Understanding COPPA

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*Lesson Of The Day:* Animation isn't just a genre, it's a medium and it's pure art form. _While COPPA tried to sabotage the KZbin animation, cringe "kids videos" got away with it._

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Well yeah... Honestly Mr. Friendship I was going to say something but as of now I don't have words to describe it for now from all of... THIS...

[@belyayevsfox4753]

Newgrounds has become more of a haven for content creators than KZbin or other sites in general. The endless demand for more revenue from wealthy shareholders has become detrimental to small content creators.

[@Bowling4986]

@@belyayevsfox4753 There we go then, just move to newgrounds dammit.

[@DarkSpyro707]

@@Bowling4986 People go about making money off youtube the wrong way. Most successful youtuber dont just sit and wait for a paycheck from daddy youtube. Most people who are big and making money doing this did it by building a brand. They make merchandise to sell, crowdfund, doing sponsers. The lesson is that they open up more ways to earn revenue than ad sense. The people who were dumb enough to only depend on ad sense set themselves up for failure and were never good entrepreneurs to begin with. They dont have to quit youtube and "get a real job", they just need to branch out and open the doors to more ways of making money. A lot of the successful youtubers could have their whole channels deleted and still live comfortably. Thats because they did it right.

[@DarkSpyro707]

Yea, animations is going to get fucked pretty hard by this, and not even mentioning demonetization. We're talking channel deletion. Now that "animation" is considered "targeted to children", anything thats 2d falls under this new stipulation. So now it doesnt matter if you're Cyanide and Happiness, Happy Tree Friends, or Hazbin Hotel, to youtube you appeal to children because "ooo look at the pretty pictures!" It makes me wonder if even using channel avatars in videos count too? Cause a lot of creators in this space like to use their avatars in their vids and that could be seen as "appealing to children".

[@Daitomodachi]

Not gonna lie, I've been in that "scared shitless" camp, but seeing you calmly talk about COPPA gives me a bit of assurance to continue what I'm doing on the platform. Still pissed and annoyed about KZbin screwing content creators over, but at least this isn't the worst of it.

[@mattwo7]

Tell the FTC other people's kids aren't your responsibility www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001

[@abriel3016]

Daitomodachi I agree. Since he’s explaining this and what the law does. It doesn’t seem as bad. I also learned that this law has been around for a decade and KZbin has just been ignoring it.

[@pants1403]

why does your name look like that

[@GreenQueen69420]

How do I like a comment harder than ever before? Because that's what I want to do, my good sir

[@omiorahman6283]

i am worried too

[@InkblotHyena]

KZbin: Knowingly breaks the laws. KZbin: Gets sued. KZbin: "Content creators are gonna pay for this!" _Thanks, Susan._

[@michaelaburns734]

YOU JUST LIT A KEG!

[@VerdeMorte]

@@michaelaburns734 There's a V for Vendetta quote out there for that phrase...

[@TheNintendochannel64]

I fucking hate Susan, she needs to be fired asap

[@andykishore]

KZbin got sued in 2007 over copyright infringement.

[@SpartanDash.]

Inkblot Games this isn’t Susan’s fault. This has been going on for years now

[@nukiradio]

KZbin: "everything has to be child friendly" Also KZbin: "you must be 13 or older, no children allowed"

[@IvanovIvanAKrutoi]

Let me rephrase that: "Everything has to be child friendly, but you must be 13 or older to make and manage your account".

[@atlantahunter4401]

Great Summary!

[@unknownguy1287]

people can lie about their birth date

[@IGSA101]

@@unknownguy1287 Not to the government, so long as they have birth records.

[@unknownguy1287]

@@IGSA101 oh i know about that i was just saying that children can lie about their age to bypass the 13 years and older thing

[@wanderinghuntress8645]

I almost thought that disclaimer was a joke, this situation is crazy

[@andykishore]

Yet, people called the "disturbing" content warning a joke from the old days of TheMysteriousMrEnter.

[@finngeometry7570]

It is. Also cool pfp, you have my respect

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

A lot of channels started that disclaimer, don't know if it really matters though. It's all about what the 3rd party review board/auto bot system thinks of your video. Kind of why a few creators are also uploading a few clips out of horror movies and such just to "age up their video".

[@LoafOfBreadProductions]

Nice Profile pic!

[@alexkontonasakis1770]

Ya INR it's very serious

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

Can’t wait for KZbin rewind to act like none of This is happening

[@clayxros576]

@@bracket-neutron They also ignore the people who built it and keep it alive now. At this point they're digging their own grave

[@vamrack8344]

Lmao

[@thejman5683]

AS If anyone will watch it anyway (Also i keep get notifications on a comment i deleted on this post for some reason)

[@Blueflag04]

As if there will be another rewind

[@pleasedontwatchthischannel8216]

Rewind is kinda dumb.

[@hypn00s197]

*Start watching video, wild disclaimer appears Holy ****, this is serious

[@goofybutserious4807]

LOL

[@andykishore]

TheMysteriousMrEnter has had disclaimers in several of his older videos such as disturbing content.

[@originaluseername]

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[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

I really f***** hate when people f****** censure f****** swear words.

[@therealcharmander738]

Sad thing is that even with an in video disclaimer it doesn't matter to COPPA. The video was already clicked on.

[@tryblight]

So basically, KZbin waited a long time to confess their screwups, now all the content creators are forced to suffer and take blame for KZbin's own screwups, and these new harsh laws are being put in place that can destroy creator's whole careers. EDIT: Thank you for your positivity at the end there, small light in this entirely dark and terrible situation.

[@mattwo7]

At least the FTC is open to comment, go tell them other people's kids aren't your responsibility www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001

[@najadamu2724]

Essentially, the big wigs at KZbin couldn't give less of a shit about their content creators. They don't respect them, despite contributing to their wallets. So it's every man/woman/robot for themselves, at the end of the day. No wonder so many KZbinrs are doing sponsorships for Raid Legends or a VPN or whatever, or creating merch, or starting up a Patreon. I can't blame them for adapting, if they wanna survive on this platform.

[@ashkitt7719]

Seems about right for corporations. They do the "right" thing a lot of the time but always too late.

[@cadejust6777]

@@ashkitt7719 I See So Its The Bullshit Please Think Of Children Argument That Justiefies This Thing Called COPPA Im Sorry But I Thought Parents Were Responsible For There Children Not The Governments?.

[@BugsyFoga]

Every time I see parent's let's their little kids watch those disturbing kid videos (like elsa and Spiderman) I feel pretty damn disgusted that they don't know what they've gotten their kids into .

[@jeremyneil1125]

Content like that is why kids are killing each other

[@calebpribyl5152]

Just thinking about these just make me feel nauseous REALLY badly because I would like to make animation on KZbin for kids and grownups but I’m afraid all that blood sweat and tears put into animation would just be killed by KZbin

[@calebpribyl5152]

Thanks,that’s all I needed to hear it made me feel better THIS is the reason why we needed KZbin for not for this Spider-Man Elsa 🤢 garbage kids should deserve better than this!

