Under Trudeau, the civil service has grown twice as fast as Canada’s population

The size of the civil service has exploded during the Trudeau Liberals’ nine years in power: growing more than 43 per cent, even though the country’s population has grown by less than 15 per cent in the same period.
As of March 31, the federal government’s payroll included 367,772 persons, according to data just published by the federal Treasury Board. On March 31, 2015, the last full fiscal year that the Harper Conservatives were in power, the civil service population was 257,034. That’s an average annual growth rate of more than 3.6 per cent per year or double Canada’s average annual population growth in the same period of about 1.6 per cent.
The civil service grew by more than six per cent in both 2021 and 2023. By comparison, the size of the civil service shrank in each of the last five years the Harper Conservatives were in power.
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[@JJ-bf6dx]

The number of foreign student population (India) is higher than the entire Indigenous population. Let that sink in.

[@dwayne1698]

why does that not surprise me

[@shaunmartin506]

The CRA has 55000 employees for a population of 40M, the US IRS has 94000 employees for a population of 340M. This suggests a CRA employee is only 20% as productive as an IRS employee. We need to raise our hiring standards.

[@thepegger8422]

And yet they still can't answer the phone without making you wait on hold for 15+ minutes and when you do get hold of one of them they can't answer your question correctly anyways. That's some sunny ways!

[@chrthewrestler2301]

cra? they still haven't replied me after 4 months and whenever i called them, the wait time was more than 3 hours. one time i waited for 3 hours, but no one picked up after i waited for 4.5 hours. so there you go.

[@zserbs2326]

CRA is the worst out of all the departments for how much tax fraud is committed in the country along with how poorly regulated most of tax initiatives are in general.

[@charlesward9486]

Service Canada will be Service India before long! As it stands now, you can't understand the "people" working there!

[@Syn_Slater]

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy" -Oscar Wilde

[@edgar-edgarton]

This the the sign of a control freak. Surely there must be some Liberal MPs that can see this.

[@christopherpaulo6818]

55000 employees and I still can’t get anyone on the phone

[@greggreg2263]

I saw Steven Harper in Calgary just three SUVs couldn’t even tell what was going on. I seen Trudeau last year with 35 vehicles and a big circus. 🎪

[@charlesward9486]

His security is only going to grow, given what happened to Trump this past weekend!

[@saxonthegermanshepherd2809]

Women love attention

[@rogera3232]

Canadas more dangrous now than 10 years ago

[@rogera3232]

Canadas more dangerous now than 10 years ago

[@greggreg2263]

@@rogera3232 yes this is 100% true, but I don’t think we have as many bloodthirsty people in this country 🇨🇦 as America does😢

[@13Almoney]

What a train wreck of a government. It's been much more difficult to find pride in being a Canadian these days...

[@timdoctor811]

Sadly true

[@user-vl8iw1666]

What do you mean? There are pride flags everywhere.

[@JackieBillyTom]

Ottawa thinks Canadians serve the govt & not the other way around & thats how they operate

[@zomgoose]

Creating jobs for immigrants. Soon the government will be building public housing with taxpayer money to supply cheap immigrant labour for the corporations.

[@CJT49]

3 million temporary foreign workers in a country of roughly 40 million. The entire population is roughly 7% FOREIGN STUDENTS. That's unacceptable

[@DavidMelvin-ob5dq]

zomgoose, do you know what English grammar is ? Sorry, your immigrant is showing

[@zomgoose]

@@DavidMelvin-ob5dq are you a high school teacher?

[@shawnfoogle920]

We never see Homeless immigrants.... Coincidence?

[@zomgoose]

@@shawnfoogle920 There are homeless migrants living in tent cities. They have also crammed into houses and condos, living in squalor. The rapid population increase has made it much more difficult for Canadians to afford rental shelter. The slowing economy can not keep up with the artificial population growth. Canadians are having problems getting jobs. The unemployment rate is much higher fit migrants. There are migrant panhandlers on the streets. This will be a financial and social burden for Canadians.

[@darrylhubbard931]

Wonder why we're broke?

[@JEdwarrd]

TROLLS of DISINOFRMATION

[@bigpacthatseazye3462]

speak for yourself😂

[@timdoctor811]

@@bigpacthatseazye3462 he is obviously not talking about himself or individuals he’s talking about the country.

[@SaHlGood]

@@timdoctor811 Darry only joined 4 years ago it’s a fishy account

[@EyeSee4.8]

​@SaHlGood Yours is only 2 years old even fishier. Like double the fish.

