Unboxing Insane Baitcasting Reel that is CNC'ed from a block - Bates Fishing Co Hundo

[@DK77201]

Thank you for the video. @13:17 When you were ready to show us the movement of the cup at the setting of 5, why did you cut away to talk about other things and not showing it?

[@rawrfishing]

Must have even a bad edit. But it moves out like a Daiwa reel. I work late at night to edit videos after kiddo sleeps. Taking a toll on my body. Thx for sharing with me. I will show it when I do a cast testing video.

[@joepicasso69]

Thank you for reviewing the Hundo. I am so looking to getting this reel, just because it is unique. I wonder if Bates will come out with a shllow BFS spool for the Hundo. That would make the Hundo versatile, since it has a spool clicker. Now that's a nice touch and just up'd the ante on the Shimano Metanium MGL, which I have.

[@rawrfishing]

Soon! They said they were interested but no details yet

[@joepicasso69]

Hi, what pound braid would be good for this reel? 20 or 30lb braid? It will be mounted on either a medium or medium heavy rod. Thank you for pointing out it has a drag clicker nice bonus!

[@rawrfishing]

I am using 20 lbs right now. Full spool of 150 meters 1.2 gou X4 line from Major Craft. It casts well and I would say 30 lbs braid should work Do know that this reel is smaller than most size 100 bait casting reels. It's closer to a size 80 based on spool capacity rating. Casts light lures pretty well

[@joepicasso69]

@rawrfishing , the Hundo arrived today, looking forward to check it out after work. I normally use 30lb braid on my baitcasters, so that's good to know. What do you think about the Hundo used to BFS, like 1/8oz lures and up of I used 10-15lb braid?

[@rawrfishing]

@@joepicasso69 cool man! Enjoy the reel, I like mine even tho I fished it only briefly before it got too cold

[@pacman_17]

I really like all the advancements in new dynamic braking systems and lighter spools in new reels. It forces the industry to push for new innovations as well. The 100 size is great for light fluoro line and braid.

[@rawrfishing]

Absolutely right! I can't wait to see how some of the smaller companies like Bates and Ark push Daiwa and Shimano for some new braking tech. But one thing for sure... Bate and Ark, in my opinion, surpassed all other reels that are not Shimano and Daiwa! Lews needs to step up and so do abu... KK is on the rise too!

[@pacman_17]

@@rawrfishing 💯💯💯

[@rpl4eva29]

Great video thanks for all the input. How is this real compared to Shimano and daiwa in regards to retrieve smoothness?

[@rawrfishing]

Thx. Stay tuned for fishing videos in the future to find out! Have not taken it out yet due to the holiday season. With that said... Happy holidays

[@rpl4eva29]

Sounds good!

[@ericlikewhoa]

any updates from fishing the bates Hundo? considering picking one up to replace a tranx 150 for saltwater inshore fishing. looks more durable than the tranx.

[@rawrfishing]

Been fishing it salt water. Loving it only one thing rusted... The nut on the handle.. Which I will probably ask em to send me a new one for the hell of it lol. But it's one of my fav reels!

[@ericlikewhoa]

@@rawrfishing awesome! with the new salty hundo out, it may help truly rust proof it with the titanium handle nut. but the shiny huno is my favorite finish lol

[@rawrfishing]

I like the shiny one too! But be cool to have the latest and greatest new one. But I just nabbed the OG 100 lol. Dropping That vid tomorrow

[@gerlor9425]

Any updates on fishing impression? How is the bates reel size compare to alphas or 2016 aldabarens in terms of palming and overall size.

[@rawrfishing]

Not yet, gotten sick over late fall into winter and the lakes were frozen until like today when it got a warm rain spell, but it will come eventually. I just dropped a video on the Tatula 100 and I think I will create a similar format for this reel, but closer to The Ark Gravity BFS reel since this reel here is a bit more complicated with extra brake settings. I can tell you that the reel is smaller than the Tatula 100, more of a size 80 spool, so the body is smaller. but not small as some BFS reels. I would say it's close to the Aldebaran 2016 size. casting wise, the brakes are weaker than Daiwa reels, which means it's more for advanced anglers.

