Uncontrollable Over Hong Kong | Hong Kong Dragon Airlines Flight 323

[@Phantom-309-e9p]

Something about the sky and the 747 at the end of these videos that is just too beautiful.

[@fatimaali8645]

Because she is the queen and perfect 👌 ❤

[@MustafaKemal-oe8ie]

Of course

[@mmburgess11]

Great job of CRM by this crew! Wrestling a digital fly-by-wire aircraft while running out of fuel must have made for some intense problem-solving discussions. All this over what was one of the most challenging airports to land at.

[@ohnaw223]

Hey man, not sure if you read comments. Just wanted to appreciate you for what you do. I first started watching you as a young aviation enthusiast when i was in 5th grade, my mom also interested in your videos as I watched them in the living room TV all the time. Years have passed and I've graduated, Im getting back into aviation to pursue as a future hobby and I randomly remembered your account. You were definitely a part of my childhood and I thank you for putting the effort into these videos. I am honestly surprised to see the consistent uploading, and Im honestly happy you are! Love from America!

[@asteverino8569]

Thanks Allec. I know making a video takes time, effort and creativity.

[@armorer94]

It was bad enough trying to get into Kai-Tak without problems...

[@TheShowblox]

Hong Kong Dragon Airlines is a badass name tbh for an airline

[@Skrice]

It was an airline, but then it went bankrupt during covid. I have been on them a lot before and they were awesome. Well I mean their name was Cathay Dragon, but no difference hm?

[@hamburgerwithham1956]

@@Skriceit was Dragon air first, after they went bankrupt Cathay Pacific bought the company but decided to keep half their name. They also kept the staffs and flight crew until 2020 they finally can’t keep making profit anymore. They disbanded Cathay Dragon but kept some of their flight crew in Cathay’s A321neo fleet.

[@Skrice]

@@hamburgerwithham1956 Yep, Cathay Pacific also kept some of the A330’s which is cool.

[@hamburgerwithham1956]

@@Skrice the A321neos were actually dragon air’s order too. After Dragon air’s shutdown Cathay took over the orders and changed it from ceo to neos instead.

[@Skrice]

@@hamburgerwithham1956 Mhm

[@CaptainRon1913]

And people bash Boeing. The A320 has it's fair share of catastrophic problems over the years including the carbon fiber vertical stabs detaching from the fuselage

[@dpmoos3225]

The difference is that boeing is a criminal origanization. Airbus is not. How i come to this conclusion? If you save costs by reducing AOA sensors to 1 on the MAX and remove redundancy you have lost all credibility .

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@@dpmoos3225. And yet regulators worldwide approved the design.

[@dpmoos3225]

@@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763yes, I didn't write boeing is the only criminal party in this story. But it is boeings product, their primary responsibilty. A company with pride doesnt sell something unsafe. If you remove redundancy in aviation you simply prioritize profit over safety of passengers. This is no rocket sience. Boeing has a big problem, People wont forgive and forget this so easily. And rightfully so.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@@dpmoos3225 Agreed but notice that government employees rarely, if ever, are held responsible for their failures. You need an NTSB but not an FAA as an example.

[@vociferon-heraldofthewinte7763]

@@dpmoos3225 Agreed that Boeing f-ed up. But there were many regulators who signed off on that f-up none of whom lost their jobs. Since they are the final sign-off and set of eyes responsible for the flying public’s safety, I would argue that it is they who are primarily responsible. Otherwise, why have them regulate at all. It just goes to prove the saying that whatever government touches eventually turns to sh*t.

[@chuckg2016]

That is as a really good piece of flying. 👍👍👍

[@Hatsunari_Kamado]

If you are wondering about the airline's name, this is the early name of Cathay Dragon (later names before the current are Dragonair). The airline are bought by Cathay Pacific in 2006, rebranded into the final name 10 years later, before merged into the main airlines in 2020 due to Covid-19.

[@robstrong8534]

They avoided a Dragon Roll!

[@jaya.0069]

I see what you did! lol

[@markcardwell]

What a captain. Well done to be sure. Scarebus😮

[@uberlpn]

One of those nightmare flights but you wake up ok!

[@jimmyehlschlaeger3624]

New graphics? Just wondering. Either way: well done!

[@andrewk2996]

Thanks Allec for telling the story of Flight 323, and I noticed the Graphics looking better cheers

[@thefastestfox1]

The autopilot disengage sound is going to be my new wake up alarm.

[@davecasey4341]

Can't fault the pilots with uneven braking. They just wanted to get the damn thing stopped.

[@JohnMckeown-dl2cl]

Good job. Excellent breakdown of the flight and problems.

[@trent3872]

Early squad, who else loves this channel? Say it!!!!!

[@Jay-u5e5e]

This was Carter and Lees first adventure before Rush hour 1

[@clarenceli]

In 1994 KA is called Dragonair, and not Cathay Dragon...

[@C-Midori]

I presume Allec was unable to find a livery from the previous branding.

[@jeremypearson6852]

I’m assuming that the crew didn’t realize that the flaps were locked, otherwise they wouldn’t have bothered trying to set them again for the other missed approaches?

[@liamb8644]

Kowloon was determined to maintain its record of no accidents.

[@allenmurray7893]

The flaps should always be at the pilots control, not some computer. Lets go back before automation on airplanes.

[@deepthinker999]

Not going to happen.