[@OctaviousNight]

I work at a grocery store and I see that shit WAY too much

[@TheJiacheng123]

Every now and then when I visit a relative with toddlers, there is a good chance they are watching those kind of stuff. It makes me more disgusted towards the channels that do these, but hey so did Dora and Calilou back in the day. Those were also derided and at this rate it seems it will only get worse.

[@baron_von_brunk]

As someone whose channel is geared towards a children's toy brand, I've always tailored my content towards a general audience to cater to viewers who are either adult fans of LEGO or regular children who play with the toys. Now with this whole COPPA controversy and paranoia about getting fines, I'm going to make my content a little less kid-friendly and instead focus on edgier and more graphic LEGO content. Unfortunately, other LEGO channels might suffer since they do toy reviews or brickfilm animations for children. I guess the silver lining to this is that now I can finally be the real me and make my animations less sanitized. EDIT: it's official - Google blacklisted any search results for my LEGO Shrek video. Whether this was done automatically or willfully through malice to target my channel, I'll never know - for now.

[@rotundmonibuv5103]

bruh moment

[@geekbro6265]

The main problem I’ve been seeing is that they could still fine you if they feel like it, simply because LEGO is technically a toy brand aimed at children, and if you’re being monetized you can risk loosing it, it’s practically a no win situation

[@baron_von_brunk]

@@geekbro6265 That's what still worries me. I've already noticed that they're forcing me to check off in my new uploads a box that specifies whether or not my video is in fact geared towards children. I'm hoping I can plead me case and appeal any fines, but I'm not optimistic for this machine learning and algorithms.

[@clydejackson5188]

@@baron_von_brunk welp i'm praying for you

[@TheGoldenDunsparce]

Why do you need to be "edgy" when you can continue what you're doing and just say it's not geared toward children? If you're not talking like the dude from Blue's Clues and using 5 year old vocabulary, and are actually talking like a normal human and not being cringy, your channel isn't geared toward children...

[@ConnorTheUndying]

Hey, Mr. Enter. Followed you for a while now. Thank you so much for this video. I actually suffer from high-functioning Autism and anxiety. So you making this video and explaining how this is gonna work in a mostly calm, collected way really helped calm my anxiety. Thank you.

[@feralchangeling97]

Same here, lots of people making it sound like a pastime is gonna go extinct.

[@shonnaa7117]

I too have Autism and watching this is much more helpful than the others.😌

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

This is calming me down a lot. Also I no know it is better to add a disclaimer at the beginning.

[@Blueflag04]

I almost got panic attack but got relieved for this video

[@aethertoast4320]

The fact that KZbin is pouring its punishment for breaking the law onto others is something that I hadn't thought about before. Makes this worse.

[@dogryme6]

Yeah, it's stupid. A company dumping responsibility for breaking the rules onto it's users? Reprehensible.

[@rynnzii]

KZbin is really tumbling down the spiked hill these days. Hurts to stare at the fire :/

[@LouieMeekin]

Rynn it’s not a fire,it’s already charred,but it just keeps going,slowly decomposing on its way down.

[@dahzebear6920]

Yeah like Markiplier's ban problems, moderation team, their automated system, now being sued 170M$ from COPPA. As well as lots of KZbinrs now leaving due to KZbins revisions on their rules due to prevent violating the COPPA act again. KZbin is really struggling right now and might be the end of it. If youtube were to die out, then the internet would lose a lot of interactions and knowledge that would be informed to them on KZbin. The internet would feel very stranded without KZbin and its up to one of us to save it while we can. This could be considered one of those cases where its like "KZbin v. The COPPA Act". If this act does go through, for sure it will be in the history books thats what i can tell ya.

[@gatorgamer1013]

Don’t stare to long you might want to make Spider-Man and Elsa videos if u do

[@Ze_eT]

KZbin has burned down exactly when Google bought it. I would love to finally be able to change.

[@makutas-v261]

It will only die when we decide it dies until now everyone's a pussy and nobody wants to move out the day we stop being pussies it's over for youtube.

[@hubguy]

Disclaimer: Kids shouldn’t be on here anyway so why is all this happening?

[@phatmartyplays332]

Because parents just give their kids a tablet and walk away

[@toontastic5]

Kids lie about their age all the time online.

[@jeanthemilitaryhistorianbr1243]

In my opinion. Kids shouldn't even be allowed online no matter what their looking at without adult supervision.

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

@@phatmartyplays332 I was in a Shopko (I think. It was a store that shut down earlier this year. I was there on one of the last few days for "sales.") and there was a couple with a toddler watching the same damn finger puppet video over and over again on full volume. (He somehow figured out how to repeat the video.) I'm annoyed that these parents had no sense of manners (just letting that shit blast through the entire store practically) but I'm also impressed that they would rather go through that torture than do some actual parenting. Like... How? I was about to snap after the third time around!

[@clayxros576]

@@CallMeFreakFujiko Laziness is more powerful than annoyance. If you've ever had that alarm sound in the morning but you just let it go in silent frustration cause you cant be bothered, that's what it's like.

[@Triff3599]

Please spread this around, everyone. All content creators, big or small, need to know.

[@AlexSauce]

I need to pay money because i make 13+ gaming vids?

[@darienb1127]

@@AlexSauce try Twitch. It will be different, but livestreaming may just be an alternative.

[@AlexSauce]

@@darienb1127 ik but i heard its really hard to get followers there :(

[@darienb1127]

@Robert Holland Jr. it really depends on how this goes down.

[@darienb1127]

@@AlexSauce it's hard to get followers anywhere my dude. It's just perseverance and luck. Also, if you do Twitch, bring a friend.

[@MrRourk]

All KZbin had to do is tone down the data mining

[@ssj4jason737]

and get rid of Age-Restriction

[@nunouno001]

That’s like asking a bird to tone down the flying or a fish to stop swimming. A lot of data mining is an automatic process that doesn’t discriminate between users and even if it could, all a kid has to do is lie about their age to get past the age restriction.

[@MrRourk]

Well Facebook, TikTok, and 1000 other companies did it. They can do all the mining they want if they get parental permission.

[@JaimeR2D]

Thanks for putting everything into perspective. "What do you do when you can't do nothing... and there's nothin' you can do?" "You do what you can." That exchange from The Boondocks always lifts my spirits when shit gets too trying. Let's do our best moving forward, no matter what.

[@rhondahoward8025]

Ah yeah. Grandad could be a wise teacher sometimes.

[@CHECKthisvid]

rhonda howard RIP John Witherspoon

[@f1champ551]

Damnit, I miss grandad... RIP John Witherspoon

[@autumbreeze1129]

I just hate that we are the ones who have to be careful what little kids will find on KZbin when parents should be doing their damn job in monitoring what their kids watch. We shouldn't have to do your damn jobs when your kids aren't our own!

[@jeremyneil1125]

Preach!

[@LanceGardenia]

Welcome to the boring capitalist dystopia. Is it your first time here? (This is a joke please don't come after me for being rude-)

[@j.c.2240]

KZbin is too lazy to do its job

[@jeremyneil1125]

Sky Comix I’m not saying he’s wrong. Preach basically means you agree with someone

[@guysingerii]

"Who else but KZbin!!!!" (audience laughs and applauds....... but slowly turns into gasp of fear and crying.......)

