Unboxing, Setup and Review. Ellipal Titan Hardware Cryptocurrency Wallet. (Bitcoin, Ethereum, BSC)

[@ellipalwallet]

Thank you for the good review. It is a good tutorial for account setting, transaction making!

[@CryptoGuide]

No worries :)

[@jackstapleton7337]

For some reason I'm unable to access my cold wallet as the back ground on my ellipal app is orange and it does not require me to scan the hard wallet when sending crypto (only password). I scanned all 29 barcodes and believe i configured everything properly... Any idea??

[@CryptoGuide]

So have you selected the cold wallet? Sounds like you are using it as a software wallet.

[@ellipalwallet]

@@jackstapleton7337 Hi, orange is hot wallet. Cold wallet account on ELLIPAL App is blue. If you have any issue on clod wallet, pls write to our cs team:[e-mail]. They will support you.

[@anthonyescobar4083]

The app for this product sucks the customer service sucks. Right now my app is telling me the wrong prices it's not uploading and it's saying network error I recommend Nobody by this

[@user-db2yk6rl8e]

Very Good support , ellipal worked with me to resolve software issues

[@CryptoGuide]

Good to hear :)

[@casienwhey]

Video started out good but then I got lost in the details. I'd recommend going through it first on your own, then do the video once it's clearer.

[@CryptoGuide]

Where exactly did you get lost? Have you tried just watching it again (the magic of KZbin)

[@GuyDanielsMusicEtc]

Got an Ellipal and just unboxing it months later...how long to charge? Thx

[@GuyDanielsMusicEtc]

Been 2 hrs and nothing. Brand new out the box.

[@CryptoGuide]

It didn't take that long, you should have some indication that it is charging within a few minutes, even from dead flat. That said, the connector can be a bit fiddly, so are you sure it is making contact?

[@ricks6792]

I started thinking about buying a hardware wallet. So far, I have only used my Ownr wallet

[@CryptoGuide]

They are certainly a big step up in terms of security. What are you looking do store?

[@babswaterton4340]

Thanks for your video, I have forgotten my Passphrase, do you have a video that assists me in setting up a new Passphrase?? Thanks so much for a fellow Aussie from Sydney

[@CryptoGuide]

If you forgot your BIP39 passphrase, the only way to access your funds is to work out what that passphrase was... The only way to do this is by brute-force, which can happen by hand (so trying lots of passphrases manually) or with a tool like BTCRecover. (You can check out my videos on passphrase recovery with BTCRecover) If you mean that you forgot your 12 or 24 word recovery seed then this is an unrecoverable loss.

[@kainhoro6427]

What is the purpes of having more acount,does the exchange dont see the same adres then? And is it able to fuse the coins from two different acounts?

[@CryptoGuide]

Privacy, as accounts are totally separate. Accounting, as you may have multiple different groupings for funds. Security for defi, as it lets you have one account where you do things like approve smart contracts and another where you simply store things. (Meaning that a malicious smart contract couldn't take everything)

[@kainhoro6427]

@@CryptoGuide so the exchange cant see if you use more acounts on the same wallet? And is it positie to fuse the coins if when you have two acounts?

[@CryptoGuide]

Separate accounts are totally segregated and look the same as independent devices to an outside observer. The function independently, but depending on the wallet software, can be viewed as part of a single portfolio. (So with say, a Ledger or a Trezor)

[@kainhoro6427]

@@CryptoGuide oke thanks

[@kainhoro6427]

@@CryptoGuide and if you want to collect all coin to one acount is that possible

[@anthonyaguanno5732]

What is your opinion on bitlox for a bitcoin only hardware wallet?

[@CryptoGuide]

I would avoid it. Have never heard of it, clicked through to their website and the link to the manual didn't work... Wallets in this form factor are also going to have some serious tradeoffs, see my reviews of the Jubiter Blade and the Coolwallet S. Edit: The Bitlox Github sems to be dead too... No updates in 5 years... No news/blog articles... Doubt it would even ship if you ordered one.

