**Unbias** Mesus Brings Receipts For Ryan Upchurch... Damn man..

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Cliff Beats

Cliff Beats

29 күн бұрын

Link To Original Video: • Receipts for @Upchurch...
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@SaintMesus
@SaintMesus 28 күн бұрын
What up homie, definitely wasn’t taking a shot about the oxygen mask, just being thorough about the convo B Luce and I had. And appreciate the fair review. Much love homie🫡
@Tha_Ginger_Avenger
@Tha_Ginger_Avenger 28 күн бұрын
We know dude. This has gone way past ridiculous and it ain’t because of you. 🫡
@CliffBeatsOfficial
@CliffBeatsOfficial 28 күн бұрын
Of course brother. Nah I know that wasn’t a shot. Some people who aren’t familiar with performing may not know about the benefits or it’s necessity after a live gig. Just wanted to clear that up a bit so people didn’t spin it on you. It’s all love here bro. I can’t do anything besides support all of you and still be here when the smoke settles. Appreciate you as always boss 👊
@Seth-og3vz
@Seth-og3vz 27 күн бұрын
Are you and cliff best friends now?
@debbielesley1523
@debbielesley1523 27 күн бұрын
​@@Seth-og3vz😂
@djrandalruckus1
@djrandalruckus1 27 күн бұрын
@SaintMesus I know it's Sounds Hard to Believe/Understand. I was a D.J. & made beats I did have A Lot of People around me. I had people I did gigs with & I spent time with at Parties & there Have been More times then I can Count where I would have someone text me or See me in Person & Be like Hey D.J. --------- Was at ---- Club last night said you guys Were Killing it at Club Chance last week. I would literally be Like Who ?. We knew each other we D.J.ed the same Places & Had mutual friends , but I had no Clue who they were talking until a few weeks later we ended up D.J. Dueling at a Club & then I realized & Knew oh This is That D.J. I just hope it's something like that , that can be worked out.
@old-school1969
@old-school1969 27 күн бұрын
Go back through Ryan’s releases and you’ll find that for each and every one there’s drama dreamed up by Ryan. It’s like clockwork.
@njyates8802
@njyates8802 24 күн бұрын
And to push an album drop, too 🙄
@Illthallion
@Illthallion 28 күн бұрын
I like this Mesus gentleman - truth bullets and receipts. Internet trolls, this is the right way to respond to someone in a debate. Take note.
@joshmason1460
@joshmason1460 28 күн бұрын
He can spit too!! Check him out!!
@toasttoasted3492
@toasttoasted3492 27 күн бұрын
​@@joshmason1460F A C T S!
@eunheehunter
@eunheehunter 28 күн бұрын
Tom did the right thing by Not responding. He always takes the high road. He doesn’t have time for Ryan’s drama 🎭.😊❤ Now look at all of this craziness.
@nismojukerich2994
@nismojukerich2994 27 күн бұрын
Had time for Mac Lethal's though 🤦 😂
@CCook-wv1gk
@CCook-wv1gk 27 күн бұрын
@@nismojukerich2994 It wasn't until after Mac that he said he wasn't going to diss anyone again, he didn't like the way it made him feel. Church shouldn't be responded to anyways after starting beef out of thin air.
@RollMeOne_Kenobi
@RollMeOne_Kenobi 27 күн бұрын
@@CCook-wv1gk I'm not surprised it made Tom feel that way. People who accidentally m*rder people often have lifelong regret🤣
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
tom is chicken
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
@@CCook-wv1gk easy excuse to duck, total cop out, and I say that as a fan. Still a fan, but that was an L to do Mac like that, then duck the next who wanted a piece
@carolyne8797
@carolyne8797 28 күн бұрын
Church saying fake beef before an album dropping with a straight face is crazy to me. Does anyone else think that’s crazy? I mean that’s exactly what he did with Tom. Like wtf?
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
what's fake about it?
@keithschwanke3384
@keithschwanke3384 28 күн бұрын
I had many friends that loved upchurch early on and something about him never felt right! Dude looks like he’s wired 90% of the time which is another return off. Never been a sub for him and looks like I never will..🤯
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol wtf...? "something weird"... could ya be any more vague...?
@OnyxKwina
@OnyxKwina 28 күн бұрын
That BX LIVE where Ryan called in & spun the facts about Acal & Mesus seems to be what finally pushed Mesus over the edge. People pretend to “not notice” if Ryan is being unstable/crazy because his socials & podcasts rarely get views anymore. Sad man. Ryan needs some help either mentally or detox wise.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol wut? Mesus losing his shit when he, mesus, called in to BX was when he started losing his shit. go listen to that. mesus makes HIMSELF look malicious and nutty
@OnyxKwina
@OnyxKwina 26 күн бұрын
@@JackSutterEtc I did & Talk about one sided. 😂 But that’s BXs & all his yes men are paid. You guys never ask for receipts & just swallow his koolaid blindly? He was talking sh*t & calling everyone out… Now, how’s he respond to a direct DISS? With a remix vaguely hinting in 2 bars? 👌🏽 Ryan’s turned on everyone he had. And the death of K. Rodney situation.. INSANE. You gotta be high or stupid to believe & defend his actions, so many contradictions. He shouldn’t instigate rap battles cause he’s NOT a battle rapper. Mesus has a sh*t ton of dirt on ryan. Ryan knows it. So he can never acknowledge the truth no matter what esp on wax, like he claimed.