[@tencents6]

"Everybody Fights KZbin" will be right back... *_HELP!!!!_*

[@crazyluigi6664]

I'd more say audience laughter and applause transitions into a sudden "Aw!" in a manner similar to one of Vinesauce's earliest parodies of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show.

[@mackielunkey2205]

It’s KZbin! It’s KZbin! You never really know what they’re gonna do next! It’s KZbin! KZbin! Giggety giggety giggety Your account will get wrecked! Yeah, that’s my best rhyme, sorry.

[@GladstnJones]

I understand where you're coming from, and I'm really glad to hear the other side of the argument. However, my counter argument about the fines are that when you actually read the descriptions of what will be considered "Child Friendly Content" are so vague and out of touch with the modern world that honestly any normal video aimed towards modern adults can be targeted and fined for no other reason than it had bright colors, or featured toys in some way, or talked about a video game like the Legend of Zelda. KZbin *is* a social media website, however it's also a platform for people to display their creations, earn a living, and have fun. I believe that fining people for doing what they love (specifically talking about animation channels) is wrong and will never be right, and certainly cannot be justified by the fact that the bad apples will get targeted worse.

[@lloydlandrum3040]

Heck the rules shouldn't even be that vague is the first place as there existed animated porn from atleast 1929 and it was made in the U.S its known as ''Eveready Harton in Buried Treasure'' and throughout the years adult animated projects that wasn't porn but still has a X and R rating existing throughout the years after that and never stopped... So the guidelines/rules/depictions have no real excuse to be that vague in the first place

[@alistair4909]

I was honestly thinking about this the whole video after he brought up ChadTronic. While his manic presentation definitely isn’t what we need, his fear of the vagueness of what was defined as “kids content” was the main point of his video and I think it’s 100% valid. I’m sure early on these vague definitions would be taken advantage assuming they aren’t better defined before this goes into effect. if there’s content that really means something to you, it’s probably a good idea to save those videos to a hard drive. I doubt all our favorite KZbin channels will burn to the ground but there will be content and probably great channels that get lost in the shuffle

[@WarMomPT]

Read the actual rules posted by the FTC. They're actually quite specific in terms of how a channel marks itself as being 'for kids'. The FTC's stuff is fine. The problem is that *youtube* posted absolute garbage information. That's what's causing the communication issues.

[@TimiVision1]

I’m most worried about the machine “learning” AI that will be going through all the videos to make sure they’re properly labeled, because KZbin AI systems *definitely* work and aren’t notorious for screwing up or anything

[@GladstnJones]

@@WarMomPT I hope so, and I genuinely hope that this doesn't become hysteria.

[@ryaquaza3offical]

Well this explains why I couldn’t make a KZbin account as a kid, well legally anyway. KZbin has always had questionable practices, such as how they deal with copyright, demonstrations, toxic channels, Bullying in the comment section and KZbin kids as you said. It’s not as bad as Article 13 but still, pretty bad

[@MarkCabaniss]

“Persons under 13 years of age should not watch this video, as they are not allowed to have a KZbin account.” What’s stopping them from watching this video without an account? I’m guessing you have this age-restricted? In all seriousness though, this was very well said, Mr. Enter. The best part was the ending; whatever comes next, I will keep trying, because it’s not the end. “Keep moving forward”, right?

[@potato-rp2bf]

Mark Cabaniss We dont have the option of a 13+ age restriction. That’s something I would love to have. Let me say “I do not want anyone under the age of 13 to watch this”

[@Endershock1678]

I remember when I was like 9 or 10 and didn't click on videos that gave an 18+ warning and you needed an account, and now I forgot about them because I never not use my account.

[@gamingguru2k6]

There are a ton of toy review channels aimed at adult collectors. There are a ton of cartoon review channels aimed at adults. There are a ton of gaming channels aimed at adults. There are a ton of crafting channels aimed at adults. There is no way the FTC could get away with suing/shutting down all those people.

[@michaelaburns734]

They do, it's heading into a KZbin Civil War!

[@andykishore]

Just look at Ryan's Toy Reviews. I would love to see that 9 year old kid dealing with major political issues such as this.

[@briankaslewicz6130]

Some specifically for autistic adults by autistic adults. So for COPPA to step in & say "actually you've been doing this for kids the whole time. Pay us this" has some unfortunate implications

[@daidaika2838]

@@briankaslewicz6130 That's basically me and what I do, but because I play games under an inkling guise for my own comfort, I really don't feel safe with this

[@lapizanders5937]

Doesn't mean they won't try. Somebody has to pay and since it's clearly not KZbin, it's gonna be the ones least likely to have a way to fight back. Maybe it will be actually exploitive people who end up on the sacrificial altar. Who am I kidding, this is gonna just fuck over the little guy ain't it?

[@chJohnJobs]

My biggest problem is what constatutes for aimed at kids. The list is far to vauge and its vaugness effects my animations. If its animated and has say violence, Is it for kids cause animated or what? Also great video

[@corntastrophy]

I feel that. Kids is so vague. Do the kids have to be a certain age? Under 13? Like what?

[@chJohnJobs]

@@corntastrophy it does say 13, I mean vauge as in with the animated characters

[@LordBaldur]

Well here is the good news. In order to get fined by the government, an actual human being has to review the content. Or I could be totally wrong and we handed our justice system out to automation. I'm putting my money on the former.

[@geekbro6265]

Baldur Aviation the problem is how many humans are going to review how many videos and it depends who, if it’s someone who assumes that everything that’s animated is for children than you are screwed anyways

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@@geekbro6265 Which would be interesting to kinda troll them if evidence shows who is reviewing such assumes that so as to prove the people are fools and cause better picking in who decides what as there is quite literally dating back to the 1920's officially made in the U.S animated porn and such products never stopped … You also have X and R rated animated products from back then that keep being made too yes I am not kidding you...

[@1s1up]

The only reason why we are still on KZbin is because KZbin is owned by a big company

[@FireseekerArts]

And that big company is everywhere and we have to use it

[@FilthyWeeb1]

Let's start beating the shit out of the kids.

[@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN]

@@FilthyWeeb1 nah...

[@FilthyWeeb1]

@@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN > while everyone loses their channels because of those little fatherless bastards.

[@VideoGameMasters09]

I don't think KZbin was in any sort of financial trouble when Google bought them. Google saw something they could buy and wooed the previous owners with dollar signs. It would still be around without Google because unlike what KZbin is now, back then it actually was about 'broadcasting yourself'.

[@TurnOfTheTV]

Not gonna lie Mr. Enter, when I watched this video I nearly cried. As someone who has made content on KZbin for 3 years and when I heard all the rumors being spread. I was scared because all the effort I put into my videos would be gone. But then I watch this video, I genuinely appreciate you for speaking up and for helping me and many others realize to stay strong, I may have been nervous in the past, but now in the present and the future I'm hopeful and I am glad you were the KZbinr that inspired me to make content.

[@RudyBlackman]

I agree that COPPA IS NEEDED BUT I SHOULD SAY THAT Technology is not a replacement for being a parent take care of your stinking kids and not have technology do it you are responsible for their formative years act like it

[@andreaslima2213]

So COPPA is pretty much a necessary evil?