[@MorganBrown]

Surprised the pilots didn’t divert after the second go around. Or was there not a less challenging airport nearby? Also, I wonder if a visual inspection of the stuck flaps wasn’t called for?

[@StevenBanks123]

Low fuel

[@andrewwilkinson5220]

There was an incident at the Atlanta airport the other day where an airbus clipped the tail off of a CRJ on the runway. I’d like to know what happened there

[@MrWhipple42]

It appears that the CRJ was stopped well short of the hold short line, something like 40 feet back. (More details may emerge, though.)

[@thatinventionsus]

Another one of those "software trying to be better than humans" mistake. Too much automation.

[@gregorybaker330]

More than likely a CX pilot with many hours,probably l10.11 and new to this aircraft but sure they both landed at Kai Tak many times. Actually a routine approach over Stonecutters then sharp turn on the chequerboard near Kai Long Park. I worked near there and chequerboard still there.

[@byronharano2391]

Why would full flaps cause roll oscillations or a PIO? Too slow air speed? I am asking this before Kuya Allec Ibay video ends. Pilot Allec Ibay.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

They probably should have compensated with more throttle, but there may have been a tailwind component.

[@chik0240]

The livery for Dragon air at that era was wrong!

[@glennhaley7404]

Recounted in his brilliant book Farewell Brave Babylon

[@adammcdonald798]

It seems rather foolish to have a flap setting that can't be altered in flight. What if they had had to divert to another airport after their first go around? All the way with flaps at full extension?

[@dan797]

Great video as always this is one of you’re better cgi. quality. I don’t understand flaps why do they have so many different settings?

[@patriciamariemitchel]

The pilots brought it. 👏 You're not getting me on a plane that says Dragon. I don't care. 👀

[@htos1av]

Still here! Since 7k subs.

[@MichelNey1813]

that was suspense!

[@bradjohnson482]

Whew!! Good work, pilots.

[@maxb4074]

A gust of wind did this?

[@steveconkey7362]

Landing at Kai Tak is the opposite of this. You come in low over buildings, not water.

[@EuroScot2023]

Not if you approach from the water end of the runway. Duh!!

[@7marinamarinaki]

They tried runway 13 but due to the oscillations they requested the opposite runway. Easier approach, rather than a dislocated ils and the checkers boards.

[@initialdae8642]

What sim?

[@JupiterMan12.000]

30 Years ago

[@Randomly_Browsing]

If i see a "first" comments......

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Always a special ed

[@ELCADAROSA]

Report them as Spam.

[@droomkoning3266]

​@@ELCADAROSAwhy🤨

[@Berchol]

You’ll be at least second

[@Randomly_Browsing]

@@Berchol I don't care

[@saggitarius6155]

Thank you again.

[@Kevin_747]

I miss the challenge of Kai Tak.

[@RobertSweet-nw4tm]

Why can’t the pilots unlock the flaps?

[@bradjohnson482]

The reason was explained towards the end.

[@gradnitzersl]

Pilots probably glad that they close down that airport.

[@Cfujianimationstudios]

Is Hong Kong Dragon Air, now Dragon Air?

[@byronharano2391]

And air travel is considered the safest mode of transportation. Until you are on that disaster aircraft. Somehow, that claim matters naught. 😮

[@billyponsonby]

Interesting

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

D R A G O N ✈ 🐲

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Dragon ass airlines

[@gunsaway1]

Airbus sucks. Too many electronics

[@Edward.Cristobal]

Looks like chek lap kok runway

[@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587]

Uncontrollable over Hong Kong | Hong Kong Dragon Airlines Flight 323

[@donnabaardsen5372]

Why are you repeating the title?

[@dr.jiIIaIicecooper2587]

@@donnabaardsen5372 I can't? Does it offend you?

[@ScrewFlanders]

@dr.jillalicecooper She didn't say you couldn't, or that she was offended, she only asked why you would choose to post a comment whose sole purpose is simply to repeat the title, i.e., to state something we obviously already know. I've seen this behavior before and wondered the same thing: what is the point of doing this? Another user (@anandguruji83) does this a lot on Allec's videos as well, going so far as even to reply to his own comment with a repeat of the very same thing. Why do people (yourself included) do this? I'm asking this out of genuine curiosity. If it somehow helps Allec get paid more through KZbin's monetization scheme, then I'm all for it - I might even start doing it myself. But if it doesn't somehow help the content provider (in this case, Allec), then I have to say that in my opinion at least, it's a pretty weird thing to do.

[@byronharano2391]

Hello Kuya Allec.

[@Georg-f5hj]

😂aber über Boeing schimpfen wir 🙄 die Flaps haben sich festgefahren 😂😂

[@deepthinker999]

Did you hear the final explanation about the door plug? The Boeing employee who does that was on vacation and no one was cross trained in his place. Complex plane, simple answer.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

Horrid airplane

[@donnabaardsen5372]

Love your name, lol.

[@joelt4416]

the almighty scarebus strikes again! F that!!

[@hamburgerwithham1956]

Hate to be the guy but Allec u used the wrong…not wrong actually but inaccurate livery. Cathay dragon livery is after Cathay Pacific bought Dragon Air.

[@woofvault]

Pre-2016 Cathay Dragon was called Dragonair, not whatever that name is in the title...

[@markb1764]

Some pilots are not cut out for flying

[@StevenBanks123]

They seemed to be good aviators, but not great aviators.

[@mph1ish]

Obviously these are!

[@lohrtom]

First