@smokestackmac3441
@smokestackmac3441 28 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Upchruch starts a beef with Tom right before he drops his album talk about a hypocrite or maybe he just forgot
@KibitoAkuya
@KibitoAkuya 28 күн бұрын
Wasn't it basically the lead single of the Album given how he dropped it? (I asume the first single drop of an album is the lead, but i might be wrong)
@gunmunky3760
@gunmunky3760 28 күн бұрын
​@@KibitoAkuyaDoesn't matter if it was the lead or not. It's still a diss track, which he used to promote his album
@NickHBOhio
@NickHBOhio 28 күн бұрын
Wrong, it’s a song ON THE ALBUM 😂 nt tho
@NickHBOhio
@NickHBOhio 28 күн бұрын
@@gunmunky3760it’s ON THE ALBUM, yes he dropped certain songs before the album, he does that with every album he does😂
@gunmunky3760
@gunmunky3760 28 күн бұрын
@@NickHBOhio Yeah, no shit lol. He was using the diss specifically to create drama to make people listen to it lmao. You missed my point entirely
@Gulicktheemu
@Gulicktheemu 26 күн бұрын
A phone call instead of airing crap out on the internet is how Tom & Adam became great friends and we reap the the benefits with 2 dope colab albums from them. We had no idea that there was a beef until we found out the laundry had been cleaned and it was all good. That’s how real men handle shit. Ryan needs to man up.
@bubblesbubbles2727
@bubblesbubbles2727 28 күн бұрын
Ryan needs an intervention 4real
@NickHBOhio
@NickHBOhio 28 күн бұрын
For what? Wanting to be LEFT TF ALONE by these people?
@B-Real859
@B-Real859 28 күн бұрын
@@NickHBOhio😂😂 he literally asked for all this 😂😂
@RyanB257
@RyanB257 28 күн бұрын
@@NickHBOhio “wanting to be left alone” Immediately makes 2 diss tracks on Tom, when Tom didn’t even do anything. 😂
@mysunsburneraccount2076
@mysunsburneraccount2076 28 күн бұрын
Dudes nose looking like rudolph, that's alot of snow
@mysunsburneraccount2076
@mysunsburneraccount2076 28 күн бұрын
You can't say anything even I'd it's factual about ryan.Ryan.. his fans thinks he does no wrong
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve 28 күн бұрын
What requires it to be fixed is Upchurch to quit lying
@ushauntings2981
@ushauntings2981 28 күн бұрын
You are correct about answering people when they message you. Appreciate your messages back and the help you have given me. Appreciate ya brother
@matthew9626
@matthew9626 28 күн бұрын
BxBeastBoy, the reactor that they were talking about, also has a history in this whole process. BeastBoy used to fan out hard for Tom Macdonald and did every single track that Tom released and ranted and raved on them. But then once Upchurch started paying attention to him, BeastBoy flipped his script and totally sold out for the success. Everything that Tom and anyone else that Upchurch has gone after has received nothing but hate since.
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
That sounds very similar to another reactor... Maybe flawd. I'm not saying your wrong but it's funny how the narrative changes depending on what reactor , people are talking about. And yes flawd is a reactor,,that's where his bread and butter is..
@CCook-wv1gk
@CCook-wv1gk 27 күн бұрын
@@deliriouswhome1 Difference is Flawd is actually honest, and that is why he actually sees success. Church lied on Flawd, then Flawd corrected it. BX's entire channel at this point is focused entirely on hate and that's why his is never going anywhere. BX tries to manufacture fake evidence and then rant about it online. Some reactors are clout chasers and some are real, it's pretty easy to tell the difference.
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
@@CCook-wv1gk 🤣 flawd ain't honest.. please. He continuously downplays any artist talents he doesn't like.. He did that with tom until , tom gave him attention.. you don't have be honest to be successful.. I don't who told you that. Again I'm not comparing the two.. you seemed to of missed that part. They are the same at this point , just opposite ends of the spectrum. Ii will say flawds motivation is more about jealousy and hate.. Flawd knows he can say something in his little echo chamber and people will go out spreading whatever he tells them..
@CCook-wv1gk
@CCook-wv1gk 27 күн бұрын
​@@deliriouswhome1 I didn't say you have to be honest to be successful, because it's clear that plenty of dishonest people are successful. I watch most of Flawd's reactions and he didn't downplay Church until he started lying about him. And that only happened because Flawd didn't care for his diss track on Tom, and it seems like that most of us didn't care for it either. My main point was channels spreading positivity are more successful than channels focusing solely on hate.
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
@@CCook-wv1gk no you said flawd is successful because he's honest.. that's exactly what you said. You even said it's the reason he's more successful.. So ,reacting to Upchurch and tom McDonald has nothing to do with flawd success, jumping on the political bandwagon , again had no effect. I love how two KZbinrs can be exactly the same , and you try make a way to morally accept one over the other... As if there not both creating the same trash
@misstlc3
@misstlc3 28 күн бұрын
Cliff you are the first person I watched that picked up on Ryan using the word acquaintance. I too was like wait what? This shows you do really listen to people and why you’ve been able to help so many. And now I can’t see to type. 😢 Much respect ❤❤
@420Doty
@420Doty 28 күн бұрын
Not only did I pick up on Ryan saying acquaintance, but I found it really odd that he knows mesus "FIRST NAME"! If that doesn't scream you know him then don't know what does.