[@TheGoldeagle99]

What's the best way to put our private keys on the Titan from a Trust Wallet? Do we just import the seed phrase? Good video!!! 👌👍.

[@CryptoGuide]

The Titan will allow you to directly import the mnemonic from Trust, so you can just do that. I would also suggest using the Titan to generate a fresh new seed as well, as a big part of the benefit of a hardware wallet is having a seed that has always remained offline.

[@stinckyfoot]

so, i have my coin in the Ellipal app. I want to transfer it to my Titan. What barcode am I scanning initially to start the transfer to the titan? Thank you

[@CryptoGuide]

So have you paired the titan with the app?

[@milkcookies7753]

Hi does this support ADA without a third party wallet

[@CryptoGuide]

Yes

[@ComboKingMC]

Would you recommend this or the Keystone pro device? Or would you recommend a Trezor model T? I just dont like the idea of a small device. New to Crypto wallets and really need some help!

[@CryptoGuide]

Keystone wins hands down when compared to Ellipal, they aren't even in the same category. Trezor T is way overpriced for what you get as well.

[@ComboKingMC]

@@CryptoGuide Thank you tons. What would be your top 3 crypto wallet recommendations? for beginners if you dont mind

[@CryptoGuide]

Are there any specific cryptos that you are planning to store? (And are you planning to use Defi things like pancake swap?)

[@ComboKingMC]

@@CryptoGuide Eth, ADA, XRP, DOT and SOL but mainly the first 3.

[@CryptoGuide]

The presence of ADA certainly limits your choices. Basically the Nano X can support everything you are after so that would be number 1, as minimising the number of backups required is always very worthwhile as opposed to having coins spread over multiple wallets. The Trezor T can support the first three as well, but is quite expensive for what you get, so that would be number 2 as you can still use it with Ada wallets like Yoroi, Eth wallets like Metamask, etc, with Ellipal coming in at 3 as you are basically stuck with their software stack for the most part. (Though can use walletconnect for Eth stuff)

[@earlyadopter3121]

The information provided here has been very helpful. I have a request. Are you able to show a tutorial of the steps to add a seperate account. I am needing to keep the assets already on the Ellipal seperate from additional assets. Keeping these assets apart is necessary related to long-term and short-term tax implications. Can you help? Please and Thank you!

[@CryptoGuide]

The Ellipal is very basic and only allows one account per coin. Basically you will need to either create multiple mnemonics, or possibly multiple passphrase.

[@Ghlowy]

@@CryptoGuide what do you mean by this? I have a single account with mine holding xrp, eth and MATIC all on one account!

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@songtiengiang1291]

How do i add coin on the cold wallet, i have centraland Mana transferred to my wallet and show up on my app, but not on the cold wallet? Thanks.

[@CryptoGuide]

Have you tried just clicking the + icon and adding MANA?

[@songtiengiang1291]

@@CryptoGuide good morning, thank you for quick answering my question. I had a few question for you, yes i have ask Ellipal but it seem i di not have the right answer i needed. I had Ellipal titan bundle and got it updated to the newst version too. I presently had to added tokens (Mana and Matic) because it was not on my main assets screen on the mobile app and the Ellipal cold wallet. What i did was followed the instruction help from Ellipal. On maint screen assets - I clicked on ETH -> + my token search for Mana/Matic and added. But it was not added to the assets main screen but rather on the sub ETH screen, i did managed to sent some Matic to the recieving address successfully. My question is, if none of the token i needed not there on the app assets screen, and (also NOT on the cold wallet main screen) then how do i SIGN for transaction if i need to send it? How do i add that token to the cold wallet ? Thank you so much for your time and have a good Friday morning and weekend. Nguyen

[@CryptoGuide]

You just sign these tokens as normal, they use your eth address so there is no extra configuration required

[@magik4life253]

What is the "Import account" button option? Is that where you import seed phrase from hot wallet?