[@willy4571]

and how many were born in CANADA

[@user-qk9he7se5w]

Zero

[@MrJmpowers]

What a joke! Most of which do sweet F all besides collecting a paycheque and pension.

[@on2thenextthing]

And yet, the service is as horrible as it's ever been if not worse.

[@SaHlGood]

This is a vary fishy account created only 1 year ago

[@shawnfoogle920]

@@SaHlGood ever forget password? Or it randomly changes lol.

[@on2thenextthing]

It's a real account. Nice try though.​@@SaHlGood

[@rickvervoort9536]

Why not, budgets balances themselves?

[@Yuri-z2y]

I got the civil service recently. It was the worst expirience in my life!

[@AR-rg2en]

@FreedaPeeple-dj5fy The profile was created on Jan 1 2024, looks like a fake account to me

[@atg639]

Russian/chinese bot trying to create division

[@XcmxMccqx]

​@@AR-rg2ensome of us make new profiles every 2 months to keep the feds off our backs 😊

[@victorlee2398]

The entire population will 'work' for the federal government. Taxes will need to be 99% to pay for the salaries but everyone will have a safe job.

[@wocookie2277]

But services and wait times for red tape hasn’t decreased?

[@hughjass1044]

And they still can't get anything done!

[@Lexyvil]

Recently, there have been cashiers that do not know what loonies and toonies are.

[@Billy011nb]

Help.. Trudeau has ruined us

[@MoreYouKnow-d8h]

They have been hiring people not from this country as well

[@kapasitorcpt9249]

larger amount of government workers, less public workers = less folks making money that taxes come from. and yes government workers get taxed but their pay comes from taxes since government workers don't generate money.

[@vrwgq3q]

I have indian friends who have been here a 1st and 2nd generations and they HATE the abhorrent misuse of our "immigration" (if you can call it that) programs and policies via options such as TFW, student visas and refugee claimant etc.. Mostly because they come here and have no intention to integrate what-so ever. People need to understand that foreign international students don't intend to return home. Its not like us Canadians going to school abroad... They intend to stay, work and send remittance home and same goes with TFWs from the Philippines whom start having babies to become naturalized citizens as quickly as possible. I've seen and heard rehetoric from the other side, as I've work with some of these "new" immigrants and its like this: 1. They don't feel bad because India was effed over by the same Brits (they consider anything commonwealth, Britain) 2. They know their over populated 3. They call "Canadians" or more specifically "whities" in Punjabi - idiots for all their handouts, which include food banks, social programs and they will take advantage of all of them, because - well they are there for the taking. *NOTE of all immigrants who have been here >10 years, 33% of them are still on some social program. 4. The government here - or more specifically, the "Liberals", whom Sikhs are outspoken to support - they will continue vote for. This is why the Liberals are so so sympathetic to their cause and the liberation of Khalistan. This should NOT be any political party's or representative's public views and even more shamful that its clear they lean on this narrative for votes. It angers me that basically under the cover of Covid, the liberals have crowd-sourced their votes by opening the flood gates to people who come to Canada to take, rather than enrich.

[@deetee9920]

FJT

[@barblc3202]

...and yet, there are still not enough people to serve Canadians - over the last 40 years, we have seen a huge increase in middle and senior managers, but fewer people who actually serve Canadians - it's not the number of public servants, it's the type - and the era of the "generic manager" means there is a high turnover of managers and little continuity which means they don't really understand what is needed, while the beleaguered understaffed front-line workers, who understand what is needed and what works, are the ones that get cut. Perhaps dig into the details of things and not just spew the superficial austerity rhetoric that does not give Canadians a realistic picture of what is actually happening. Whenever the government needs to cut, the first thing everyone points to is the public service, when they are a very tiny part of the budget.

[@Martin-qm2lg]

Government is far too big and expensive. Where does the funding for all these expensive public salaries come from? The taxpayers! Canada is going in the wrong direction. The private sector must be strengthened and grow much more than the public sector. Real, true growth and innovation comes from the private sector. Not government.

[@yepyep2921]

Hope it’s not too late.

[@Martinique_36]

Once again I tried to speak to someone at CRA but instead of the message saying wait time would be up to 2 hours this message said that they couldn’t take any more calls and phone back, I tried three times over 3 hours and got the same message that all the workers were unavailable. Never before this government has trying to speak to an agency or department employee been impossible.

[@charlenem9174]

Government plays an important role in Canadians' lives.

[@andg5194]

They only want to work 2 days a week, of course they have to hire twice the people to do same job.