@macjeni
@macjeni 28 күн бұрын
@@420Doty if you're going by rap name his first name would be "saint" wouldn't it. Adam calls him Chuck.
@420Doty
@420Doty 28 күн бұрын
@macjeni I wasn't going by his rap name. I was meaning when Ryan "Said""as to the rapper who's name I'm not saying, Doug.... Doug". Now I do t know mesus real name. But mesus did not say that wasn't his name. So I'm taking it as Doug is mesus real first name.
@jeremiahfyan
@jeremiahfyan 28 күн бұрын
​@@420DotyOk thanks Sandy. Hey, since I called you Sandy, its safe for everyone else to assume I know you and your name is Sandy, right?
@gargamel3393
@gargamel3393 28 күн бұрын
I was actually on Church's side when all of this shit kicked off but I have a different opinion about this now. It's either by design and he's being targeted, or that fuckin adderall is cloulding his judgement. I did a lot of drugs when I was younger. I can look at this dudes eyes and know he's on uppers. I've been there. Watch his older vids if you don't believe me. He's different. Everyone battles demons, especially when you're in the spotlight. I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just saying I hope he wins the battle with the addiction demon because that's a real mf. I've defended him up to this point, but him denying he knew Mesus as more than just a random acquaintance is clearly either bs or he doesn't even remember. I apologize to Mesus for thinking he was in the wrong. Cliff, the Creeker 2 album was a straight banger. I don't know if you guys (you + Kid) did the supposed Creeker 3 that's coming out, but it would be a damn shame if you didn't. Your mixing and backup vocals were always dynamite. God Bless.
@DimebagWuest
@DimebagWuest 28 күн бұрын
All you gotta do is look at Ryan's eyes..he needs help and to get cleaned up. No doubt Ryan has talent but not being honest with him, only leads to negative harm for himself. Drugs will cloud the memory and having yes people all around him is damaging, if you care about him..BE HONEST WITH HIM!! He is bouncing and bouncing like Tigger..i will pray for him man!
@andylingle6646
@andylingle6646 28 күн бұрын
How would he know he is a good artist if he didn’t know who he was
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
didn't know who he was, in the sense Mesus claimed, through memory and in association with adam on a few tagalongs. did know, after mesus claimed he and ryan were friends like adam and ryan were friends, was some artist he came across on social media, liked the sound of, and doesn't have any visible association to Adam. Adam, who by the time ryan followed mesus, ryan already didn't trust or like or associate with.
@Moparman47
@Moparman47 28 күн бұрын
Why would he say your to good of a rapper and go be the good artist that you are if he doesn't know him? Why is he lying?
@stevenlaurin6059
@stevenlaurin6059 28 күн бұрын
Bxyeastboy the youtube predator reactor that hits on 13 year old boys reciepts on youtube video called THE WORST KZbinR YOUVE NEVER MET
@Annakaydyct
@Annakaydyct 28 күн бұрын
Found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpSqlauHitdkerMsi=fjOWFjGX6NBqHVgN
@hyperflowfans
@hyperflowfans 28 күн бұрын
Link it!
@stevenlaurin6059
@stevenlaurin6059 28 күн бұрын
@@hyperflowfans ://kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpSqlauHitdkerM
@hawgwild13
@hawgwild13 27 күн бұрын
He the reactor that kisses Ryan ass..😂
@BoldDreadman
@BoldDreadman 26 күн бұрын
Real talk. Most toxic dude you ever met🙃
@138NastyNate
@138NastyNate 28 күн бұрын
As a former heavy drug user/addict I can tell you Church was high af in that video. His pupils are the size of saucers and he is pale and sweaty. Hope he gets the help he needs. I stopped following him awhile ago because I could tell he was using and was tired of him and his drama machine he like to run....f&ckin tweekers
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol
@666krewskater
@666krewskater 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch looks like he likes uppers
@jasonmoore3786
@jasonmoore3786 27 күн бұрын
TweekSquad needs to wake up and save their boy before its too late. Ive been in law enforcement 22 yrs and can see when someone has fallen off the cliff. Dude needs rehabs like yesterday.
@angelog82281
@angelog82281 28 күн бұрын
If Ryan doesn't know him then how's he know he's a good artist
@TheWilku22
@TheWilku22 28 күн бұрын
Because Church lied and all of us know this
@angelog82281
@angelog82281 28 күн бұрын
@@TheWilku22 he's lost his mind
@TheWilku22
@TheWilku22 27 күн бұрын
@@angelog82281 true that
@MakingLemonadeFromLemons
@MakingLemonadeFromLemons 25 күн бұрын
Exactly what I've been saying.
@henrikn7802
@henrikn7802 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch looks fried 🤯
@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing
@purplebutterflywithabrokenwing 28 күн бұрын
Ryan needs some help 😔 it’s sad to see him destroy friendships for no reason 😒
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
Why do people think it's for no reason? Because no one's dropped a cause .. that's kinda dumb ain't it..