[@CryptoGuide]

You could import a BIP39 seed from a previous wallet, paper wallet, etc.

[@magik4life253]

@@CryptoGuide then what is the "recover mnemonic"? Which do I use to Import hot wallet into ellipal?

[@CryptoGuide]

You can use it to import the seed from a hot wallet... Though you likely don't want to do this, as it undermines much of the security that is offered by a hardware wallet...

[@magik4life253]

@@CryptoGuide Which option allows me to import from hot wallet...."recover mnemonic" or "import account"?

[@CryptoGuide]

Either, it depends on what kind of hot wallet you have

[@ilievskiilia]

Can you please tell me if can be stored Shiba Inu coins on Ellipal Titan? Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

Yep

[@suphakityok519]

I'm very interested in Eillpal Titan wallet, but want to know a little more information before making a purchase. If I have coins in Mate mask wallet and Trust wallet, can I withdraw to deposit in Eillpal Titan wallet?

[@CryptoGuide]

The Ellipal will support your Metamask coins as long as it's on a chain that the Ellipal also supports. (So Eth, BSC, etc)

[@Hunter_s_morrison]

Where do you get the recipient address from??

[@CryptoGuide]

You just hit recieve on the coin you want to receive...

[@babswaterton4340]

Hi I contacted Ellipal Titan they have said they can’t help me as it’s a Passphrase unique to me, do you have any ideas??Thanks your fellow Aussie!

[@CryptoGuide]

If you forgot your BIP39 passphrase, the only way to access your funds is to work out what that passphrase was... The only way to do this is by brute-force, which can happen by hand (so trying lots of passphrases manually) or with a tool like BTCRecover. (You can check out my videos on passphrase recovery with BTCRecover) If you mean that you forgot your 12 or 24 word recovery seed then this is an unrecoverable loss.

[@babswaterton4340]

@@CryptoGuide well I worked out a way you can create another account which saved me from having to buy another device, so all good! Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

Ah riteo, a reset is simple, but it sounded like you had lost access to an old wallet with funds.

[@rubenrodriguez9096]

im probably doing something wrong.. i already created a wallet allready have it on my phone you see how yours saYS COLD WALLET mines its orange and its says Mnemonic whe is that

[@CryptoGuide]

This means you aren't actually using the Ellipal hardware device, but are just using their app on your phone as a software wallet.

[@_CharlieHarper]

hello, is this the Grey one or the White one in your video?

[@CryptoGuide]

Grey or white what?

[@_CharlieHarper]

@@CryptoGuide there are three case-colours available : 1/ Grey, 2/ Gold and 3/ White. Basically I would expect the Grey one to be the most used, but in the video it could also be the White case version, therefore I'm asking ...

[@CryptoGuide]

They would all be the same, the one I have is shown in the video.

[@jackh9934]

Good video but do you know how to get an unsigned QR code for currency already in your wallet. Thanks

[@CryptoGuide]

What do you mean? Do you want to know how to craft a custom transaction? (The process is different for each coin)

[@bashxnmx]

You trying to figure out how to make numbers appear on your wallet to? Transfer wise.

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@Jr-kc3it]

Can you sell crypto on the ellipal app or hardware device or only buy and send?

[@CryptoGuide]

I just had a look and it seems that you can buy with a credit card, but not sell.

[@Jr-kc3it]

@@CryptoGuide do you know which hardware device sells crypto incase any exchanges go down due to volume?

[@CryptoGuide]

None do, they are all simply on-selling the services of a centralised exchange or service.

[@Devil-024]

just the same as safpal. but safpall is Credit card format. and This one is an phone format.

[@CryptoGuide]

No... Safepal is worse, fully closed source without any ability to verify, only allows a single seed/wallet to be used... (you can check my feature comparison to see specifically how the safepal scores badly) Neither are on-par with the likes of a Keystone.

[@chidinmaigbokwe2164]

I just got my Ellipal titan, setting up watching this video, I can't seem to set language in English no option for English, someone plz help

[@CryptoGuide]

Just click th cog icon in the top left and the language is the top menu option. Select the language you want the click the top right.

