Understanding Science & The Qur'an

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@HassanRadwan133
@HassanRadwan133 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was an amazing lecture. You have in a single stroke just destroyed many of my criticisms of Islam/how Da'wah is conducted by many Muslims. I am as you know a sceptic/doubting Muslim but the sort of ideas you allude to are far more likely to attract me to Islam than the embarrassing claims of the "scientific miracles" Dawah merchants. I have to tip my hat to you Hamza Tzortzis. Much respect!
@te5065
@te5065 6 жыл бұрын
Hassan Radwan I am sorry but I don't agree with this because earlier scientists may have said something similar to the Quran but they made serious errors as well. So if someone says that Quran is copied from earlier scientists, it is illogical, because why would the Quran copy only the correct ones and leave behind the wrong ones? The Quran does not make a scientific error but speaks about science at different levels. Earlier scientists made serious mistakes, but the Quran did not. So this simple logic is sufficient to say that science in the Quran is miracle.
@te5065
@te5065 6 жыл бұрын
I am really sorry, but take a look at this and consider whether it is embarrassing or not: "If the sun is folded up"(81: 1) Literally, predicting 14 centuries ago that the sun will be folded up or it will be compressed or contracted. In reality, in the future, the sun will become white dwarf after expanding to become red giant, and will be contracted and compressed! Now you do research, and you will find out that NO ONE, absolutely no one knew, so long ago, about the white dwarf event of the sun. It is simply "impossible" to know about this event without the advancement of modern space analysis done by technological instruments and which we came to know just recently. I mean, literally, "sun being folded up" is beyond even the imagination if a normal person!
@farzanatasneem
@farzanatasneem 6 жыл бұрын
Faizun Nessa I've compared the embryology in the Qur'an with Aristotle and Galen and uploaded it in video form on my channel.
@KoranClaimsReality
@KoranClaimsReality 6 жыл бұрын
@@te5065 _"The Quran does not make a scientific error"_ Really? Why would you say this? I maintain there is nothing verifiably correct in the Koran. What is found in the Koran is embarrassingly wrong.
@lastshadowartist
@lastshadowartist 4 жыл бұрын
@kardelen Naik doesn't even accept Evolution!
@XaeeD
@XaeeD 6 жыл бұрын
Recently I listened to a lecture by an American woman, who was a top entomologist, and she was talking about bees and other social insects. In her talk, she said that most people have never seen a male bee. Unless you're a bee-keeper or a scientist studying bees, it's highly unlikely that you have ever seen a male bee, ever. The point being; all bees that you see flying around in the world are females. She then went into the history and what the people of the past thought about these things. She discussed the views of the ancient Greeks, and she then talked about the Arabs as well. Familiar with the history on this particular subject, she said that the Arabs always thought of worker bees as being soldiers, and that soldiers are always males, and so according to her research, the Arabs thought of all worker bees as being males. She went into great detail on why it's so hard to establish sex in bees, but it occurred to me that in the Qur'an, bees are mentioned of course. So I looked for the relevant verse, the one in which Allah mentions the worker bees (those that we all see flying about all the time), and I looked at the pronouns, and from within that verse, I found 3 proofs for the fact that, according to the language used in the Qur'an, these bees are in fact female. It uses three feminine pronouns, when referring to those bees. Now, this usage of the female mode goes against what the Arabs used to believe about bees, but it is confirmed by modern day science. The Greeks didn't know it, nor did anyone else, because I'm sure she would've said something about it, if some people in history had figured it out. But the idea of worker bees is still so prevalent, that even in modern day movies (for kids), worker bee characters get male names. So that, in my opinion, constitutes a perfect example of something that is mentioned in the Qur'an, pertaining to the natural reality, that wasn't known until fairly recently. Coupled with the fact that, according to the specialist who gave the talk, the Arabs, historically, thought of worker bees as being males, then this would in fact prove that there's something special going on here. I think stuff like that can be used to convey a message to the non-muslims, or even if you're not involved in any kind of da'wah, that can still have an effect on you, yourself. I have to agree with a lot of what Hamza was saying here by the way. And when I was younger, I was really into these 'scientific miracles' myself, but over the years, I kinda lost interest in it; well, not a loss of interest, but I started focusing more on theological studies. Hamza's talk isn't meant to take away that approach; he's just warning people not to get overly excited in that, and I wrote a large comment in the comment section of the first video I saw of "There's no Clash", and expressed similar criticisms. I still think that there are many ayat in the Qur'an, that speak of the created world, that are extraordinary, so I wouldn't dismiss it entirely, but like Hamza says; it's better to approach this with more care and seriousness, because some claims can become problematic, for multiple reasons. Good talk, Hamza! SLM!
