Unbiased Hot Take: How good is the Traxxas 4TEC Drift??? Let's Discuss

[@95teggib20]

Good to see someone reviewing this traxxas, thats an actual drifter and is not sponsored by traxxas. It is a good and honest review.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for the kind words.

[@Hannsom7]

when it comes to drifting i dont think theres a better channel out there, i really appreciate your passion and thank you for sharing your thoughts! Very Wise man! wish you was my neighbor lol

[@RoadsideRC]

I appreciate those kind words! Thank you!

[@gtheodor82]

100% this. By far the best content creator and damn I would also love to have him as a neighbour 😉

[@mitsuman5555]

Thanks for this. It's been frustrating watching guys with little to no drift experience review this car out of context.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@240brah]

It’s sad to see traxxas always just make some money grab new model out of something they already make instead of putting in the effort to make something good! Appreciate your realistic opinion /review! These are the videos I wish hit a bigger audience!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for that! I really appreciate the kind words.

[@CrustyRC]

I feel that as it’s going to bring more to the drift scene, it will probably turn them away shortly after, seeing that the chassis isn’t capable of doing what they want. And will the aftermarket want to do anything with lawsuits looming in the background. I think you are spot on as for the intended use, driveways, skateparks and such. Time will tell. Keep it up Troy.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! I really do genuinely hope the aftermarket helps this car. Would be great to bolt on 2-3 parts to fix some of the issues.

[@turboencabulator2410]

Your knowledge and honesty set you apart. I'm often put off by channels that "love" everything they review. You are real AF.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for that. I really appreciate it.

[@boduke9428]

They won't say anything negative because Traxxas won't send them more free vehicles pre release. I automatically disregard any sponsored review info. That handbrake on a rwd car is the most Traxxas thing about this car. I am ashamed that I used to be a certified, kool-aid drinking, Traxxas fanboy. If not for blind brand loyalty and name recognition they'd be forced to build great cars again or go away for good. I hate what they've become.

[@mattbrc]

I 100% completely agree with what you're saying. Traxxas really dropped the ball on this. Could have been so good. I wonder, with team associated and traxxas now jumping on board, will we see a drift chassis released from horizon hobby before the year is out??

[@RoadsideRC]

I fully believe Losi could release a drift chassis. No doubt. These things do take time though. So unless they have already been at it for 1yr +, it will be awhile before we see it from them.

[@jiggs19in]

Your review is to the point and i appreciate what you spoke about the bad and the curious part❤

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@scalebuildersguild]

Great video! I hear a lot of seasoned enthusiasts downplaying the importance of this car and what it could do for their local track's popularity. Get people in the door, let them start here and upgrade from there. Thanks for your hot take!

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Cars are not the problem with local tracks. Local tracks are the problem. The race scene is about as inviting to newbies as as a porta potty on a hot day.

[@scalebuildersguild]

@@BeardRubEnjoyer Drift scene and Race scene are two entirely separate entities. I've had AMAZING experiences with helpful, friendly, inclusive folks at the drift track.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you. Watched your video last night. I appreciate the moderated tone you took - and you showed it driving exactly where it would be fun, at the park. See you around!

[@scalebuildersguild]

@@RoadsideRC I plan on taking it to my local track as soon as time allows. I'm really excited to put it into the hands of a few seasoned veterans of drift and get their take. It's without a doubt, a beginner car, but the potential for growth to the hobby is fantastic.

[@RoadsideRC]

@scalebuildersguild I heard that in your video - great idea. That was one of my more popular videos when I got the Redcat RDS. Nobody believes you and I...but they will believe all of those other folks!

[@pat88c]

Wise words at the end .... it maybe not best car on paper but if brings people into rc drift groups or rc drift tracks Then it win for the community

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Glad you agree!

[@Rcdude2007]

Definitely an interesting vehicle from traxxas. The stearing angle i was pretty upset about when i first saw it. I think i will stick to saving up for the Redcat RDS

[@RoadsideRC]

That is the smarter choice - I agree.

[@FijianCarGuy]

I’ll be honest, bro, very fair and balanced. You made some great points. I think your assessment is fair

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you - I appreciate that.

[@PhilMillerJustice]

Thanks for vocalizing this! I agree. Huge opportunity, missed the mark by a mile.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@AV-RC]

Interesting! Thanks for the insights. Hope to see your view on the Associated drift car coming soon!

[@RoadsideRC]

Me too! Just ordered parts to complete that kit - just need to get the kit now!

[@TheRCBuildersPost]

Yeah, but you also gotta mention that the $399 redcat and mst are brushless RTR, not brushed. Also, the Team Associated kit is a much better drift oriented car and it's only $299 for the kit. Or even the redcat drift kit for $199. I get it though, RTR for people joining the hobby. I just feel like Traxxas half assed it lol

[@RoadsideRC]

I do certainly feel that Traxxas *could have done more/better. No doubt. BUT - I honestly don't begrudge them for the brushed setup too much. The Yokomo RTR is also brushed...and I drove that for over a year with the brushed setup. It did quite well actually. A brushed setup will frequently have better throttle control than a non-sensored brushless....so it does well. The 21T and brushed does make me think they are also attempting to limit total wheelspeed to let the TSM Drift mode do it's thing. I bet a VERY common mistake that will happen with new users is they will attempt to put a 3S/4S+ system in here...and it will be undriveable.