[@damienoquias1502]

What about having 2 ellipads? One for the majority of your coins and the second for everyday use. Couldn't you just theoretically transfer coins from one too another as needed? Can anyone give me some advice about this. Looking to buy a second cold storage and this method seems to be a logically and great way to do things

[@CryptoGuide]

You can have two hardware wallets if you like, there is no issue there.

[@damienoquias1502]

@@CryptoGuide what about when upgrading the device. Would this not be perfect?

[@damienoquias1502]

@@CryptoGuide seeing operability? The QR system would seem to be a great way to go between the cold wallets.

[@CryptoGuide]

The main long term concern is making sure that you keep your seed backups secure and robust. The devices themselves should basically be considered consumables, especially given that Ellipal doesn't have any 3rd party software. (Though it's at least possible due to their open QR standard)

[@brett6247]

Perfect timing. I was actually thinking about getting an ellipal titan or a cobo vault pro. The cobo vault seems more secure but the ellipal supports more coins. Funny how you can never get everything you want. My question is what if I bought the ellipal or cobo vault pro & had all my crypto on it & one day ellipal or cobo vault goes out of business & I could never get my hands on another ellipal or cobo vault , would I be able to purchase a ledger nano & use my recovery seed phrase & recover all of my crypto onto the ledger nano. Great video by the way. Love your accent too. Thank you.

[@CryptoGuide]

Both use BIP39 seeds and have no problem using something like a Ledger to recover the funds. (The only issue with Ellipal that I demo in the video is trying to go the other way, so restore a Ledger/Trezor seed on an Ellipal) The issue with Cobo is that they have actually stopped selling hardware and are in the process of relaunching those products under the "Keystone" brand, with stuff apparently starting to ship from the end of this month.

[@brett6247]

Wow thank you for the info. Very informative. I appreciate you answering my question. Have a great day.

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@jovanperic4214]

Thank you for this useful video. I have a question for you . Just recently I purchase my Ellipal and successfully set it up. I have transferred some of crypto already. That part is clear. The question I have is, where exactly my crypto is stored? On the hard wallet or on the Ellipal wallet? Thank you.

[@CryptoGuide]

Neither, it's stored on the blockchain(s) at addresses associated with the seed that your Ellipal created and stored at the initial setup. You seed IS you wallet, the physical Ellipal just lets you securely generate, store and use it. You can see this at work in my video where I use the same seed on multiple wallets kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3LHnqmiaL-Sma8 I also talk about this a bit more here kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3TdipaYoMutaJI

[@os2841]

on the blockchain yo

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@GeneralMajorMarc]

But just assuming that in a few years the Elipal app no longer exists because the company is insolvent or for other reasons, without the app there would be no way to access cryptocurrencies, would there? (This also applies to other rulers) Without the app, there would be no access. I know this is very far-fetched, but I'm thinking about how storage would be possible for decades. Thank you very much.

[@CryptoGuide]

It's not far fetched at all. The Ellipal uses a BIP39 seed phrase (just like any other hardware wallet with using) so you can just restore the seed in another hardware or software wallet.

[@neostreamz7997]

Hey buddy maybe u can help I’m trying to move my shiba inu from this cold wallet to another wallet and I’m doing everything by the book and it’s not working but I still get charge eth fee

[@CryptoGuide]

Sounds like you are just setting the fees too low. Have you looked on a block explorer to see why it's failing?

[@neostreamz7997]

Thank u very much for getting back to me now the setting fees I really don’t touch them I just leave it as it is but I will check the block explorer Thanxx

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@totallyraw1313]

Thanks Crypto Guide! Btw how old are you mate?

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped. :) Old enough to remember life before smartphones.

[@totallyraw1313]

@@CryptoGuide Haha so about 40 yrs old, right?

