Undercover Raidleading: Blizzard Sabotaged Me?!

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Crossrealm raiding finally opened up recently, and I decided that it was time to take my DK, now named GhoulGranny into mythic. Everything seemed to be going very smoothly, and all the leaks in my UI had been patched - but blizzard apparently had other plans.
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[@Yojimbo808]

The best part of this video is when you help them raid lead. I think that is so cool!

[@enzy6434]

You should do a series like this where you raid lead with 1 random actual mythic guild for 1 full raid every week to help them where they know ahead of time it’s you (not undercover). As an experiment to see like how well good raid leading in mythic can carry. like how it was on Hungering in this video. And release like a montage video of that raid once per week. I’m sure there are a lot of guilds in the 3/10M-7/10M range that would totally be down for that to collaborate with you. Could do like a different guild every week type of thing.

[@arke473]

actual fucking 5head idea

[@simonsramcik5610]

I support this

[@PlaytohWoW]

My guild is down for this 10000%

[@djake1743]

we would love this! we are stuck on council at 6/10M :(

[@craynak]

Hell, I’ll volunteer my guilds 4/10 mythic working on Lady or Xymox mythic, 😉

[@Sov_WoW]

Its actually quite incredible the importance of being a good leader. It's ace the way limit Max not only praises people, but the way he asks people to do tasks "help diamond, please help diamond, please" in a calm way, then finish off with "good". "this is perfect". Constant narration before whats going to happen and what theyre going to do. Then describe what they need to as its happening. Phenomenol display of good leadership, calm temperament and knowledge of the encounter. It's actually changed the way I approach raid leading to try be calmer, narrate a little more often and try to give good remarks when people do well - already seeing improvements. Awesome guy, love the content.

[@Artomoton67]

Watching him flip the switch from kidding around undercover to becoming a serious, calm and collected raid leader was amazing

[@CallistaZM]

its like a master class in raid leading, incredible how you stay so calm and collected and just stream calls

[@ronnyalvarado8116]

This really does show the power of what a proper raid lead can do with a guild. Awesome vid and looking forward to more!

[@bartmiddel8738]

Totally agree

[@karlzone2]

Yeah this is seriously impressive. The callouts are so crisp.

[@manisandhu9358]

I found this really inspiring! Seeing how you communicate whilst raid leading, the effort that you put into praising people. The way you encourage people to work together and help each other can really be heard. Thank you for these videos! It's no surprise why you are worlds first.

[@EdzerZ]

Even though cover was blown early, this feels like the best one yet.

[@echoooTHG]

LMAO that hungering montage was epic

[@zannusx]

I like how this went, so much more enjoyable watching you step in to help out.

[@connorsmith6039]

Update on Waffle House Brawlers, one week later: I’ve been raiding with Waffle House as Brewmaster for the past two(ish) weeks (DK raid lead went to UH). We’ve downed Huntsman twice, and are getting good pulls in on Hungering. Haven’t been able to down it again, but are getting closer each night. I’ve done about 25 pulls with them, should be able to get it next week. Cool to see this video, just thought I’d give a “Where are they now” update. Fun guys, and I’ve enjoyed raiding with them.

[@zoomin9397]

I need an update in dragonflight

[@InglesPilipino]

The grips to save Naniel were godly

[@somebodyelse9696]

I loved this. I know it’s just a game but it’s kind of inspiring. The teamwork, leadership etc. Limit Max... reinforcing the community. One guild at a time.

[@Xiphcreature]

Just wanted to say whoever has been doing the editing for your videos has been doing a fantastic job. Everything's been super clean and concise, and the bits they've added in have been hilarious. 👍

[@alexbikru]

This is great. A perfect example of how a person who knows exactly what the hell is going on and what needs to be done can help a group of people succeed. So cool.

[@Humance]

This format is way cooler than just pick a name and roasting ppl for bad decisions, imho.

[@rudlw7937]

Very much agree. This is far better content than attempting to be "undercover", which inevitably gets exposed and ruined. A World First raid leader helping struggling teams improve and kill bosses is so much more interesting to watch.

[@kartongh77]

yeah ngl, the other videos had always casually bullying in them. stop that childish BS, you represent something, or is your whole orga trashtalking like that ? inb4 is jus a joke. ye buddy sure

[@eykay1099]

LOVE IT !!!!!!!

[@crowdcontrol3144]

nah the shittalk is funny and people dont take it to heart, fell asleep watching this one

[@user-tw3es7gc7u]

@@kartongh77 you need to relax a lot

[@Bublo_]

the last 10 minutes of this deserves its own vid

[@JanLie]

Love the content, Max! You are the best! We have been struggling on Hungering for a couple weeks, and studying your raid leading, calls, and placements got us through it tonight. After weeks of 50% wipes, we started off with 15%, had a couple 2% wipes and finally got him on the last pull. Keep it coming!

[@Loki19810310]

Best vid yet. The undercover stuff is fun and all, but it is when you activly raidlead that these vids shine the most. So cool to see what a well reas RL can do for his/her guild. It inspires all the thousands of RL out there to be better. It did for me atleast

[@Jeckkz]

What a fantastic thing that you're doing with this Max. Great content and its helping lots of guilds with their prog. Awesome shit mate !!

