could easily kill a toddler (or even an adult) when ingested.

[@ConnieHirsch]

Thank you for bringing that up. My aunt was prescribed those as a kid in the 40s -- later became a nurse.

[@sallys2423]

Interesting. It seems they were on to the right idea, but not the best way to administer the drugs.

[@breakinganddecorating8108]

Interesting idea for a post apocalyptic scenario like Fallout or The Stand.

[@Crowbars2]

@@sallys2423 Yeah, there's a drug called "ipatropium bromide" that works in the same way as the compounds in belladonna, jimsonweed etc. do. It was first used in 1972, so after the asthmador cigarette died out. It's still used occasionally today, but only when other treatments like a salbutamol nebulizer hasn't worked.

[@jessicalittle608]

I can't remember if it was during a bout of the black plague or yellow fever But during one of them, France had an overwhelming amount of survivors compared to other parts of Europe and that was because the doctors in France were ahead of their time and didn't believe in balancing the humours as an effective treatment. I always found that interesting that at least someone had some sense in them

[@m3ryl._]

Doctor mike. never quit youtube. love your videos

[@FlooffyNewfie22]

I still don’t know how he can do all the jobs he does. I would be so tired all the time, but he still give the same great energy! ❤️ (And all the little details are hilarious, like Dino bear 😂)

[@jitendradhaka1624]

We do compliment Dr. Mike always, but let's take our time out and appreciate Dan and Sam, who are the backbone of this channel behind the cam...isn't it, folks?

[@MikaGinelle]

I've had both a Colonoscopy and a Pap Smear, and I can say I would hope they find a way around the Pap Smear more. It's done too often and such a pain.

[@sarahmoellenberg]

It’s interesting to see how diagnostic tests and treatments have evolved over time and how they’ll hopefully continue to evolve. I wonder how the Dr. Mike of the future will discuss what we’re doing now.

[@mfaizsyahmi]

I disagree that the ancient practice of trepanation is evidence of lobotomy. It may be just to relieve cranial pressure from trauma or osmosis which is a more critical and more prevalent condition.

[@stellangios]

Yes! I was about to say that. Trepanation was known to be for relief of pressure on the brain (and to "release evil spirits" which is less medically sound, but nevertheless NOT intended to damage or remove parts of the brain.) I can't believe they conflated the two like that. Horrible researching. Literally seconds of research brings up National Library of Medicine citations on what trepanation actually was.

[@emmacharliehth5011]

I think the use of contraceptives as treatment for a lot of women who suffer from a multitude of conditions, with little actual diagnostic tests will be frowned upon in the future where there are treatments that aren’t as invasive or harmful to the patient. They seem to be used as a cure all and overprescribed, same as SSRIs.

[@dreamernz8937]

3:29 the side news articles 😂😂

[@zooycuddle9207]

Something to note is that treating syphillis with malaria had many cases of fatality, this was overlooked though as people felt it was better then nothing. If you want to research more about it you can check Extra History's vid on it.

[@pedrostormrage]

These were wild (then again, hindsight is 20/20, and those "treatments" seemed to make sense considering the beliefs they had at the time). This certainly makes me appreciate more all the advancements medicine has made, and highlights the importance of evidence.

[@xenxander]

How about the ever-popular "Scroll of Cure Blindness on self"? I love that one.

[@madeleineyeo4949]

I really hope you’re right about colonoscopies. I have a hereditary bowel condition that means I need yearly colonoscopies to remove polyps. I would love an alternative for myself or at least my children if they also inherit it.

[@davehiggins2003]

C.o.p is it? I forget the name, a friend of mine had it, rife in her family really, not a nice thing.

[@ranonampangom2185]

Just don't have children. Solved.