[@spaceyrat]

Thanks! I'm new to drifting so wasn't really sure what to make of it... but went with what was recommended by people at the local shop and had generally good feedback online: the rookie drift 2.0 kit. I am with you on being glad for additional nice body options.

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! The RD should do great for you!

[@Joercgarage]

I kinda agree with you my friends who are serious into drifting have wrote it off and I can’t say they are wrong but I also told them this will bring more people to the track who are curious about drifting and that will be a good thing

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! We will see what happens!

[@chrislarue07]

Honestly they should have based it off of a hybrid bandit chassis that would have at least been better for weight distribution. Traxxas has always made the least tweaks to their vehicles whenever the would release a "new car" but I also know that saves money in the long run and parts interchangeability is huge between vehicles which is nice if you have several similar vehicles. I know everyone crapped on traxxas for a going into the crawler scene at first but after the first one came out it was a nice crawler. They make great bashers for a lot of people. They do get a lot of people into the rc hobby and we all should appreciate that fact. Curious how it will handle and I'm looking forward to you getting one and testing out.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! The Bandit idea is intriguing. I could see that being an interesting platform to have built the drift car from. I am looking forward to meeting all of the folks new to drift who pick one of these up!

[@chrislarue07]

@RoadsideRC I might buy one for giggles it'd be a good parking lot basher to let others try before diving all the way into drifting as well. Like meeting random people on the trails while crawling.

[@Serial_Enthusiast]

Excellent video! To your point about the aftermarket fixing the issues with this new platform: I'm concerned that Traxxas history of litigation may hinder the aftermarket support for this platform. I know the community will embrace all newcomers with open arms and help them to get sideways, even if we are cursing Traxxas while we are doing it 😂

[@RoadsideRC]

Solid point! I will be curious if less folks will be willing to jump in with product support. Time will tell.

[@mikescherrer4923]

Nobody should support Traxxas in any way at this point. The fact they are still in business shows how ill-informed the average RC hobbyist is.

[@slimsqde7397]

the best review ive seen, exactly what i want to hear, someone who really drifts reviewing the car, id love to see you drive one and do a driving review!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! That is the plan. I have one on hold at my LHS!

[@slimsqde7397]

@RoadsideRC sick man, ill be watching out for that video

[@kenthirakoune3907]

You know me man, I’m all about getting the underdog chassis and tweaking it to make it hang in with the big dogs. Next time we are a track I’ll show you what I improved on my flashy pink MR clone. I remembered what you said and spent a lot of time on alignment and weight transfer. Anyways I agree with you about bringing new people to the sport and hope that we can get more involved. We need it down here in Alabama.

[@RoadsideRC]

Looking forward to seeing you again!

[@modelcarjedi]

I love the positive vibes you have toward new drifters this car is going to ring to the hobby.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! We will see how it does!

[@shadowbird]

It’s nothing serious it’s just something fun for the kids to drive around the parking lot .it’s not competition it’s not rocket science it’s just fun

[@RoadsideRC]

Watching the SBG video on it - I 100% agree with you. Was it serious for him? Nope. But did he laugh and have a good time? It sure seemed like it!

[@MarcoLemmetti]

To people who want to begin RC drifting, This in my opinion would be an excellent choice. I know there are other beginner platforms out there, but to have Traxxas dip their toes in the drifting community, I would have nothing against that.

[@RoadsideRC]

We will see how it does!

[@Storyracing387]

I agree with you, the aftermarket is going to have a field day with this one. The electronics position is all wrong, but like you said, Traxxas is aiming this at the parking lot folks. I can't wait to see what mods companies and consumers come up with, and I hope every single one of them post it on YT. KPOPRC where are youuuuuuu????? That guy will mod this for sure!

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - this car may fit well if that is the target audience. Will be interesting to see!

[@KazanskyAlex]

So far I even more happier with my RDS ready to run I'm still run everything stock and so far I'm sure this is the best ready to run product Espescially when it was on the sale for $299 last month 😊

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree! I think many folks still underestimate that chassis!

[@westonjordan6374]

Hear me out: Part of the fun is fixing the factory mistakes with aftermarket parts. Maybe not for some, but I enjoy working on them and getting it right for me.

[@RoadsideRC]

That makes sense - but typically want a good baseline to start from.

[@westonjordan6374]

@@RoadsideRC yeah I bought this and it’s a good baseline from the start. I’d expect you to own one if you’re reviewing. Otherwise you’re just sharing your thoughts on specs. 🫡

[@FracturedNinja]

I don’t know much about RC Drift cars, but I think it’s pretty clear that the decisions here were based on business strategy… They took off the shelf parts made some minor tweaks to software etc. Produced a low cost drift car. If it sells in masses they will release a new version… Those that struggled with this version will buy the new one those that didn’t take it seriously will buy the new one either way it’s a win for Traxxas. If it does not sell, no loss for Traxxas they can discontinue and use the parts on other vehicles. They are dipping their toes into the space to see what happens…

[@RoadsideRC]

That sounds logical to me! I am guessing there was still some substantial cost involved here. Yes - the chassis is a shortcut. But the new bulkheads and the TSM re-mapping must have been some work. Will be curious to try one and see how it goes.