[@DW-lx9wt]

That was so nice of you doing that. It just goes to show how valuable expert raid leading is.

[@Zee-zl9bd]

I honestly really respect you for still helping them out even tho your cover got blown and still being respectfull after a full whipes on huntsman and hungering,im 3/10 so i know what its like to whipe on hungering myself,goodjob dude

[@SamzehGFX]

great video, editing & format here, seeing you help guilds kill bosses really shows off the affects good raid leading has

[@r_e046]

Dude this was such a good watch, love the format!

[@jaklawrence4301]

Ghou... Ghou... Ghoul.... slayer I could see the cogs turning dude xD My guild took a total of about 60 pulls to kill hungering - more than shriek, huntsman and inerva combined!

[@JustinHixson]

This has been my favorite undercover raid lead yet, by far.

[@Skellewave]

edge of my seat! fk undercover, these lil flowers bloomed with an experienced RL! GGs

[@MrDean-zz2se]

Amazing series.... I think next to preach you'll be my favorite WoW content maker. I am bingeing all of your stuff. Please don't stop making videos!!

[@Khrayer]

Thanks for helping us out! Big appreciate 😁

[@ero9685]

So nice to see another one of these out yay!

[@kayleedavis3380]

Big fan of this video Max, good editing and keeping a perfect balance of fun/entertaining and like actually wholesome gameplay.

[@pezhmanghafori5145]

gj man ggz do it more often its soo fun to see you raid leading random ppl . acuatly its more fun then that undercover thing its like soo cool to watch i dont know why really best of luck dude love yoa

[@derekh9935]

this was surprisingly wholesome. Awesome, man. Honestly, better content than watching people struggle anonymously.

[@seifyk]

You have to log in to a different character when you "log out" to actually log the character out for a new session.

[@johnjones4019]

Can’t wait for these series to return. I literally only pvp but these vids are so fun.

[@fike98cofi]

You're Thundercraig even in the log of the kill :')

[@Cozy_with_SerenityStorm]

Had to come as soon as I seen the notice.

[@aufkeinsten7883]

Honestly I'd love for you to try and actually raid lead some guilds to boss kills they've never had before like you did towards the end, I don't really get a kick out of the undercover-thing, it seems to be too hard to make it work

[@CommonJ676]

Hé already does this

[@SumerSraih]

fun and engaging content to watch, thank you for making this video and I hope to see more undercover raidleading in the future

[@Loupcar]

Nice content, hope to see more of those in the future !

[@biffii5568]

Tbh, finding guilds that struggle and helping them out is so entertaining to watch. Would be great if you could somehow do this undercover but the reality is that it probably is nevet possible. More Adopt a mythic guild content!!!!!

[@jvisualee]

easily my favourite series you make. keep em coming

[@shiver1978]

i love these undercover vids. Once i watched one im looking forward to the next.

[@hansfriedemann4194]

Such great content mate, love it.

[@belinda61]

I love this content so, so much! Well done!

[@Will-hs1yd]

these videos show the magnitude and importance of good raid leading. well done

[@backpackheiko6440]

i love this series, keep it up

[@greenya84]

Awesome raid leading. Keep up good work!

[@totalscrub1960]

ned thundercraig's mog for every dk. honest to god it's beautiful. every DK should be pandaren. with that look. you'll literally never not be able to tell where the DK is. serious note though i feel like what you're doing for the community is far more than what method has ever done in the past when they were dominant, far more than what blizzard could do in ten years. wow's retention problem could be solved if everyone up on the top of the food chain was more like you man.

[@karahtar]

Almost software engineer here: The reason his name change didn't apply instantly goes a LONG way explaining how Blizzard servers work. My theory is that their servers are AP (they prioritize availability and partition - fault tolerance). See, there's this theorem called the CAP Theorem that states that you can't be consistent, available 24/7 and partitioned at the same time. Which makes sense, if you think about it. If you have separated nodes that replicate the data, you're protected from completely losing all your data in case one of the nodes stops working. But that also means you have to be updating all the nodes all the time. Here you're faced with a choice: Option A: you temporarely "shut down" until every data node has the last version of the data Option B: you accept the fact that you might be responding "old" data but you always answer In Max's case, Blizzard is showing him the new name Ghoulgranny (new data) but the character still has the old name Thundercraig in other nodes 18:42, so the people in his raid still see him with the old name (old data). Something similar happens with server transfers, if you've ever noticed. Very interesting shit. P.S.: I love this series

[@_Travey]

A good vs okay raid leader is like a night and day difference. Great vid

[@Unvoicedi]

This is really cool Max!

[@Creepjacker]

Any plans to do a SLG guide? Your guides for the previous bosses have helped my guild so much, hoping to see one soon since we just got to it this week!

[@iAnnanass]

i love this series so much

[@typharian9281]

Amazing. Love this series I don't even raid either...

[@Gunship888]

I liked the 28 days later music during hungering 👌🏻 very hectic vibe with it

[@coloraveo]

I love content creator Max! Please keep making videos!

