The Story of the Enigmatic and Mysterious Tube Drills of Ancient Egypt - UnchartedX full documentary

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@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
A short part 2, addendum to this video, with some additional thoughts is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoq7XoaHg9dlfas . Please remember to like and subscribe, and do please consider supporting UnchartedX via the value-for-value model at unchartedx.com/support !
@francischambless5919
@francischambless5919 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your take on the science of these findings. Asking questions never hurt, and showing the work to back the answers found is sorely needed these days. Keep searching!
@kirkjohnson9353
@kirkjohnson9353 5 жыл бұрын
Coke can? Is it too late to approach Coke for sponsorship? LOL (I didn't even see it)
@andrewgillis8572
@andrewgillis8572 5 жыл бұрын
Ben any thought upon Serapeum having been a 48 V power system - capable of a rather mighty amperage? Or my notion of the GP as a derrick or well-head including valves for a geothermal or similar power source - which (seen in sideview plan & underground) could be symboliized as an obelisk, with its pyramidion cap?
@valkenburgert
@valkenburgert 5 жыл бұрын
Love your video as usual! Nothing new to me here but it is one of the best summaries on the subject I've seen. Awesome! I'd like to give 1 piece of feedback though. On 52:20 you state "conclusively" twice. Followed by "this is my opinion". Those two don't go together well at all. On these subject I think it's really important to give great care on how you distinguish fact from theory or opinion. You do that very very well in general but I think any flaws there should be addressed. Proof is proof, theory is theory, opinion is opinion. I know that you in this case only weaken your own argument but that's besides the point. Again, don't take this the wrong way, it's no critique per se, just well-intended feedback, something to possibly stay focussed on. I care a great deal for this area of communication, since I then know how to interpret information. One of the reasons I value you, Bright Insight and many others. Keep 'm coming!
@Shamsithaca
@Shamsithaca 5 жыл бұрын
nice product placement!
@1967Twotone
@1967Twotone 2 жыл бұрын
As the owner of an exploration diamond drilling company, and as an experienced driller, I can tell you that that is indeed an impressive penetration rate in granite. Current modern penetration rates vary greatly depending on the material and in consideration that we must preserve the bit to drill 100s of meters in one hole and that the goal of the whole operation is to recover the core, the hole is just a by-product. But .005" per rev is a good average. It's impressive, that is, IF the the groove was made while the hole was being cut, or, on the way in, so to speak. One thing that has not been mentioned: The spiral groove could have been made by a diamond that had moved in it's mounting and cut the groove while the tool was being WITHDRAWN from the hole at a fairly constant rate while still turning. Much less impressive force would be required to achieve this because it is merely scratching a groove on a core that has already been cut. The same effect might be seen while withdrawing a tool that became bent or damaged during cutting process while still turning. I frequently see such impressive marks on core samples we recover that are caused by a similar effect (tool flex). It is very likely diamond that was used. Nothing else is hard enough to cut granite efficiently. Diamond is about 10 times harder than the next hardest thing. (Let's stick with known materials) Many of these holes and cores exhibit striations but it's unclear if they or spiral or not. I'll note that it's very common in modern diamond drilling to see non-spiral striations on both the core and the hole wall, due to vibration, tool flex, etc. I'll also mention that cutting rock generates a lot of cuttings (fine rock dust) and heat. These are both removed in modern drilling by a constant flow of water pumped down the inside of the drill rods to flow past the bit to cool it and carry the cuttings back up between the outside of the drill rods and the hole wall to the surface. This flow rate for the equipment we use must be about 40L per minute. If this flow is interrupted even briefly while drilling is in progress, the metal matrix holding the diamonds in the bit will melt and deform, destroying the bit and sometimes sticking the entire drill string in the hole. I find this all very fascinating and fully agree that there is a huge information vacuum regarding how all of this drilling and what is most definitely machining was achieved. Those in this field who don't understand rock hardness or what is required to achieve precision or are unable to even recognize it are missing the boat! I'll note that there are some very smart and experienced people in the diamond core bit industry that might be able to contribute to an explanation to this problem. Please continue this excellent work and thanks! (Edited June 7 '23 to clarify some points)
@rmsavig2204
@rmsavig2204 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The feed marks, even if made while retracting the tool, indicate a constant or near constant feed rate. Which is not going to happen by hand, only with a machine.
@garrettroberts7937
@garrettroberts7937 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. I do NOT own a drilling company but I have used many different drills and drilled 1in to 3 inch holes in concrete slabs and THIS was the first thing that came to mind when watching this video. “Could the spiral groove have been made on exit?” . However the uniformity of the spiral gives me pause to still think heavy machinery was involved in the process. I think we need more core samples to compare to, in order to make a definitive shut case for high technology.
@Trukise1
@Trukise1 2 жыл бұрын
I could not help myself to think that the spiral was made after the drilling. It would really simplify the explanation. How and why I don’t know. But it seems there are interesting ideas here.
@rmsavig2204
@rmsavig2204 2 жыл бұрын
@@Trukise1 the groove/ feed lines would simplify the explanation IF the ancient Egyptians used diamond drills.
@Trukise1
@Trukise1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rmsavig2204 Yes, I should have say to explain this hypothesis (the high-tech drilling).
@HardRockMiner
@HardRockMiner 2 жыл бұрын
As an underground miner who has run diamond drills and handled tons of core samples, I can honestly say that this is exactly what diamond drill core looks like. This was drilled with a high rotation and high feed pressure drill. You can see the penetration rate of the drill in the core.
@larswillems9886
@larswillems9886 2 жыл бұрын
makes me think that poeple drilled into them recently
@wirelessone2986
@wirelessone2986 Жыл бұрын
@@larswillems9886 Tube drill holes are found everywhere all over Egypt.They removed 50-80 tons of alabaster that lined the inside tunnels of the step pyramid...all of it full of tube drill holes.Some remainder was left above ground.For some crazy reason the Egyptian Antiquities department had it all buried in pits.Why I dont know,....the amount of tube drill holes is beyond counting.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
more like mining ⛏️ equipment then construction equipment, list history miners, you are in the oldest profession.
@robbsclassics
@robbsclassics Жыл бұрын
@@wirelessone2986 Create a scarcity?
@robertmarcello7705
@robertmarcello7705 Жыл бұрын
But aren’t these just modern day core samples ???
@CENTURION-xs6ky
@CENTURION-xs6ky 5 жыл бұрын
This kind of documentary is exactly the reason why I turned off my TV and started watching KZbin all those years ago, before KZbin forgot who made them what they are, before manchild videos aimed at impressionable children and plastic women with enormous ego's had to show us every activity within their tiny little lives. This is a very well argued and put together piece of work, a lot of hard work went in to researching and producing it. Simple facts and evidence speak for themselves and it's given with in a well spoken, concise manner, never needing to rude, or aggressive towards accademia just inviting and incredulous that the mainstream aren't more eager to try and discover evidence & knowledge about things that don't fit with their "theory". Anyway... I really enjoyed watching this, can't believe I haven't come across it before, but I'm subscribed now and looking for more, thank you. If anyone's interested here's the link to part 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoq7XoaHg9dlfas
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very kind words!
@CENTURION-xs6ky
@CENTURION-xs6ky 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX Thank you, love your content, great work putting it all together.
@jafar3326
@jafar3326 5 жыл бұрын
😥
@breakingames7772
@breakingames7772 5 жыл бұрын
You must mean the constant homosexual weirdos that do makup, sell makup, show kids how to put makeup on, and push materialistic values on kids.....every single trending video
@mstexasg6243
@mstexasg6243 4 жыл бұрын
CENTURION2501 same here
@m1cha3lh3nn3k3n
@m1cha3lh3nn3k3n Жыл бұрын
I have now watched hours of your videos and all I can say is that I cannot get enough. This is outstanding work. Keep it up. I am also considering getting my hands on Dunn's books all thanks to you. I just wish I had the means to go and check out all this stuff out myself in Petrie's museum in London and in the locations in Egypt. Truly admire your effort in this. Really do.
@bpd9660
@bpd9660 3 ай бұрын
All three of his books are landmark research and must reads
@erichamilton8952
@erichamilton8952 Ай бұрын
They are both dumbasses and full of shit.
@paulscrevane
@paulscrevane 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have enough space on here to list the reasons this channel is amazing, but you are so careful to be as objective as possible, never speaking poorly of the othersides research or researchers. It’s refreshing to watch a video on this topic with nothing but coherent information from start to finish.
@saax3816
@saax3816 2 жыл бұрын
This is a RACIST show because it implies that Africans cannot achieve arts and crafts. And YT should remove these videos. The white man is SYSTEMATICALLY DISCRIMINATING against people of color.
@racypies
@racypies 4 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend folks watch this in 4K in the living room TVs. The video quality is outstanding. 10/10 for the video and the channel.
@martinh6095
@martinh6095 5 жыл бұрын
I‘m into this topic for many years and by now I’m 100% sure that there were other civilizations before us. I read/watched/heard all of it. Aliens, flat earth, Bilderberger you name it. Most of it is very entertaining, some of it is disturbing and some obvious nut cases who should seek medical help. And then there are guys like you. The videos are pretty neat and came out of nowhere. Excellent content, nice quality and edits. Keep up the good work.
@afseeling
@afseeling Жыл бұрын
I just came across your videos on Egyptian machining. I am a 74-year-old geologist with undergraduate work in archeology. The whole controversy about who what and when reminds me all too well of the controversies that existed in geology prior to the discovery of upwelling magma and subsequent movement of continents in the seventies. As an exploration geologist I had to consider all known and potential explanations for observations on the ground. Many many times the reason why discoveries were made at the time, and not before, was because of the same situation you war running into with the academicians. People's reputations are not based on synthesis of all data but on pre-selected and pre-published propositions and explanations of insufficiently supported "facts." Unfortunately this is true across science that is produced by those whose renumeration is based on publications and fame and not by production of some valuable commodity, be it physical or intellectual. Good luck as you go forward with your questioning and investigations of these ancient artifacts. Continental drift was scorned for at least 60 years by those who "knew better." When the truth was revealed and accepted all manner of geologic mechanisms were finally understood, not because they weren't there before but because there was no context into which to examine them.
@Slipperygecko390
@Slipperygecko390 Жыл бұрын
These theorys existed in archeology in the past, at the same time as that controversy and have since been disproven.
@jarrodstevenson2608
@jarrodstevenson2608 Жыл бұрын
Massive cause for rewrite
@cleanpiecington2319
@cleanpiecington2319 Жыл бұрын
@@Slipperygecko390what theories are you referring to? Continental drift or the tube drills?
@cleanpiecington2319
@cleanpiecington2319 Жыл бұрын
@@Slipperygecko390you just seem to throw out irrelevant discord without any evidence. Are you just a simple minded hater or do you actually have a legit theory of how those tube drills were able to penetrate granite at such a high rate?
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 5 жыл бұрын
This was an absolutely superb, professional and compelling video. Outstanding.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, you set a high bar that I'm always trying to reach :)
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 5 жыл бұрын
UnchartedX you’re way past me. You’re a natural born presenter too. When you pass me in subscribers, I’ll be the first to congratulate you. This video is better than a anything I’ve ever made. Well done.
@krang07
@krang07 5 жыл бұрын
@@AncientArchitects Ben`s right. Your channel, as well as few others, are doing really great work into what is apparently a history that was never taught in school, ever. Thanks all you guys for looking at stuff and saying ` hey wait, this is not right. look closer...see?` science
@user-xv1gr1of8t
@user-xv1gr1of8t 3 жыл бұрын
For god's sake get a room 😂 ...only joking please don't block me haha im a fan
@user-xv1gr1of8t
@user-xv1gr1of8t 3 жыл бұрын
And yes this video was amazing - I gave my props on a previous message. I particularly enjoyed it where you described the documentaries conclusion/experiment as nonsense... Could feel the anger in your voice and rightly so
@timothysmullen8751
@timothysmullen8751 5 жыл бұрын
3D Scanners could be hired by the museum and are unbelievably precise. The point cloud data can be imported into CAD to generate 3D models that then anyone could study.