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
dupe
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 27 күн бұрын
Do you know what the difference is between friends and work aquaintences is, why do yall think that church is friends with everyone he works with, yall said that about him and tom also, yall thought they were friends too cause they did one song together, is it because adam said so, did church himself ever come out and say they were best friends, do yall see any pics of them doing anything church does in his everydsy life with his true friends like riding side by sides,dirt bikes, 4 wheelers, or anything besides doing music and shooting videos, yall are dilusinal, if you think just because he did a song with someone thst they are automatically ftiends facebook has yall so confused over what real true friends arechurch aint going crazy or on drugs, look in the mirtor,are yall friends with everyone you work with, do any of your work aquaintences have friends that know you personally, i sidnt think so, yes mesus was probably at church with adam while church and adam were working, and then think of everyone there adams tem, churches team, churches friends that he actually does stuff with his fam at the time, his security and anyone else that works for church then at shows ya got all the fsns there too plus staff and security, do yall really think hes gonna remember one person hes never done any songs with
@gregoneal8880
@gregoneal8880 28 күн бұрын
Look I love all these dudes music but when Ryan said they are shitting on reaction videos go look back at some of Ryan's old videos he was shitting on every reaction videos that didn't like his music
@sternbergimagery
@sternbergimagery 28 күн бұрын
Church spend like a whole weeks bashing reactors who didn't like him saying the "n -word"
@gregoneal8880
@gregoneal8880 28 күн бұрын
Yeah he made fun of the reactors who didn't care for his music videos called them all kinds of names made fun of how they looked and what's up with his eyes they're pinned he looks like he's tweaking
@sternbergimagery
@sternbergimagery 28 күн бұрын
@@gregoneal8880 he losing his grasp on reality & it's sad there's all these internet yes men continuing to play into all these conspiracies just to keep him all riled up. Church needs to seek some kind of help & re-humble himself because he got lost somewhere along the way, he just hasn't realized it yet.
@mysunsburneraccount2076
@mysunsburneraccount2076 28 күн бұрын
You got to watch what u say about church online... his fans will never admit he has been OFF for some time, and the moment you say something... they will cry cry cry... dude needs help, if not for him, then for his baby thats on the way and his girl...
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
off... how?
@mysunsburneraccount2076
@mysunsburneraccount2076 27 күн бұрын
@@JackSutterEtc just watch his streams,
@Annakaydyct
@Annakaydyct 28 күн бұрын
Mesus handled this as gracefully as possible.
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
🙄 your kidding right.. Bro almost had mental breakdown on his live.. then gets butthurt because someone doesn't remember him. It made for a decent diss track, but I wouldn't call that graceful.
@kristin2115
@kristin2115 27 күн бұрын
​@@deliriouswhome1 your name is very fitting.
@deliriouswhome1
@deliriouswhome1 27 күн бұрын
@@kristin2115 wow,,insults and a lame one at that.. Can't say I'm surprised..Very Christian of you.. Your representing Mesus well.. Deliriouswhome btw is a play off the christian band deliriou5, so you really stuck your foot in that big mouth of yours.. Can't say something intelligent, i guess you have use some lame insult to get attention. Congrads you got it.. and now look unintelligent for it.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
as *deceptively* as possible
@DianaMiceli-Billingsley-kj4ln
@DianaMiceli-Billingsley-kj4ln 28 күн бұрын
You’ve got great integrity and great reactions. As a fairly new sub, you’re my favorite for real. I’m watching the body language and speech. You can clearly see that Mesus is telling the truth, same as ACal. It’s Upchurch who has started all of this drama by first dissing Tom. All of these men are friends together, and Upchurch is the boy who continues create drama, lies, and rumors. He’s a psychopath liar. Upchurch needs some mental help or an intervention.
@marilynkeegans
@marilynkeegans 27 күн бұрын
Yes you are on the money body language tells all ,Ryan body language tells me he's definitely on something, so he's probably delusional and suffering with mental health you can see it looks like he could have had help from real friends
@smalltowntexian6239
@smalltowntexian6239 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch's pupils were the size of dinner plates damn.....guess his dad was right. Church needs to check himself into rehab bro
@666krewskater
@666krewskater 28 күн бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Dudes for sure got a drug problem
@TheWilku22
@TheWilku22 28 күн бұрын
His eyes are weird in general. Its obvious hes taking something
@potheadzndrama215
@potheadzndrama215 27 күн бұрын
💯
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch can't say anything about it cuz he came with all facts and receipts and he killed him in diss track rest in peace Upchurch could not have happened to a better person
@darkhorse1989
@darkhorse1989 28 күн бұрын
He definitely tried to go watch Captain Kirk when Ryan was on his channel a couple days ago they just acted like none of those receipts mattered
@Nielsen3866
@Nielsen3866 11 күн бұрын
Rest in peace Upchurch is a good one! Thanks for the laugh!
@cardboardinkcollector3639
@cardboardinkcollector3639 28 күн бұрын
Church has issues. He needs help
@scottcherrysr2368
@scottcherrysr2368 27 күн бұрын
Ryan Upchurch is on some goofy shit anymore. That dude lost his fucking mind.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
how so?