[@taylorlukes4810]

My favorite part of the video. "Yeah man sounds good, I mean I like watched your video sooo..." lol

[@josephpoole3942]

Castle Nathria is the first raid I can say I miss in quite some time. Just awesome fights imo especially Sire. 🌟 your vanity will cost you everything 🌟

[@Lucero0709]

Thundercraig lives forever

[@fxsurfer]

"Hasn't updated yet " Omg I lol'd so much

[@JohnDoe-zh6cp]

This was awesome man. I think the way going forward is definitely stay undercover in mythic and then help out when they're struggling or you're blown. The heroic undercovers were cool but it's definitely way more satisfying to see you lead a team to victory when they otherwise wouldn't have had a chance without your lead. Also probably more comfortable for you because I can tell you're worried about seeming douchey or stealing the raid leader's thunder by stepping in on heroic/normal.

[@Cozy_with_SerenityStorm]

I want to sleep the way your dogs sleep and in the background.

[@ila2254]

The importance of a solid RL. Impressive to watch.

[@thechartech]

Love this series wish it would come back

[@k4f]

This was fucking epic! Your best video imo.

[@bobbob-iq8yn]

Great vid! What was the first song playing during the final pull of Hungering?

[@scrummpybear]

This is the reason it takes time to kill... a lot of the time the leader is planning and learning them selves max enables them to just blast, so clutch

[@ino145]

Ohhh, undercover video, I'm a day late, what. Damn KZbin, let's watch, no sleep yet it seems. :D

[@Cronky1]

Unholy dk lore name: Ghoulash

[@reaperish]

I think there is space for a happy medium between full undercover and taking over raid leading like a lot of people are suggesting. I definitely love the undercover aspect and I think it is good to keep that. Maybe instead of getting rid of the undercover entirely, drop more hints/advice to the RL when there are some slight struggles. Only take over when you are fully exposed or when the group is in danger of falling apart. I think that would be a good compromise without getting rid of the whole idea of this series

[@kerstins2393]

actually enjoyed this one a bit more then the others ... also could be a great guide for raidleaders out there to see what they can watch for on bosses like calls etc ... =) still the name change thing is weird and blizzard should definitly look into it ..

[@chazjackson-ahealthfitness2611]

I love this content!

[@WhiteWolves.]

Nice :)

[@mekhanite351]

Love this stuff

[@MissMarvel_]

Hungering took us like 60 pulls. 8 pulls is insane, really good raid leading.

[@Zomgkaboozle]

IM HERE FOR MY FAVORITE SERIES ON KZbin

[@Zutraxi]

Moving to markers in phase one for sin seekers is a common thing for some. They want every phase to be close to all others as possible..

[@engcrantzz]

yeah more videos where you raidlead like the undercover 2 but this was new and i likte it a bit more :D so more if this plz :)

[@DenailX]

Max: Move the boss, move the boss, move the boss Tank doesnt move the boss Max: Good

[@ceomusic7]

I read this as it happened lol

[@zaonis4209]

Good Job Max :D Very Wholesome

[@pandab13r]

I saw chat suggesting "deadshade" and that, unironicly, was my first DKs name....

[@Orizzy4]

WoW so cool!

[@Xanten7]

This was wonderful

[@givemeurhats]

The name change doesn't take effect for other people until they log out and back in. So the best way to go incognito would be to either transfer a character to another account (so they can't see your io) or to do the name change almost a full 24 hours ahead of time.

[@cg-yv3hn]

These videos are great

[@tomasjastrumskis2116]

Maximus limitus told us to watch this. APE follow command

[@thedefcalyon5474]

is there a video about your UI ? I want to see what you are using besides regular ElvUI . . .

[@Endbringer534]

I thought of a better tactic, that worked for us on hungering, and we were able to pull it off quite nicely after that. Give the people with miasma the task of leeching, so that you dont have to call out the leeching at all, while people without miasma are just standing on the markers. Miasmas have the responsibility to take care of their HP and not overleech, everybody else will then just be free to dps/heal. When resetting the stacks during consume, people only move into their markers once they drop their stacks.

[@bmarcy86]

most troll AMZ i've ever seen @5:15

[@justinstaton6982]

Anyone got a list of the adons he uses. I've used my old ui for ever snd wanna change it up

[@nenadtakac444]

Do you want to come undercover RL out Sire progress? You can sound like Deckard Cain the whole progression

[@7upecb]

What is the weekaura for consumables?

[@brettpatrickmueller]

great content

[@danielalbrigtsen5282]

Stay a while and listen - Deckard Kane

[@scofozo]

max raid led a pug through hungering...

[@Sacred_Silence]

2:40 Yes, you sounded almost exactly like Deckard Cain lmao

[@shugo66]

What is the outro song? really like the chill vibes

[@pezhmanghafori5145]

if you agree that he most do more leading like random raids spam it . its not just fun but its help ppl tho helps alot . i even with my any geared charecter like to do it with you and help man

[@Zynnlol]

Back in WotLK, i name changed from my alt Warrior from Casualqt to Imacasual and the game got bugged out and on my char info it show "Backupdata" but everyone else saw me as Imacasual. Nice game

[@Baddnight]

Max sent me here