[@RudyBlackman]

Andreas Lima Sadly

[@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN]

Hey, at least the kids won't see any disturbing stuff on the internet & SM right?... (:D

[@mattwo7]

Be sure to complain to the FTC www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001

[@clayxros576]

Too many parents are too lazy to actually raise their kids. This is why so many people have Zero critical thinking skills and coast along without any thoughts higher than what that random star did or a rumor that is blatantly untrue taken at face value.

[@Shatterstar]

"They didn't cut the ads, they just kept the revenue." I was wondering why AVGN videos were getting ads despite him cursing like it's going out of style.

[@SweetyMiki]

Someone else that actually understands COPPA?! And can explain it in a decently mature manner?! Finally! Thank you! In all seriousness, I'm glad someone does understand it.

[@2minutes58]

What they are doing with it is absolutely idiotic though.

[@samtinkle9076]

Hey, if you’ve seen Enter’s past videos, then you’d know he does a great “Reason You Suck” Speech.

[@Silverflame-1]

Even if this puts a foot in the grave for KZbin, it doesn't have to be the end for creators! Keep creating and pushing onwards.

[@hankhill1964]

These protections probably should be extended to adults. The most we should allow websites to know is our bank information and our address. And that's it.

[@Tokuijin]

Probably not too much of that, unless absolutely necessary but we could use laws/guidelines about targeted ads.

[@hankhill1964]

@@Tokuijin yeah. Honestly I think ads on the internet in general need to die.

[@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN]

@Jose Antonio not the time right now...

[@tmck4138]

That’s the part where the website asks if you accepts the fact that they use cookies to track your data.

[@Radfordhound]

In a perfect world I’d agree completely, however a lot of websites are so huge that they require an intense amount of money just to sustain themselves. Most people seem to find ads incredibly annoying and use an ad-blocker as well which doesn’t help. Sites have tried to implement messages asking the user to turn off ad-blockers too but this often tends to backfire as these messages are even more annoying. If a website is free to use, requires a ton of money just to exist, and can’t collect that enough of that money from ads due to driving their users away from being annoying, how can they collect enough money to operate? The answer is tracking. Do I think tracking like this is a good thing? Heck no. But I can’t think of another solution that doesn’t have some downsides. It’s pretty much, either your site tracks its users, it’s annoying, or both if you’re really desperate. Or, alternatively, it does none of those but also isn’t free, which people seem to dislike even more. Perhaps more sites should offer an optional subscription service that gets rid of personalized ads? I feel like people would complain about that too, though, because “privacy is a human right that should be free.” (I agree with this, mind you, but again, what else can some of these sites do? It’s just a tough situation.)

[@Lunamatrixx]

We’re stepping into The dawn of a new Era, the 2010’s are coming to an end..... and we have to keep moving forward (2020’s) but we’ll leave a few fragments of the 2010’s behind... KZbin is one of them....

[@dragontales1999]

"Keep Moving Forward"

[@lloydlandrum3040]

I am with you Coppa is a good thing and need to stay, but still given the rules/guidelines I have seen Coppa say what is considered as kids stuff ,they seriously need updating like very badly as they are so outdated and blanket statements that are worded in such a way that how myself and others read it is last I looked into it anyway is that a animated program for adults be it a cartoon, anime or self made animation would need marked as for kids despite the content not being for kids... Yeah those rules/guidelines are that outdated and that out of touch again last I checked

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@Brianna Goldman I didn't say Coppa is being reasonable or smart but there needs to be something protecting kids who are on sites as adults can't keep a eye on kids all the time... While other cases its neglect or them getting used... Among other things... But the current way they have worded the rules/guidelines for kids stuff basically means anything animated would be need labeled as for kids among other things that aren't just for kids or shouldn't be seen by kids will need labeled as fr kids.. For example of a obscure fact here; the earliest known Western animated porn film is known from 1929 and it was made in the U.S its known as ''Eveready Harton in Buried Treasure'' and going by how vague Coppas guidelines are that could be technically labeled as a thing for kids on how Coppa has worded the rules and guidelines I can name other examples too like Fritz the Cat from 1972 and its a X rated animated film

[@shinnemort4271]

forget outdated- its also Culturally insensitive AF. Japan in particular has Gundam plastic models, which are mostly Adult geared, as many of the Series have adult themes, but the FTC will see those as "Toys" and automatically kids content. then there's just Anime in general, all of which is considered "For Kids" which it isn't. and don't even get me STARTED on how Hentai is considered Kids Content by FTC standards.

[@shinnemort4271]

not to a lot of more Mature anime like Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, and more came out before Coppa...

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@@shinnemort4271 Um you are kinda wrong there on the animes you listed as those are just animes that got dubbed and noticed by mainstream western audience … Plenty of others that are mature was dubbed prior to those or just handled in shops as a niche product if only a sub existed … But anyway I wouldn't say the matter is so much ''Culturally insensitive '' on these guidelines so much as ignorance of the highest order

[@AssassinKillua15]

Imagine catering to an age demographic that's not even supposed to be on the site in the first place.

[@theshadowsagas3617]

I hate to see you have to talk about politics and technocracy type stuff so often lately but drastic times call for drastic measures

[@OsirisLord]

We need to start levying heavier fines against corporations because as it stands the money that they lose is never greater than what they make so all we do is make breaking the law a business expense.

[@handsomebrick]

Corporations set it up that way, so that smaller competitors can't survive.

[@j.c.2240]

Lobbying should be made illegal. At least for big companies

[@OsirisLord]

@@j.c.2240 you can't make lobbying illegal because all people including CEOs have a Constitutional right to have their representatives hear their issues. The issue is that the US has this law protected with a one size fits all mentality and treats campaign donations as free speech but ignores that freedom isn't equal, not everyone has billions of dollars. The best solution is to limit campaign contributions to less than$15,000 so that large corporations can't outspend smaller special interest groups.

[@j.c.2240]

@@OsirisLord Fair. Couldn't lobbying from big companies be considered "silencing opposition?"

[@OsirisLord]

@@j.c.2240 You'd think but the Citizen's United ruling decided that spending money on campaign donations was "protected speech" and that corporations were "people".

[@phineasfacingforward3460]

I don't understand Coppa, but I do know a thing or two about Summer Vacation.

[@zionaxel9830]

Candace should've just got on the damn trike......

[@missskypie1403]

Don't you hate when school comes around just to end it?

[@dragontales1999]

I'm 17 and I understand it.

[@averagebritishguy7082]

Not the time or place.

[@zionaxel9830]

@@missskypie1403 But what matters is finding a good way to spend it.....

[@originaluseername]

2020: KZbin BANS EVERY ANIMATED VIDEO EVER

[@cali115]

KATELYN SHELLOS The problem with that is we will lose music on this platform as well. How many anime soundtracks are on here that contain one of the characters from their series in the video? Not only that, some of these videos were created almost ten years ago and some of the accounts that created them have been inactive.