@dannybuilding1044
@dannybuilding1044 5 жыл бұрын
I want to 3d scan cities ..., art sculptures., old tools so any one would study them.but I don't have a 3d scanner :(
@dreamincubator8726
@dreamincubator8726 5 жыл бұрын
Photogrammetry can do this right now, from the existing photos using free software...
@thumpersquid
@thumpersquid 4 жыл бұрын
Scanning into a computer seems to be a no brainer. WTF hasn't this been done already?
@ocelotcheek
@ocelotcheek 4 жыл бұрын
Second Opinion yes until this is done and the “spiral” is then expanded out to show it to be continuous, as far as I’m concerned I’ve wasted over an hour of my day watching this. Also anyone with a book by Graham Hancock on display behind him is to be taken with a pinch of salt.
@ardbeg4mercy247
@ardbeg4mercy247 4 жыл бұрын
@@ocelotcheek I don't think I wasted an hour of my day on this, but you're spot on with the Graham Hancock thing. Remember this, though. It took academia over a decade to seriously consider the new discovery of the Chixculub gravitational anomaly. A good scientist once had on his corkboard "The more we learn, the more we realize how little we know."
@peterwilliamson4296
@peterwilliamson4296 4 жыл бұрын
A highly addictive presentation which I couldn't walk away from. The drilling quotes from Petrie are amazing in how they debunk the theories of the day which must have been scary.
@PaulHattle
@PaulHattle 2 жыл бұрын
Why do we just go back 12-15000 years? Earth, we are told, goes back 4 billion years. The system we all work under seems to hold us back. I don't know what the 'universe' is and neither does the 'experts.'
@cminton145
@cminton145 4 жыл бұрын
I especially appreciate the rigour displayed in this video in staying within the facts and allowing questions to stand, without speculation in seeking answers. The stakes involved demand such an approach if it is to stand with any credibility.
@Vercingetorix.Fantasia
@Vercingetorix.Fantasia 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with egyptology in general is that they already have the answers. Their work comes from making the evidence fit their narrative.
@portolan4454
@portolan4454 5 жыл бұрын
Since I am mentioned 49:50 in the video, some background to this core study may be of interest. I am a geologist (not an engineer) with a background hammering rocks (including a lot of granite) in the field and describing many cores cut with diamond bits. Visits to the Egyptian room in the British Museum caused me to wonder how pharaonic granite workers in the Nile Valley created the wide range of stone artifacts on display. They had worked on every scale from large columns to engraving heiroglyphics on quartzite, even harder than granite. That this was accomplished with primitive tools is quite staggering. I became aware of Petrie’s core and discussed it online with Chris Dunn who had a similar interest. When he was in London 2003 we arranged to meet at the Petrie Museum in UCL, where I had arranged privileged access to the core. We measured the core and wrapped cotton thread carefully around the apparently continuous grooves. (Surface roughness caused some difficulty with this but the grooves appeared to be of uniform depth). Chris Dunn agreed to publish the description but we lost touch after that. I am pleased that youtube has brought his careful investigations of this subject matter to a wider audience.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
Mr McClure, thank you so much for the comment - and for your role in arranging this investigation. I completely understand how you felt seeing those quartzite aritfacts and columns, it's exactly the same wondering 'how did a primitive culture do this' that originally started me down this path. As you can tell I found it all very fascinating and have tried to help to tell to the story to those who might not have read Chris Dunn's book. If ever I get the opportunity (and backing) I think there are several cores, including Petrie's, that could be examined with modern 3D laser scanning and metrology techniques.
@portolan4454
@portolan4454 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX I had some experience helping arrange a 3D printed replica of an early Christian bell from Inishkeel, Co Donegal. This is one of the prime exhibits in the British Museum and is very fragile. I watched their photographic expert Thomas Flynn notifications @ sketchfab.com mount it on an illuminated turntable and take photos from every angle. These were successfully turned into a 3D computer model using proprietary software, which emerged from BM’s 3D printer as an excellent replica. It would be of wide interest if similar models were made of Petrie’s Core 7.
@RZRMINERBDR
@RZRMINERBDR 5 жыл бұрын
Someone earlier asked the question "could the grooves have been made from the retraction of the drill bit from the hole?" This still would leave many unanswered questions but I was curious if you have considered this possibility?
@davegrenier1160
@davegrenier1160 4 жыл бұрын
I think the core is a prime candidate for laser scanning into a 3D model. Absolutely no harm could come to it, and a 3D model could be examined in tremendous detail in ways the original cannot. For instance, on the top of the model core, draw a line from the center of the top to the edge of the side of the core (in other words, demarcate a radius of the core's circular cross section). Then extend this line as a plane down through the height of the core. The outer edge will show the grooves as a series of notches. Now rotate the slice radially, sweeping around through the model on its vertical axis. If the grooves spiral around the core, the notches in the edge of the cross section will appear to march down (or up, depending on the direction of the sweep) the side of the core. If the grooves are horizontal, they will only appear to wobble.
@andreasvillen6990
@andreasvillen6990 4 жыл бұрын
@portolan I know photogrammetry as you described were used. I’ve been working as a surveyor engineer and the models I created were supposed to be accurate. I also think this should be done so a wider group of people could examine this. I want to get in touch with you. I have something I think would be of interest for us to discuss.
@aleksakocijasevic6613
@aleksakocijasevic6613 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, a genuinely open minded, detailed discussion about this topic. This is what I call a documentary. Great video!
@jameskelly9800
@jameskelly9800 Жыл бұрын
Some points that might be addressed elsewhere in the voluminous comments...I have several years of diamond "tube drill" experience as a construction worker. Cores sometimes break off during drilling. When drilling deeper we would break off cores with a whack of a hammer or use a chisel as a wedge. Longer/deeper cores break off easier thanks to their length. I'm sure a wooden wedge would snap a 2 or 3 inch core of a foot long or so...ditto using a copper or bronze wedge. Also, a medium is necessary for removing the drilling dust. Note the water hose in your short takes on the Hilti. Without the continued flow of water down through the tube drill cooling the bit and flushing away the debris the drill will either over heat and self destruct or bind up solidly in the hole. I have seen both. Cooling of the bit and flushing away of drill dust are essential. Had the Nova experimenters poured water and fine abrasive down through the center of the bit I'm sure they would have been more successful. This would explain the taper of the core as well. Consider that the spirals were made during the removal of a stuck bit being rotated while being pulled out. Otherwise they should be continuous along the core. No matter what the technology used to drill, primitive or advanced, the tools must exist in the physical record somewhere, we may just not understand what we're looking at, or what we're looking for.
@JohnnyWednesday
@JohnnyWednesday 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours that I've watched - I greatly appreciate the analytical approach you take and the willingness to question your own assumptions - it's very refreshing! a rational approach must be took.
@tomwolf7055
@tomwolf7055 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the most in-depth examination of the subject I have ever seen. The premise is examined in a clear, and complete manner so that the conclusion drawn is obvious. There is no other explanation that makes sense. I believe within our lifetime the chronology of our existence on this planet will be revised. It is because of the work of UnchartedX and others that are willing to risk their careers by going against established beliefs that this will be accomplished. I am an UnchartedX supporter because this work is important and, in my small way, I want to see that it continues.
@johnhough4445
@johnhough4445 Жыл бұрын
It's a nice thought, but genuinely open minds in academia are few and far between. (For obvious reasons; anyone rattling the cages and potentially removing income will not be rapt if new discoveries invalidate their investments in costly diplomas and degrees.)
@Bootyspaghetti
@Bootyspaghetti Жыл бұрын
The most in depth examination of holes drilled in rocks and they still have no idea that they’re not called tube drills. They’re called core hole drills. While i love the video it’s hard to believe when they don’t even know the correct name for the drill bit that made the holes
@chuckleezodiac24
@chuckleezodiac24 Жыл бұрын
Have you examined any other explanations? There are multitudes of books and articles written by archaeologists which explain the various techniques, methods and tools used by ancient builders -- without resorting to Atlantean devices and telekinesis. Scientists Against Myth video -- Making Egyptian Drill Holes. World of Antiquity video - Historian Reacts to Evidence for Ancient High Technology in Egypt (3.5 hrs). If you've seen those and reject their conclusions, that's cool. At least you've considered alternative viewpoints.
@chuckleezodiac24
@chuckleezodiac24 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhough4445 yeah, those dogmatic gatekeepers desperately clinging to their $70K per year jobs in academia are morons. They could have a net worth of $14 million like Graham Hancock -- if they would start writing books about Atlantis. And there is zero income to be made on YT by "researchers" peddling Ancient Mysteries....
@damienscanlon6965
@damienscanlon6965 Жыл бұрын
Love this comment. Cheers. I look forward to finding out more about all this incredible stuff.
@Milan91Za
@Milan91Za 5 жыл бұрын
Finally something worth of my coffee time. Thanks UnchartedX. Keep it up man!
@hhhAmbientElectronic
@hhhAmbientElectronic Жыл бұрын
Your videos certainly justify my own belief that these Egyptian structures (and so many others around the world, like the dolmas, Stone Henge, etc.) were made using technology far more advanced than anything that is suggested by tools known to be used during the bronze age. What that technology is, however, does indeed remain a mystery and that holds my imagination firmly. I hope you continue making this content, as I find it both extremely valuable and thoroughly entertaining.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX Жыл бұрын
Thank you Hollan!
@Salmon_Rush_Die
@Salmon_Rush_Die 5 жыл бұрын
LOL the drill core sat in a museum for 100 years and no one thought to trace the grooves.
@imnotabotrlyimnot
@imnotabotrlyimnot 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what the big fuss was between the two camps the whole time he was going over the situation. No one thought to follow the lines? It's not rocket science, but it is what an establishment entity would do when they don't want the public to know something.
@foxtrotalphaone
@foxtrotalphaone 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrWizardofozzz What you're thinking of is the limestone blocks that make up the surface layer of the pyramids, which were shown to have been casted. What the video is about, and what is being discussed by people in the comments, is the method of drilling into granite stone.
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 5 жыл бұрын
@@garychap8384 : you didnt watch the video thoroughly because the academics were wrong, the grooves are not at right angles to the axis. The sides taper and so the core is conical. The grooves were directly observed by Dunn, meticulously measured and it is known, they spiral.
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrWizardofozzz : "No, what I'm saying . . " and when was this conversation supposed to have occured between us? I never addressed you nor took issue with whatever youre disputing elsewhere. So I dont know what "No . ." to me has to do with. The only relevant part of this directed to me is how the conicality of core #7 came about. It cant be due to wet concretion being worked, as the piece was broken off, not scooped out. The wiggle extraction wont explain the even depth of grooves top to bottom Petrie mentions. So yes no.
@SergeyPRKL
@SergeyPRKL 5 жыл бұрын
@@garychap8384 Photographic evidence isn't scientifically sound. Petrie did show uss measurements that proofs it.
@jaimegenesis60
@jaimegenesis60 5 жыл бұрын
Best documentary I have ever seen regarding the case for the civilization that was wiped out from this planet most probably much more than 12000 years ago. Thanks a lot and congratulations!
@billd.iniowa2263
@billd.iniowa2263 4 жыл бұрын
I am so thankful to have finally found a zero hype, non-sensationalistic channel that is dealing with the subject of predeluvian technology. Your matter-of-fact presentation is very refreshing! I was a machinist and am familiar with feed rates, tool load, tool spring, etc... To be honest tho, I have to point out that a tool can be removed from a cut much faster than when it is actually cutting. If you are working on an engine lathe and reach the end of a cut (toward the head stock), it is easy to move the tool to the tail stock with a few turns of the longitudinal feed wheel. This leaves a groove in the material (the result of tool spring being lessened) that has a very rapid twist. Such as 5 revolutions in 3 feet of travel. I'm just mentioning this as it crossed my mind when that rapid of a feed rate was presented. I'm subscribing to your channel, cant wait to see more. Thankyou.
@jonathanekat3852
@jonathanekat3852 4 жыл бұрын
check out ancient architects.
@ToBeSchooled
@ToBeSchooled 4 жыл бұрын
They have a name. Atlantis. Atlanteans.
@bucknaked9095
@bucknaked9095 4 жыл бұрын
When they show the spirals thru the use of the thread being wrapped around the core, there is some unevenness on the spacing. As a retired machinist, I agree with your thoughts of the grooves being created on the exit of the ‘tool bit”. An automated feed would have a consistent spiral.