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

The difference with the hand brake function to the brake is the hand brake is a instant break where when using the trigger its applied load to slow it down. basically one locks up the motor vrs slow it down.

[@RoadsideRC]

I'm curious where you get this info - can you share? Have you driven RWD RC drift cars before?

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

@@RoadsideRC I have many years dealing with electronics and such. I also have their drag truck. Which works Similarly. The truck allows full throttle while holing then boom launch. The car works like that instant cut of throttle allowing the motor to lock giving you the e brake feel. When using the trigger it’s just like pushing a break peddle. It will slow the motor VRs lock it up. Thus breaking aka slowing you down. Another thing to note. 3 modes. 1 new divers. All the assist 2 learned drivers. Steering assist (means it will turn for you based on your angle power etc 3 only gyro. Means it won’t try to turn just keeps the wheels locked sideways. 2 and 3 are similar but 3 is no assist just a gyro. 2 will steering for you.

[@RoadsideRC]

@@DadsRCGaragePNW Glad you know so much about this!

[@tomo_tomodachi]

I agree with water proofing as pointless, though I did run my D5 is the rain just to get good photos because it looks cool with water rooster tailing. Had to clear wrap to be able to safely run it. Informative video. Looking forward to your testing of this.

[@RoadsideRC]

Me too! Excited to try it and see how good it really is! Maybe after this - everyone will waterproof their drift cars and we will be outside in the rain for a bigger challenge! :)

[@catman25]

Tt02 $109 + $ 80 rwd conversion > traxxas price of this is what got me nuts

[@RoadsideRC]

I'm honestly not a big fan of the Tamiya conversions either...

[@catman25]

@@RoadsideRC started with tt02 used the yeah racing rwd conversion with my custom, up high and rear motor mount and it holds it own tbh . but this redcat throws them real good ( this is my 2 store demo drift models) 👍 . A/e looks promising 👌 traxxas looks gimmicky . Losi best impress !! 👏 but you right traxxas will sell !!

[@brvt1000]

My opinion, I am NOT a drifter and had not tried it. It looks like fun but it's not really my thing. Nor am I a Traxxas fan boy. I am just getting back into RC after many years away. The Traxxas rep was at my LHS two weeks before the release of this car but he had one with him that he was letting the owner drive, he let me and a few other customers give it a rip. This thing looks really good, like something you could drive in real life. Not being a drifter, I have to say this thing was super fun! Lots of spins the first few minutes, then a few slides, then linked a few things together and it started to make sense. I was VERY close to pre ordering one, the price seemed fair, but I know nothing about the local drift scene. So I asked on the local Facebook group, nothing, not a reply. And that sealed the deal, no drift car for me. People like me are whom this car is targeted at. Sure, it's not a 360 degree steering carbon and anodized billet weapon for $200 and it's not supposed to be. I really feel like people need to temper their expectations anymore, especially in this hobby. The comments on this video are what I feel might be part of what's raising the bar of entry for RC drifting. I'm going to take the Traxxas Modified that I bought instead and go dirt oval racing, those guys are more than welcoming.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting to hear your thoughts! Yes - online, we typically do see more aggressive wording - it is the internet after all. But - in person, I find the drift community to be the most laid-back and helpful of any of the RC groups. Is there a track near you? Might be worth a visit to see what it is like.

[@brvt1000]

@@RoadsideRC the closest track is 45 min from here. Those are the guys on that Facebook group. It just seems like a majority of the existing community is missing the point of this car.

[@stephenpheonix6549]

This car is aimed at the RTR car park drift bashers like most Traxxas vehicles. Never aimed at performance or racing. I”m waiting for the Team Associated DC10! It looks the biz and comes with all upgrades included. Hope you do a review in this one too!

[@RoadsideRC]

I have already bought all of the components I plan to put in the DC10 - now just need to find one in stock!

[@Doritune.rcdrift]

I’m not keen on this and I run a TT02 with the MRC conversion and love it! I’m guessing the spool option has been implemented into the car to try and promote forward bite but it’s going to make it slow and awkward on transitions…. I too would have liked to of seen at least a geared diff with this chassis to be honest. The biggest killer for me is the way Traxxas deal with smaller companies making conversions for their products… they then enter the drift market that is full of awesome little companies making conversions…. Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen…

[@RoadsideRC]

Good point on the interaction with the smaller companies. Really too bad, because if the companies could fix the mistakes here, it would be a big help!

[@makestuffbetter19]

Hey Troy! Thanks for doing this review. It’s really helpful!

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the kind words.

[@makestuffbetter19]

@@RoadsideRC I think traxxas has a big part to play, getting new people into the hobby. Anything they make, you can find built better, but they also don’t make garbage in the whole scheme of things. There are so many Chinese products out there now it makes traxxas look really good.

[@InsaneWang]

You nailed it honestly. Did Traxxas drop the ball here? YES Will it bring in lots of new people? YES Be nice to the new people and show them why RC Drift is awesome. Take the opportunity to check out something different and try to help them along. Also, if you think the chassis layout is “wrong” look at GRK 👏🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the feedback! Hopefully we can help the new folks. Yes - I know about the GRK...yes, I still think the chassis layout is wrong from a basic physics standpoint.