@blakecarroll8275
@blakecarroll8275 28 күн бұрын
I used to love church's music, but I can't stand him anymore
@ShadzVibez
@ShadzVibez 28 күн бұрын
I’ll see the hype about Ryan at all. I never listen to a song of his and wanted to rewind it
@Abears_
@Abears_ 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch’s own fans are calling him out on a lot of his stuff but he still refuses to acknowledge it. I still like Ryan’s music but his other videos of him talking about other people have really gone to far and he needs serious therapy
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve 28 күн бұрын
Ryan isn't busy he just sits on line starting shit
@johnathon5799
@johnathon5799 27 күн бұрын
I’m with you bro. I’m just praying for Church. Something is going on. No clue what it is. As an addict I destroyed relationships with people who had nothing to do with anything. Those friendships are gone forever. These are guys I went to combat with. They’ll never talk to me again. It’s my fault so I won’t whine but I hope that’s not where Church is headed.
@RyanB257
@RyanB257 28 күн бұрын
Either he actually doesn’t remember because of the drugs, or he is lying. As you stated even if you are going through some things if someone shows up at your house and you at the time acknowledge they are there, you know.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
he doesn't remember cuz it was more than half a decade ago, people in and out of his house all the time, of all sorts, was only a handful of times and only cuz Adam brought a lil tagalong a few times.
@RyanB257
@RyanB257 25 күн бұрын
@@JackSutterEtc What an excuse. Because I remember people from back when I worked security and talked to which was actually a decade ago. But let’s say you’re right. Either way mesus jogged his memory with receipts.
@crystallynn5258
@crystallynn5258 23 күн бұрын
​@@JackSutterEtc your everywhere saying this but they literally were messaging each other like a month ago. This isn't what your describing. Just like I've said before, the people still supporting church in this are obviously blind to the facts.
@newbeginning2045
@newbeginning2045 28 күн бұрын
12:31 tom ain't worried bout some raw shirtless potato callin him out 😂
@markaustin5912
@markaustin5912 28 күн бұрын
It's weird church called Tom out in the shower 😂
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch is so delusional it's not even funny
@jeddodon
@jeddodon 28 күн бұрын
I always hoped ryan and mesus would work together...i guess this is what we get 😂 Mesus only speaking facts Ryan on the other hand is delusional.
@biosec9361
@biosec9361 28 күн бұрын
I found Upchurch a few years ago and really liked his music. The last like 6-12 months it's seemed like he's just been going off the rails. It's tiring. If you always have drama, YOU (Ryan) are the problem. Ima look up Mesus tho he seems like a dope dude, and I've never heard his music.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lame take, this is rap
@TheJokesterSCR
@TheJokesterSCR 28 күн бұрын
Dude, Church has been losing his mind for a while. I don't know if it's drugs, alcohol, or some kind of mental health disorder. I'm not even trying to be mean when I say a mental health thing... cause that really could be what's happening. But, he's been talking about his local police have some kind of conspiracy against him and all kinds of other weird stuff.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
what indicates he's "losing his mind", exactly?
@crystallynn5258
@crystallynn5258 23 күн бұрын
​@@JackSutterEtc thinking helicopters are following him is one example.. along with the one the op mentioned above. Don't be so blind. You can like church but acknowledge things in front of your face at the same time. Otherwise, your nothing but the crazy follower everyone is talking about.
@tammiehuthmacher322
@tammiehuthmacher322 27 күн бұрын
Tom & Adam are the example for anyone that has a real or perceived beef. Instead of letting rumors and internet commentary create problems, Tom called Adam and the rest is history
@charlespendley6360
@charlespendley6360 28 күн бұрын
Ryan needs to leave the Adderall alone and get some sleep.
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
Addreall is a legal drug you get a perscription for for ADHD like ryan has, nice try though
@666krewskater
@666krewskater 28 күн бұрын
Pupils look like he’s using coke
@iNSANE0621
@iNSANE0621 28 күн бұрын
​@@jasoncanada8178people also abuse it. Like i did. Just because its a "legal" prescription doesnt make it good. Adderall is an amphetamine. Its in the class of meth.
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
@@666krewskater thats making false accusations just because something looks a certain way doesnt mean that it is, thats your opinion,
@rmzlife
@rmzlife 28 күн бұрын
​@jasoncanada8178 Ryan said in a video that he used it to stay up to make music. Just like pain pills just because you have a script for it doesn't mean you can't abuse it. Keep riding though.
@flawedobserver4057
@flawedobserver4057 28 күн бұрын
UpChode is Done Tho.... He Has Lost His Mind....
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
how so?
@BellaBlayne
@BellaBlayne 22 күн бұрын
@@JackSutterEtcHow so? Are you blind???
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 22 күн бұрын
@@BellaBlayne apparently so, cuz way I see it, upchurch is on point
@bryguy9231
@bryguy9231 28 күн бұрын
It’s been clear that Ryan has been taking heavy Ls. Tough break homie
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol
@keithschwanke3384
@keithschwanke3384 28 күн бұрын
Is it wrong to say, that probably half his followers are there just to see what the hell he’s gonna do next!? (Not musically)🙄😂
@m.g.sailors225
@m.g.sailors225 28 күн бұрын
What needs to go on is that the church needs to sober up a little bit. Been there, done that. It's not worth the fruit stripe.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
what indicates he's not sober, r that he would need to be, if if he wasn't?
@dancornwell162
@dancornwell162 28 күн бұрын
mesus has some nice skin. my goodness.
@nickk2299-
@nickk2299- 28 күн бұрын
Wtf?