[@adwhite804]

The machining you talked about I believe is called “nursing” similar to what’s used on heavy machinery,pew-pews, and many other uses actually. But that’s a unique design for sure

[@rawrfishing]

Thank you! Love the design! Imagine some neat cool patterns Bates can do for future reels or even custom stuff

[@adwhite804]

Nurling not Nursing dang auto correct

[@doinitwithjl5421]

The hundo will throw bfs weight lures quite well. Try it out and you might be suprised. I have had mine since October mounted on a 5'4 ray tarantula.

[@rawrfishing]

I did that iCast 👍👍👍 very impressive

[@rmorris75252]

Does your cast control knob click louder when tightening it vs loosening it?

[@rawrfishing]

Yes! The tension knob clicks, but u only use it once! Set like a Daiwa zero tension adjuster and don't look back!

[@rmorris75252]

@@rawrfishing yeah mine clicks louder when tightening it but not quite as loud when loosening and I was sure if that was meant to be that way or not. But is that with just a hair amount of play or just one click to the point of zero play?

[@rawrfishing]

Yes! Loose tension with zero or little side to side play of the spool

[@torment6369]

I think thats a doyo variant. Not sure which model of the doyo baitcasters but the breaks are the same. I picked up a doyo rainbow IV recently and its been great so far. The thing I kinda wish is they keep the hook keeper that comes with the baitcaster on the back side. Very useful in my opinion.

[@rawrfishing]

Hehe.. Nice guess but.. This is American designed with zero Doyo! I have spoken with Bates and they agree that there's an interesting perspective about the company. Perhaps they will be able to push out some nice content that will tell everyone a bit more about their company and reel designs. But on the other hand.. Lews... They need to utilize some more recent and cooler Doyo reels. I heard a lot of good things on stuff that we Americans don't get to see!

[@torment6369]

@@rawrfishing That's interesting to see no doyo in it. Maybe its the matrix breaking system then that's becoming more prevalent in reels from what I've seen. The new or maybe not new Loongze cnc round reel has that breaking system in it too. I am eyeing up that reel since a bfs with a dc noise is hard to find!

[@rawrfishing]

Loongze is a new company and I can tell yall a bit more when I drop their reel unboxing video and do cast testing!

[@pacman_17]

It looks like the "front plate" where you rest your index finger is also part of the frame. Usually it's a plastic front plate on most reels. Shimano calls it "Coresolid Body" which they have in their Bantam and higher end reels.

[@rawrfishing]

yes! many baitcasting reels are not made that way. they are usually added on somehow.

[@andreiiancu5144]

Hey, what would you pick between the Loongze BFS CNC reel and Daiwa Salamandura Air? Since both are almost at the same price I'm curious about your thoughts. Thank you!

[@rawrfishing]

Too soon to know! Will let u know after a cast testing session!

[@andreiiancu5144]

@@rawrfishing thank you! Will definetly watch it. I need to know because I want to buy it and I'm not sure yet. The Salamandura Air seems as a strong pick but another full metal reel would be even better.

[@rawrfishing]

@@andreiiancu5144 Salamandura was interesting. U got a heavy spool but micro bearings. I felt it wasn't great with the stock spool, but with the Roro spool, It is an UL monster. I Wanna spend more time with the Salamandura stock spool and heavier lures. But sounds like I have a bunch of work to do in 2024 lol

[@IlliniDog01]

​@@rawrfishing "work".. be sure to catch a few fish in there too.

[@rawrfishing]

That's part of the process! Lol but work is gonna change! I need to be more efficient and effective in my videos and I need a strategy!

[@adwhite804]

I mean the reel cover is just a time when you drop almost 4 bills. However, American made, and it’s a piece of CNC mastery. Would love to have one. Seem like great reels, well made & again.. made in America. So I get it 100%. Now I just gotta find that money tree everyone used to talk about.

[@rawrfishing]

I wish I can grow money 💸💸💸💵💵💶💴💷 But I am excited for this reel! Seems really good

[@EddieLindsay681]

I see some Loongze in that reel

[@rawrfishing]

I know a lot about the two companies! Details to come when I do my loongze unboxing ;)

[@rawrfishing]

but to accurately say it.. we see some Bates in Loongze!