@speedar2135
@speedar2135 4 жыл бұрын
well done what outstanding and illuminating analysis
@nickfrost9771
@nickfrost9771 4 жыл бұрын
Highjack the black knight satalite. Hack into its mainframe and download all of the earths history it has been monitoring and storing for the past 300 million years. If you don't soon, I will 😉😉😉...
@gideonvos5967
@gideonvos5967 Жыл бұрын
Finally, high quality footage of Egypt
@jimnaz5267
@jimnaz5267 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on an excellent video. your thoughtful exposition of the various points of view is very well done. you are articulate, and your voice carries a scientific, unbiaised tone throughout.
@waynerainey2606
@waynerainey2606 5 жыл бұрын
I was a concrete cutter for over 10 years (Although more supervisory for about half) But My Point, concrete cures no where near as hard as granite or some of the river stones I would sometimes see in the cores I removed. And I could tell when they were present, they would slow the drill down almost as much as rebar. The core drills were coated with industrial diamond and would cut through most anything given a bit of lubrication and cooling. The Problem is the Diamond core drills left everything they cut through very smooth, the tool marks would have to be viewed with a microscope to see any individual line or striations. The diamond core drills as good as they were could not hog-out material fast enough to leave a single spiral tool mark that indicated that these cores were created with tools that removed around 3/10" per rotation whereas the would make 20ish revolutions of the diamond drill to do that in much softer concrete. Don't mean to carry on, but I just thought I would ad what I know and with what the 'experts' tell us about dynastic Egypt ..... They couldn't have done it with their tool set! Ben, Your work is good, very through and knowledgeable... and entertaining. well done! P.S. I hope that the true nature of what Zahi Hawass has done to hurt, hinder, hide, and even destroy the true history of the Giza Plateau - and human history will be fully known for posterity. He is definitely not the self-styled "Egyptian Indiana Jones" he makes himself out to be.
@pieteruys2032
@pieteruys2032 5 жыл бұрын
I dont trust that Hawass
@del_boy_trotter
@del_boy_trotter 5 жыл бұрын
@@lindabuck2777 As someone who has had to work with Hawass for almost 23 years, I can say without fear of contradiction, that ass has held back Egyptology *_at least 50 years!_* Were it not for him, *_electricity would be recognised as having been a motive power, as would the usage of varying power tools, and many other things, in Ancient Egypt and elsewhere!_* When I argued with the man for almost an hour, I found out PDQ I had become persona non grata within the community! He revoked *_all my privileges and access etc. simply for telling him to "Use the evidence supplied by your eyes!" - I now, cannot work on anything, anywhere, in Egypt!_* My career came to a crashing halt! You also, would not believe a) How vindictive he can be, and b) How totally dumb & useless he is as the head of antiquites! The man is a disgrace, and my book will bury him and his utter bullshit!!
@OMGAnotherday
@OMGAnotherday 5 жыл бұрын
Wayne Rainey - Great to read your modern day factual experience. Don’t underestimate your contribution. The truth will out, it always does. ✌️✊🏼
@OMGAnotherday
@OMGAnotherday 5 жыл бұрын
Thegoodtom 1 - I don’t know much about sound as a learned subject, but I do know that it has force, experienced it many times in just ordinary daily life. We as humans quite often look in the wrong place for answers.
@mattmanix5104
@mattmanix5104 5 жыл бұрын
I supervise rock core drilling, currently drilling Quartzite in South Wales, UK, the scoring on the material beng drilled is directly related to the rotation speed and force applied to the bit. light pressure and high speed leave marks so small that the material becomes essentially polished (I have 2 chuncks of polished quartzite on my desk at home that I pulled from a core box). Essentially if you had a corer or tube drill that was loaded up with weight and turned by say men walking round in a circle, you would see the clearly defined helical groves cut into the material. this rotation method would also explain why the cuts in the quartz was no less deep as that in the mica as the turning force applied by say 4 humans would be immense. the drill would probably rely just as much on the force pushing it down as the rotation speed but would still require a material like diamond or at the very least steal,
@TLVCocktailReviews
@TLVCocktailReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Bro your videos are so captivating! The amount of work and research that goes into each of your productions is impressive, keep it up!!!
@jananzsky
@jananzsky 5 жыл бұрын
Plus his on the money wordage is excellent.
@spankythelovemonkey2305
@spankythelovemonkey2305 4 жыл бұрын
Jana Dixon l
4 жыл бұрын
its dude not bro
@duceanima2069
@duceanima2069 4 жыл бұрын
@@walterhoward5686 I have a feeling that it's a waste of time replying to you...
@walterhoward5686
@walterhoward5686 4 жыл бұрын
@@duceanima2069 That's a defeatist attitude, the exchange of ideas is how Humanity grows and learns and maybe even sparks the rare and elusive original idea !! Maybe your right, Its not worth it .
@christo6068
@christo6068 8 ай бұрын
As a smoker I am really impressed
@salamanca1954
@salamanca1954 4 жыл бұрын
As the person who did the first edit of Dunn's "Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt," I can say without reservation that you are in the right of it.
@mrJety89
@mrJety89 4 жыл бұрын
maybe the stones were chemically softened? Look up the work on geopolymers by the Geopolymer institute
@66holt
@66holt 5 жыл бұрын
i have worked with stone in construction for over 30yrs , , mostly with granite , paving the streets of sydney and laying granite kerbs , most 300x300x900 , , and need to cut that stone , , i know for a fact the markings of core drilling , , and in granite you AT LEAST need high revs and a diamond bit and water , have worked with alltypes of stone for yrs , and for someone to say they use copper chisels to shape granite , , impossible , , try it on your granite bench top , try to chisel your name , lol :), look up archibold fountain hyde park sydney , , i laid that red granite surround , and all granite pathways surrounding it :) , i know stone
@jimofaotearoa3636
@jimofaotearoa3636 5 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, A Kiwi here.... as a New Zealander let me just say i was blown away with Sydneys stonework when i first visited. An amazing city built from its own local stone. Its everywhere and beautiful. Thanks 66holt. I know Hyde Park as well. I use it as my landmark to know where i am when in the central city. I can totally believe you know stonework as i have seen your work and i'm not even Australian.
@Republic3D
@Republic3D 5 жыл бұрын
@blkcandywarez Even if they substituted high RPM with high WOB - they would need a good drill bit right? In your opinion, what kind of drill bit material did they use?
@66holt
@66holt 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimofaotearoa3636 chur bo , work with many maori's , tu meke take care , :) i have even watched "boy" lol
@66holt
@66holt 5 жыл бұрын
@John & Jane Smith , certainly intriguing :)
@66holt
@66holt 5 жыл бұрын
@blkcandywarez , did you just cut and paste from some weird site , , that is a gemstone ,, have you worked with stone ??????? i cut granite , tracyte , bluestone , sandstone and various grades of concrete from 28mpa to 40 mpa on a weekly basis , , dude , , ancient stone work SHOWS signs of coredrilling , , , have you even done any coredrilling into granite , , I HAVE
@dannyseay4409
@dannyseay4409 4 жыл бұрын
As a concrete cutter I do a lot of core drilling and this has always fascinated me. Even with today's technology drilling all these would be pretty difficult, solid granite is much harder than any concrete and when I run into granite wile drilling or cutting the blade or bit starts acting as if you are cutting steel. Granite is very hard indeed
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustSomeGoy huh?
@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo
@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but we did bore holes and cut it right up until the Electric drill was invented, when i started work we used star chisels, it was turned as you hit it with an hammer and very effective.
@pinballrobbie
@pinballrobbie 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen sonic drilling on you tube? the channel " Ancient architects " has proposed tube drills made from Copper tube with a large tuning fork attached might drill through granite . The resonance is matched to the Granites with water washing away the dust. An electronic version of this is in industrial used nowadays. Maybe the rings in the hole correspond to the striking of the Tuning fork.
@hibernative
@hibernative 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustSomeGoy To be honest, I gave that video a fair shot, and it was completely ridiculous and doesn't deserve being posted anywhere close to this video.
@bigimskiweisenheimer8325
@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 4 жыл бұрын
Eyes and ears cannot be relied on. They can deceive you.
@dopeymark
@dopeymark 2 жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this information for several years. Thank you.
@satanshantverkare
@satanshantverkare 5 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for videos like these forever! No bullshit, just common sense, real objectivity and outstanding research. Thank you!
@satanshantverkare
@satanshantverkare 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmsash Well, a couple of things went really wrong in this russian video and i think you should be able to spot them yourself. And by the way, the shit spewing out of his mouth between 9,25-11,40 is exactly what we dont need in this debate. Watch both videos again and good luck!
@SimonEkendahl
@SimonEkendahl 5 жыл бұрын
Whatis Yourname The dude’s talking about the copper tube becoming sharper when drilling as if it’s a good thing...
@satanshantverkare
@satanshantverkare 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmsash I know you dont care. If you did,we would not have this discussion. Nobody is denying that you can cut and drill hard stone with copper. The problem here is speed,accuracy and scale. Think again.
@ACTSRevolution
@ACTSRevolution 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they MELTED they granite with super ore from the Shinkolobwe mine, then FINISH cut the melted hole with bronze/diamond tooling! All the Peruvian precision megaliths prove the stone shaping was subjected to melting as part of the carving. Egyptian bored holes need more than ANYTHING else, to be tested for the same extreme residual magnetization left over from a radioactive melting!!!
@satanshantverkare
@satanshantverkare 5 жыл бұрын
@@ACTSRevolution Who knows. There are a lot of theories needed to be tested.Properly tested by objectively thinking people without scientific or religious dogma. Without pride,big egos and whatknot. The only thing important is the truth! We will probably never know exactly what happened or how we did it back then but we can get alot closer than the current paradigm of pseudoscietifically proven theories.
@TheDPStL
@TheDPStL 4 жыл бұрын
A wise man will have a mind that is open to everything but attached to nothing.
@9-0-55
@9-0-55 4 жыл бұрын
Adhd
@seanhardy3072
@seanhardy3072 3 жыл бұрын
@Paul Astle english /all languages are confusion. the more you read, the dumber you get. build your house in stone, or go underground, JUST TO BE SURE. I mean planet of the apes shit . stupid people believe one man can understand anything. obviously you need religion and government to keep the peace and rebuild w/o chaos. there's descriptions of nuclear weapons in ALL RELIGION. no aliens, just previous humans. white people came from living underground, MAYBE. we also have humanlike robots/sex dolls. so we could be robots. robots will outlive us "neurolink" elon musk check it out.all the billionaires have or fund space programs. bezos wants to build huge space stations.. musk is going to mars/ he needs all the gas left on earth to get there, hence electric cars. global warming is FACT REGARDLESS OF HUMAN CONTRIBUTION. I learned in highschool we still are technically coming out of an ice age. besides most people ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY LEARNED IN SCHOOL . YOU THINK ANYONE BUT THE PEOPLE WORKING TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS HAS ACCESS TO THE TRUTH, THEN YOUR A FOOL
@xrxs1020
@xrxs1020 3 жыл бұрын
@@_KingPin_-jm4st Somewhere between saying none of these things could have happened, and believing every claim, is a middle ground of openness balanced with requirements of proof. I like your idea of making educated guesses, and I'd encourage everyone to do that. What bugs me is people closing off their mind and telling everyone about it. It spoils the fun of speculating. I think they do it because they're afraid to entertain any idea beyond their current reality. Best.
@xrxs1020
@xrxs1020 3 жыл бұрын
"Imagine a world where everyone was open, what a free world that would be." I'm imagining ;-)
@confuseussay625
@confuseussay625 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ballstreetuk It couldn't happen because there are always people who are greedy Either for riches or power or both. The swamp is our latest example
@rockajiqta1
@rockajiqta1 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I have been following you for the last 2-3 years. THIS! This is one of the best documentary works I have seen and I have seen a lot. Respect!