@Exmuslim_noahide
@Exmuslim_noahide 6 жыл бұрын
So called miracle of female bees was easily debunked by Hassan Rawdan , I gave you the link , watch and then give ur thoughts about it
@alim.hosseini4638
@alim.hosseini4638 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this useful comment. GOD bless you.
@shirkisdisgusting2371
@shirkisdisgusting2371 5 жыл бұрын
Your hassan radwan technically avoided this in his videos, didn't debunk it. And since his audience doesn't know arabic, they took it for granted
@alwaysflat7996
@alwaysflat7996 5 жыл бұрын
Please when you write such a lengthy comment, make sure you break it, it's very difficult to read and most people will just dismiss it, because it is tiresome. Thanks
@alwaysflat7996
@alwaysflat7996 5 жыл бұрын
That's my opinion as well, I have to join you on this one.
@kaksinho
@kaksinho 6 жыл бұрын
“We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth” [Fussilat 41:53] How are you going to discover these signs without the use of science? Personally i think that the ethical, historical and philosophical approach to the Qur'an besides the scientifical one, are also ways too see that's it's words are the truth. The more you get convinced, your faith will grow thus giving you more imaan.
@mahmoodakhtar8847
@mahmoodakhtar8847 4 жыл бұрын
This is also ambiguous
@redsox7897
@redsox7897 6 жыл бұрын
The miracle of Qur'an is that all those information, even though they may be found in another sources, are all correct. There is no contradiction in the Qur'an. That what make Qur'an a miracle. It is a flawless book. Other sources might have some of information correct but some are incorrect.
@StopSpammingOriginal
@StopSpammingOriginal 6 жыл бұрын
+Eddie Alvarez _"all those information, even though they may be found in another sources, are all correct"_ You need to update. There is nothing verifiably correct in the Koran. Nothing. _"There is no contradiction in the Qur'an"_ What if there is? Then what? Will you change your mind? No, you will lie and protect the book.
@shahabsaif01
@shahabsaif01 6 жыл бұрын
Stop Spamming there are no contractions in the Qur'an . This is not a mere book.It's the final revelation of the One who created You. I really invite you to have a read with a broaden mind, you'll surely find peace if that's really what you want
@medishaghful
@medishaghful 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you brother Eddie
@StopSpammingOriginal
@StopSpammingOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
@Sharafu Muttikkal I can't find a book "Quran and science" by that name. Are you sure it exists? There is nothing of scientific interest in the Koran - and what is there, is wrong. Sorry.
@StopSpammingOriginal
@StopSpammingOriginal 4 жыл бұрын
@@medishaghful _"I totally agree with you brother Eddie"_ He probably realised his mistake, deleted the comment and ran.
@Sam-ng3of
@Sam-ng3of 6 жыл бұрын
May Allaah bless you all for helping us to see past this "scientific miracles" nonsense.
@ishmaelhaynes3909
@ishmaelhaynes3909 4 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful, very enlightening, Alhamdulillah
@don33l21
@don33l21 6 жыл бұрын
I would also recommend people, to watch Mohammed ghilan lecture on modernity. Its very informative.
@swalihmm
@swalihmm 6 жыл бұрын
May Allah reward you. 😊 It would also benefit if you put a video on how to prove the quran to be word of Allah without using the reference of science.
@yasserzain1521
@yasserzain1521 6 жыл бұрын
Hamza and brothers in iERA are da best in da'wah
@srada123
@srada123 6 жыл бұрын
Assalamu alaykum *[**18:51**]* "I did not make them witnesses to the creation of the heavens and earth, nor to their own creation; I do not take as My supporters those who lead others astray." *[**21:30**]* "Are the disbelievers not aware that the heavens and the earth used to be joined together and that We ripped them apart, that We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe?" In surah 18 a word with root letters sheen-ha-dal (to witness/testify) has been used. In surah 21 a word with root letters ra-hamza-ya (to see/understand/realize) has been used. So according to the one verse we weren't made witnesses of the creation of the heavens and the earth. In the other verse a question is asked whether disbelievers have not realized something about the creation/the past of the heavens and the earth. Some questions need to be asked in this regard: *1)* How can one realize what is mentioned in verse 30 without some credibility in science and its assumptions? *2)* When is science about the past credible and when not? The Quran uses verse 30 (whatever you think it means) as a sign to believe. Aren't you taking away the power of that sign/reinforcement in your believe if one doubts all science about the past? *3)* The question in verse 30 is about the disbelievers, but have the believers realized this? How and when would believers know and disbelievers not? Aren't believers in doubt about this verse? Some rejoice that it implies Big Bang, others don't think it implies the Big Bang, some don't know what to make of it. Maybe there is no fit between current science and certain passages in the Quran, or maybe there is indeed a fit but according to other interpretations that respect the wordings in Arabic and principles of language and verses among each other. Personally I have a problem with the so called 'scientific miracles' when people abuse sound principles and methods within the science of language. Satisfying the desire of a fit with science (and sometimes pseudo science) seems to be prefered, rather than moving on principles in language and looking for consistency and trying to reconcile meaning within the book itself (before comparing it with science).