@RyanB257
@RyanB257 28 күн бұрын
It keeps the lotion on the skin!!!
@aaroncobb7219
@aaroncobb7219 28 күн бұрын
Buffalo bill 😂
@nickk2299-
@nickk2299- 28 күн бұрын
@@aaroncobb7219 😂💀
@HexiiSky
@HexiiSky 28 күн бұрын
church been on some shit since covid, i unsubbed then. didnt know it got this bad
@zaphael7238
@zaphael7238 28 күн бұрын
Honestly I wish this wasn’t happening, UpChurch seems to want to make enemies out of friends… which is just sad. I know people can get forgetful during a mental break but I can’t help but think he’s lying and he knows it. I hope he gets help.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol
@happywebster7151
@happywebster7151 27 күн бұрын
always appreciate the insights you drop cliff.
@beckyleavitt7808
@beckyleavitt7808 28 күн бұрын
BX is toxic. Bro, you would never do what Church is doing. I've got huge mental problems, too, but going on the internet and talking ish is childish. You would have picked up the phone, considering a circle of friends are involved...like a man. I have to call it like I see it. I hope Ryan gets help.
@Dank-rc6mt
@Dank-rc6mt 28 күн бұрын
BXLikesYoungBoys is more than toxic.
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
Because when the truth comes out he wants it on the internet thst way the fans kmow whats really going on rather than keep it private and hidden, air it out,
@DimebagWuest
@DimebagWuest 28 күн бұрын
​@@jasoncanada8178Once again, face reality Jason from Canada..he needs substance abuse help period.
@StephanieEMT16
@StephanieEMT16 28 күн бұрын
BX is 💯 flaming this up
@misstlc3
@misstlc3 28 күн бұрын
@@jasoncanada8178I get what you’re saying and I can appreciate that. I can agree that sometimes between other artists sure Where I disagree is with not every member of your family, not everyone you’ve dated, not friends and certainly not about a grieving family calling them grifters, fake,saying their child was never found etc. Some thoughts are just best kept to yourself. All this shit took away from his music and pushed people away. You really can’t be the victim in every freaking scenario and sometimes you either have to own your own shit or understand why you keep letting it happen. Either way it takes reflection and help not surrounding yourself around people that just agree with you no matter what. That’s a dangerous path.
@yolandatorres4370
@yolandatorres4370 28 күн бұрын
I'm with you that I love all these artists in the middle of this. They are all amazing and talented. I also get when you explained sometimes artist will start a beef before an album release to help with exposure BUT for me this has gone too far and for too long. I am honestly concerned for Ryan and I applaud how maturely Tom, Adam and now Meesus have responded. Adam released a video that was very heartfelt and was sincerely trying to reach out to his friend and squash this. Ryan continued dissing Adam and even said something about his family. So Adam finally has had it with Ryan and his last video he let him know he crossed the line. Meesus did amazing by not being disrespectful but also was not going to allow anyone lying on him. He let Ryan make an ass of himself by simply showing the receipts.
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
Do yoilu realize how many people ryan has at his house thats where he does his videos, his studio is rhere so he records there also, he had his family there at the time mesus was there with adam while him and adam were workong along with his people,adams people, do you know how long ago that was when he was there, do you actually think hes gonna remember one person that hes never done any songs with, if you met someone a few times through a mutual aquaintance andcthey came out and said they knew you personally even though you have never hung out, or even shared any personal info with them how would you react
@DimebagWuest
@DimebagWuest 28 күн бұрын
​@@jasoncanada8178Do you realize what a dope addict looks like? How can you not want to support Ryan getting help? How many famous artists need to die before their FANS are honest with them? Otherwise..you don't really care period.
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
@@DimebagWuest for your infp, if you were ever truly a fan of his then you would know that the drugs he does hes admitted to, weed, mushrooms and the legal perscription adderall, hes far from beig on any other drug,you actually have to have a brain to comprehend this, do you see or hear the music he puts out time and time again, not the disses just te regular music like desparado, necks too red, james dean, a person thats doped out wouldve fallen way before all thos and went off the deep end, its something that you want to be true because you dont agree with something hes said or done, was it the video with the light bulb, if thats the case go read the book pf Luke in the bible chapter 10 verses 33-36, that explains the lightbulb thing, and with the res its all there too, Jesus said in Luke that the time is coming where everything will be exposed all truth will be exposed the ones living in the dark which is sin will come to light which is God, go baxk and look at ryans career from the beginning who was the first artist he helped that screwd him over, it was luke combs, who tried out for the voice bit got cut because they didnt think he was good enough so church put him on the song Outlaw, then luke signed and they wanted church also but he doesnt want to just ddo one genre of music he cant be boxed in, whats the next way to get after him to either take him out or send him to jail or make him quit, pay someone else to make accusations because they dont want the truth getting out that they take advantage of artists, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out when someone like him wants to be left alone so he can do what he wants and then ya gor people making false claims agaonst hm yea hes gonna go off and air it out
@jasoncanada8178
@jasoncanada8178 28 күн бұрын
@@DimebagWuest i know what a dope adict looks like and how they act, i worked with 2 of them both were meth users, one always stayed up late and would fall asleep at work the other one awas all fidgety, you cant tell by the eyeys, i also worked with someone that actually looked stoned ecery day but has never done any drugs and passd all drug tests, so tellme again hes on drugs besides the ones he says without knowing for sure, i dont judge people based on looks like yall do, i judge based on actions or on their character, i could take one look at you and say you look like a pedo, is that fair or is that true just because you look like one doesnt mean that you are one
@yolandatorres4370
@yolandatorres4370 28 күн бұрын
Ummm did we both watch the same video? Also, I'm sorry did I say anything negative or untruthful? Do you realize how you're coming off and talking to a female like that? Unnecessary, unwarranted and unprovoked. Have a good day
@michellelee2573
@michellelee2573 28 күн бұрын
Upchurch did video after this called Fleas...u can really tell Ryan's loosing it on that one, he turned comments off cause his fans was goin against him...plus Upchurch released "No Title"(3) late last night, hes says its not a diss, but sounds like it to me... great reaction btw
@luxter858
@luxter858 28 күн бұрын
Dont know that upchurch dude and never watched him but he looks crazy to me
@NobodySVK
@NobodySVK 28 күн бұрын
Mental health
@patchesblue155
@patchesblue155 27 күн бұрын
Love ya Cliff...this is all crazy stuff. Good job staying outside as much as possible.