[@jerryvolpini7987]

Excellent review, honest and unbiased but most importantly, looked at from a drifter's point of view. Another Traxxas model with an old design (despite the changes to the 4tec platform) meant to exploit the popularity of a growing market. Really, not much good to say but I thought you did a great job of trying to see it from Traxxas' side but more importantly, from the proposed customer's viewpoint. 👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for those kind words! I really appreciate it!

[@allyoucando8486]

I will agree with you. For me, the Traxxas 4TEC drift will much suitable for drag racing, but the location of the motor and esc will damage the performance. I think this 4TEC have hope, until you get one and see how capable is in your hand I prefer to keep my money. I have the Redcat RDS I'm using for drag playing around. It is really fun

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! I do plan to get one. Will publish my thoughts on it!

[@jrc-fabs1634]

Great video! I really want to get into drifting

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Let me know if you have questions along the way.

[@frankiep2314]

I Bye and and they have extra tires with this rc thanks for update and stay safe

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Have a good day!

[@TrokaRC]

12:43 Brushless, locked diff & 90° steering angle is missing in this release.

[@RoadsideRC]

Brushless - Traxxas doesn't have a sensored setup. So the throttle control is better with brushed than brushless. That is my guess. The diff is locked actually - which I see as a bad thing. Yes - no way of getting around the lack of steering.

[@justinv584]

Thanks for warning us! Traxxas do better 🙃

[@RoadsideRC]

I really think they could have!

[@kylekallies3381]

I was looking forward to your review of this because I know you like drifting and you seem to know a bunch about this and I feel like they just gave this pre release cars to the people who would hurry up do a review video of it and they would say good things about it

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I appreciate it.

[@wolfenher6937]

If you want the real experience of 2wd rc drifting to learn how to start drifting the basics, best to get yourself an MST RMX 2.5 RTR, Yokomo YD2 RTR or a Redcat drift car considering they are good for getting into drifting a lot as a beginner. If you decide to built one from as a kit for better experience and learn how everything works for a 2wd rc drift car, get yourself a Yokomo YD2 or RD 1.0 or 2.0, 3Racing Sakura D5, Reve D RDX, etc. Most 2wd rc drift kits prices are reasonable but some are expensive because of additional parts that come handy with the kit will help a lot compare to getting an RTR version, but the real answer to all of this is mainly your choice on what you think it’s best for you.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks - I am pretty familiar with drift cars.

[@Stoabie14]

The motor/electronics layout isn't necessarily a bad thing. The GRK follows the same layout (alongside the RWD modified TT01/02) - and my GRK (among many others) drives extremely well. The other things about it though are definitely not going to cut it.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - I did mean to actually say that in the video...and forgot. Is the electronics layout "bad"....??? Maybe that is too extreme. Is it "ideal"? For sure not. Yes - there are cars like the GRK that use that design. But those also typically are not the ones with the highest performance either. There is some basic physics involved with the motor orientation that makes it more logical for the motor to be turned 90*.

[@freemansfocus]

Great thoughts on the new TRAXXAS drifter. I'm a total newbie (don't even have a proper drift car yet) and I was curious as to why TRAXXAS did some of those things you mentioned.

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Glad you thought it was helpful! Let me know if you ever have questions about getting into drifting.

[@modelaircraft6576]

You make great reviews I just gotta sub

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@boduke9428]

This is a great looking car that cost a lot for cheap brushed electronics. They only mostly took a dump this time. It's a definite improvement from the tiny monster truck things.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes sir! This is a lot better of a drift car than tiny monster trucks! :)

[@boduke9428]

@@RoadsideRC it's all about perspective!

[@JDMCookies]

I don’t think the electronics are in a terrible location. If you look at the Shibata (R31 House in Japan) GRK chassis, they have the electronics in a Similar layout. I’d be interesting to run them side by side to see how they compare.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! I meant to actually say this in the video...and forgot. Clearly, there are good performing chassis that have the electronics in this location...but it is also clear that the orientation is NOT ideal. Basic physics lets you know that turning the motor 90* and moving things closer to the rear axle will help - and that is why the bulk of the chassis are designed that way.

[@JDMCookies]

@@RoadsideRC The GRK chassis arnt that well known outside of Japan i don’t think or much in USA(read somewhere they are slowly being introduced) but they also give you different options for battery layouts so you arnt locked into 1 battery position like their GRK WTP and GRK 4/5 layouts. The GRK chassis generally perform well or at least in Japan from what I have read with the other big hitters that are known from Japan. Perhaps depending on what Traxxas sees with this they will release a carbon option as a hop up like most of their stuff.

[@RoadsideRC]

@JDMCookies I've driven a couple GRK. There are some in my area. They are good chassis for sure - but there is no way around the layout being non-ideal.

[@justinyoung109]

Yay for helping newbies. same with the Associated car. Nay for saying these things will be disposable or forgotten. There's plenty of engineering room with these. Especially in the front end, which still has some room for tuning. That body alone will justify the investment on one. Hopefully you can get one in your hands to drive for yourself soon.

[@RoadsideRC]

You are right! If the aftermarket swoops in and saves the chassis - then it will be great. Otherwise, the performance ceiling will be hit VERY fast and folks will start looking elsewhere.

[@kylekallies3381]

It will also be interesting to see what the resale value will be in a few years time with these cars as well

[@RoadsideRC]

You think it might be different than other RCs?

[@cd-pu5uv]

Unsellable. Lol.