[@KaylaJohnson1995]

There arr animations on here that AREN'T for kids but KZbin will label it just for kids because it's colorful and fun

[@jeffdonal1110]

Well animated videos are still hear

[@doctorofallrats]

The way that this video was formatted kinda jarred me a little bit. Only me personally, I don't have much word on how others feel. From someone who was wrapped up in the panic caused by COPPA, I had initially thought you were 100% for COPPA. "How the hell can MrEnter be for COPPA, a bill that has the potential to be a weapon for heavy censorship, and yet make a 3 hour long documentary (that kicked ass, mind you) on the fuckups of the internet?" And then 13:40 happened. Now, if I'm getting this correctly, and I hope I am, you are okay with COPPA being a thing, but hate how KZbin is trying to comply with it in every single wrong way possible? If so, that is much more understandable, and I am okay with it. And everyone else should be at least understanding of it. EDIT: And this video has given me a more broad understanding of this whole ordeal. It's pretty good stuff

[@iamjohnporter67]

KZbin Brought this on themselves.

[@lucasbonica5065]

Damn straight brotha

[@chatboss000]

"we have very strict laws about advertising to children" I know COPPA is a good thing, but like, come on, have you seen ads? foods targeted to kids still have cartoon animal mascots and have vibrant packaging. I've seen it suggested that insurance companies have cute mascots like Geico, Afflack, and Progressive in order to get their brand recognized when the kids grow up and...buy their insurance! COPPA is probably as strict as it gets.

[@j.c.2240]

The laws state that there has to be a clear distinction from the show and the ads (the 'after these messages' things you see on Disney and Nickelodeon), the ad can't run during the show (this means no product placement or integration, and no stopping the show to advertise something without that 'after these messages'), and that the main characters can't sell the product during the show (this means that Elmo or Cookie Monster can appear in an ad to sell something, but they can't sell something during the show or mention that they were in a commercial). Since ceral mascots aren't in any TV shows aimed at kids, they're well within a company's rights to make. Their job is to get your attention, and the mascots are just companies doing their job.

[@krystiankowalski7335]

COPPA is absolutely not a good thing

[@chatboss000]

@@krystiankowalski7335 Can you explain what's specifically wrong about the Child's Online Privacy Protection Act? Or are you just mad at youtube's stupid handling of it?

[@krystiankowalski7335]

@@chatboss000 Welp, this response is way longer than I intended it to be. Strap in. Firstly, since almost every company is doing targeted advertising, it makes access to a massive amount of things technically illegal by those under 13. It should either be allowed for everybody or disallowed for everybody because this compromise thing is bringing age-based censorship. Secondly, it applies to every company that operates in the USA, meaning even those outside of the USA have to be over 13 to use these apps. This is the USA interfering with other countries. Thirdly, it is yet another thing introduced by governments to “protect” children far more than they need to, with the old men in power assuming people under 21/18/16/13/whatever age limit they decide to put in place that day have an IQ equal to that of a potato. Back when I was under 13, I was angry that I couldn’t allow websites to use my data and that I had to lie about my age, because, believe it or not, I had the mental capacity to understand the concept and ramifications of giving my information to corporations and preferred (and still prefer) targeted advertising. I would rather have adverts tell me about new things that I might actually want to buy, instead of something like tampon adverts. I support and always have supported the concept of youth rights, which is, in essence, the relaxation/nullification of many of these child protection laws because they oppress rather than protect. Lastly, I find it insulting that they’re just gonna say “everybody under 13 likes cartoons and bright shapes, and everybody 13+ likes watching real people (not cartoons), in greyscale, talking about mortgages and health insurance”. How can they do something like that? We are all individuals with our own preferences. And children grow up faster than the people in charge think - most 11-year-olds aren’t sitting there drinking hot cocoa out of a baby bottle, eating their own boogers and watching Peppa Pig. Come on now. Add to the fact there is no way that a program can be both for under 13s and for over 13s according to the statute, which is equally ridiculous. People of all ages sit down to watch the news, gaming videos, documentaries, music videos, comedy films, the list goes on - yet COPPA doesn’t seem to recognise this.

[@fluffycritter]

Something most people don't realize is that COPPA is about twice as old as KZbin is. COPPA is so old that its original wording required website operators to have a *fax machine* for parents to be able to opt their kids in.

[@willhiggins9563]

The other day I had a thought. Humanity creating the internet when we did was like a child finding a gun. We’re just not mature to deal with all of it yet.

[@TheRealUnkn0wn_289]

No some idiots aren't mature enough to deal with it, other people know better and understand it and can see past the bullshit

[@andykishore]

I've lost faith in humanity a long time ago.

[@handsomebrick]

That's what makes it great. I learned so much about the strangeness and darkness of humanity from being on the internet in the early 2000s, it was like a massive awakening.

[@snintendog]

incorrect the internet has matured those that used it from the 90-mid 2000s greatly to the point of near enlightenment of the human condition then shit got censored to hell in the later half of the 2000s and all the morons poured in with their trash its exactly as MGS2 said the worthless Memes flooded anything useful out. remember the "normal" people will always be why everything good is ruined as they are sheep directed to do as they are told.

[@rhondahoward8025]

I don't want to see anymore DaddyoFive situations on KZbin. I'm sick of kids being exploited for bucks and clicks. So if COPPA can prevent THAT shit from happening again, I'm all for it.

[@firelightyear]

It’s mostly Daddyofive and those Elsagate videos that caused all this COPPA crap to happen. None of it would became a reality if those videos were never made in the first place.

[@alejandracervantes7837]

Watching this to the end, your words at the end really cleared my head and not worry much.🙂

[@liamdude5722]

You'll never take me alive, COPPA

[@cardboardhawks6783]

That’s actually a pretty okay pun. GOOD JOB! Here’s your fool’s gold star.

[@whoasked9500]

No Johnny, don't do it!

[@juliosombereo184]

@Liamdude5www.change.org/p/youtubers-and-viewers-unite-against-ftc-regulation

[@felipe_drawmania1604]

This Is spreading fast...Is this the part where everyone moves to Newgrounds? : /

[@xenosayain1506]

@@derekstronf1837 time to go raid the White House. Senate and congress passed it.

[@FlixDerpman]

No thanks guys I’m staying here

[@user-jl7cz2pe6d]

That'd be cool.

[@gusgus0070]

Felipe_ DrawMania honestly, Newgrounds is way nicer to animators

[@Rinne_Z_rank]

Im moving to newgrounds cause if shit gets worse, im leaving.

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

Shockingly thoroughly researched and calmer than most KZbinrs talking about this. Still not good news for anyone though.

[@Mirokukeiiswatching]

I have been on KZbin for the past 9 years. When I turned 13, the age I could get my own email account I started watching youtube. Here I am now at 22 and I have watched this website get worse and worse, while my favorite content creators keep fighting to survive. I don't want to see you all go. You, mattpatt, RTgames, your channels bring me so much joy, but this platform is making fuckup after fuckup. I will probably stay here until something comes along that gives all these other creators a second chance, and I have already decided long ago my husband and I both, that youtube isn't gonna baby sit our kid. They will be here in 6 months and I want to cultivate their imagination in a way my niece and nephews never had. KZbin is not a babysitter, neither are tablets. Technically the tv isnt either, but at least if they are watching that I can block channels and I know they will have safe content.