@midnighttker9920
@midnighttker9920 23 күн бұрын
I'm new to watching these reaction videos. I have a whole new respect for you and others who do these. I think it's awesome you're a ghost writer and now have 6 studios. Hard work always pays off. Hats off to you. Thank you for going into your background a little bit to help us newer subscribers to understand what you truly do.
@PuffyPandaOG
@PuffyPandaOG 27 күн бұрын
I've been following Upchurch for years now. He has some really good music, but every time I turn around, someone is going after him or he's going after them. The number of videos I've watched from Ryan that are based on him and someone else going at each other is laughable 😂 That being said, I don't know much about this entire beef that's going on. So, thanks for the upload !
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve
@Lewisgriffin-jo6ve 28 күн бұрын
I can now see why Ryan dropped out of school at the 7th grade cuz he wasn't smart enough to pass it
@insanityplease
@insanityplease 28 күн бұрын
Probably was 18 when he dropped out
@wildhorse6343
@wildhorse6343 28 күн бұрын
LOVE TOM!!!!
@user-ey9zh8fe5y
@user-ey9zh8fe5y 28 күн бұрын
All this shit is crazy. Was a huge fan of Church for yrs. The jealousy of hate he spits of his friends is pathetic. Church is so green w envy that Adam is doing great without him. I just can't support Church anymore had to unsub. Wish him the best though.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol
@thisthat7238
@thisthat7238 27 күн бұрын
Upchurch doesn't want to use bridges, he just burns them down tryin to get clout.
@BellaBlayne
@BellaBlayne 22 күн бұрын
I like all these guys too but damn…Mesus brought receipts that can’t be denied! Upchurch is looking crazy…again.
@RebeccaPerkins-kf6bg
@RebeccaPerkins-kf6bg 28 күн бұрын
Love mesus flo and lyrics
@allend8421
@allend8421 28 күн бұрын
Hope Dyan Church song is next. Mesus dropped a diss after this video
@CliffBeatsOfficial
@CliffBeatsOfficial 28 күн бұрын
It’s up *
@claranielsen3382
@claranielsen3382 28 күн бұрын
​@@CliffBeatsOfficial please Cliff.
@KoyotePenny_420.
@KoyotePenny_420. 14 күн бұрын
That cracks me up how Upchurch put his link on there.lol😂😂
@notanormi
@notanormi 28 күн бұрын
I really love how respectful you are about this BS. I hate how everyone tosses their dirty laundry around on the internet these days, but it really does look like Upchurch needs some REAL friends to step in and steer him towards getting some help before he goes completely sideways. Jmho❤
@chrispatten943
@chrispatten943 28 күн бұрын
Damn Ryan looks twacked/tweeked in those videos😮
@ReckTA1
@ReckTA1 28 күн бұрын
Brov u are catching up fast..hard work pays off..keep the hustle..n promote
@wildhorse6343
@wildhorse6343 28 күн бұрын
USED TO LOVE RYAN!!!!!!! He needs meds!!!
@chaos42207
@chaos42207 23 күн бұрын
Love how Mesus brings the receipts to the party. Upchurch has lost his damn mind
@deanhyson4508
@deanhyson4508 25 күн бұрын
This must have been a hard reaction vid for you. You did a good job. I have alot of questions but they would be for Church.
@kevinsykes2549
@kevinsykes2549 27 күн бұрын
Upchurch says he has no idea who mesus is. And then says he's a dope rapper. How would he know if he has no idea who he is?
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
forgot he met him came across his music on youtube a few months ago, followed and commented and, not remembering he'd met this guy before through adam a handful of times, even liked the mesus comment about a collab. mesus assumed ryan remembered him... or just decided to assert it, force ryan to react, and act like the reaction is some kind of slight. either he doesn't believe ryan, or he knows better and is deliberately trying to instigate while appearing like mister reasonable.
@StephanieEMT16
@StephanieEMT16 28 күн бұрын
The real truth is, Ryan is the ONLY one having a problem with all of these guys. 🤷🏼‍♀️ at some point you have to see who is the one who has a problem, look who all still get along and collab. There’s only one kid throwing rocks and laughing about it, only to find out he’s standing by himself and everyone can see who threw them. Unfortunately Church is too talented to be doing this.