@jmxxx123
@jmxxx123 10 ай бұрын
One of the BEST presentation on the subject of Giza tube drill. Excellent research. Well Done
@kevinhickey2617
@kevinhickey2617 5 жыл бұрын
You just proved it Ben. Wonderful video. Brilliantly orchestrated deconstruction of the mainstreams avoidance to this topic. I read “Giza the truth” and I found that they spent most of the time criticizing and dismissing the alternative view rather than questioning the orthodox opinion. It does seem like there has been an attempt to cover up Petrie’s observations. Well done Chris Dunn and well done Ben for delivering such an informative, eloquent and conclusive answer to the critics. 👍
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin!
@6point8esspcee68
@6point8esspcee68 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, dude.....brilliant video! I remember being so excited to watch that NOVA episode. I also remember how absolutely bummed I was afterward. Granted, it was a commendable attempt initially, but what they ended up proving was how ridiculous the mainstream theory is. Two days to cut 4 cm.......? How much copper would have been necessary to cut just a handfull of granite blocks much less the millions upon millions of tons if stone for a single pyramid. You would think the sands around Giza would contain so much microscopic copper as to turn the whole plateau a lovely shade of green.
@superstitiouspre-literatep9730
@superstitiouspre-literatep9730 5 жыл бұрын
Love this observation, but keep in mind not all of the blocks that create the pyramids are granite blocks. Much of it is limestone, but there are significant portions of granite, diorite and other stones. Still, what granite is there would have required a load of copper.
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 5 жыл бұрын
Find some low point where the slush might collect and test it. You'll find the material they used, it will be there somewhere.
@6point8esspcee68
@6point8esspcee68 5 жыл бұрын
@@superstitiouspre-literatep9730 Of course, the vast majority of material used was limestone. And although cutting limestone with copper....or for that matter bronze, is a much easier task than the harder igneous rock, the wear on the tools must have been an absolute pain in the ass for the masons. Ive been in the construction trades my entire life and can tell you, from experience, that even the steel tools I used to cut concrete, brick and ceramic tile wear out at an alarming rate.
@6point8esspcee68
@6point8esspcee68 5 жыл бұрын
@@d.t.4523 You are right. I'd be fascinated to find an answer to that question. I wish I could hop on a plane and start doing some experimental archeology there. Take some samples just to test the theory.
@d.t.4523
@d.t.4523 5 жыл бұрын
@@6point8esspcee68 Go for it! The local guards will have a say in it, so take an ergonomic trowel if you want to try it. Someone may have already done the work without any public report. Watch a video on here called "Tritium of Egypt". It's different, but technically accurate. Start a Go Fund Me, and see how it goes. Keep us posted. :-)
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 5 жыл бұрын
One thing that seems logical is that the great pyramid demonstrates a deep comprehension of mechanics, geometry and even higher maths possibly. The stone age could not be anywhere near that era.
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 5 жыл бұрын
Another way to show the spiral is to trace the groove with a stylus. As the core is rolled the stylus will move down the core, top to bottom. Horizontal grooves will not advance the stylus.
@Fuzzmo147
@Fuzzmo147 5 жыл бұрын
It was mankind at the pinnacle of knowledge........BEFORE the stone age
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fuzzmo147 : that makes more sense than sudden civilization.
@michaelhart7569
@michaelhart7569 Жыл бұрын
The more I think about it, the more frequently I keep re-watching these videos. If the the tube core #7 grooves were truly parallel then, by the establishment narrative, the distance of separation between the grooves might be expected to be irregular or random. But the grooves are regular and evenly separated, as would be expected from Petrie's description. That's another reason to trust Petrie's observations.
@TurnFullCircle
@TurnFullCircle 5 жыл бұрын
Stunning video and research!......great work....thank you !......superb!
@methylmike
@methylmike 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody get this dude a medal. And a book deal!!
@GrimDrive
@GrimDrive 4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen you before, but man, this video was put together extremely well. Thank you for the work you put in to bring attention to something in a really convincing way. Especially after hearing how long you spent on making it. I will be sending people here when I can't be bothered trying to explain this.
@trevorgough2286
@trevorgough2286 2 жыл бұрын
I tried explaining this stuff to my son,he thinks I'm nuts..says the school version must be right because its in all the books." We just haven't found the tools yet " He was recently asked by his superior officer if he would like to move on to be a detective.......im sad at his lack of curiosity.
@jakebarnes3054
@jakebarnes3054 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorgough2286 some people fear what is unknown to them, and what they may find if they begin a journey to explore said unknown
@donaldsankey5046
@donaldsankey5046 Ай бұрын
Truly a mystery that can only be solved through honest, truthful observations, information and constantly publish for all to review and not just the myopicly destructive view of mainstream institutions
@crcottre
@crcottre 5 жыл бұрын
Spiral grooves would require a CONSTANT rotation in one direction. The back and forth rotation demonstrated in the PBS exercise could not create the observed spiral. Like making threads in a nut or on a bolt, the feed must be constant and the rotation even. Abom79, This Old Tony, Keith Rucker and many other KZbinrs demonstrate this well in metal machining. Also consider that, as with a drill bit, the tool would have to allow for evacuation of the "chips" (waste material). The drill bit (better analog is a tap for threading) must have the flutes spiraling up the tool to move these spoils and make room for the tool. Hard to imagine a fluted core drill. Thus the width of the groove between the core and the wall of the hole must accommodate the tool and the removed material. This might explain the slightly conical shape. Great video! I can't wait for the next one!
@redwoodcoast
@redwoodcoast 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the insightful technical detail. It won't explain the tapering though, but I'm writing something that will. Hope to finish it soon. will post at sciencetheory.wordpress.com
@peterrose5373
@peterrose5373 5 жыл бұрын
Constant rotation and a groove cut in a single pass is only one of the ways to cut a spiral groove. You can also do it with a series of short movements, as long as there's some sort of guide, which is not totally inconceivable if you're trying to do something similar to a hammer drill. Also, if they were using some technique that produces spiral grooves by it's nature, how many other cores are showing spiral grooves? Is this one core special? If so, why? How does the mechanics change if this is an aberrant piece, and the groove was created while removing or re-inserting the drill?
@kerageous1502
@kerageous1502 5 жыл бұрын
The only way to evacuate the waste would be an air compression hose . No person could provide that power through natural lungs- elephants? No. Could it be evacuated by water? Still need compression power which seems an endeavor. What nobody really seems to speculate on is what is the real purpose of some of these random drill holes that at are just all over without a structural meaning.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch 4 жыл бұрын
​@@redwoodcoast Yeah, the waste material issue is my sticking point with all the theories (can't spell the H word). A single point tool at a feed rate of 0.1" per revolution isn't producing a fine powder that can be flushed out through such narrow confines between the tool and walls at such depths as the core is in length. Same with an ultrasonic bit that small and powerful where any waste would hamper further cutting. That leaves only two options in my teeny mind to comprehend and both stipulate that a rigid structural tube is not used at all. One is a rotating water or slurry jet which would allow for evacuation of the material and maybe produce a spiral groove as collateral damage. However, they say that embedded softer material was not effected in the way we'd expect. The other is a rotating laser or beam that vaporized the waste as it progressed. The variations in the groove could be due to material density at the point of ignition or localized interference to the beam like reflection from evacuating gases and such. Both are outside the realm of our ability let alone copper and bronze wielding ancestors. More likely than not there was an advanced group that died off or phoned the Intergalactic Auto Club and got a ride home. Random holes could merely be test and calibration runs or use of a tool the wrong size (not that any of us have ever made a dozen 1/4" holes to hack out a 2" cavity) because the one you needed was in the charger or borrowed by Ixtl who hadn't returned it, yet. Maybe items overlooked and left behind were used by whoever found them to make a few things or bore random holes in things (because that's what people do) until they stopped working or did some real damage and the parents or village elders wrestled them away and had them destroyed as too dangerous for the likes of themselves or their enemies.
@nickfrost9771
@nickfrost9771 4 жыл бұрын
Highjack the black knight satalite. Hack into its mainframe and download all of the earths history it has been monitoring and storing for the past 300 million years. If you don't soon, I will 😉😉😉...
@GiveMeFive-GMF
@GiveMeFive-GMF 4 жыл бұрын
The Egyptians have a well-established record of re-writing their history; the Pharaohs did it all the time! Also, the Egyptians themselves practically admit this, and speak of inheriting their civilisation from those who came before. Its obvious as to why they would claim the superior work of their forebears as their own. It also explains why the Egyptian works get worse over time not better and why there is no clear record as to how the dynastic Egyptians actually constructed these megaliths and artifacts. Also, the claim of institutional archeology that prior to 5-6000 years ago we were simply stick-wielding, hunter-gatherers who suddenly, seemingly overnight, got the inspiration and knowledge to be able to build the great megaliths we see all over the world like the Pyramids, is laughably absurd!
@DeuceGenius
@DeuceGenius 4 жыл бұрын
theres possibilities of civilizations older that science knows for sure. science will figure it out
@johnnydtw3509
@johnnydtw3509 4 жыл бұрын
Pyramid building and cities originally used mud brick so most eroded with time but we had close to 20k years or engineering before they began using stone to build, of course with longevity in mind... So much of the old mud brick infrastructure of Egypt had eroded by the time of Rome that basically the whole world knew they had to build in metal or stone if they wanted it to last
@sheltoncurtis825
@sheltoncurtis825 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnydtw3509 the people who constructed the pyramids they knew exactly what they were doing they had all the tools that we've reverse-engineered and then some, that some we still have hidden away because we cannot reverse engineer them,so you will never hear about it; Captain Kirk talked about (warp speed),warp speed is telephone line speed people in the past,vehicles ran off of telephone wave; Electric magnetic waves you know nothing about history no disrespect,I'm 59 been studying it for over 40 years everything you know is a lie when it comes to history cuz they taught you to look in the wrong places an believe in lies instead of what the truth is, the truth is in your copying machine and the ink and paper used with this instrument PS. Man is the paper that ink has been imprinted on,and as you know , as copies are made the ink fades, add 3 to 4 hundred thousand years to the ink color fade run clear ,with fading also the quality of each copy fades, because the cartridge cannot be refilled,( man's color ; melanin fades),that's why when you go to court the court wants only original documents the one made with your signature / ink pen,when you signed it; everything else is a copy/forgery, get to know who and what you are and why you were created,so you can help preserve good an stop working to destroy good which destroys us all ;"out"
@mancamiatipoola
@mancamiatipoola 4 жыл бұрын
Well, mainstream quackademia got one thing right at least, there were tribal hunter-gatherer societies in those days, just like there are a few isolated ones in our current civ cycle. But that is the only thing they got right. The dynastic egyptians did what any leader would to strengthen his position: take credit for someone else's achievement and ride the wave of success. The reason why their works diminished in quality drastically over time is simply that the advanced tools of their ancestors broke down and they had no idea how to fix them or reverse engineer them. There is also that cartoush that indicates there have been pharaos in the old kingdoms going back 30000 years (just by calculating each reign in modern average human lifespans). The evidence is on the proverbial WALL.
@sheltoncurtis825
@sheltoncurtis825 4 жыл бұрын
@@mancamiatipoola Hunter gatherers in the beginning; how absurd , look into it now that we have YT,(Noah's Ark ),the one found in the Turkey , 3,600 ft. Elv. mountains,in the early fifties look at the documentaries , see what they say the boat was built of , and you will stop regurgitating ignorance; you were taught, when you and I were a child, all lies you'll find out when (Steel came into play);when "rivets" came into play on "Noah's Ark" how (old) was the "Ark"; man is left to his own devices , his own beliefs ;what trouble we" feeble people" are in; we're left to destroy each other; as history State, not by water but by fire, it's going to be a lot of 🔥; it's heating up with everyone on this Earth,All is feeling it rich and pour;an no one can hide...
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 4 жыл бұрын
Most interesting is how the Sumerians achieved so many advances in a short period of time (compared to Akkadians who ended up taking over). This is the same as the Old Kingdom being so much more advanced in stone working than Middle Kingdom. Seems the movie Idiocracy is a social commentary that explains what happened 6000 years ago ... and we see it happening today. I suspect it is because those who took over prioritized gaining power in society over truth and reality. The political savvy know “reality matters only so far as it affects perception”. Thus, leadership gravitates from ability to perform towards office politics loyalty. These two values clash. I believe it was an ancient Chinese story where the king’s son engaged in debate with the court’s experts and did well ... his father was highly disturbed and explained to his son the danger ... You will eventually end up looking stupid/incompetent when debating with the most brilliant of the land and lose face, and thereby lose power. Engineers are as a group chumps in office politics. In fact, engineers get bypassed by the political animals who ascend to leadership positions. Look at companies like Boeing whose leadership has destroyed the company’s technology leadership who moved headquarters to Chicago to deliberately distance themselves from the concerns of the engineers & workers focused on success of the products. Look at Universities nowadays where social politics pushes out the most technically competent applicants for positions.