[@Jaden-Ring]

Good for you. Nothing inherently wrong with technology but people need to stop using it to get a break from their kids then bitch about the kids getting hooked on the internet when they wouldn't encourage or do anything else with them before.

[@HunterStiles651]

You're 22 and you still watch Matpat? I weep for you. Matpat is the king of catering to 9-12 year olds who shouldn't be on KZbin. His videos are almost all fluff and his "theories" are based in total nonsense.

[@sleepichu9927]

I respect you. I want to be the same way when I have children.

[@thearea51raidwasboring]

@@sleepichu9927 This. After Ronnie's suicide, his video format went down the shitter as well.

[@BruhTumbleweeds]

Hunter Stiles 12 year olds watch more edgy videos tbh.

[@DementedDuskull]

At first, I was optimistic about KZbin being sued, that if they weren't allowed to advertise to children, then that meant the demonetization crisis was over since that was their attempt to advertise to children. ... But uhh... yeah. That didn't happen. Demonetization is still around despite it not having a purpose anymore other than stealing money.

[@clayxros576]

Cause KZbin is too lazy to fix it's own problem even of it would make them money in the long run. As someone in an earlier comment put it, shareholders hold all the power. And shareholders cant lead or run a business. All they do is leech until there is nothing left.

[@mystman1210]

Ah dang, I teared up a little when you brought up This Isn't the End, never would have expected that in a video about COPPA. Amazing song though. Thanks for the video. I'm glad you've tackled this from a different angle from Chadtronic's video. Watching both back to back gives a really good understanding of the whole situation.

[@minefa5]

Oh hi

[@Freyjinn]

I will stick around too. I won't delete any animation or any video. I refuse to believe we're all done. KZbin is destroying itself, but it wont destroy us

[@chadtronic]

"Always look at the source." * Doesn't even look at the source, and claims I'm mispreading information. * The conference is right on the ftc's website. It's not some secret fake video. Nice video dude. 👍

[@BruhTumbleweeds]

Chadtronic Yo do you agree COPPA should be lowered to age 10? I personally think it is unfair to categorize 6 and 12 year olds in the same category internet wise. Pretty sure every on the internet made their first account around 10-12 probably even before that. 12 and 13 year olds have no maturity difference, 10 and 12 year olds do however.

[@or-what]

Oh, this can't end well...

[@willhiggins9563]

He was listing general advice for fact checking claims.

[@UBvtuber]

Welp, here comes MADtronic with some fightin' words.

[@mattwo7]

Be sure to let your subscribers know that the FTC is open for comment so you can tell the FTC that other people's kids aren't our responsibility www.regulations.gov/comment?D=FTC-2019-0054-0001

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

This is why I love your content. You don't just scream about things, or force your opinion. You actually talk things out calmly. Even when you're angry about something, it's not for viewing views, but out of true passion or disgust. Your line of "THINK THROUGH YOUR IMPLICATIONS" is one of my favorite lines of all time.

[@angrychicken7097]

“whatever comes next, it’s not the end” *video immediately ends*

[@tomhur1]

I’m surprised you didn’t bring up how this new terms of service is already screwing over GOOD toy review channels like Baltmatix, Emgo, Jangibricks etc and stop motion channels that like using toys.

[@yaboimccoy8109]

Don’t forget doll customizers are also being targeted though they use carcinogenic and unsafe materials (i.e. exacto knives, Mr. Super Clear sealant)

[@dogryme6]

Wait, are the Exacto-knives carcinogenic? I've never consumed one before!

[@yaboimccoy8109]

dogryme6 🤔

[@brodericksiz625]

KZbin: if your content isn’t family friendly enough based on rules we’re not going to provide you, we’re demonetising your content. Also KZbin: looks like your content is too family friendly and we got the blame for it, so now, in addition to demonetising you if you’re not child friendly enough, if you’re too child friendly we’re making sure you are vulnerable to lawsuits with no help from us, cool?

[@bob-omb1217]

You said cool. Give me your money, now.

[@Iambored.com1111]

@@bob-omb1217 you breathed Give me your money, now

[@bob-omb1217]

@@Iambored.com1111 you're existing. Give me your money, now.

[@Iambored.com1111]

@@bob-omb1217 you moved 0.1 millimeters Give me your money now

[@bob-omb1217]

@@Iambored.com1111 you are speaking. Give me your money, now.

[@GeneralNuisance00]

You should make a KZbin Part Two. The rabbit hole keeps getting deeper, and having a comprehensive list of all the things that make KZbin a trash fire hell site helps everyone, but especially new KZbinrs. So they know what they're in for.

[@GreenLeafCityVideoGaming]

*People from the government should not have stepped in because they don't know what they are doing in terms of this!*

[@markosimunic4770]

Some of them dont own a cellphone.....let that sink in.

[@mrtheman548]

Boy, everything just feels like a farce at this point

[@InnocentSweetie123]

Mr. Enter, thank you so much for this video. I was so, so worried and anxious about this since I first watched Chatronic’s video. I was getting so worried and even lost sleep and stayed up worrying. I have anxiety and mild autism, so, my worries really got out of hand. Thank you so much for this, once again!

[@handsomebrick]

"The apocalypse isn't one event, it's a long series of things slowly dying out." This is quotable.

[@BruhTumbleweeds]

In my opinion COPPA is very unfair to kids between the ages of 10 and 12. Like let’s be honest everyone here made their first account at around that age possibly younger like me. The thing about is COPPA groups 5 and 12 year olds together which just doesn’t work. A toddler who doesn’t know anything about the world and a pubescent 12 year old don’t have the same interests. In my opinion the age of COPPA should be lowered for children 10 and under.

[@kwisowofer9872]

And then there’s adolescents, who don’t like what COPPA thinks kids and adults like. I’m an adolescent. I don’t like little kid’s stuff but I also don’t like inappropriate videos. My interests are in between. I like videos that everyone could enjoy, well despite some youtubers who throw in a swear word in videos. COPPA does not consider what teens enjoy, as they guess it’s just young child-friendly content and uncomfortable swear-word filled content.

[@Chronomaton]

Oh man, I didn't expect a new Technocracy episode.

[@DirectorOfChaos9292]

Chad kinda went overboard and is scaring others...

[@abriel3016]

Aegislash Excalibur oh, chadtronic?

[@TheAmazingDolph]

Virgin Nuanced Discussion vs Chad Mass Panic

[@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg]

I mean I can't blame him too much, this is a scary situation and he does feel (correctly) that he needs to get the info to people lest they do something foolish. But yeah, he could've handled that a looooooooooooooooooooot better than he did.

[@m.l6284]

Yeah to be honest I can't help but feel that he is a bit paranoid about this situation. Literally all of his tweets within the past couple of days has just been about this situation.

[@cardboardhawks6783]

Alexei chadpanic.

[@laytondrake289]

God I swear I want to hug you for what you've been, believe me I know the feelings. You really are starting to be a person to care and that is a compliment. Dam man, all I can say is you got my respect and I swear I want to support you on patreon but I don't got a stable job for it. I hope you get to use brave browser so I can donate my tokens for it. Is the very least I can do besides sharing videos and liking your videos. Take care dude.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Yeah I might be getting a job soon, and I'll definitely donate to Enter and several others.