[@CryptoGuide]

Within a decade of that, yea ;)

[@seumateutongsin6362]

Great job in providing a review of the product. I have seen a video of ledger nano and trezor had been brute force and hacked in. Ellipal has a feature of anti-disassembly and anti-tamper protection that I really like.

[@CryptoGuide]

You are mistaken with what you think you saw with Ledger. The Ellipal is actually less secure than the Ledger as it doesn't have a secure element. (Though pin extraction has been demonstrated for Trezor)

[@jackstapleton7337]

For some reason I'm unable to access my cold wallet as the back ground on my ellipal app is orange and it does not require me to scan the hard wallet when sending crypto (only password). I scanned all 29 barcodes and believe i configured everything properly... Any idea??

[@CryptoGuide]

So have you selected the cold wallet? Sounds like you are using it as a software wallet.

[@jackstapleton7337]

​@@CryptoGuide Correct, I selected cold wallet and confirmed all 29 barcodes were scanned.

[@jackstapleton7337]

@@CryptoGuide Fixed, thanks!

[@CryptoGuide]

So what was it in the end?

[@cocotico9997]

You installed the hot wallet. The orange one. If if you don't connect to app you have hotwallet. I went through the same. Now I'm trying to get hot wallet and its not letting me. I uninstalled the app install it again and goes straight to coldwallet

[@cocotico9997]

I'm having issues withdrawing ada! The app gives me 2 qr codes to scan; but when I scan them it says data scaned failed

[@CryptoGuide]

I don't have any ADA to test with at the moment, so best bet is to ask Ellipal support.

[@cocotico9997]

@@CryptoGuide thank for the reply! Yes I emailed them to see what is going on ( I also haven't updated it to the latest version 295 maybe it could be that! But it's scares me not knowing what is the issue . I also want to use it as hot wallet but it's not letting me. I reinstall the app and it goes straight to cold wallet. It used to ask me connect to cold wallet;create account or import account

[@CryptoGuide]

So what happens if you click the bottom in the top right, click the plus and select to create wallet?

[@cocotico9997]

@@CryptoGuide nothing it goes to my cold wallet bar blue bar and add account. I can't do a few things until I update it to 2.9.5 version

[@CryptoGuide]

That sounds correct... So what happens when you click "Add account", it should let you either connect to a cold wallet or add account.

[@mattporter7796]

Anyone know if this can store QNT and VXV??

[@CryptoGuide]

Are these just tokens in the Eth (or BSC) network?

[@mattporter7796]

@@CryptoGuide they are on the ETH network, thanks for you quick reply 👍

[@CryptoGuide]

They should work fine, if in doubt you can download their app, create a software wallet and double check.

[@mattporter7796]

@@CryptoGuide brilliant thanks for the info! 👍 P.s buy some QNT while it’s still cheap 😉

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@mrvincefox]

Thank u for the review. U saved me from wasting money on this junk

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@TALKCalgary]

The ability to securely import private keys is a real time saver, especially if it could handle encrypted paper wallets. That said, everything else on the Titian looks so poorly designed and insecure. Ultimately importing private keys is all I would it use it for. - Well perhaps it would make a good paper weight!

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea other than the private key import, it's really quite a poor device.

[@daslolo]

privacy score of 20% is low so I looked at your spreadsheet and AF15->AJ15 read more as security features than privacy. Maybe add a few more column on what data gets gathered by each vendor's phone app. Secux and ledget on ios grab quite a few data points for example.

[@CryptoGuide]

It's actually unknowable what is being collected with things like the Ellipal as it's all closed source. (Though the fact that you can't even choose to use a 3rd party wallet is a big part of the problem)

[@daslolo]

How about the app store's "data used to track you" ?

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea they could pull data from the app store, but I'm talking about what wallet/usage information they may be retaining.

[@daslolo]

Oh I see. I see you haven't tested the Arculus. From what I gather it's very opaque to the user, which you might not like one bit. I'm torn between convenience and *that*

[@CryptoGuide]

Yea I did a quick google and wouldn't touch the Arculus... It's just an app with an NFC smart card, so no real address verification, etc... It's not even in the same category as a proper hardware wallet.