@djosearth3618
@djosearth3618 4 жыл бұрын
Incredibly insightful. I see also things as you've described them..
@sylentxtinction2097
@sylentxtinction2097 4 жыл бұрын
A worthy note, indeed. The passing of ages is a wonderous thing. The impairment lies in our ability (or lack thereof) to ascertain exactly where upon the Bell curve of development our particular generation exists. As technology progresses, we first begin forwarding it through the need for longevity. At its apex, longevity yields to development for the sake of developing. I am a firm believer, this is not the first of human cycles, nor will it be our last. I also believe in genetic degradation... meaning the plot and progress of our cycle is more drawn out, with digressive potential than each of those before us. The failure of this cycle, I believe lies in the fascination with electricity and metallurgy. We capitalized so quickly in our ability to amalgamate ores and alleviate the key vulnerabilities of survival with electricity, that we have lost value for longevity in our weakness. For all our supposed progress, we have faltered our own foundations. When waves of probability in catastrophe wash through our existence, not a single house of "modern man" will exist to hint the discovery of our existence... yet the imprints of our most primitive ancestors will remain in the caves.
@standarsh2186
@standarsh2186 4 жыл бұрын
The ancient Egyptians, Sumerian’s where a race called Andites. Their name was also called Aryan. They where much more genetically endowed than today’s peoples, before them there where Adamites and Nodites that where much more genetically advanced than even the Andites.
@sylentxtinction2097
@sylentxtinction2097 4 жыл бұрын
@James Registe - the reference was less in terms of the more common and precise use in a 1994 social science publication... but rather a thoery, if one were to plot the progress of known human technological progress. It does not happen on a linear scale, and is not bound to merely one path of technological progression (as evidenced by the recent collapse of Moore's law). If bell curve theory is applied, one might could graph all of the various technological and natural adaptations of a given species (in this case, humans), one might see what is known as a bell curve. However, when generations are linked, this actually becomes a compounding acceleration, where progress breeds progress. As is the natural tendency of man... when the rate of progress/development of one technology is superceded by another, support for the antiquated falters... but the species continues to progress. I won't bother giving examples, as again, this is a theory, and progress is difficult to define. Also, as we have shown many times before... one particular path of technology may be revived with the discoveries of another. Where the bell curve really comes into play, is that no one individual or generation is capable of defining their particular position upon the lineage of a species... just as we find the Universe is still not only accelerating in its expansion, but at an accelerating rate. While it is obvious, our technological developments/discoveries are occurring and being implanted at an accelerating rate, it is theoretically impossible to plot our particular position within the grand scale. Once a species gains the capacity to pass along data from one generation to the next beyond the capacity of individual personal experience and memory... the implications are bound only by our capacity and rate of implementation. In short, man has nearly achieved the point of advancement, where our terminus will be dictated either by insurmountable cataclysm, lack of available resources, or by our own design (likely, self-replicating intelligence). At such point... a visit to the line of the progressives to our more terrestrial divergent cousins, may well paint the imagery of angels in cave walls, to honor our creator. Life is, by far, the most interesting and incomprehensible of outcomes... having somehow come into existence by means of little more than radiation, matter, gas, time, and the miracle of change. If that isn't sufficient to explain every name of every God... lesser and supreme.... I don't know what is.
@ftaghnify
@ftaghnify 3 жыл бұрын
~12,800 YA a cosmic event (comet or CME) basically turned Canada's 2 mile thick ice sheet to slurpee. Secondary impacts hit much of North America (at least) with the power of all nukes we know of. Sea level rose (up, not in) 400 feet. Any (and I think there was one) civilization soon had no port cities. Any cities that lived through the cataclysm, that depended on trade with or via ports, collapsed. Another event at ~11,600 YA seems to have been on the same order. A hypothesis is that survivors of that civilization attempted to reboot, by civilizing savages (our ancestors). Rapidly developing civilizations were being indoctrinated, not evolving organically. View videos w/ Randall Carlson, Graham Hancock, Dr. Robert Schoch, John Anthony West, ...
@Neoeclectic
@Neoeclectic Жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever tested the dust material from inside the core holes to see if materials, other than granite or limestone, can be detected?
@christo6068
@christo6068 8 ай бұрын
I think they already did after all those years
@Elevel3
@Elevel3 5 жыл бұрын
That PBS special was a joke. They couldn't even make a scaled version of the pyramid with casing stones accurately. I was a kid when i saw it, and remember feeling completely awkward while watching the two scientists have an ego battle over their views without listening to the other. Both in a fixed way of being. Today we seem to be only worse as a society. The best way to avoid contributing, i think, is to see it in ourselves first, regardless of how factual we think we are. There's always another view, and different ways of interpreting data. You dont make you're own 'theories' overshadow proving the baseline need for us to unanimously agree that a course correction in our understanding of history is needed before we can consider what story should go in its place. Please keep doing that. :) @UnchartedX, your work is fantastic. I want to support you and perhaps beyond throwing money. Im in the creative design world, and love to travel. Is there a way to connect with you offline?
@adamrawn2063
@adamrawn2063 5 жыл бұрын
yep, I loved the little calculation they did on how long it took to build the pyra, then the dude just grins and hopes no one is extrapolating that his figure requires a Copper Age society to be scooting multi-tonne blocks up a giant ramp every few minutes like a Henry Ford assembly line
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and yes my email is in the video description, it's info@unchartedx.com
@pierrerust2423
@pierrerust2423 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good point ! If I remember well, a passage in J.A. West famous book "Serpent in the Sky" deals with the same subject: the later author relates how in the early 80s a Japanese team of scientists tried to build a 10 meter high scale pyramid consisting of concrete blocks very similar to the limestone blocks found in the GP and tried to put them in place with some kind of simple cranes (even though the Dynastic Egyptians did not even possess such equipment according to the main stream archeologists...); after a few trials they had to abandon their project since it had quickly gone completely down the drain and the whole experience ended up in total mess architecturally speaking.
@robertlewis4666
@robertlewis4666 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! This isn't pseudo science or conspiracy bullshit, but actual, focused observations, that question and demand a rethink of our ancient history
@robertlewis4666
@robertlewis4666 5 жыл бұрын
@@surfk9836 Of course we don't know how they did it, that's the whole mystery. So, discarding any lunatic fringe theories of little green men from outer space doing it, and knowing the technology that did exist at the time of the ancients.....whats your brain fart theory of how they accomplished what has been found on these sites?
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 3 жыл бұрын
Just because we can’t explain something, doesn’t mean that there isn’t a simple explanation. It just means we haven’t found it yet.
@cxnez
@cxnez 3 жыл бұрын
Abit of water and friction u can cut these blocks with just a cow bone there’s a video on yt to prove this
@michaelschemmel1984
@michaelschemmel1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@cxnez Yes and it took 2 days to do 1 inch.
@michaelschemmel1984
@michaelschemmel1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomhumanoidblob4506 Considering he was fired for reasons like that, yes
@michaelhart7569
@michaelhart7569 3 жыл бұрын
Every solution, even complex ones, often seem simple once the secret is revealed. But this conundrum, and all the other ones Ben highlights, seem to be lost to humans even after several thousand years and enormous advances in technology. As a chemist, I can certainly think of simple ways to produce highly corrosive reagents that may help dissolve silica and associated minerals from granite at high temperatures, thus rendering the rock friable. But I am still at a loss to explain the machine-tooling marks and amazing precision demonstrated with the internal edges and corners, to name just a couple of points. Ben, to his credit, acts like a true scientist when acknowledging doubts and criticising dogma from 'the establishment'. He may not describe himself as a scientist but he exhibits all the best qualities that a scientist is supposed to have when keeping an open mind.
@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175
@beyondenigma-esotericsecre9175 3 жыл бұрын
occam's razor is bullshit and a big illogical fallacy. "ccam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic or a scientific result; the preference for simplicity in the scientific method is based on the falsifiability criterion. For each accepted explanation of a phenomenon, there may be an extremely large, perhaps even incomprehensible, number of possible and more complex alternatives. Since failing explanations can always be burdened with hypotheses to prevent them from being falsified, simpler theories are preferable to more complex ones because they tend to be more testable."
@-757-
@-757- Жыл бұрын
This one of your best videos. Intriguing
@dr.feelgood2358
@dr.feelgood2358 5 жыл бұрын
at first i was skeptical about how you would present this info (eg. "ancient aliens") i was glad that you stuck to the science !
@AirborneAnt
@AirborneAnt 4 жыл бұрын
DR. Feelgood like Graham Hancock has said...you don’t need interstellar travelers to explain the sites...it seems more likely a high civilization got wiped out before us
@Pabloworldwide
@Pabloworldwide 4 жыл бұрын
@@AirborneAnt It is not that difficult to consider your theory of previous "high civilisation" when you simply take a look at our own history and the way civilisations have risen and fallen throughout our recorded history and look further toward the direction today's civilisation seems to be going. I honestly don't see our current civilisation will be around much longer. Maybe another 100 years or so if humans don't sort their shit out.
@AirborneAnt
@AirborneAnt 4 жыл бұрын
Max Wilder yes for sure...the megalithic sites across earth are incredible...and the older you go back the more intricate and complex they are...and they are supposed to be one step out of the caves? That don’t make no sense...that’s like inventing the Ferrari before the Bicycle...the Lost Civ knew something that we don’t today...they worked with nature as we work against it...
@lambertoazzi7883
@lambertoazzi7883 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Pabloworldwide A proposal... why not to try to listen to what the ancient people themselves have to say about the subject. Ninive's archives (just to take one example) say a lot and speaks with the untampered voices of Sumerian people of thousands of years ago... same goes for the Indian and Egyptian cultures, even if for those, the occasion for a first-hand account is rare because of the medium used in writing. Mainstream mark as "myth" everything that doesn't fit the common narrative, telling that the ancient people were wasting precious time, money and resources to write fairytales... because that is what it should be if the mainstream fake-scientists (real science is the opposite to dogma... who refuse peer-review is an impostor and not Scientist) and let the "religion" issue where it is: the concept of "god" as we know today is a direct derivation from the Greek "Theoi" and just to mark the point, there is not even the term of "god" as we understand it, in Hebrew, Aramaic, Babylonian or Sumerian... at best is goes as "supreme ruler" until the Sumerian Anunna which are people in flesh and bone. About raise and decline of civilizations: If you have not yet got the opportunity, I suggest the reading of "Limits to Growth" (D. Meadows) that explain the reports of a quite exhaustive study of the various factors that concur to the rise and decline of high-technological civilizations.... with a quite unsurprising forecast for what we can expect very shortly given the lemming-attitude that humanity has taken. And by the way... Happy new year! :-)
@Pabloworldwide
@Pabloworldwide 4 жыл бұрын
@@lambertoazzi7883 I like what you have written here. It speaks to me in many positive ways. I will indeed follow your prompts to further my knowledge of the subject. Happy New Year to you to friend.
@mijodo2008
@mijodo2008 4 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt the best, most intelligent discourse on this subject. Using logic, critical thinking and reason, this is the way to approach such a subject. Cheers from Michael. Australia.
@velwheel3135
@velwheel3135 4 жыл бұрын
Ability and knowledge can be lost. Take the present day, when "they" turn off the cell towers, all knowledge for the next generation will be lost.
@NorthPoleJeff
@NorthPoleJeff 4 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely true, all knowledge will be lost because we no longer buy books. One researcher said about the missing plans of the Greek super structures that were built, "Where are the plans". Now that we have digital storage, if something destroys that storage or destroys what reads the storage, then we have no access to the knowledge. Digital libraries are a doom to future knowledge when societies are falling. Just think what happens to a piece of plastic after not too many years in the weather. When it's exposed it falls apart in just a few years. This is what happened to all of the notepads that the previous civilizations have had with all of these plans and the knowledge. After the civilization had fallen, then everything disintegrated.