[@an3582]

Every day, personal responsibility is being washed away in favor of a safety blanket.

[@SuperGoker64]

I'm gonna be honest here: the fact that I'm considering moving my content to BitChute (and maybe Soundcloud) was never about COPPA. It's all about how with every change KZbin makes, it's *_always_* at the expense of the creators. This change is probably the most egregious one yet, and the fact that it was brought on by COPPA is irrelevant. It could come from some obscure Uruguayan law from a hundred years ago for all I care. The majority of my content is remixes of video game and/or meme songs. None of these remixes have any lyrics, so there's no foul language to be offended over. My first two (public) videos I ever posted were pure meme videos, and between the two, the words used in them are "you", "will", "give", "me", "an", "egg", "no", "extreme" and "close-up". Nothing that isn't child-friendly here. The one video I actually _did_ voice is about a theoretical Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends episode. Still child-friendly. Among all of these videos, every single piece of visual is a still image with maybe some transitions, with no blood, gore, sex, etc.. All of this should be considered child-friendly, yet somehow, someway, I almost expect KZbin's machine learning system to screw me over anyway. Whether it's $11K, $42K or even just $5K, even _one_ false positive on my channel and I'm _done for._ This applies to any other small KZbinr that does this not for income, but as a hobby. Why should we be put into a position where we can be falsely issued fines over the "mistakes" of an AI? I've already said this on Regnilla's video on the subject, but... you'd think by now that KZbin would realize that screwing over KZbinrs- you know, the people who actually made this site what it is- would be a bad idea. Clearly, they never learn.

[@omiorahman6283]

the internet is like this as long as the people who does this have no accountability it will remain like this

[@Dorian_sapiens]

COPPA isn't about foul language or offensive content.

[@SuperGoker64]

@@Dorian_sapiens You're missing the point. Because kids have an affinity for video games, and because my channel doesn't deal in foul language or offensive content, this potentially puts my channel in the cross-hairs. The machine learning could easily mistake my for-all-ages channel as a channel that specifically targets children.

[@Jimemergency]

This reminds me of the Net Neutrality situation of 2017. Fear mongering was so intense.

[@ootfan7882]

Lmao I took that WAAAAAY too seriously.

[@justinenulam]

Didn’t you warn KZbin they were in violation back during technocracy?

[@Emilyrox]

That he did

[@Tokuijin]

Yes, but they ignored him.

[@KaylaJohnson1995]

Yup

[@SkyWarrior100]

Thank you mr. Enter, I really needed to hear those last few minutes from somebody. Especially this little bump in my life that's bothering me a lot.

[@EricAlvin]

The latest COPPA rules seem good in theory, but I still feel they need to revise some aspects of it.

[@thechugg4372]

Remember they put in their list that Cartoons are aimed towards children, MrEnter needs to either become kid friendly or break the law and get fined.

[@TheLugiaSong]

That is one part of the rules that really sucks ass. With the rise of adult orientated cartoons in the west, why is there still this assumption it's just a media for kids??

[@dogryme6]

@@TheLugiaSong The next person who says that Cartoons are for kids is going to have a very bad day.

[@j.c.2240]

Yes, I love showing children cartoons without first watching them myself. I love leaving young children to watch cartoons like South Park, Rick and Morty, Family Guy, Robot Chicken, Plague Dogs, and American Dad. High quality children's entertainment, very educational. I'm being sarcastic. Like or hate any of those shows, they're terrible for kids.

[@VoltagSpade]

Love how you didn’t even have to bring up the recent issue Markiplier had to go through with his livestream chat- The video was already among the top five on your KZbin Sins playlist by the time you showed us that.

[@superspyro3000]

The FTC is in the right in suing KZbin, but to punish the content creators is where I have a problem. I already plan on deleting my videos so that I don't get unfairly sued. Honestly, given the news going around, I can understand the paranoia. The moment innocent KZbinrs are made examples of is when the real war begins. I want no part in that.

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

Try to save them in case you can safely put them back up

[@anneprocter]

Thanks so much for making this video. I was really freaking out with all the fear mongering but this has put things in perspective

[@cosmiccastor7171]

Thanks Mr. Enter for clarifying some things. I'm not sure what my future will be for making content on KZbin, if at all. But I know I'll get by somehow, even if I decide not to.

[@TommyBNSF]

The concerns from most people are really about those who content that mostly appeal to adults, but can attract a younger audience as well. I really hope you're right Enter and people are blowing this out of proportion, but it's better to be safe than sorry in this instance. The FTC doesn't appear to be messing around by the looks of that CNBC video. Hopefully a lot of the hysteria will be blown over by next summer.

[@blyjd91]

That's exatly the worry I personally feel. Both for creators I love watching and for my own videos (even though I don't make a single thing from them).

[@natkatmac]

one second in: "Persons under 13 years of age should not watch this video, as they are not allowed to have a KZbin account." PREACH. KZbin should've swung the other way and refused to show videos to people without a registered 13+ account.

[@ShiningStar5022]

WELP: BYE KZbin! Bitchute, here I come!

[@faidou9954]

U sure you want to go to Bitchute?

[@kevinyveltal3418]

Plus coppa will get them too.

[@snintendog]

They dont collect data period Bitchute is better objectively.

[@snintendog]

boo hoo racists say bad things conspiracy theorists talking about conspiracies (which in the last decade many have been vindicated hilariously enough) Just don't watch them.Speaking of i don't see you complaining about CNN lying to the populace and being extraordinarily racist on public TV. Its all Free Speech get over it its either we all have free speech or only the dictator has it.

[@snintendog]

TLDR for both of you Bracket and Brandon you guys are prponents of censorship as long as it suits you litterally just as hitler did so you guys are exactly what you hate RACIST NAZIS.

[@dalila2442]

Mr. Enter, I've watched your videos since 2013 and I just want to thank you so much for being around! You've evolved so much in those years and I'm really glad I've been able to see it all. As long as you continue making content, I'll follow you wherever you go :3 (sorry if bad english, not my first language)

[@thepinkestpigglet7529]

You didn’t really address the issue I personally have seen brought up the most. The kid appeal=kid marketed thing.

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Very true it's one of the worst "vague rules" mentioned. I can understand video's that star children and most the others. But simply doing something kids might find appealing is pretty vague and scary. I know growing up and even now tons of kids liked adult content. Many kids wanted to get into R rated movies to be cool or play M rated video games like Mortal Kombat. By those vague rules it makes them "appealing to children"

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

That's why people are afraid. If someone makes a Sonic video or a Power Ranger video, because of this vague shit, they're afraid of being hit even if they just wildly swear or use the game as a background to talk about anything else. You *should not* be assuming people who make videos of those properties are appealing to children.

[@jacobmonks3722]

Chadtronic still has a very good point that the distinctions highlighted by the FTC are extremely vague and could spell VERY bad things if applied broadly, which is very likely given the poor explanations. I don't agree with fear mongering in general, I would much rather people talk about solutions, but Chadtronic's video should not be 100 percent dismissed as just fear mongering clickbait. He makes good points.

