UnderQuilt VS Sleeping Pad ▪ Hammock Tips

[@BackcountryExposure]

I’ve been a ground dweller all my outdoor life, but bought my first underquilt couple weeks ago. Excited to put it to use.

[@TripSmith]

Oh cool! You're going to love it (once you get it tweaked correctly which sometimes is the first try and sometimes it can take little fiddling) Have fun!

[@مغتصبطفل-م5ض]

How did it go ?

[@jawjuk]

Super-useful! Quilt seems to be the way.

[@MrSpectastic]

what about double layered hammocks for pads? those are a lot easier to work with, right?

[@TripSmith]

Yes, they should hold the pad better, but still you need to check and see if the pad makes you sweat ;)

[@sydneylee823]

Thanks for the helpful insight

[@tfarr9]

Just bought an underquilt from UGQ! They have draft collars on them which help prevent wind from sneaking in!

[@TripSmith]

Just checked them out, good stuff! Yep, I'm looking at one with a draft collar for my next one as I've have cold sneak in on my from time to time.....

[@АлексейБолдырев-о8ь]

I became a hammock hiker this year, so i tried to use my inflating pad, self-inflating pad and a foam pad first. And i got that sweat/condensation trouble as well. Now i'm ordering the Subito underquilt from Aliexpress for 28$...

[@TripSmith]

There ya go. Hope you enjoy it!

[@injest100]

Did you order the Subito quilt? What is the weight and what temp is it good for?

[@АлексейБолдырев-о8ь]

@@injest100 i'm testing it the day after tomorrow for the first time.

[@АлексейБолдырев-о8ь]

@@injest100 well, it's definitely fine for +10 C

[@ahilbilyredneksopinion]

Good ta know now I'll git the cheapest pad I can.only want it fer non quilt loungin n e ways. Sumtimes I don't like ta drag out the quilts ta lounge,but it's 2 cold ta just hang......thanks.

[@ProbablyStonedComments]

As long as you block the wind from passing under your hammock you can do without both. Tarp and a fire is all you need. Whiskey is cheaper than an underquilt. lol

[@TripSmith]

I've thought about that Duane and wanted to try something like that. Maybe a poncho or something under the hammock? I don't really think I'd enjoy having to get up and keep a fire going all night though.... True, Whiskey is cheaper lol

[@artistabigailmarie]

not if your a girl... :( Always cold.. Always cold...

[@handicamper101]

whisky and beer is cheaper, just make sure you got that Gatorade bottle to pee in so you dont have to get up and mess up tat warm spot,..lol

[@glendabaghian1145]

Not the whiskies I drink.

[@sip5574]

Need permission to light fires in England, so if wild camping some kind of insulation is essential.

[@bsodcrasher974]

what if you use a sleeping bag without anything else? or like these cocoon type sleeping bags that you can wrap around your hammock

[@TripSmith]

A sleeping bag inside the hammock would compress all the way under your body and not be providing any insulation. I haven't used the ones that wrap around.... I'm skeptical about them.

[@galenpatchett3560]

I've never tried an underquilt except for a failed attempt with my old sleeping bag haha. But underquilt do seem better imo.

[@TripSmith]

+Galen Patchett Yea.... you should try to borrow one if you can. It's nice.....

[@galenpatchett3560]

Trip Smith For sure, I'll have to keep my eyes open for a sale too.

[@wolf1963bro]

what about the Klimat hammock pad

[@TripSmith]

I haven't tried it Ed, but I've certainly seen it. It looks good having the sides on it so you don't get cold arms and it would probably stay under you better. I'd still be concerned about sweating and the sweat getting stuck between me and pad like what happened with my inflatable and foam pads..... I'd be happy to give it a try though if I ever had the opportunity.

[@ninjasrose1653]

Went out on my first solo last night. Used the Z-Lite. Never again! Too many problems to list!

[@glendabaghian1145]

Have you ever tried a reflective emergency thermal blanket / gold foil under a sleeping bag instead of an underquilt in 45-50 deg. weather?

[@glendabaghian1145]

Looking for a lighter setup than a double hammock with an inflatable sleep pad or more challenging underquilt hang that's useless if sleeping on a shelter floor. Thanks for your reply.

[@TripSmith]

I haven't, mostly because I understand it's not the best solution. People have tried it and...... well it doesn't work very well and it still traps all the moisture (if you can get it to seal on the edges). Underquilts are the standard for a reason I think.

[@glendabaghian1145]

Yup, the emergency mylar blanket failed for heat and didn't want to refold mylar in the morning.

[@wdawson5440]

My kids prefer to hammock with a Coghlan’s emergency blanket in lieu of an underquilt. It traps mega heat and works well down to -15C.

[@drdeadbeat1604]

Do the foam pads lose their shape or tear if you use them in the hammock?

[@TripSmith]

I don't think so, should be good to go in that regard.

[@IMCRUSH]

Suuper helpful video! Thanks!

[@TripSmith]

You're welcome!

[@masterprediction7353]

I use a thermal tarp, you can put it around the bottom of the hammock or lay it in the hammock. You would be surprised how warm a thermal tarp is.

[@TripSmith]

Cool! I need to give it a test.

[@nuclearoutdoorscampingtips5850]

Good video trip.......people are better for your input!!!!!