@StephanieEMT16
@StephanieEMT16 28 күн бұрын
BX is 💯 stirring THIS pot.
@kelp01
@kelp01 28 күн бұрын
I totally wanna check out the video about how you came into the industry!
@Archangel3083
@Archangel3083 28 күн бұрын
Nah, I like Ryan’s music but there ain’t no making sense of where he’s coming from. He’s incapable of maintaining long term friendships or relationships and when he blows up it’s always someone else’s fault. He’s bipolar with a twist of narcissist.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol... projecting much?
@chasefrazion
@chasefrazion 26 күн бұрын
No, Ryan backtracked and then trashed Mesus’s talent. And remember him being at his house talk about a flip-flopped.
@kevinsykes2549
@kevinsykes2549 27 күн бұрын
Upchurch has lost his mind. He has started shit with everybody that was cool with him. Especially if they start doing more numbers than him. Like Tom MacDonald and Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll has done nothing but try to help Ryan. And then when Jelly Roll makes it big all of a sudden Church has a problem with him.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
lol
@NobodySVK
@NobodySVK 28 күн бұрын
Ey yo... He needs a help.... You need to be honest cliff...
@lisadavenport2390
@lisadavenport2390 28 күн бұрын
Yes I’ve noticed some of my subscriptions have been deleted and had to resubscribe but not to you friend. Love from Lisa the lyme and autoimmune warrior - hope you are doing well 💚💚💚
@littleviking27
@littleviking27 27 күн бұрын
Being a church fan, this shit is tough to watch.
@TraciKReacts
@TraciKReacts 25 күн бұрын
BX Beastboy is Church's "d" rider 😂😂😂 not missing much😏...happy Mesus came with receipts! This is just sad tho, I've loved church for years and he's lost it smh...
@hisbean
@hisbean 27 күн бұрын
Everyone else has either ignored Ryan, or tried to handle it quietly. Ryan won't talk to them, in private. He keeps bringing the drama to the internet. He did a video (after the Adam and Mesus videos), called "Fleas". It's super unhinged, and the vast majority of the comments are people telling him to seek help. He's not well. He is super talented, but he's destroying himself, and many people are finally seeing it. We WANT him to get help. Especially since he has a child on the way.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
He keeps their attempts to deal with him in the public eye so they can't finesse or manipulate or exploit or coerce him again behind closed doors, away from cameras. dummie
@hisbean
@hisbean 26 күн бұрын
@@JackSutterEtc Bullshit. No one would have known about any of this, if Ryan did start putting crap on the internet. Adam still doesn't know what actually happened between them.
@crystallynn5258
@crystallynn5258 23 күн бұрын
​@@JackSutterEtc this is none of anyone's business, especially unhinged fans of his, like you. Ryan looking like a bxtch for real.
@KoyotePenny_420.
@KoyotePenny_420. 14 күн бұрын
Ok ty.
@kameronmyles2013
@kameronmyles2013 27 күн бұрын
Mesus is fuckin lit
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
used to be
@MommaS_CammieCreeker810
@MommaS_CammieCreeker810 25 күн бұрын
💯🔥❤️🙏
@chicity7585
@chicity7585 28 күн бұрын
We out here.
@TananJess
@TananJess 22 күн бұрын
I get everybody's dropping disses and I haven't been checking none of em out, but I'm doing like what cliff said is just checking out the artist to see what all they can do, it's nothing more than seeing if they can do one thing or if they're versatile not being bias towards any one artist or the other.
@JackSutterEtc
@JackSutterEtc 27 күн бұрын
when mesus says "like men" he means "see it my way or we throwin blows", as some reactors have discovered adam is a fan of in recent months (threats, ominous invites to locations to "hash it out", crazy shit)
@marcatkinson4149
@marcatkinson4149 28 күн бұрын
Ryan seems to have become paranoid and kind of weird over the last couple of years. I've always enjoyed his YT channel and all his music, and I don't DISLIKE him now, but I no longer really follow him either. He DOES seem to be the one that's ALWAYS in the middle of drama with SOMEBODY.
@PuffyPandaOG
@PuffyPandaOG 27 күн бұрын
I need a cold beer and some chips for this one
@nurselorie2271
@nurselorie2271 28 күн бұрын
He did cliff
@MakingLemonadeFromLemons
@MakingLemonadeFromLemons 25 күн бұрын
"You're too good of a rapper to be associated with that...." sure sounds like he knows him. Of course he also said earlier that Mesus sounded like he had a mouth full of bubbles. So in the beginning he sucked but at the end he's good?
@eshnic
@eshnic 26 күн бұрын
@Cliff Beats who did you ghostwrite for? I would love to hear it.
@Black_Death_BD.StreetChamp.
@Black_Death_BD.StreetChamp. 28 күн бұрын
im subbed
@NobodySVK
@NobodySVK 28 күн бұрын
I feel like there is no miss communication. There is mental health and drug problems on Ryan's side. But ppl don't tell him truth that he needs to fcking help.
@shanewoods1980
@shanewoods1980 24 күн бұрын
I’m an army combat veteran with 7 deployments and 43 years old. Apparently I haven’t seen as much as “Ryan upchurch” damn Ryan teach me what I’ve missed
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