[@lloydlandrum3040]

Infact those who made those vague standards have no excuse to make them that vague as there has been adult animation sense the 1920's and it has never stopped being a thing... Which combine that with KZbins way to decide what is or isn't kid friendly and the like technically a animated porno from the 1920's could be classed as ''for kids'' by the bot or other adult rated animated things that check even more the boxes that the vague standards are set as

[@HEDERAVI]

*“There is always one rotten apple to spoil it all.”*

[@alexanderossevorth2790]

Hey, man thanks for making the vid. This helps me wrap my mind around this crisis which I feel somewhat obligated to know because it affects a bunch of my favourite youtubers. This is WAY out of control, and I hope this all sorts out.

[@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy]

Why are you guys calming down about this?! You guys should still be worried and afraid!

[@BobSheepbob]

I’ve just completely lost hope tbh, I’m just hoping once KZbin goes down in flames something else rises up

[@jeremyneil1125]

Are you trolling? 😑

[@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy]

No.... I don’t want KZbin and the FTC to ruin the site..

[@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy]

Its too complicated

[@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy]

My boyfriend doesnt want me to panic but how come others can but I cant?

[@OracleFefe]

"I am 12 and what is this" Mr. Enter: Illegal

[@quintinbrakebill8875]

KZbin: Well, I screwed up everyone...sorry KZbin creators and users: That’s right, you made this mess, now WE gotta clean it up!

[@EmilyB-px6vy]

Can we just acknowledge that many children under the age of thirteen learn about war and read books with mild, brief swearing in school? So, that part of the "war is a no-no for those under thirteeennnnn uWu~ please no speak-y of reality" is stupid any way you slice it. Many people can't talk about history, science, classic Literature, or all sorts of things taught in schools on this platform (successfully anyway); yet, people who scream for ten minutes about "'HI-larious' Top Ten Moments Cartoon Characters Have Accidentally SWORE!" have typically gotten slaps on the wrists, despite purposely breaking these "new" rules. These "new" rules are hardly new. They're only being enforced in a tsunami now because KZbin dug themselves into a hole and are forcing their users to bail them out. It's like dealing with apartment managers who don't listen to constant complaints and knowingly subject their tenants to harm, only to have a sudden burst of "helpfulness" whenever the State comes for inspection. Abruptly, the management is screaming at tenants to let them in and allow them to fix issues that could have been avoided entirely had they'd done their job from the start.

[@Thenematicphase]

*uWu~* excellent use of dramatic language

[@shutupsprinkles]

If you watch Chad's recent video, he states that KZbin messed up, but ultimately at this point, it doesn't matter-because the FTC *does* want to come after individual users, instead of KZbin changing how it tracks users or allows people to use its website in the first place. KZbin could change their system so that users would have to be logged in to a regular account in order to be tracked. For children accounts, they could set it up similarly to how like kids' emails would work or how Netflix works-the parent is the primary account holder, but the kid can use their account under restrictions (such as not being tracked). People could still receive ads on videos (and the creators who receive ad revenue from them would still be able to get that money), but they would not be targeted ads. But Google's entire schtick is tracking people to deliver ads, so they're not going to change. Instead, they *are* passing the buck onto creators, and according to the conference, they do want to be able to come after creators. Who knows to what extent and what exactly will be covered in that? I don't disagree that COPPA is important to protect kids, but it is archaic and to put any blame on creators is yikes. Perhaps, instead, the FTC needs to update its laws on tracking users, since this has also been an issue with other advertising-based platforms like Facebook. I think it's important to be vocal about both the COPPA rule going after creators (because again, due to the vague nature of it) and against KZbin.

[@jeffdonal1110]

Boy this comment did not age well

[@OcpCommunications]

Thank you so much for this video. So many apocalyptic videos on this topic out there. Also, I strongly recommend people to actually watch the press conference video. It has so much more context. More importantly this key point. "If you have knowledge that your channel or content is not child directed you will not be held liable."

[@troin3925]

6:07-6:22 Seeing little kids becoming popular with big, corporate KZbin channels (even going as far as having a show on Nickelodeon like with Ryan), makes me very uncomfortable. I get very worried about their emotional and mental well-being and the possible long term effects it can have on them. Seeing videos of kids pretending to shoot zombies with Nerf guns for instance is charming because they’re just silly videos made for fun with no monetary or corporate intent (especially if the video has little to no budget).

[@AndersonWave17]

I just wish we had control of our own data. Why cant I sell my own data ? If you want to know my viewing habits , my whereabouts , my purchase habits, that shouldn't be for free. We should legislate for our right to control our own data

[@calebruggeri6357]

Honestly, I’m not that worried about the COPPA outrage. But I definetly understand the panic

[@sunsxero8302]

Caleb Ruggeri I just feel worried for the creators that could be fine up to 42,000 dollars for just making content. It makes me sad that KZbin done this.

[@blyjd91]

Are they really gonna fine individual creators though? I thought KZbin themselves would get the fine and take action from there. Also, what about the people who don't have ads?

[@archoflife5910]

@@blyjd91 yes the FEC themselves said that the content creators are gonna get fined, and it doesnt matter if the video has monetization or not, if KZbin or the FEC find a video that they believe is marketed towards kids, and it isnt marked, the content creator is liable for the 42,000 fee

[@blyjd91]

@Arch of Life I do wonder how that is gonna work in different countries though.

[@archoflife5910]

@@blyjd91 KZbin is applying that internationally, so all content creators are affected

[@ffjreviews9029]

If KZbin is for 13+, then why the hell does it say in the App Store that it’s 17+

[@CMGThePerson]

You, supposedly, need to be 13+ to sign in

[@cardboardhawks6783]

Remeber Itube?

[@raider4341]

I have no idea

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Because purchasing and consuming are not the same thing

[@stressedrex]

Remember when KZbin was just a website home to wacky, just-for-fun videos like Afro Ninja?

[@autobotstarscream765]

Remember when KZbin wasn't owned by Google?

[@helenakoerner5536]

I agree with you on this. COPPA is not the one that is to blame. KZbin is. But unfortunately, the people that are being struck the hardest are the art community. And there are legitimate reasons to be worried. According to KZbins guidelines, anything that has any cartoon characters, bright colors or contains anything that might be child friendly content, will not be able to create new content. Also the comment section will be removed too. I first heard about this issue from NerdECrafter and I do believe that she has some valid concerns about the whole situation with the perspective of the art community in mind. And this is also the reason why I was hesitant at first to agree with you. But by the end, I now realize that there is more nuance to the situation than I thought. Even still, there are ways we can help. Remember NerdECrafter’s video that I mentioned? She did provide several links to sources that can reverse the desision before next year. So instead of spreading fear, extend support to those who need it the most. KZbin may be broken, but we as content creators and viewers are not.

[@tslavworks]

Man, YT's really gone off the deep end. As if the bad monetization on various videos didn't already say so.

[@raine6813]

mrenter is literally the only youtuber ive seen so far who dosent think COPPA is the end of the world as we know it