[@kylekallies3381]

@@RoadsideRC no not really unless they don’t end up selling well but I picked up a slash for $125 a few days ago and when I picked up a 4-tech for racing it only costed me $200 so in the end these just might be a really cheap way to get a rear wheel drive system and once you drive it like you said if you like the RC drift seen then you upgrade to a better rc car platform

[@mikescherrer4923]

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[@xxrfmxx]

love traxxas can't wait to get one and yes i like what you said about it may take tons or work to drift like you others i am no pro

[@RoadsideRC]

We will see how this car is together! If you have questions along the way, let me know.

[@NathanStorer-RC]

I'm assuming they'll have a gear diff, or maybe even a ball diff, as an aftermarket hop up. They could, theoretically, have hop ups to allow more steering angle also. If there's one thing I know about Traxxas, they love to sell you the bare bones car and offer hop ups (though, they do have Ultimate versions of some of their cars). Regarding their battery tray, they don't have shorty LiPos, and they're not going to make a vehicle that doesn't support any battery they have. All in all, I don't expect much out of this, but I am happy to see another big player enter the game. I'm sure they will end up making a 4tec drift 2.0 eventually if enough people hop on board, but it'll probably take 2 or 3 revisions to get it where it's track ready. It does seem like a good parking lot basher just to have a bit of fun, rather than using a chassis you dumped $1k into.

[@RoadsideRC]

I think the gear diff already exists! It is in the standard 4TEC 2.0 chassis! That is why I was surprised they spent the effort to design a spool! Yes - I think the target audience of "street drifter" will have a blast.

[@Spirit_of_Celestine]

Excellent share.... Have a wonderful day 🌹❤

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! You too!

[@Frankredline]

You are very correct on all the topics roadside rc.

[@RoadsideRC]

Oh, I am clearly wrong on something. :) Thanks for the kind words!

[@FPSRCDRIFT]

I completely agree with your take on this and it’s gotta be aimed for kids and people who are dipping there toes in this side of the hobby Also I wondered if the high turn motor ( low wheel speed ) was to accommodate the shallow steering angle 🤔

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree 100% - that low wheel speed must help A LOT to keep the car from spinning out. People always think "full throttle" and you can hear in some of the running videos just how much that motor is screaming to drift. Good point!

[@jeremyleblanc2923]

so with the 60 degree steering angle, i think it adds an element of skill. no assist to help you

[@RoadsideRC]

Hmm. That's a unique argument I haven't heard before. How long have you been drifting?

[@Cityboy4x4]

keep in mind what they did with the TRX4 line. There is a difference between the DEFENDER and the BRONCO. I think the 2nd gen will be what the people want. I dont comp. I have a EPX but im that guy at the park with his kids or random parking lot. I have a few crawlers. I started with nitros then went electric back in '15. This is just the start of traxxas in the drift scene. I believe iit will get better most likely aftermarket. Chassis and body.

[@RoadsideRC]

I hope you are right! Maybe Traxxas will continue to evolve it!

[@Cityboy4x4]

@RoadsideRC i believe they will. They just stepped into the drift scene. Ill be surprised if they dont.

[@emcg7654]

Im sure trx will put out accessories to fix the flaws engineered into the car like a angle kit or a transverse gear box/motor setup

[@RoadsideRC]

I hope they do!

[@emcg7654]

@@RoadsideRC would be cool, looking forward to seeing a actual drifter slide it around and see what tweaks you come up with for it.

[@Virgin4lyfe420]

So many vets in every category with all the knowledge they’ve acquired through the years got to be the most annoying people towards rookies just getting in. Traxxas makes it so easy to get into the hobby makes great products for people who want to buy a car and play and upgrade as needed yeah I can see how they dropped the ball a bit on this one due to your amazing informative video but the average buyer isn’t going to care when they’re in a parking lot with their friends or kids the constant traxxas hate is so annoying

[@RoadsideRC]

I do bet you are right! We will see these randomly at parking lots. It will be a dynamic like an Arrma basher vs a Tekno race buggy.

[@calvinwolf7107]

Sounds like making the effort to convert my 4wd was more than worth it still, I'll admit I will be looking at using the arms and front bulkhead for my conversion, As for the motor being transverse it dosnt really effect it much if they gave better mounting points for the electronics it would allow for tuning out any negative effects from it there's multiple pro chassis that run a transverse motor and they run beautifully I myself had to custom make a rear high CG battery mount and move the ESC into the battery tray to balance it but that's all I've needed to change so far for electrics placement, from all the reviews and people's comments I can't help but feel they missed the mark/target in a few areas of what a drift chassis should be, I am however excited to see more companies step foot into the drift world like Traxxas and team associated even if I don't run the chassis I know others who would so overall it's cool to see 🤘 Great video as always 💜🤘

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! Good luck with your build.

[@calvinwolf7107]

​@@RoadsideRCluckily it's already built and drifting but there's always upgrades that can be made 😉, Do you by chance know if the front top bulk head and the front arms are interchangeable to the original chassis (granted after removing the driveshaft and diff first) I'm curious if people who own a 4tec already might be able to just buy a few parts and swap it to RWD ?

[@popcorn8199]

Man, I was going to buy this but I don't think I will now. Any suggestions for a better kit to build for a starter?? Redcat maybe??