[@treehunter1]

Got this reel for under $300. Pretty good so far

[@rawrfishing]

Always good to look for sales! 🎣🎣🎣👍👍👍

[@bernicemcclendon574]

That's an awesome look baitcaster can't wait to see the casting video

[@rawrfishing]

Can't wait either! The test cast at icast was nice! But I wanna try it with my rods, lines and lures!

[@xibfwmz]

Diawa brakes are outdated and their reels too bulky, never herd of bates but 350 reel?? Hard to get that over a zillion or bantam

[@rawrfishing]

If you say outdated meaning that others such as this reel can do adjustments easily to the braking power, then i totally agree. But at least their reels are still pretty good and amazing to use! But if you think it's outdated for other reasons, please share too! I certainly love to see more innovation from this big company! Certainly hard to pay for an expensive reel like this over the high end Daiwa reels, but you know what? I think this is a perfect opportunity for me to put this reel to the test. I do have the Zillion SV TW G, so it's gonna be cool to beat up this reel for 2024 and see why it is priced this high. From the unboxing and also watching other youtubers tear down this reel, it looks mighty impressive!

[@xibfwmz]

@rawrfishing yes that's what I mean, beginner friendly, I prefer centrifugal brake and fine tuning myself, but for the price zillion, bantam or metanium are proven and big names, interested to see you full review of the bates

[@lukediepfishing]

They’re not bulky, these reels are just different sizes. The daiwa size equivalent to the hundo is actually the Tatula 80.

[@rawrfishing]

@@lukediepfishing I am leaning towards this as well. Spool capacity seems closer to an 80 than 100!

[@rawrfishing]

@@xibfwmz nice! I like magnetic braking because it's easier to teach as we set the tension once and done!

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

$375 for a baitcaster????😢

[@rawrfishing]

Yep! Not bad for how it is made. My Shimano Calcutta Conquest BFS Reel cost way more than that if the currency conversion wasn't as messed up. To give you a perspective, the Aldebaran BFS 22 sold in the US is over 400 dollars.. If Shimano sells the Ccbfs23 in the US... Bet it's close to 600!

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

@@rawrfishing we need a coupon code or discount lto purchase this reel

[@rawrfishing]

If I end up loving the reel and it's a reel I can highly recommend, I will ask Bates for one ;)

[@xDx0xUxGx]

$375 is slightly above mid range price for bait casters...

[@rawrfishing]

375 is the start of high end. So u can say it's upper mid range or the very low high end!

[@adwhite804]

Correction folks… NURLING not nursing, gotta Luv autocorrect

[@rawrfishing]

You can edit your original post ;)

[@batesfishingco]

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[@rawrfishing]

:) beautiful reel guys and thanks for the opportunity to play with this! I shall put this through some good usage!

[@luismartinez-db2gp]

I would appreciate your opinion on a super budget friendly reel that I’ve been looking at on Temu And I would like to have your opinion on this real before I purchase it is a super budget friendly real it’s about $18or$19 or $20 it comes with two spools a deep spool and a shallow sport the name of the real is SEASIR CAST-X I will appreciate your opinion on this real before I purchase it

[@rawrfishing]

Sorry, I'm not into the super cheap temu stuff! While some are super deals, the time spent to cull through bad ones are a waste of time and money. My channel have moved away from these sort of content as I want to use the time to focus on family. You can check Peter's channel out for that or the bfs budget group on FB! Not only you will find other KZbin folks but a massive community who can tell you if a reel is good or not!

[@geraldoferreira3882]

Looks like Haibo-ARISE

[@rawrfishing]

mmmm got some similarities... but which one you think looks better? :P

[@geraldoferreira3882]

@@rawrfishing I don't know but her in Brazil some baitcaster to fish de bigs peacock bass, it's important bronze main gear and alluminium body, I don't know if it has the same application...

[@rawrfishing]

I get it... They be pulling good lol. What's the biggest u have caught?

[@geraldoferreira3882]

@@rawrfishing 77cm, about 8kg...

[@rawrfishing]

Wow... That eat anything here lol