@memsisters9994
@memsisters9994 6 жыл бұрын
"Iera"and "there is no clash" are in a big picture right, they are both in the same field of possibilities but connecting different dots which are their own assumptions, every channel highlighting part of the reality not the whole, as ALLAH all mighty know the whole field
@ultrawan88v2
@ultrawan88v2 6 жыл бұрын
A great another perspective on how to reconstruct our understanding of the Quran and the Scientific method to approach. That is why the Quran is called the book of 'Signs' not the book of 'Science'. Imagine during the Dark Ages, if we use the scientific approach as absolute, then it is contradicts with the science understanding during that time which is the Sun revolves around the earth, And people gonna reject Quran completely.
@amelsabri469
@amelsabri469 5 жыл бұрын
Its a call to us for meticulous observation of what surround us in this huge universe..and ask ourselve how , why, when. Allah is the greatest ! I am not impressed by science but by who creates our brain to reflect..
@alihemed4484
@alihemed4484 5 жыл бұрын
but who follow science and reject quran his iman is fake. i cant reject quran and follow science even when somethig sicence has not proved or disprove.example science says man come from gorillar i cant believ this
@amelsabri469
@amelsabri469 5 жыл бұрын
@@alihemed4484 you are right me too, science is always updating and correcting mistakes like food.. But Coran is the ultimate truth..for any place any time. JAK
@hamadfaheem4195
@hamadfaheem4195 6 жыл бұрын
The Miracle is it was in the Quran before anyone knew! Not science but the explaination before research advanced to the point
@ismirosyiana1452
@ismirosyiana1452 3 жыл бұрын
I have never been so happy that I found this video. May Allah makes it easy for us to understand the meaning of the Quran.
@nadirahmed4224
@nadirahmed4224 3 жыл бұрын
I just had a talk with humza and he is going to clarify his stance on this
@ismirosyiana1452
@ismirosyiana1452 3 жыл бұрын
@@nadirahmed4224 I'll definitely check the discussion you had on your channel. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it. 🙏
@Zakira.Rohini_Ahmed
@Zakira.Rohini_Ahmed 2 жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatu from Mexico, i m agree with all , allhamdulillah, Subhana'Allah i learned with some different Methods To read Qoran, when i ask to sheik's, brother's with knowledge about topics like this They don't explain, make for m complicated, then Allah swt show m Dalika Al- kitabu la rayba fihi... Yazhaaka allahu jairan for share knowledge from Mexico Barakah'Allahu'fikum
@abd-te4sp
@abd-te4sp 6 жыл бұрын
Brother please can you explain me this ayaat "سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي الْآفَاقِ وَفِي أَنْفُسِهِمْ حَتَّى "يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ
@nohaadel6029
@nohaadel6029 6 жыл бұрын
We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth” [Fussilat 41:53]
@SabrinaXe
@SabrinaXe 6 жыл бұрын
I remember stumbling upon this issue when doing researches about the annunaki theory and the Sumerian tablets
@mj897
@mj897 6 жыл бұрын
How would explain the Ashley Madison miracle?
@zugzi
@zugzi 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to watch the 45 minutes discussion they might have after lunch & salat(prayer).
@TheClimbToTheStars
@TheClimbToTheStars 6 жыл бұрын
about mountains have roots can i have the reference for that
@atiullah_official
@atiullah_official Жыл бұрын
Can somebody help me to download the slide?