[@bugcat12004]

Noobie here. I set up this device but now I need to get crypto to cold wallet, correct? How do I do that using my hot wallet in uphold?

[@CryptoGuide]

Uphold is a bit confusing... Basically you will need to select that you want to transfer to a crypto network and then put in the address from the Ellipal.

[@leeg7352]

I think by about 10 mins into this video I decided I won't be buying one, life is too short.

[@CryptoGuide]

There are certainly better wallets on the market :)

[@j317]

@@CryptoGuide like what

[@CryptoGuide]

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[@OPIXdotWORLD]

thanx...i find them good too

[@CryptoGuide]

It's certainly a departure from the general design principles of other devices in that it's more of an Eth/token type wallet than something that was designed as BTC first (or only) type device. I haven't had to do transactions by hand for a while, so that was novel too ;)

[@OPIXdotWORLD]

@@CryptoGuide they are almost all eth based...except my fav...coldcard...but i like ellipal too and also cobo...also use safepal too sometimes... ...ready to retire the old trezors now i think...?

[@CryptoGuide]

I still make heavy use of Ledger, but do think that Trezor will need to innovate quite a bit to catch up for their next gen.

[@cocotico9997]

Is the ellipal titan worth?

[@cocotico9997]

@@OPIXdotWORLD meaning?

[@sanisidrocr]

Seems like a modified android smartphone with a wide attack surface and not really a true hardware wallet

[@CryptoGuide]

It is just a ruggedized, low end Android phone, so no secure element or anything like that. At the same time, they went with an SoC which doesn't have any radio time time and seem to have improved much of what made the first version quite poor. (This approach is also what let's it directly import paper wallets, additional mnemonic, etc, as storage isn't a limitation.) It's a hardware wallet in the sense that it's a function limited, purpose built device which doesn't share keys with the host device under any circumstances, but doesn't follow the same simplicity focused approach of something like a Trezor/ColdCard. At the same time, there are other factors beyond this which could be fixed in software which cause this device to score poorly in terms of security/privacy on my full feature comparison page. The biggest competition for devices like this one is an old iPhone + two part software wallets like AirGap Wallet or the CoinID Wallet.

[@sanisidrocr]

@@CryptoGuide Excellent information. Cheers. Cold Card is my favorite thus far.

[@CryptoGuide]

For those who can handle the learning curve and aren't concerned with alts, the ColdCard is certainly the way to go. :)

[@rickbowden9282]

Love the vedeoes thanks for all u do

[@CryptoGuide]

Glad it helped

[@jamescaleb9676]

this wallet is garbage. i put some crypto on just for a test and couldn't get it back off. just says, 'try again later'. no instructions, no customer service, no explanation, nothing. and the microsd card thing is just a joke. as though everyone has the adapter for that or has ever used one

[@CryptoGuide]

Worst case scenario you can just export the seed to a better wallet (Ledger/Trezor/Keystone)

[@stclairdavey]

😡From app not working properly to you talking unintelligible jiberish and jargon. There is no chance of winning any subs from beginners to crypto ...Absolute disaster..

[@CryptoGuide]

Just watch it again at 50% speed :)

[@stclairdavey]

@@CryptoGuide That should never be your method to winning over newbies. If you cannot make a good impression first time round don't expect newbies to stick around. There are others making better videos on the subject. Under the rules of supply and demand and the rules of first impressions count, you will lose out by expecting newbies to re watch your videos at half speed. That's my advice. Also check out the presentation skills of others in the tech field such as mobile phone. There are some great presenters on KZbin..

[@CryptoGuide]

No thanks, simply doing what others are doing isn't the goal. Check out my other content and that will become clear.

[@ssdtrain1]

how do u connect to computer to retrieve through crypto that??

[@CryptoGuide]

You can't, Ellipal locks you in to using their mobile app.