[@phoenix0110]

The civil servant are “working from home” in Cancun.

[@yepyep2921]

If they are they’ll lose their job. Not allowed to travel abroad with government issued technology.

[@f.f8079]

And where is the value in all these bureaucrats as it still takes hours to get someone on the phone. One way of buying the vote I guess.

[@TomDrum5]

And STILL NOTHING WORKS PROPERLY

[@AlexMcQueen-ce9tz]

People act surprised which is strange and I do not understand why . It is how governments add to the job creation statistics . While the private sector has had to do more with less for the past 3 or 4 decades the governments and public sector do less with more . If you do not create your own wealth you have no common sense in spending it. The mantra is in the public sector you show you need more and your budget is increased DO NOT show a surplus ever , in the private sector you need to show relevance and value to get more No surprise .

[@ladyd3187]

Bobblehead proclaimed that the Lieberals had increased EMPLOYMENT by something ridiculous, like 130%. BUT..those were GOVERNMENT JOBS that we, the taxpayers pay for!! Time to clean house. Get a real job! Go to work every single day of the week! 😱 quit whining about being FORCED into the office 3 days/week. That is not a job, it is a position.

[@deanfournel7532]

Smaller government, smaller salaries, less foreign aid, close the door temporarily on immigration and spend tax dollars in Canada. Sounds like a good start.

[@maryjoan4128]

But...If you cannot hire and promote good people.due to language barriers etc etc...and you cannot fire the non performers ....how do you fix it ..

[@libertyforall5537]

if trump gets to the White House our border in Canada and USA needs more attention,no more excuses that we don’t have enough immigration infrastructure.

[@davidvancamp1055]

Evertime you talk to a particular department you get a different answer everytime you call

[@micap19nerd89]

💯%

[@Sun-Flw]

From NL and they are trying to secure the vote. Let me tell ya its 8 people to one job !

[@rickboer7715]

Worst and most expensive governing EVER.

[@ShaneWenzel]

Smaller government leads to Less spending, Which means lower taxes and Lower inflation. Resulting in better lives for all of us It's not complicated.

[@Dam-a-fence]

What I heard the reporter say is "Harper messed things up, as you're aware and here's how it will be corrected, by growing too big, and slowly, steadily correcting for overburden." Thank you for a welcome dose of reality.

[@fredhinck9685]

Unqualified DEI hires, need consultants to farm out the work.

[@TheGruntski]

The headline is a bit misleading. 43% divided by 15% is a factor of 2.8, which is almost 3. No wonder we are drowning in taxes but have nothing to show for it. No wonder GDP per capita in Canada is abysmal and real affluence is collapsing. Somebody needs to send an email to 'the other Randy' and get to the bottom of this. Maybe we can autocorrect ourselves out of trouble.

[@asuraphreak]

And I still can't anyone on the phone at the office, in a secure manner.

[@naiiago9414]

You'll never get the job as a graduate if you're a millenial and born here... unless you're one of their "friends".

[@DL-ds7xp]

Through out history There are many examples of the welfare state model, where the people were prosperous and happy said no one

[@XcmxMccqx]

Liberal insanity

[@hchalz]

Well, it means Trudeau created many many jobs and grew the Canadian economy. If all Canadians are hired by the Canadian government, we will have full employment

[@zomgoose]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kjw79]

Lolz where do I apply

[@logiczchance101]

do they have to wait in the emergency room anywhere from 8 hours to a full day when they become ill like all other citizens, yes even infants?

[@dominicdurzo8995]

the numbers will balance themselves

[@dangrather1280]

Traitor Trudeau.

[@gw6887]

Call an election Trudeau, I dare you

[@JamesBrunhilde-q7i]

One tragedy is that the government is taking on more and more debt to service this growing workforce. If the growing workforce promoted business growth (& thus higher tax revenues), then yeah! But that is far from the case 😢

[@davidlynes7950]

Kind of like buying votes... hiring votes.

[@boeing637]

And still…no service!!

[@ijg4427]

Should be that those who do not pay their way do not have a say in Nato

[@michaelshih8163]

For every $100 spent on social programs, about $30 is spent on administration, including hiring administrators to decide who are eligible and who are not. This is the reason the federal workforce has dramatically increased. That is why social programs are such a bad idea.

[@leslieross9729]

Federal sevants do not pay federal income tax. They get that money from the government an just hand it back.