@whodeani2216
@whodeani2216 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video, I was hoping next time the video will be in HD if possible inshallah
@Zeczam
@Zeczam 6 жыл бұрын
I raised an eyebrow when Harun Yahya said that the seven heavens refers to 7 layers of our earth's atmosphere
@PlayazXI
@PlayazXI 6 жыл бұрын
Umar Shareef highly doubt this is what's meant but maybe this is part of the multi level interpretation that brother hamza is referring to
@srada123
@srada123 6 жыл бұрын
Why is this outside the realm of possibilities given that verse 2:29 seems to indicate that what was collected in the earth served as the raw material for 7 samawat (heavens)? It states 'fa-sawwa-hunna' (so He fashioned them). Hunna refers to a feminine plurality so why think that the sama (sky; a singular) was arranged here into 7 heavens? A similar reference we find in 41:12 where it says 'fa-qada-hunna' (so He concluded them). Rawasiya (anchors) that were put on the earth in verse 10 is the only feminine plural word mentioned before verse 12. Or do you perhaps think that 7 heavens, the lowest of them being our universe, came from the raw material of earth? The atmosphere seems to be a better candidate given that the atmosphere came from out of the earth. But more questions would need to be asked here. What does the sama addunya refer to given the Quran puts constellations and planets in it? Are constellations and planets in the lower part of the atmosphere? Which might be the reason why you raised an eyebrow. But then again, the grammar of these verses indicates that 7 heavens came from the raw material of earth. My point is: additional data is needed to reconcile this problem. Could it be that there are 7 heavens that have their source from earth (atmospheric layers) and in addition to that there are 7 heavens that do not have their source from earth (the sama addunya being the lowest of this category)? It is a possible interpretation of verse 65:12. "Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and from the earth the like of them..." The interpretation would be in 'the like of them' meaning the numbers would be alike: from the earth also 7 heavens.
@lexusolution
@lexusolution 4 жыл бұрын
When people are searching for the truth they are looking more as much certainty as possible
@ohdomme771
@ohdomme771 4 жыл бұрын
Can you disprove his explanations, if not then there is no need for such statements since you didn't study as much as him.
@medishaghful
@medishaghful 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I think both approaches are inconsistent. I mean we should not bend the necks of the verses of the Quran so that it may seem to align with every recent scientific discovery. But at the same time, we must not deny that some verses have become quite shiny prove of the miraculous nature of the Holy Quran.
@Webdev5550
@Webdev5550 6 жыл бұрын
Bro please come Malaysia
@mohammedAhmed-xg9mt
@mohammedAhmed-xg9mt 6 жыл бұрын
AbuBakar Siddik why to create more fitna ? On your land and say them dont beleive the Quran beleive the historical texts from ancient people which could easily have been manipulated by todays people and showing them as ancient?better if he stays where he is and corrects himself right?
@hamzazulfi
@hamzazulfi 6 жыл бұрын
mohammed Ahmed It is better not to comment or speak if you don't possess knowledge about certain matters.
@Webdev5550
@Webdev5550 6 жыл бұрын
mohammed Ahmed May Allah show the right way
@Webdev5550
@Webdev5550 6 жыл бұрын
I hope hater will make him more famous Inshaallah
@Webdev5550
@Webdev5550 6 жыл бұрын
hamza zulfi Thanks for blame him... Because it will be free publicity... And I wasn't not fun of Hamza that much.... Since today my love increase for Hamza
@shameemnassiree2780
@shameemnassiree2780 6 жыл бұрын
JazakAllahu Khair. Where is the video of previous lecture of this event?
@riazsheikh6109
@riazsheikh6109 5 жыл бұрын
Your lecture is very much appreciated but from the point of watching it on a lap top, the situation in NOT good. we missed many things because of the audience.
@lastshadowartist
@lastshadowartist 4 жыл бұрын
awesome lecture
@mosopinie4097
@mosopinie4097 6 жыл бұрын
True
@haroonbaig5674
@haroonbaig5674 2 жыл бұрын
I really unable to get wat u want to prove by all ds?
@ahmadbaihaqi321
@ahmadbaihaqi321 4 жыл бұрын
New knowledge for me!!! I neee more videos!!
@awaisafridiyt7736
@awaisafridiyt7736 5 жыл бұрын
28:18 ok does that mean that "Shaq-ul-qamar" was not a miracle ? Because as it has naturalistic explaination by science community. ( I came across through it somewhere online that Shaq-ul-qamar and The "Miraj Shareef" has been proven by the science) so if both of these events now got naturalistic explaination, it has been deleted from the list of what we call "miracles"?
