Unboxing a Chinese Autoclave

[@MedicalMeCan]

Thanks for your support. So glad that you received the 150L autoclave finally. So wonderful the unboxing video is! Looking forward to next cooperation with you ！

[@UNOCASTILLO]

how much does this autoclave cost?

[@vcv120]

How is the autoclave performing? Can you post an update video? You make great videos by the way. They are really helpful and entertaining at the same time. Keep up the good work 👍

[@CMZneu]

Now a days i think china is actually decent at manufacturing stuff, at least industrial stuff like motors, pumps, etc. they have really upped their game this last decade compared to before.

[@OakandSpore]

Yeah there are some good companies out there now. Products are pretty decent.

[@Charles-Darwin]

Greatest comeback in history really. They can get almost anything delivered in an hour or two (there in China)

[@hanhaitao8794]

The vent is not for overheat protection, it's designed to vent out air inside drum, so that you get more saturated steam instead of heated air. The vent is automatically controlled and it will stop venting once the internal temperature reached slightly higher than 100°C.

[@silverleapers]

We have similar. 6Kw single phase (220V here) and 150L. It needs 6 awg wire and 40 amp breaker or the wires get real hot when running long cycles (it's 28.5 amps !). be aware if you over load it to a maximum the bags won't "breathe" when exhausting and steam won't get in the bags well enough. Underload (we run 8 5 lbs spawn bags is all...but they are very sterile when done). Also, be aware that the exhaust solenoid switch is normally closed for the venting. Soo, if the power cuts off mid run, it shuts off the exhaust valve and then the whole pressure vessel cools and vacuums (can damage unit and sensors). If the power gets cut off after it is at temperature be sure to open the lid as soon as the temp hits like 98-100C. The manual sucks but you'll eventually figure out the exhaust cycle settings (took us 3 nerve wrecking days!). Someone needs to rewrite the settings manual and do a video on how to change the settings. Let me know if you get stuck. Also the welds suck (they rust due to cheap rods used with iron in them) and will fail earlier as a results. You'll see the rust on the welds quickly. It's rated for 7 years BUT that is only if you change the water after every cycle (a lot of extra work) and don;t run acid or base producing steam like mushroom bags in it. We've had ours two year and it won't last past 3 or 4 safely is my bet. The failure is going to be catastrophic is my bet if we keep it a full 7 years. lol

[@OakandSpore]

Thanks for all the advice! I will take it all in when I run it for first few times. I definitely don't want it pulling a vacuum.

[@silverleapers]

@@OakandSpore BTW, there is a 400L single phase 6Kw that can be special ordered from Satrise and others (SW Mushrooms has the chamber in his video but I don't think his is single phase), but it will take a long time to reach temp if loaded. It is the biggest single phase autoclave that I could find in the world (and is special order due to the low/weird power input).

[@silverleapers]

@@OakandSpore Oh, and the factory vent settings suck for mushrooms bags. The first vent time is ok to get the ambient air out, but you want at least 4 seconds of vent time to allow the bags to "breathe" when cooking and that is when cooking a single layer in each drum (ie 4 x 5 lbs bags). We run at 121C for 3 hours but have run higher temps (but it damages proteins and sugars more)

[@HiphopJPC]

@@silverleapers Hey man, would you mind sharing the details on that 400L unit? I order my bags from Satrise, I've been talking to my contact about a single phase autoclave, largest they can do in 6kw is 150L...

[@fostprimoz]

Can you please help me, i have same one, and have a problem with bag bursting. I belive because autoclave immidately realese pressure after finnishing sterilization cycle 🤦‍♂️ and yea, manual sucks 🤮

[@blj1964]

ive watched a lot of videos you are incredible! Plus you are so respectful to the comments even the fact that you take the time to answer. Great Work!

[@OakandSpore]

Thanks mate! I try to answer most comments, but there can be a few to get through!

[@SweebahNZ]

Is there an extended bonus cut of Tom just struggling with the box?

[@OakandSpore]

If only they made everything like they made that box..

[@hvfd1221]

For 2500 usd thats not to bad at all! Can't wait to see how it performs!

[@OakandSpore]

Neither can I!

[@gabewalker9170]

Chur bro I've added the notification bell so I never miss another clip. Nice bit of kit. Be great to see it fire up for the first time. Not sure we are still getting free trade from Aus anymore lol. Are you going to do your bulk substrate in this beast and ditch your atmosphere set up all together if it's pinging? Impressive come up bro. Chur

[@gabewalker9170]

Forget answering my question I just read the answer below.

[@gabewalker9170]

I'll ask another question though. Did you consider gas boiler powered at all and if so what made you go electric?