[@RoadsideRC]

Hi there! Yes - I do not think this is the ideal drift car for most folks. Here is a breakdown of the main 3 RTR drift cars available. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PQpotqYrqBo6c

[@BeardRubEnjoyer]

Super informative, thanks for this.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ErikBalintMedia]

i can’t wait to see your video when the d6 comes out

[@RoadsideRC]

Me too! I keep seeing the teasers about it. Very curious to see how it will do.

[@ddavidson0404]

Same goes with the trx4 stop making the same chassis into different trucks but still the same... completely redo the trx4 ... like redcats newest trk there new crawler rtr out of the box... Great video as always love your videos...

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@catman25]

Team losing is next Troy !! Get ready !!

[@RoadsideRC]

I hope so!

[@ShaneMikula]

Also have to remember who their target audience is for a lot of the downsides. I don't remember if it was a comment on one of your videos, but non-rc drift specific people thought we were dumb for putting an open gear diff in the RDS even though that's the correct option for it. Same goes for the handbrake idea, while you really shouldn't be using it to initiate, "normal" people expect it. Overall, more options is never a bad thing for the hobby, especially one as niche as Drift.

[@RoadsideRC]

Solid points! I didn't think of it that way. Those are two VERY common misconceptions as folks get started - as you know. :)

[@crawlersncustoms]

A proper review from someone who actually knows drifting and drift cars. Hopefully beginners find your channel before they watch one of the sponsored reviews.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

[@theAessaya]

Regading spools -- it is _very_ common for entry-level drift chassis to have a spool. ReveD RDX, one of the best-regarded entry-level chassis comes with a spool. MST RMX RTR has a spool, and in general there is absolutely nothing wrong with a spool in RC drift. Especially for novices who won't have the knowledge and driving experience for tuning gear differential. Furthermore, traxxas obviously aims this at more bashy side of RC drift -- parking lots, own garages, places that are not a track. And spool works well for those cases. And finally, spool is _cheaper_ -- which matters for a kit aimed at the entry-level tier. But otherwise thanks for a more level-headed review of this model.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the feedback. Yes - I 100% understand the cost implication...except in this situation, Traxxas had to spend the time and money to develop a spool....when they already had a gear diff from the regular 4TEC sitting there. I also am 100% a believer that a gear diff is easier to drive than a spool. A locked diff tends to make a car more twitchy...which would be bad for a novice. Maybe I am wrong - but that is how I see it! Thanks for the feedback.

[@theAessaya]

@@RoadsideRC that is fair. I'd say it is most likely a personal preference, and can be compensated by other tuning options. Personally, I prefer my diff close to locked -- runnign very tight ball dif, 1m cSt oil in gear diffs, and soft 4-gear C-LSD configurations in my cars. I find that spool (or very limited slip diff) behaves more consistently, as both wheels will have or lose traction at the same time, so it actually may be easier for novices to control.

[@007teal]

Thank you for the video and totally on point with my views on it. I've seen people post on other reviewers videos wanting one to get into drifting. My initial comment is like your point, for the same price you can get a 100 percent better car but of course aside from redcat theres nobody of the 4 rtr drifters thats more well known in the general rc community than traxxas. Every hobbyshop carries traxxas so more people will get into the scene. like my comment on facebook I think if they wanted to use an existing chassis the rustler or bandit woulda been a better choice.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! I think this could really help folks get into the hobby....but it may also open a whole new sub-segment of the RC drift niche...the parking lot drifter. It may be perfect for those folks.

[@landrywilliams9687]

I have one ordered to cookeville hobbies. Mainly bc my fiancé just bought a white 2024 mustang so I wanted the mini version 😅😅 I do have a rmx 2.5 already tho

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! I have mine on order from them as well!

[@landrywilliams9687]

@@RoadsideRC I was wondering if the other one they had ordered was for you or for the store.

[@RoadsideRC]

@landrywilliams9687 Sounds like he had multiple on order when I was there. Not sure.

[@nallekanki]

What do you think is the best drift car(/chassis)?

[@RoadsideRC]

That is a loaded question! I honestly don't have a single favorite. Depends on where and how someone will use it.

[@nallekanki]

@@RoadsideRC for drifting inside and outside, not competing. Something that has enough potential, so one doesn't need another drift car. Not necessarily the best of everything, but no weak areas/parts.

[@aiorimotov.253]

Can you please try to review the team associated DC10 chassis?

[@RoadsideRC]

It just arrived at my door!

[@aiorimotov.253]

@@RoadsideRC wow. Can't wait to see it drift. I'll wait for it.

[@ferozferoz3965]

I totally agree. i have a sprint 2 flux bmw racer aka rear wheel drifter(the only rear wheel drifter that i have) and a vatterra v100 camaro four wheel drifter and a racer this one is now shelf Queen😬😂.One day i gone buy a real drifter a rear and a four wheel. And you as my guide. Thanks🤓😌😉👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Happy to help when you decide to get serious about RWD!

[@DJ.1001]

Honestly the chassis layout and diff are fine. There are plenty of drift chassis thay drive great with the ssme traditional touring car layout, ie. GRK and TT02 MRC. The spool diff is totally functional as well. Spools make a car more predictable thus easier to drive, for the target market of this car its just fine. My only real issue is the front end. Its probably going to need at least different arms and steering knuckles, this chassis needs at least 25% more lock to even have a chance of running with other chassis. I wont buy kne but i am definitely curious, i look forward to driving one.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - I did mean to actually say this in the video, but didn't, so thanks for pointing it out. The layout and the spool both work. That is true. Are they ideal? No - clearly not. Yes, there are chassis out there that make the layout work, but I also don't see those at the top of any comp scoreboards either. "Work" vs "Ideal" are clearly two different things. Thanks!