@alihemed4484
@alihemed4484 5 жыл бұрын
i think here miracle definition is not well structured, miracle is what is impossible for human being to do until God alone manage it or enable you do it and oftenly happen to prophets not normal human being. what is naturalistic explanation, mere explanation of sth and cause to happen or doing it are two different thing. i can explain musa a.s beat the ocean with stick and make a road to pass. but we cant do that.
@1400740
@1400740 6 жыл бұрын
An Eye opening video for me.
@CoachAbdullah757
@CoachAbdullah757 6 жыл бұрын
Subhanallah.mashallah tabarakallah.
@lostpathproduction
@lostpathproduction 5 жыл бұрын
what was number four on your list? I think i missed it.
@reshisakib
@reshisakib 6 жыл бұрын
اَلسَلامُ عَلَيْكُم وَرَحْمَةُ اَللهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ‎
@zamowner1
@zamowner1 4 жыл бұрын
You're assuming that the prophet had access to science from other cultures by bringing up 1 or 2 things that are not scientific and unrelated to the Quran, like the breast feeding for example. And then you're saying that other cultures from thousands of years ago knew about this stuff that already exist in the Quran, but how did the prophet have access to them? You assumed that the prophet sat down with traders from different countries and talked to them? An Illiterate person knows different languages? And was able to choose specifically the right things to say to his people? In which later science discover that it's true?
@HastDesigns
@HastDesigns 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to number 4?
@rafikkoudri3413
@rafikkoudri3413 6 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah keep it up! We need more! We want to learn!!!
@SCP-nv4mb
@SCP-nv4mb 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely true in terms of logic. The Quran is not a book of science and it doesn't directly refer to the "scientific miracles" or in terms of interpretation. Meanings of the Quran serves many different meanings and interpretations so we easily pick a specific interpretation and exaggerate it. But it still has miracles, but we just create misconceptions
@joymacadaag842
@joymacadaag842 4 жыл бұрын
Another layer of understanding, I agree with our spaeker. The Quran trancends accross time. It is not to show u some scientific conformity, but to guide u to a straight path, to have belief and submit to God.
@maanalmosa191
@maanalmosa191 5 жыл бұрын
Cann you translate that video in arabic
@muhammadsaadkhan3797
@muhammadsaadkhan3797 4 жыл бұрын
Subhan Allah
@aqibbashir1986
@aqibbashir1986 4 жыл бұрын
Quran and Science approach was greatly promoted by Dr Zakir naik...and i always have doubts and Questions about this approach...
@elyasmalau
@elyasmalau 3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone has their own way to convey the message of Allah. That's not a sin as long they don't lie.
@StrugglingBeliever
@StrugglingBeliever 5 жыл бұрын
i have one question... is studying science a sin?
@pusteblume5657
@pusteblume5657 5 жыл бұрын
Simple Soul Yes the prophet muhammed saw said this. This means that every muslim has to have a level of knowledge about his religion. You have to know the basics of islam for example what kufr(disbelief) is or what shirk is or what sins are etc.
@rawnakjahan2448
@rawnakjahan2448 4 жыл бұрын
No,but u also have to Believe in Islam strongly
@zahraafarag1211
@zahraafarag1211 6 жыл бұрын
I want a translation into Arabic please
@kugisakinobara3589
@kugisakinobara3589 6 жыл бұрын
I think you should have maade for everyone a basic grounding in the islam and science and then started with this lecture. because it will only help people go away from islam as some people dont understand the philosophy of Islam
@Zeczam
@Zeczam 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, so what miracles can we use?
@SIGNALacquired
@SIGNALacquired 6 жыл бұрын
the fact that the quran cannot be imitated ?
@Zeczam
@Zeczam 6 жыл бұрын
SIGNALacquired but most people in the west are unlikely to be able to appreciate that. How about, the numerical miracles?
@popularfrontforliberationo8917
@popularfrontforliberationo8917 6 жыл бұрын
@@Zeczam What?? You mean the mathematical mistakes pertaining to inheritance in Surah An-Nisa 4:11, 4:12 and 4:176. In certain instances it adds up to over 100%. A person cannot give more than he has
@ohdomme771
@ohdomme771 4 жыл бұрын
@@popularfrontforliberationo8917 how is there a mistake
@farzanatasneem
@farzanatasneem 6 жыл бұрын
The way Hamza presented the lecture was not appropriate in the similar way Maulana Waheedudden Khan wrote the book "God arises" This is because they've given a counter Islamic argument in detail before replying those arguments in favour of Islam, and in current situation when most people are rushing to see a little of something and then making their own opinion while they're halfway through the lecture, such lectures or books shake a person's Eiman before strengthening it, and if a person leaves the lecture or book halfway, he is left with a doubt.