[@OakandSpore]

haha nah not gas. It's not that cheap and you don't have fine control with gas like you do with electricity.

[@FreshfromtheFarmFungi]

looks quality! Nice find

[@OakandSpore]

Thanks!

[@mike_lives]

Its been 2yrs. Any regret? Still running? Im looking at getting the Lanphan 150L

[@lukerobertson1123]

How loud is it when releasing pressure ?

[@ThankGood123]

Is three hours overkill for rye berries?

[@themyceliumnetwork]

Oh man........ do you know that its 6:30am on Sunday morning in my part of Canada. Congrats on the first made in China purchase that you seem happy with !!

[@OakandSpore]

Nothing like watching a youtube at 6:30 am!

[@HiphopJPC]

Hey man, had my eye on this exact unit for the past 12 months. Are you using this for substrate or spawn? And are you running it at 30psi? How do the bags hold up?

[@OakandSpore]

Just using it for spawn.

[@HiphopJPC]

@@OakandSpore Cool. What's the maximum run-time on these things? the spec sheet for the one I'm looking at says 0-99min

[@taylormcconnell9604]

Awesome!

[@OakandSpore]

get my steam on...

[@ScottYdo]

How many 10 lb bags can you put in it? What is pressure relief set at?

[@rbailey2678]

Hi Tom, Are you still happy with this unit? I can get this exact one to my door for $2150 aud. Run time and cooling time before opening? Thanks, Bec

[@jesseslivin]

How did the Autoclave go, is there a follow up video?

[@kimyusaf9589]

Nice one Tom!

[@OakandSpore]

Thanks!

[@brandonberchtold9484]

This is a great review! I just ordered an autoclave simmilar to this one. How loud was yours when you ran it? Did it periodically vent steam while it was running?

[@OakandSpore]

Yep, preiodically releases a short burst of steam while running.

[@kemaltasyurek]

@@OakandSpore Can you really put around 20 bags in it at the same time and sterilize them sucessfully?

[@funkyleg9389]

Hey i love your videos ! best mushroom channel in my opinion! Could you give an update on the autoclave ? greets from Germany:)

[@Yassous83]

I have either the exact same autoclave or a slight variation and the electrician coming tomorrow to set it up on its own circuit (giving it a little head room with 20A.) Super eager (and a little nervous) to see how it performs ☺️ Best of luck to us 🙌 Please share you go with yours.

[@OakandSpore]

I wont have mine going for a few weeks, but looking forward to it!

[@basti7551]

same here! Also waiting for the final installation by the electrician..

[@rbailey2678]

How did yours go Basti? Looking at ordering one into Australia. Run time and cooling time? Would you buy again?

[@lukerobertson1123]

how loud is it when it vents to stabilize pressure?

[@andrew1717xx]

Overall, good welding. The placement of the electronics in my opinion is poor. The fan exacerbate the lack of shielding on the bottom. I also agree, I don't Ike that tubing. If I were to compare it to an old dental sterilizer I own because the electronics failed the dentist, it has the same setup to have failures. Except is is vertical, not horizontal. You might notice that the housing only serves to trap heat and hide condensation. I admire the size of this pressure vessel though! That might speed up cycles!

[@OakandSpore]

There are probabley a lot of improvements that can be made to it.. I am looking forward to seeing it operate.

[@andrew1717xx]

@@OakandSpore Definately! She looks like a beauty!

[@lanalee9294]

OOOOOhhh very nice

[@OakandSpore]

Thanks!

[@dickusmaxximun8126]

Do they sell hammers in NZ?

[@OakandSpore]

No, our government imposed a hammer ban.

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

Would be nice to know where you got it from

[@sumayaparuhveen6703]

Hey congrats for new machine Atouclave is it. I'm also start mushroom farm inspired u people.

[@OakandSpore]

Best of luck

[@johnbrzenksforearm8295]

The Chinese have definitely gotten better at making stuff over the years, but it's still no where near the quality of American, Canadian, European or even Japanese. Many of us have no choice but to buy from the Chinese because the price fits the tab, especially if you are trying to start or expand a small business.

[@OakandSpore]

You just cant beat their price eh..

[@sdg3216]

Awesome 👍 let us know how you like it

[@OakandSpore]

We will!

[@ThePhilcam]

mm i would have chinese quality over US quality any day... However would probably have european before both. Even the latest and greatest Teslas ex China are ranked above the US ones.

[@Nick-hj8bg]

US Tesla certainly produces lots of lemons 🍋

[@paul.phillips]

The US should have a free trade deal with New Zealand and most if not all other nations. What the heck is wrong with our politicians? Sterilizer looks pretty good, I think I saw the same one on Alibaba last time I looked. Nice!