[@Nibbler562]

You gotta review the dc10

[@RoadsideRC]

It is already in the mail!

[@tl924]

This is so great for the hobby! Turn key no nonsense durable fun for teens and kids.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes - I expect many folks will end up having a blast with it.

[@mikescherrer4923]

But you can buy an infinitely superior MST RTR for less money so why would anyone except a Trashsuxx fanboy or someone who didn't do any market research want this? So they can watch Trashaxx sue anyone who tries to fix the glaring flaws it has? Fun!

[@mikescherrer4923]

@@tl924 😂 Dude, did you watch the video? You can get a Yokomo RD1.0 Brushed RTR for the same price! This thing is literal garbage, if you're gonna buy it for a kid I hope you're trying to discourage them from taking up RC as a hobby... Because when it costs $1000 dollars to make this even close to a stock Redcat RDS and another $1000 in broken pieces to get there, they aren't gonna be into it. Take it from someone with a $1200 slash that can't keep up with a stock $400 Tenacity TT around a track: Traxxas is for people with a passing interest and more money than sense, not actual hobbyists.

[@patricklavoie8719]

Well said Troy 👍🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks Patrick!

[@_alienx_p]

I can see what traxxas did with this one. Going after entry market. Cost them nothing or less than original 4tech so they can keep price down. Not trying to compete with the higher market. After market can help with chassis layout and steering angle. I think the aftermarket can figure out a way to shift the weight rearward pretty easy by putting the receiver and esc in the rear of the battery tray and making a platform above the electronics for the battery

[@RoadsideRC]

Solid ideas! With those changes, this may really do well.

[@craiglamb9029]

I think this is a very cool vehicle conceptually. Its training wheels and a gateway drug to drifting and will get people started and having fun. The driver skill comes later. The advanced user tuning understanding comes later. you can get in get your feet wet, upgrade the motor/esc to sensored, servo may some steering and susp tweaks, then now youve got the itch! and youll go for a yokomo, redcat, or the new associated. youll understand all the hangups by that point. Traxxas will contenue to develop this as demand dictates. Parts support will be great, durability will be solid. Im not into rc drifting yet...but the traxxas is making me curious...No i wont be buying the traxxas.lol

[@RoadsideRC]

That may be exactly what happens with this car - you are probably right!

[@Fortes_RC_Adv]

Very cool drift👌😏💯

[@RoadsideRC]

I didn't do any drifting in this video...at all.

[@2wheels4wheels]

just get the big picture. This is an easy way for someone to start drifting and get more people into this kind of RC.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! Hopefully it brings many new people in!

[@dmedford5]

you can get a Sakura D5 for a hell of alot less than this thing will cost...I do like the body and wheels tho.

[@RoadsideRC]

The D5 chassis is GREAT - I really like it. Yes - the chassis alone is much cheaper, but I would certainly be over $329 by the time I got the Sakura to RTR status.

[@raidersperez1278]

I do use my mst rmx 2.5 outdoors 😂 rain or shine. I have no choice. I hate my local shop cause they’re a-wholes but I have plenty of fun in my yard

[@RoadsideRC]

For sure! No drift car *can't drift outside. Actually - I did a few drift videos a LONG time ago where I went around trying to find cool stuff to drift outside. It was fun!

[@Organized-_-Chaos]

Would the tsm you get with the tqi help make up for the steering angle short fall

[@RoadsideRC]

It shouldn't - but they are clearly doing some kind of trickery to get the car to go around a corner...at a shallower angle. I have tried to use TSM on a proper RWD drift car...and it was horrible. So clearly they tuned it to do something different with this car. That said, no amount of electronic trickery can get you around fundamental physics.

[@tundrasr5709]

Which would you pick out of the ones you mentioned in the video? I've done limited drifting with noon drift Rigs. Thanks

[@RoadsideRC]

Good question! I made a whole video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PQpotqYrqBo6c

[@tundrasr5709]

@@RoadsideRC thanks, I'll check it out.

[@mikescherrer4923]

@@tundrasr5709 My two cents: Can't go wrong with an MST RMX 2.5 RTR for $399.99 or a Redcat RDS for the same price. DEFINITELY worth the $50 premium over the lightly updated 20 year old plastic fantastic Traxxas. I have an MST and it's pretty sweet. Now if you wanna build a kit then it's really down to what you like.

[@bboyezflava]

Good info man.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad to help!

[@JohnDoe-ci4ne]

The reality is not everyone have a local drift track. When they do have a local drift track they tend to be elitists and snobs, eg. I have a Yokomo MR4TC shaft 4wd brush motor setup for drift for almost 2 decades ago now and brought it to their track and it can hang with them on the track and much faster and often I was told off that it's not about being fast yet everyone wanted to be faster around the track than the other guy with 100k rpm and make excuses about counter steer, fyi real world race drivers have different driving styles hence vehicle tuning to specific driver and track layout and conditions. I raced & drifted real cars even before most of these guys were born, raced rc since 1986 from 1/8 1/10 1/18 2wd 4wd buggy, truggy, tc (personally played tc & drift rc with Masami Hirosaka 2 decades ago). The point is, not defending traxxas, traxxas is about making money while catering to the majority, Team AE is the same, no race or track vehicles possible if they don't have sales from the regular rc enthusiasts.