@velwheel3135
@velwheel3135 4 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Dyrek correct, and the earliest recorded information was applied to leather which degrades, even being eaten by insects. Smart bugs. One of the biggest destroyer of knowledge are invading cultures. The aim is to obliterate the previous owners of the land just taken. Many ancient cities did not fall apart on their own but were knocked down by the victors.
@NorthPoleJeff
@NorthPoleJeff 4 жыл бұрын
@@velwheel3135 That's a good point. It's not just the elements that are degrading our stored knowledge, the wars are making us lose our past. Thank you very much and have a nice day.
@Staminist-MMF-80
@Staminist-MMF-80 4 жыл бұрын
Mother nature could annihilate us like we never been here before. Which, happened before, we all know. Just electricity in itself - take it away to modern humans - immediate disaster. Yes, generations may very well existed before us, for all we know we could be generation v3.0 ? Our history is like a Swiss cheese - full of holes, but everyone eats the cheese part, no questions asked..
@NorthPoleJeff
@NorthPoleJeff 4 жыл бұрын
@@Staminist-MMF-80 Thank you very much for writing this. You have such an interesting way of expressing yourself that I had to write back. Yes, our history is full of holes and all we get is the cheese. But, I sure like listening to programs like this because they allow us to see into the holes in the Swiss Cheese. Have a nice day.
@moonbear894
@moonbear894 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I might have missed it, but what are the theories as to why there are tube holes, what is the utility of the holes? To run rope or poles through to help to move the stone? To remove a chunk, to split the rock? Thanks/
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr.
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr. 4 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting, I noticed the spiral groves on the cores when I visited the Cairo museum and I wondered how sand drilling could make a single continuous grove. The advanced stone work simply amazed me, especially in the very delicate artwork. Great story.
@alanmarshall4989
@alanmarshall4989 11 ай бұрын
the problem, is the grooves are not a single continuous spiral. as is shown on other videos available.
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr.
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr. 11 ай бұрын
@@alanmarshall4989 Did you watch the video? The groves are a single spiral from top to bottom. No sand drilling can make those marks in any form or fashion.
@alanmarshall4989
@alanmarshall4989 11 ай бұрын
@@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr. yes I watched the video, but did you see the videos debunking it all? It's no good just watching videos or reading stuff that reinforces your own narrative.
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr.
@Sandy.J.Lloyd.Sr. 11 ай бұрын
@@alanmarshall4989 I’ve done more than just watch the video, I’ve been to the Egyptian Museum and have seen them for myself. Also I just recently spoke with the head of Egyptian antiquities and curator of the Egyptian Museum, Dr. Zahi Hawass, while he was in Orlando Florida earlier this year. We not only discussed the tube drill samples but also the possible methods used to make the stone bowls and the Schist Disk. P.S. Dr. Hawass believes in the sand method of drilling. He’s also a very funny man, nothing like you see in documentaries, but if an opportunity to meet him comes up I would highly recommend you take it.
@trentbrisket1159
@trentbrisket1159 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! A conundrum that is both enigmatic and mysterious.
@mr16ga
@mr16ga 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is not with Egyptology only. It, the set in stone principal, is throughout all higher education. G** forbid that anyone would question what is in their dissertation. It is amazing that we make progress at all. I was 27 years old and attending university, after 7 years in the USN, I had to write a paper and was soundly put down by the professor because I expressed an opinion of my own. At which time I told him that I was older than the other students and that I had been to a war and that I did have opinions and was going to express them. I ran in this same mind set in industry.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Taylor 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@macioluko9484
@macioluko9484 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I totally see your point. We are expected to sit down, shut up, not rock the boat and to regurgitate data. A monkey can do that!
@roodborstkalf9664
@roodborstkalf9664 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons that our civilization is in steep decline.
@westhouse4641
@westhouse4641 4 жыл бұрын
was this a "set in stone" pun
@nickfrost9771
@nickfrost9771 4 жыл бұрын
Highjack the black knight satalite. Hack into its mainframe and download all of the earths history it has been monitoring and storing for the past 300 million years. If you don't soon, I will 😉😉😉...
@Ethera918
@Ethera918 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel. I love your economy of words
@caseyellis4480
@caseyellis4480 4 жыл бұрын
It saddens me that Mr. Dunn's meticulous, scientifically validated studies are willfully ignored by Egyptology cause the only way we will find an answer to these mysteries is together and that sucks.
@a1sloth1
@a1sloth1 5 жыл бұрын
Distortions and misdirection belong in a magic show, science is serious business and requires HONESTY. You have made a very interesting film, thank you.
@muddybuddy90
@muddybuddy90 5 жыл бұрын
WELL DONE!! Methodical and thorough. Well researched and evidenced arguments! I was glued to it from the start. Keep up the good work and you'll have me waiting for everything you produce. OH... And l love the full documentary length video!!! You rock!
@DeathByLoveOfSpeed
@DeathByLoveOfSpeed Жыл бұрын
i just binged watched over 16+ hours almost straight(besides eating and going to the store- under hour combined), of your videos after i seen your Rogan pod 😮
@ivepeters
@ivepeters 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised the core hasn't disappeared, like some others, in all these years.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 4 жыл бұрын
it's in the petrie museum in London, and not in an Egyptian museum.
@leeegg7627
@leeegg7627 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't there other cores? Wouldn't they also show the spiral?
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
@IosuamacaMhadaidh 4 жыл бұрын
For real! But with that said, "they" (whomever they are) won't bother hiding anything from us that has enough ?'s to keep the scientific community arguing, knowing that most people don't pay attention to this stuff. Ask everyone you know if they have even HEARD of these drill cores and you'll probably be surprised how many people do not, or if they do they buy the mainstream explanation, or lack there of 😁
@przybyla420
@przybyla420 4 жыл бұрын
Or switched out for one with horizontal lines...
@al2207
@al2207 3 жыл бұрын
@spidy9237 no, find by M. Petrie itself
@MindbodyMedic
@MindbodyMedic 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible. I'm gonna show this to a friend who runs a machinist engineering firm
@coryCuc
@coryCuc 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear what he has to say...
@TheTinoXL
@TheTinoXL 4 жыл бұрын
What did they say?
@peterl7048
@peterl7048 4 жыл бұрын
paperchasin23 how’d you go with your friend did he have a gander?
@joshuaosterhout
@joshuaosterhout 4 жыл бұрын
Well?
@dougjstl1
@dougjstl1 4 жыл бұрын
So.!? $#*&
@DDGXMUSIC
@DDGXMUSIC 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just wanted to comment to say that this was great work, very compelling and to help with the algorithm for more exposure.
@Jay-ez1xb
@Jay-ez1xb 2 жыл бұрын
What a refreshing video, more professional and persuasive than any of the mainstream media. Thank you.
@trustlister9297
@trustlister9297 5 жыл бұрын
Did one ever tried to pickup the grooves with a turntable like needle or laser to convert the 'recorded track' in the stone into audio? That might give more information about the device used to grind the material or , ok that may sounds strange, but may allow one to 'hear' what was recorded, picked up in the near surrounding, which must have been possible if they've used oszillating devices. Extracting any other frequencies than the 'humming noise' from the 'machinery' could reveal exciting stuff.. This 'exciting stuff' might have come into the 'track' due to interferencies caused by noise around the site that got overlayed to the machinery's sound and is probably cut in stone since thousands of years. I therefor guess it would be worth to give it a try. The whole characteristic reminds me of some early edison phonographs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph#/media/File:Amberola_close-up.jpg
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 5 жыл бұрын
With today's laser technology, the surface could be easily 'mapped' and analysed .
@johnrogers9481
@johnrogers9481 5 жыл бұрын
Trust... Ha, an excellent idea. Scan the core with a laser CD/DVD type scanner and see if it can PLAY any sound that might have been laid down into those groove. Groovy idea.!
@stephenhill4353
@stephenhill4353 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea, if it was harmonic vibration it would replay and we could duplicate...well done!
@airplanegeorge
@airplanegeorge 4 жыл бұрын
And the first results sound like Steve Martin playing King Tut, how did you get so funky, on the banjo. then what? No really, that's a brilliant Idea.
@Shepherd4now
@Shepherd4now 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing you'd likely "hear" is the harmonics of the cutting tool, and for that you'd need to know what frequency the marks were recorded/drilled. You could guess, but since the correct frequency would sound like nothing and the wrong frequencies would also sound like nothing, it'd be tough to be certain. And finally, surrounding sounds wouldn't really be recorded into the grooves because the material is hard -it's not wet clay or wax. If they were ever recorded at all it would have had to have been on a nanometer scale which has been long destroyed by thousands of years of weathering.
@reidmalenfant7184
@reidmalenfant7184 5 жыл бұрын
That is an exceedingly compelling and well presented case you’ve made here; I had been completely unaware of this particular issue. Short of seeing the actual physical evidence for myself, which, as in 99.9% of all scientific research, I am unable to do; I have been persuaded. I have always said that my inclination is to follow the evidence, no matter where it leads ...... but never once did I foresee it would take me in such a direction. I’m sitting on my sofa still blinking at the implications. I look forward to viewing the next instalment - nicely done Ben, commendable work.
@M33f3r
@M33f3r 5 жыл бұрын
Truth is treason in the empire of lies. Those of us who seek the truth no matter where it leads have always been at odds with those would would seek to rule us through tyranny and falsehood.
@pauldudley8837
@pauldudley8837 4 жыл бұрын
This guy gives a phenomenally Fair approach 2 the question of ancient Egyptian tube drills. I like the way he presents the information in order for us to make our own conclusion
@chrisp2272
@chrisp2272 4 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to search out real scientists with PhDs. This guy is a snake oil salesman, and you’re dumb enough to fall for it.
@elviselvis780
@elviselvis780 4 жыл бұрын
You can't give a fair approach when the subject is just drivel. And you are a gullible idiot.
@MidNight-ns7is
@MidNight-ns7is 2 жыл бұрын
You thanked Mr Dunn and I thank you both.
@keepitsharp7231
@keepitsharp7231 3 жыл бұрын
This documentary is incredible. What a sterling job.
@wedgetarian
@wedgetarian 5 жыл бұрын
Wow - what a great video!!! This video and others you’ve made have answered so many questions I’ve had. I was there last April looking at all of the examples displayed here, and left with so many questions... I can’t thank you enough for your hard work. Thank you so much!!!
@noelcowie4617
@noelcowie4617 4 жыл бұрын
An absolute eye opener. There is no doubt in my mind that there has been, at least one highly advanced civilization on this planet, prior to the current one, with vastly superior knowledge to ours. Looking forward to more great videos such as this. Well done, and keep up the good work. Noel. Capetown, South Africa
@MrHantz101
@MrHantz101 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree. How else would you explain the similar pyramid structures from such removed and isolated civilizations as Egypt, South America and Thailand? You can't convince me that all these cultures met each other and shared the knowledge/reason to build pyramids, nor that they all developed them independently, someone had to have taught them all.
@sbennettyt
@sbennettyt Жыл бұрын
If you spin the core in a lathe and observe the grooves it would be plain to see if it is a helix. Even the most unskilled person could see it. The grooves would appear to travel toward one end. I would love to see this demonstrated.
@Apookako
@Apookako Жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking
@davidbarlow431
@davidbarlow431 5 жыл бұрын
The egyptologists really don't like it when the hard sciences play in their sandbox.
@Kivas_Fajo
@Kivas_Fajo 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick That's not true. Geologists have proven with scientific evidence, that the Sphinx and both temples next to it must be 12.000 + years old, possibly up to 30.000 years and yet they claim it was built 2.500 b.c.
@standj21
@standj21 4 жыл бұрын
So very true! Just try and do chronological research and get ready to pull out your hair.
@marksang-pur9984
@marksang-pur9984 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kivas_Fajo The temples were built around 2350 b.c. after the great flood that happened around 3000 b.c. The Sphinx is far older though... nobody knows how old exactly. The oldest pyramids in the world are the step pyramids you can find in every corner of the earth. That is why the Pyramid of Saqqara is shaped that way and the others are not.