[@TripSmith]

Thanks Bud!

[@nuclearoutdoorscampingtips5850]

My big Agnes q core is amazing....4" thick, and sleeps amazing......it's as good as home

[@TripSmith]

Wow, sounds pretty good!

[@stevenhess5616]

Where the heck did you find a MARPAT hammock? 🤯

[@TripSmith]

Bought the fabric from RipStopByTheRoll and sewed it myself 🤙🏼

[@Marxone]

This underquilt looks very shitty and easy to make at home. Great inspiration for me :) Time to get to my sewing machine and upgrade my kit.

[@TripSmith]

Haha yea that is a very basic one ;) I have a nicer one now that would be tough for my sewing skills to recreate. Hope your's comes out nice!

[@PhoenixGenesis]

A Costco down quilt is only $20, not expensive. I'm seam ripping mine to make it even warmer. Peace.

[@TripSmith]

Yea, I'd like to try that I think although I justhaven't because I'm lazy? I have one of those I use at times for a top quilt and they are pretty nice.

[@PhoenixGenesis]

Trip Smith I took my $40 40F Walmart poly bag and slipped my hammock inside it as there is a tiny opening in the foot box. This allowed it to be both top and bottom quilt at under 2 lbs. I then added a silver Mylar bubble wrap car sun shade under me and tucked the Costco down throw inside the sleeping bag. Used a small fleece blanket to block out cold around my neck that also worked as a pillow. I was toasty at 40F in shorts and T-shirt. I think the wonderful thing about my new hammock is how versatile it is. There are so many ways to stay warm and dry. And with the modular parts, if something breaks, it is easy to replace or substitute. If one's expensive tent fails, it can quickly end a hike.

[@ysf-psfx]

@@PhoenixGenesis Are you on HammockForums.net? They would love your ideas there, methinks :)

[@dawnf6796]

Explain

[@tlaw5264]

laying on a plastic sheet makes you sweat less than a foam pad or an flock coverd inflatable pad ? realy ?????

[@TripSmith]

I wouldn't call an underquilt a plastic sheet. It's very breathable compared to foam or an inflatable pad in my experience.

[@aikirunner]

Why would you sweat more in a hammock with a pad? When I’m on the ground with my pad, I don’t get sweaty.

[@natesiegwart1264]

​@@aikirunnerbecause you are Taco wrapped.

[@SlanderMan.]

hmmm I usually just use both...

[@TripSmith]

That'll do it lol

[@mesoamericaazlan]

It really bothers me when people do a review or VS when they are useing the wrong equipment! There are pads that are designed for hammocks. I'm a big guy and never get sweaty!

[@TripSmith]

Hmmmm, well I think most pads are created with the same design flaw that the one I was using would have. That's not being breathable, which for me is no fun.

[@nuclearoutdoorscampingtips5850]

Those z lite pads are great for a million things.....sleeping ...kneeling to cut wood.....sitting by the fire....a mat to stand on changing your clothes....I never leave mine at home

[@TripSmith]

I brought mine along when I first started backpacking. It worked for sure, but just wasnt as comfortable as I was hoping it would be. Well, I guess I never really had high hopes for it really. I don't think many people look at it and say "man, that think looks comfy!!!!" lol

[@glendabaghian1145]

Regular or short size?

[@JohnSmith-xh9xi]

Take a shot of your preferred spirit whenever he says pad

[@TripSmith]

Sounds like a rough game...

[@darryllzwiers7257]

Put your pad inside the sleeping bag

[@TripSmith]

Might be a good thing to try... Thanks for the idea!

[@briankilmury6556]

Don't take advice from any man who wares crooks

[@TripSmith]

lol or any man who can't spell "wear" or "crocs"

[@circedge]

Wha-what? The pad goes on the ground. Well hey, if you want to rest in a hammock with a clunky pad that's fine but you could just use a poncho liner. Oh wait this is just a plug for underquilts.

[@TripSmith]

hehe I agree with ya!

[@stephenmassey5112]

You turning into a sales pitcher guy. Get back to basics Kayaking.

[@TripSmith]

Sorry Stephen, not trying to come across as that at all nor am I trying to sell any particular product for a particular brand. I'm not sponsored by any company and I've actually turned down financial sponsorships in order to keep the channel "true" like I'd like it be. I get most every video I make is based off of a question that a viewers have asked me in the past so I figure why not address them in a video. I'll always be paddling and kayaking and promoting camping along with it. So I've been directing my video topics towards camping here lately as that's 50% of the adventure and probably more of an unknown for people that actual kayaking is. Not sure when I'll be kayaking again as I don't have a trip planned at the moment but I do have an overnight camping trip planned for next week. Don't worry though, the water is my ultimate passion so there will always be another kayaking video 🙃👊✌

[@stephenmassey5112]

SailingandSuch thanks for your reply. Your videos are an inspiration to me to get out there and try it. My comment was out of hand. I appreciate what you doing.

[@TripSmith]

You're welcome bud. Nah, not out of hand. That was the impression you got from the video and I'm glad you let me know. I certainly don't want to come across as another guy on KZbin trying to sell products to get sponsorships. So I appreciate the comment and it just lets me know I need to be a little more careful how I present things. Thanks for watching and commenting!