[@RoadsideRC]

I'm sorry you had a bad experience at your track. Most tracks are exclusively RWD now. As they said, it is about parity, not about outright speed. I am watching the Formula 1 race right now. It would kind of be like an AWD Formula 1 car attempting to show up. Doesn't fit the Formula or rule set. Showing up with an AWD drift car and attempting to tandem (not race) is similar. I ha e found in general the drift folks in this hobby to be the most accommodating and helpful of any aspect of the rc hobby.

[@JohnDoe-ci4ne]

@@RoadsideRC I've got a few selection of rc tracks close by I played. Summer months outdoor 1/8 nitro & electric buggy & truggy (played with world champion Ty Tessmann here in Alberta Canada, these guys are the friendliest here everybody's treated like a family). Winter months 1/10 2wd & 4wd buggy & SCT (indoor dirt & carpet), 1/10 TC, USGT & Mini (so much friendlier than the elitist drift track & no one is bragging how expensive or look down on how inexpensive or old their gear so as long as you podium that toy car), after all I & my kids are in it to have fun & relax from the daily grind. Funny you say rwd, have you seen world champion Masami Hirosaka (played with him too when I lived in Japan) with 4wd MR4TC drift with his radio using his feet. Also there was no problem with drifting parity with just a 27T brush on a 4wd (btw in the infancy of rc drift 2 decades ago I won several trophies too in Asia before these guys learn about rc). Anyway good luck with your channel.

[@matthewheath45]

so what would you recommend for a starter rtr for a person breaking into the hobby?

[@RoadsideRC]

Here is a breakdown of the 3 best RTR options: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PQpotqYrqBo6c

[@jameswisecarver]

I'd go with yokomo first then redcat then new bright then traxxas

[@RoadsideRC]

The Yokomo and Redcat are certainly more solid long-term chassis with a higher performance ceiling.

[@boduke9428]

I'm sure there's something between New Bright and Traxxas. There's lots of cheap Chinese clones that'll be better and cheaper than this.

[@l8zyate]

price is low due to the throw together junk and lack of engineering in it. Great video btw

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@MrDevo5]

i was hoping you'd do this 😁

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Glad I did it then. Did I get it right, wrong? What did I miss?

[@jayspeedchannel]

Traxxas knew if they gave us the 4wd 4Tec diff then the 132 drag guys will make repurpose the drift for a 132ft drag car

[@jayspeedchannel]

But since it’s the same chassis it’s still doable

[@RoadsideRC]

There already is a 4WD 4Tec, and I think folks already use that for drag racing. Right?

[@kamikaze337]

I don't understand the thinking behind this by Traxxas . They are big enough of a company to make a real competitor but instead released this . I don't see this doing well except for loyal Traxxas customers . Not what I would expect from Traxxas .

[@RoadsideRC]

I really think this is targeted towards the "street drifter". I expect 90% of these will be in the street in front of someone's house, at the skatepark, etc. Heck - even the 3 KZbinrs who had these pre-release drove them at a park, street, and parking lot. Not a single one took it to a proper track. My guess - that is where Traxxas intends this to live.

[@kamikaze337]

@RoadsideRC your absolutely right . Just watched another video about it and I agree .

[@MarcoRCArena]

Nice one my friend!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you!

[@say1033]

So only 3:30 into this. But I can't stop crying from laughing. Your complaining about a mustang spinning out was priceless. That's a level of realism you can't get with other brands. 😂😂😂

[@RoadsideRC]

Ha! No 1:10 sized crowds will be safe!

[@figuresix]

This thing is horrible. Yes people are gonna buy it because it says Traxxas. No way im gonna buy one and have to put in another 500 bucks just to get it to run right. Id rather upgrade a TT-02

[@RoadsideRC]

At this point, I just hope the $500 needed is in legitimate upgrades that really helps it - not just help it color-coordinate with fancy aluminum bits...

[@reneortiz2033]

Wish they would of gave it to a reviewer that actually can drift

[@RoadsideRC]

I expect a LOT of folks will get this rather soon!

[@NoodlesNJ1]

I dont know anything about drifting, the only car I guess I have that I "Drift" with is my Arrma Infraction. From what I understand you can adjust the turn angel to 90 degrees, but I'm wondering why they didn't just go with the BL-2S, like I said, I don't know anything about drifting.

[@RoadsideRC]

They do limit the total steering angle to 60* - that is a physical limitation. I think they skipped the BL-2S to help the car with driveability. #1 mistake folks will make with this car is putting too much power in it...and it will just immediately spin out everywhere. Also - the brushed setup has better throttle control than a non-sensored brushless setup.

[@NoodlesNJ1]

@@RoadsideRC Good info, I learned something.

[@boduke9428]

I'd say drifting the Infraction counts. I'd hate knowing I was burning off $40 sets of rear tires every couple battery packs *not drifting it around, lol.

[@EZCheezyBeef]

I just want to play with the gyro.

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree 100%!!! Very curious what wizardry they have going on in there.