@Kivas_Fajo
@Kivas_Fajo 4 жыл бұрын
@@marksang-pur9984 Well, no. Geologists proved, that the temples were built with the stones they removed to build the Sphinx, so you are just wrong here. Also I guess, sure don't know, that the three great pyramids are from that time and the so called oldest pyramids you mentioned are the first tries to copy what they found on the Giza plateau and failed the first tries. The great flood happend approximately 9600 b.c. by the way and there is evidence for that all over the planet, so I really don't know how you come up with 3000 b.c. ? Also, you claim to know what the oldest pyramids on the planet are, when in fact nobody knows. The archaeologists logic is, that if I eat a snickers and throw it away near an old object , it gets buried over time and thousands of years later someone finds that snickers wrapping foil next to this old thing the snickers wrapping foil and the old object are from the same time period, which is neither scientific, nor in any way smart. It seeing what you want to see, with two blind eyes. Why aren't there any hieroglyphs in the most impressive and massive pyramids on the planet, when we all know that egyptians engraved hieroglyphs on everything they had built? My guess is that they didn't build it.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
Especially islamist bigots like the current wide brimmed dictator of Giza.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman 4 жыл бұрын
. you know according to Hawass, all the works done in Egypt was done with stone chisels and rocks? That huge granite stones were carried up the pyramids and placed there by hand? Even today, modern builders cannot figure out construction techniques of the pyramids and how precise each stone was layed so not even a slip of paper can be slid through the cracks of stone walls. Seeing those tunes drilled and being told it was done with sand, reeds snd twine is just hysterical. Modern machinists of today know better.
@mystictr1265
@mystictr1265 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Machinist/Millwright, the evidence of cutting marks and shaping is very clear. Large radial cutters, drills and the ability to create complex radius by having convex and concave features on the same piece. Feed rates are remarkable, on some cores 2 mm feeds, without interruption or requirements to clear debris from the holes. Undercuts are clearly present on many amazing pieces as tiny slips by the ancient machinest's having moved the cutter just a little too far under a completed (finished) perpendicular surface. I really don't understand how archeologists and egyptologists get to explain to the world how these amazing creations were made. None of them are trained as machinest's, none of them even know what an undercut is or what rotational tool marks look like relative to size, feeds and speeds.
@ericperkins3078
@ericperkins3078 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to slip a piece of paper between any two things to measure their proximity to each other? I don't think anyone has. It's just not how we measure things. The reasons for a flimsy piece of paper NOT slipping between two surfaces are so numerous that concluding that the two things are fitting together precisely is simply erroneous.
@karmageddon9856
@karmageddon9856 3 жыл бұрын
They were never built
@powerofthought2294
@powerofthought2294 3 жыл бұрын
It really makes you think that you're not capable, doesn't it?
@kennethwhite2430
@kennethwhite2430 4 жыл бұрын
Re: Tube Drills If we look at modern drilling methods we can better understand the principals involved with tube drills. Tunnel boring machines use relatively slow cutting speeds together with high pressure from hydraulic rams. Waste is carried out via conveyor belts. Cutting heads use high strength materials. A wood drilling auger bit and brace uses a screw tipped bit that draws the cutting part of the drill to pull itself into the material at rather slow speed. It is easy to see how screw threads into stone could provide the necessary high pressure to cut into the stone from threads in the stone being cut. The cutting process from threading of the drill into the stone would not be continuous or fast. After a small amount of working the drill would be unscrewed from the hole to remove the waste by air or water. It could then be screwed back in to advance the cutting with the process being repeated. It would not be a continuous cut or fast. Modern drill heads are usually made from carbide or diamonds set into a soft material. Carborundum might be used in lieu of diamonds. It is almost as hard and is found with many colors. Rubies and Sapphire stones are variations with the most common being greenish gray and not valued as a precious jewel. Cutting treads could be on the inside or outside or both on the tube drill. The turning device could be a small handle of some length. The materials and technology for cutting threads is nothing new. Key here being they provide high downward cutting force that is repeatable.
@johnthrelfall5
@johnthrelfall5 4 жыл бұрын
Good thinking!
@EngineTuning
@EngineTuning 4 жыл бұрын
A well presented concept - worthy of an edit for typos etc. ;)
@chucklambert7283
@chucklambert7283 4 жыл бұрын
does this account for the solid cores?
@ClickClack_Bam
@ClickClack_Bam 3 жыл бұрын
I think they definitely used pulley systems to move large blocks etc rather easy. I believe they eventually used that leverage on their stone cutting machines to spin drill bits really fast.
@EngineTuning
@EngineTuning 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClickClack_Bam Your perspective is understandable; however it is countered by engineering requirements. Those being, the correct cutting speed for the drill diameter, and the feed rate of the drill bit - both being matched to the material being cut, and the need for lubricant, coolant, and evacuating the chips. Also keep in mind that some cores have a helix cut pattern. Meaning that as the drill turns, it must also advance. This latter point is very difficult to explain, when considering these ancient cores.
@joreljameson2795
@joreljameson2795 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see Chris Dunn's site is gone, and he had so few followers on fb. Go support him :)
@stevenmetz8642
@stevenmetz8642 5 жыл бұрын
You are nailing it. This is the type of approach mainstream archaeologists would be taking if they didn't have the intellectual strength of a paramecium.
@Dylan-on2gh
@Dylan-on2gh 4 жыл бұрын
Having worked with concrete cutting drilling and grinding and having done a lot of machining of steel aluminium and nylon . That is obviously a set feed rate so it has to be machine cut . It would be very rare to get that even pitch spiral by hand. There is also examples of metallurgy from 1000s of years ago that is better than we use today like real Damascus steel, also concrete and mortars we can't reproduce. Histrory could be a complete lie! Dive deep! Good work😜👍
@scoobertsalt5492
@scoobertsalt5492 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan, if they were going to put out a contract today to make a giza type pyramid, what corporations in the world could fulfull it? Is it even possible?
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 4 жыл бұрын
You can be sure those inbred Pharaohs had nothing to do with the greater works of Egypt.
@chrisp2272
@chrisp2272 4 жыл бұрын
@@steveperreira5850 You really show your ignorance with a comment about “inbred” pharaohs. Genetically speaking, a species is just an inbred animal. Look up cheetahs, for example. In some instances, this leads to negative consequences, in others, it’s very beneficial. Look up CCR5 delta32. It’s involves a cellular receptor that gives resistance to smallpox and HIV.. Rameses II lived in incredibly long time in an era where the average man didn’t. While many pharaohs reproduced with relatives, dynasties weren’t lengthy and new blood took over often.
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 4 жыл бұрын
chris P Dear Chris: you probably know a lot more about biology than I do because I am just an engineer. But I do know that political correctness rules are world these days, and it is against the rule to say that some cultures are inferior to others. Inbreeding is a sign of inferiority as it affects humans much more negatively than a few meager positive effects that you seem to cling to. Blindness is an epidemic amongst many Middle Eastern cultures, I will not name them because it will offend you greatly, but you can look them up. This blindness is caused by first cousins marrying so as to keep the money in the family. This doesn’t seem like a good trade off since although the money is kept, The progeny are blind and they can’t count it. I was born in the 1950s, just barely, so I have immunity to political correctness at all of the stupidness that has followed henceforth. Royal families throughout history have a bad habit of inbreeding and damned does it not show. Take one look at prince Charles. I can pick on him because he is so called white race. There is a remedy to political correctness, and that is to open your eyes to the reality of what the world really is. You can do it, too bad quite a few of the inbred Egyptians that are of a particular religion cannot. Good luck, Steve
@paulscrevane
@paulscrevane 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Perreira I see you now. your last line explains the root of your ‘inbred’ comment. pretty lame.
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 5 жыл бұрын
More compelling evidence that we grossly underestimate the knowledge of the ancients.
@nayeemhaque1064
@nayeemhaque1064 5 жыл бұрын
And we grossly overestimate our own.
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 5 жыл бұрын
@@nayeemhaque1064 👍
@col2959
@col2959 5 жыл бұрын
Yannick G what ancients though is the question. Certainly was not the Egyptians that's for sure.
@trumpsahead
@trumpsahead 5 жыл бұрын
@@col2959 Twas the Anunnaki to be sure. Zecharia Sitchin said it first. Wait, no, he did not say it first as there were tons of books explaining archaeological digs that unearthed tablets of Anunnaki text, including btw the "seven tablets of creation"; but he said it best, and put all the pieces of the immense puzzle of Mankind and his "evolution" together to make sense of our past even to the beginning of the formation of the planets in our solar system, creation of Mankind, Giza pyramids, Nazca lines, and thousands of artifacts left by the Anunnaki.
@col2959
@col2959 5 жыл бұрын
trumpsahead 👍🏻 was even in the bible before the Roman Catholic Church removed the book of enoch
@Telecasterland
@Telecasterland 2 жыл бұрын
Christopher Dunn's work is so outstanding. Looking at it objectively instead of with predetermined ideas was key.
@daos3300
@daos3300 Жыл бұрын
except just like this channel, he does the exact opposite which renders his work irrelevant at best.
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 8 ай бұрын
​@@daos3300 I prefer this guy over Christopher Dunn. Dunn has huge holes in his narrative. I've learned to avoid his work. He claims that the pyramids were nuclear power plants. They weren't, but they weren't tombs either.
@SzTz100
@SzTz100 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video. You are head and shoulders better than any other analyst on this subject.
@mytubedude532
@mytubedude532 4 жыл бұрын
wrapping a thread around the spiral was brilliant...simple but brilliant...
@marksparks4787
@marksparks4787 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work mate, be proud of this work. Well done..
@brettlong2630
@brettlong2630 2 жыл бұрын
Well done video ! I have worked all kinds of stones , including granite , but mostly Jade or commonly known as nephrite for the better part of 30 yrs. . it is harder than granite for the most part . What I would like to bring up is a few points of importance . One would be the physical makeup of the stone being worked , the other being how the cutting tools are made . The grinding and drilling tools I used are made with sintered diamond , being the diamond particles are cast into a bronze matrix . How a cutting tool reacts to a certain material is the hardness of the matrix metal , and the size and concentration of the abrasive particles . The tools that were specifically made for jade , were designed for maximum cutting and minimum wear of the tool . These tools cut Jade efficiently , but cut granite like butter , I had to be careful not to over cut in many cases . On the drilling aspect , I'm commenting towards the grooves mentioned in the video . The method I have to employ in order to prevent destroying the tool due to over heating , is to Pull up on the drill bit to allow cooling and for the coolant (water) to escape along with the waste material . The groves you speak of may be due to the rhythmic release of pressure on the drill tube ? Also if one were to witness a large drag /swing saw , one could see the arc left in the cut , negating the idea of a huge diameter circular blade on slabs or blocks . I studied the ancient Chinese jade carving techniques, they were also able to cut this stone with primitive tools as far back as 6000 BC, according to some scholars. Some of the artifacts from ancient China show the same rings .
@mikev4621
@mikev4621 Жыл бұрын
The native Maori people of New Zealand made beautiful weapons and ornaments from greenstone ( a very hard form of nephrite). Half completed examples have been found, showing cuts ,or holes, in progress from rubbing with softer materials.
@brettlong2630
@brettlong2630 Жыл бұрын
@@mikev4621 Are you the author replying or , just commenting on my post ? I was hoping to have a conversation with the author !