[@mikethornton7263]

Dosent suprise me one bit trudeau just like spending OUR TAX DOLLARS ON HIS OWN LITTLE PARTY

[@gordonbullivant8384]

Appalling incompetence

[@AManavian]

We have DEI auditors being hired to track the work of DEI consultants, who are advising full-time unionized DEI fed employees.

[@videomofo]

Government approved discrimination of white people

[@shauncameron8390]

With a growing number of people "in need" and shrinking number people working and producing, how is this sustainable?

[@Aitch-102]

Parasitic lifecycle.

[@AlvinToda-xu2wp]

employment in the govt sector has increased. What people don't know that it is even greater numbers in the private sector. The government has grown the countries way out of the covid recession. It also has people's backs with many new programs. And now it is dealing with the high cost of living to build housing and other initiatives. The countries growth cannot be maintained without more govt programs to manage things.

[@dsbarclayeng1]

The new employment in the private sector is mostly part-time.

[@AlvinToda-xu2wp]

@@dsbarclayeng1 the amazing thing is that even in a recession jobs grew in numbers even if they were part time jobs. And at the same time, wasn't there about six million immigrants and refugees? That's at least six million full time jobs.

[@RickBarnes-c5v]

Trudeau ever could count

[@dougreed736]

Buying votes

[@Casey-qm1nd]

"Cuba of the North"

[@frank5d289]

Home ownership in Cuba is higher than Canada

[@shauncameron8390]

@@frank5d289 LOL. Yet Cuba is a squatter camp masquerading as a country.

[@4xpaul]

Outside of the CRA call centres outsourced to Asia, how many of these employees work for the CRA? Im guessing it’s a lot.

[@MoreYouKnow-d8h]

Fascist love large governments.

[@hectormedina7623]

I heard this about more than a year ago on Michael Campbell's "money talks" podcast. The next government should trim all that extra expenditure and make its agencies and ministries more productive and accountable to their citizens.

[@pismomann]

the lie! Stephen Harper cut the CRA and defunded, the service sucked

[@on2thenextthing]

It still sucks.

[@dsbarclayeng1]

obsessive compulsive disorder: to spend spend spend.

[@krunal7558]

Are they mostly working from home ever since pandemic ended?

[@Some826]

Yes and they are having a fit about maybe having to go back 3 days a week in the fall

[@markskids2030]

That would be at home in India, Lebanon or some other place.

[@vikr403]

@@markskids2030they are not allowed to work outside the country. Educate yourself

[@B.D.F.]

Depends on the person. Sometimes the location is better, but sometimes people stay home because they have family members to take care of, or a disability, or something else that makes it easier to work from home.

[@markskids2030]

@@vikr403 How would anyone know where they are working from if they never have to show up at work?

[@bob-p7x6j]

I used to believe in our great leader, in fact so old and dumb I believed in his father, but now out of my coma, quite literally, and functioning again, I see the need for an immediate election and forget the black faced-drama teacher for good....

[@georgesimon6041]

Stopped taking the brown acid?

[@greghallberg4182]

You scrubbed my comment again 😂😂😂 So much for pipeline pierre and "freedom of speech"" Maybe tort law should be modified? 👍🤚👍

[@lp2623]

never had it better

[@1ABNDT]

Its grown 43%

[@daytonshuflita2201]

I feel like you’re using skewed numbers to make the % look lower. The number is closer to 60% more civil servants

[@sonny9741]

Justin trudeau is a great leader❤❤

[@Lambo6fo]

Cant be mad at him for this one

[@melikgibsson5539]

Trudeau needs more voters....Service Canada looks like India Service in Canada...no more immigrants... we want Canada back ...

[@CommonSense2025]

Is this an ads for Trudeau? Funny how the reporter did not do research on wait time. More employee do not equal to more efficient.

[@Dam-a-fence]

Thank you for that obvious aside that I'd hoped someone would impart. I didn't want to, I'm very glad you did, though I do not approve of the manner in any way at all. No thumb, but thanks.

[@reinhardtkk]

A good way to buy voters

[@very_awake]

Is this supposed to be good news?

[@Tyreseneilli]

Come Live In U.S

[@thefamilyadventure5330]

More civil servents, my buttocks! Why does it take forever to approve citizenship!!

[@MSJ_raptor]

who's randy?

[@SaHlGood]

It seems there’s a lot of fishy commentary’s on here they all seem to be bots

[@bigpacthatseazye3462]

The unemployment rate had also dropped significantly …

[@Pr1ya-Night]

Really?

[@johnvan8956]

But that's his job creation program.

[@gw6887]

FJT