[@OakandSpore]

I think we never got a free trade deal becuase the french government bombed a ship in a NZ dock, and when NZ asked America to flex their muscle and tell the french off, America wouldn't. So the NZ pretty much banned all US ships from entering NZ ports, and the rest is pretty much history...

[@DrGaryGreen]

@@OakandSpore Thought they were banned due to nuke power.

[@OakandSpore]

@@DrGaryGreen yes, we banned nuke power, thus banning the entirity of the us navy.

[@themyceliumnetwork]

found this video, it looks like it automatically lets off the pressure when the cycle is done, can only hope that its slow enough so that your bags do not expand & fail due to the quick pressure loss. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5TMlINjh9l3ba8

[@thanksgivingshopper5851]

Very nice. How much it cost EXW and what is shipping cost?

[@OakandSpore]

I got it FOB, and it was 2.5k usd shipped.

[@thanksgivingshopper5851]

@@OakandSpore so 2.5k USD total include material and shipped. I guess 100l?

[@Jeffery_Saulter]

How much was it?

[@dukeboy1323]

If that is the case, this thing is a freaking bargain!

[@themyceliumnetwork]

@@dukeboy1323 is a price posted cause I dont see it, I only see your post & @Jeffery Sauler's post.

[@dukeboy1323]

@@themyceliumnetwork I think my post got deleted by youtube, whoops!

[@OakandSpore]

Forgot to mention! It was 2.5k usd shipped.

[@dukeboy1323]

@@OakandSpore That's a freaking bargain!!!!

[@dukeboy1323]

How many Kilowatts does it use for one cycle! I thinking of getting one!

[@OakandSpore]

I haven't ran it yet. But it's a 6km autoclave, so times that per how many hours you're running it for.

[@dukeboy1323]

@@OakandSpore would you say it's less energy efficient than your big ol steaming tub? Also, is there any chance I could ask you some questions for like an hour in discord one time? I'd be happy to pay for your time! Just made some nice gains in crypto and looking to expand my size a bit and go full time mushrooms here in South Australia! 🇦🇺🐨🦘

[@DrGaryGreen]

@@OakandSpore Km? You literally mean running don't you?

[@OakandSpore]

@@DrGaryGreen lol, i mean kw...

[@DrGaryGreen]

Everything in the USA is made in China, so all you've done is cut out the middleman. Clever Gwi-low.

[@OakandSpore]

hahaha I actually googled gwilow! I literally made me laugh

[@ripoffrecords]

The Presto 23qrt is $300AU. The exact same Presto without "made in USA" is $90 free shipping from China. I buy loads of shit from China, like Stihl 2 stroke motor carb's &or kits. Same deal they are made in the same factories just without the Stihl logo, dirt cheap, with no shipping fees. People put loads of shit on China but most of their household goods all made in China. Be good to know exactly why you purchased it & how much versus making your own from a s/steel 45 gal. Seems like not a lot of capacity tbh.

[@OakandSpore]

Yeah, here in NZ nearly every product you buy is Chinese made. This autoclave is just for my spawn, not for bull substrate. I have a much bigger steamer setup for this.

[@dylanjones7798]

Why not just get an All American 941 for half the price?

[@OakandSpore]

Because this is 4x the size.. And importing from America is expensive AF.

[@dylanjones7798]

@@OakandSpore 4x?! How many 5lb bags of grain can it run at once??

[@OakandSpore]

I'm not sure. It's 150 litres. Once I hook it up and get it running I'll know.

[@raulsalina1163]

@@dylanjones7798 I can fit 28 bags in my unit.

[@Russkiybobr]

Mmmm, I bet it wasn't a coded welder doing those welds. I'd pressure test the fk out of it first.

[@youssefrochdi1994]

What makes you think that?

[@shamefurudispray4193]

Honestly the USA does not have a good manufacturing reputation here and pricey to boot. Germans do though, but not cheap. Chinese cheaper but quality is a gamble.

[@OakandSpore]

I think around the world the USA is known to be able to manufacture, it's just hard to actually find stuff which is manufactured in the US.

[@choiceaz1]

yo

[@OakandSpore]

Your comments are good as your warding...

[@sebumgold3108]

American cars are made with Chinese parts lol.

[@ryanchase2873]

Let's all buy products from the country that gave the world Covid on purpose, so we can save a few dollars. Come on, man.

[@OakandSpore]

Where else should I buy a cost effective autoclave from? Because no one in NZ is making them.

[@austinbetters8730]

​@@OakandSpore sh scientific makes a solid unit south korean its amazing