@mikev4621
@mikev4621 Жыл бұрын
@@brettlong2630 No I'm just commenting on your post. The author is UnchartedX
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 5 жыл бұрын
"Good job, gentlemen, you've made an inch-deep cut and an inch-deep hole after a couple days' work. Now I want you to turn that block into a hollow box with perfectly planed sides and right-angle corners inside and out! I want to be able to put a machinist's straightedge on it and slide it around, and not find any gaps! Then the next thing you're gonna do is make a limestone box to fit into this one with no wiggle room and no gaps, so you better get those angles right! Here's some twine, a plumb-bob, and a hand-carved wooden ruler to do those measurements with. Good luck!" Even if we grant that the Egyptians could have made these granite artifacts with simple tools plus ridiculous amounts of patience and hard labor, that only makes the other question more difficult to answer: why?! It's one thing to imagine a vainglorious king making himself a granite coffin if it only takes a few days or months to make. But if it takes years of full employment for the best master stonemasons (well-paid expert labor rather than whip-driven slaves), when he could die in battle, by assassination, plague or even spreading infection from an abscessed tooth (there are mummies where this appears to be the cause of death) at pretty much any time, wouldn't that be an unnecessary risk to his successful journey to the West? Hehe, maybe that's why nobody found any bodies in these boxes: "Curses! His Majesty, life--health, and prosperity to him--has died, and we're only halfway done with his sarcophagus! We've only got 70 days to finish, plus we've still got to move the thing into his House of Eternity! And there's no *way* the architects will have time to build the rest of the pyramid over it after we're done!" "I've got an idea: why don't we get some wood-carvers to make him (life, health, prosperity) a really nice wooden sarcophagus with incantations carved in high relief, layer it inside and out with gold, maybe put in some lapis lasuli, turquoise and onyx inlays if they've got time. It'll look really pretty, and if they work double-shifts, they should get it done in time. Plus, it's lots easier for the workmen to move! Then we just sink a shaft into the rock somewhere, put the sarcophagus and his grave goods in it, bury the lot, and we're done!" "Whew, we're saved! But what about this box we've been working on? Not to mention the pyramid... All that work, wasted!" "Weeeell...we still have the Scroll of Proclamation by which His Majesty (life, health, prosperity) ordered them to be created, and the outlays for our work are already gathered... Plus, once we're finished, all the robbers will be so busy trying to get into the pyramid, they'll never even look for the actual tomb. It's a win-win! 'As it is written, so let it be done,' am I right?" Then, after this story played out a bunch of times, some Pharaoh finally said, "You know what, this is ridiculous! I'm just gonna go with the wooden coffin and the hidden shaft from the start, and spend the pyramid money on something practical, like war chariots or more canals!" That must be how it happened, right? The original Masonic conspiracy! :D
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
great read :)
@nayeemhaque1064
@nayeemhaque1064 5 жыл бұрын
We made a scratch and said see that’s how they did it!
@meademorgan6614
@meademorgan6614 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, they say the great pyramid was completed in only 20 years. They must have been sawing and drilling a heck of a lot faster than the dudes from PBS. 🤔
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 5 жыл бұрын
@@meademorgan6614 Um, throw lots more people at it? And hope you've got enough soldiers poking them with pointy sticks to keep them working, and that the soldiers won't go, "Crap this is boring, stupid, and hot. Screw it, let's just overthrow this guy, put our general in charge, and everybody can go home and relax in the shade until the Inundation recedes." :)
@66holt
@66holt 5 жыл бұрын
very cool , know exactly what you mean , i have worked with granite in sydney for over 30 yrs , , i know this stone and know how HARD it is :)
@adamdavis5243
@adamdavis5243 5 жыл бұрын
why did it have to be a chisel of ANY material that snaps the core off? the "hammer" itself would work. or even another chunk of granite.
@seankelly5318
@seankelly5318 5 жыл бұрын
You could even use a wooden wedge soaked in water.
@kieranmcnulty7582
@kieranmcnulty7582 5 жыл бұрын
When you do coring with concrete it more often than not ends up lodging in the drill itself so yes you're on it
@trisbane4086
@trisbane4086 3 жыл бұрын
@@kieranmcnulty7582 Kieran, surely I don't have to tell you that concrete is a material far weaker and softer than granite, right? You're not going to dislodge granite with a copper drill. You would need a lot of force and a sturdier material.
@RalphEllis
@RalphEllis 4 жыл бұрын
Those fluted granite pillar capitals (at Tanis) are most definitely ‘inherited’. They were worked by the 21st dynasty, who cut their cartouches into pre-existing decorations. But the pillars are clearly much, much older than the 21st dynasty. Ralph
@Elizabeth-pd4sd
@Elizabeth-pd4sd 5 күн бұрын
Petrie would be proud of you Sir - thank you for feeding my brain - I been starving for such superbly presented documentary - thank you!
@MrOnegreen1
@MrOnegreen1 5 жыл бұрын
38:00 "as you can see here, we achieved this in just a few days!" Modern team proudly showing how the ancients did it with copper saw and sand. 2 inches into a granite block. Great video! Wow, if we could replicate what the ancient builders actually achieved! Amazing.
@joeltucker306
@joeltucker306 5 жыл бұрын
I found that comment pretty amusing too. 😄
@MichaelEMaus
@MichaelEMaus 5 жыл бұрын
Two inches for 4 men, a mighty leap for mankind. :)
@DZGunner
@DZGunner 4 жыл бұрын
11:11 "then they just seem to decline in capability over the next several thousand years, this just Isn't how civilizations work." Have you ever watched a cringe compilation, or maybe even just watched what people say and do in mainstream media? Have you ever gone to your local Walmart and interacted with people? I rest my case.
@gangleweed
@gangleweed 4 жыл бұрын
@boostedsil40 I would have to agree with you on that score.....the evidence is right before your eyes.
@robmerrill3460
@robmerrill3460 4 жыл бұрын
@boostedsil40 - nature's laws man has been defying and ignorantly suffering the consequences for years now.
@theknave4415
@theknave4415 4 жыл бұрын
A validation of r/K Selection Theory ;)
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 4 жыл бұрын
DZGunner yeah looking at modern day America you don't really see too much evidence for civilisation advancing a whole lot, certainly not in terms of the general population.
@oscargoldman85
@oscargoldman85 4 жыл бұрын
Egyptians today are different people to those that built the pyramids. (Based on DNA comparison of mummies etc). The old population was more similar to a Levant/Syrian mixed ethnicity, and has gradually been replaced with Arab bloodlines since the Islamic conquering of North Africa around 640BCE
@leemaples1806
@leemaples1806 5 жыл бұрын
If we could conclude how the holes were made, we still have the issue of why. Why was so much effort put into making these holes in stone to begin with. How do we sort of re-assemble the holed stones into a `working model` so we could see what the purpose was for the drill holes.
@danamcalister
@danamcalister 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Maples there already many examples still intact. There are hinges in doors and many other examples. If there was a question as to why don’t you think that someone would’ve asked that question? But you can look into it and I’m sure you will very easily find many examples as to what they were used for.in face Ben even showed some examples in the beginning of the video ie; the cutting of boxes and vases etc.
@UnchartedX
@UnchartedX 5 жыл бұрын
I think it was primarily for removal of material. this is still how we do it today in spaces that you can't make straight cuts into.
@MaciejRabiejMR
@MaciejRabiejMR 5 жыл бұрын
It wasnt hard to do. It was done because it was simple, fast and easy. Don't measure their achievements with our knowledge. In some technologies we still might be far behind ancients.
@byronwheeler4210
@byronwheeler4210 5 жыл бұрын
Lee, if we could see these megaliths in their original pristine construct, it might tell the tale. Sadly, one or more cataclysms stand between us and that long lost opportunity. On the bright side, the blueprints, along with the builders and their technology have to be buried somewhere...however deep.
@craigfawcett5745
@craigfawcett5745 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnchartedX well today we drill holes mostly for plumbing and electrical conduit. Or we even drill holes to put straps through so we can move concrete blocks/slabs by putting straps through. There's many uses for today, but they did prov use it for removal of material. Hence the numerous side by side holes.
@tomfish1285
@tomfish1285 Жыл бұрын
Extremely professional you tube channel. One of if not the best so far. Looking forward to more!
@gerhardtaxthelm6581
@gerhardtaxthelm6581 4 жыл бұрын
I love your perspective! Way back in about 1967 I was in grade 8 studying in my room preparing for exams. My father happened to come in to see what I was doing. When he saw the text book on Egyptian pyramids and history he remarked. " Answer the questions as you are taught, not as the pictures clearly show!" My father was a trained machinist and toolmaker having gotten his papers right after the war in Germany. He and other class mates at that time already contradicted "Mainstream History"! At that time he believed in "advanced not developed technology! He firmly believed that we have virtually completely lost our built up technology between 3 or 6 times due to some catastrophe. He also mentioned that in the 1930's the discovery of alloyed stainless pipes in India that until then had not been done in modern times. Have you heard of the stainless pipe in India? Even other teachers had supported his belief when I mentioned it in school over the consequent years. There is more believe than you realize in our society being virtually wiped out than that of few Hard Core Historians sticking to their believes.
@RollingThunder808
@RollingThunder808 4 жыл бұрын
My theory is this simulation started with these lost ancient high technology in place because no tools were ever found in the whole world that could do that type of work.
@nicedraeger2794
@nicedraeger2794 5 жыл бұрын
An excellent presentation. The evidence for 'lost technology' is clearly stated, well-presented and with minimal unstated bias. Very professional. The more that is learned, scrutinized, and closely examined, the more some antediluvian 'forerunner' civilization definitely seems likely as the "source" of not only the Pyramids and Sphinx, but also the other megalithic sites around the world. I'm genuinely curious about the nature of this lost technology, and will entertain any and all speculation!
@Emerild
@Emerild 5 жыл бұрын
Check out that Christopher Dunn, man.
@redwoodcoast
@redwoodcoast 5 жыл бұрын
@@Emerild his website is gizapower.com
@mithras666
@mithras666 5 жыл бұрын
Did you know that the Pyramids can focus electromagnetic energy from certain lengths of waves (Soundwaves to radiowaves notably)... This points to another purpose of the Pyramid, maybe even its main purpose (Harnessing the energy of the earth and the sun).
@redwoodcoast
@redwoodcoast 5 жыл бұрын
​@@mithras666 You need to understand that you are delving into an issue without any knowledge of its parameters, its measured intensity, its 'power'. Instruments these days are so incredible sensitive that they can measure differences that to us are imperceptible. So the real issue isn't what was discovered about the pyramid and energy, but the strength of the energy. Is it barely measurable? And even a nicely detectable level may have no conceivable application for a need purpose.
@mattgartside7885
@mattgartside7885 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a time served turner. On occasion, a large diameter drill could become jammed in a bore due to uncleared swarf. An efficient way of removing said drill was often cranking the non-revolving drill backwards out of the slow turning workpiece. This sometimes resulted in a large pitch helical groove being scored into the bore. This helical groove would have a pitch far greater than the feed rate of the original cut. Possibly more than a hundred times greater. The comparison here is quite clear. Maybe the helical groove could or may have been due to jamming of the tube in the granite because of compacted sand powder.
@desmondtighe9410
@desmondtighe9410 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, This is a great possible explanation for these helical grooves. Well done Sir. As the author of this video previously explained, the only way to confirm all this work is to carry out additional testing latex mounds) of the rest of the cores in various museums and at the sites in Egypt there the holes exist 👏
@marjon1703
@marjon1703 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I'm an engineer and am with you on your explanation. I had concluded that the spiral was probably created whist cranking a freshly hard stone lipped tube drill into the bore after the old drill wore out (your inference from the opposite view point). As the new drill would have thicker un-worn hard stones, it would have to be cranked in to the cut to get to the work surface. It is logical to use both wet sand and an embedded hard stone lip as the hard stone would last longer at the work surface than copper based metal during grinding. Towards the end of this presentation it is mentioned that heat could have made the "burnished" surface on the core. In my opinion this is the result of wet sand being ground down in to polishing paste.
@debrainwasher
@debrainwasher 4 жыл бұрын
This explanation might be correct for retraction of the cutting tool. These uniform (!) spiral groves with feed rates up to the mm-range per revolution however point clearly towards a kind of milling machine with constant angular velocity and a tool-pressure controlled power-feed mechanism in the z-axis with diamond coated (!) tubular drilling heads, excited by ultrasonic vibrations. This is not a joke, since there are cutting-energy and heating considerations, that limit the amount of material that can be cut per time. And not to mention a steady, pressurized coolant flow, that transports stone chips and debris out of the boring.
@nucleardubs
@nucleardubs 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Gartside Interesting thought but wouldn't there be both horizontal striations as well as spiral grooves to show the cutting action as well as the removal/insertion of the cutting tool? Since there does not seem to be both marks on core seven, the removal of the tool must have obliterated the cutting marks or your postulation is incorrect.
@marjon1703
@marjon1703 4 жыл бұрын
@@nucleardubs The horizontal striations would be so close together that the act of wet ground up sand would polish these smooth, giving a burnished effect. the deeper spirals may be caused by a jammed cutting head or a new cutting head being cranked in or out.
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