@kombizz
@kombizz 4 жыл бұрын
Maashaallah
@beehivepattern5695
@beehivepattern5695 6 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah :)
@nabz188
@nabz188 5 жыл бұрын
Allah says munir to say the moon borrowes light not noor you're twisting it!
@WaelHamadeh
@WaelHamadeh 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your efforts brother. If I may, you are merely splitting hairs. What you criticized in the beginning of your lecture you used to support your alternative approach!! Yes, there are excesses in the approach of reading scientific signs in the Quran however, there has been serious approaches to regulate this approach in strict methodology. That methodology needs to be observed and refined continuously. That's all. I think that you are a bit too caught up in the details your philosophical background. This can be as detrimental as being caught in the details of scientific theories. By the way, there are multiple theories about the shape of the Milky Way galaxy and as such the orbit of the solar system is not deterministic and not an "absolute" fact yet you had no problem of using it as an example of how the Quran's meaning can match concepts based on today's understanding of science. Just an opinion from a brother in Islam. May Allah guide us all to the truth.
@MsFortruth
@MsFortruth 6 жыл бұрын
I agree.. however, I think he is speaking passionately about the subject because of the numbers of apostasy cases he observed in his line of work due to people coming into Islam for the wrong reasons and then leaving when their reasons are "exposed" .. so I do excuse his enthusiasm in "refuting" the claim of scientific miracles.. but you are absolutely right, he should have at least respected the opinions of those much more experienced, much older, more knowledgable people who have adopted that approach or tried at least to understand their reasoning .. he could have used less "sarcastic" tone and humbled himself to the fact that even if the scientific miracles approach is fallacious it still can work as a dawah tool, as per his philosophical understanding, and it brought many many people to Islam..you don't need to undermine other peoples work to adopt a better one.. he gives too much respect to the works of non-Muslims, I wished he gave the works of qualified Muslims the same respect.. sometimes our intellectual brothers pander too much to so called academia (which might be proven false approach decades from now) and over-criticize the people who paved the way for them to be where they are today.. may Allah forgive him and guide us all to the best way..
@hamzazulfi
@hamzazulfi 6 жыл бұрын
uss017007 Brother always use a more calm and cool approach in arguments. it is not good to say bad things about our fellow Muslim Dawah brothers and sisters.
@hamzazulfi
@hamzazulfi 6 жыл бұрын
I know I have read your previous comments. Still there is no need to say "Naik's garbage" etc. People can believe what they wanna believe but as I have mentioned earlier that insulting attitude is not the right attitude. I almost agree with all your statements.
@WaelHamadeh
@WaelHamadeh 6 жыл бұрын
What we need is a balanced approach to this issue. Just because people like "there is no clash" and others go overboard with their scientific interpretation is not a reason to undermine the whole concept of scientific signs in the holy Quran. The concept itself is clearly founded by the verse in sura Fussilat “We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth” While yhe Quran is not a book of science, but a book of guidance, The scientific notions built into its verses is amere artifact of the challenge it issue to its veracity and its source the creator of the heavens and earth. Wrong applications of the concept should not lead to overreactions in the opoosite directions!!
@WaelHamadeh
@WaelHamadeh 6 жыл бұрын
To say that Darwinian Evolution is a more established theory in the scientific community today than the big bang theory is quite inaccurate. The level of certainty of the latter far exceeds the former within the ranks of scientests (not in the puplic perception). There has been no time when the Neo-Darwinian model has been the subject of criticism and challenge from within the scientific establishment like noadays!!
@habibie
@habibie 4 жыл бұрын
Ambiguous = having more than one possible meaning, and therefore likely to cause confusion! Dear Hamsa, you can't say that quran is likely to cause confusion. Or you can?
@shawnolsen4740
@shawnolsen4740 4 жыл бұрын
Okey i dunno what to believe anymore.
@te5065
@te5065 6 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with this because earlier scientists may have said something similar to the Quran but they made serious errors as well. So if someone says that Quran is copied from earlier scientists, it is illogical, because why would the Quran copy only the correct ones and leave behind the wrong ones? The Quran does not make a scientific error but speaks about science at different levels. Earlier scientists made serious mistakes, but the Quran did not. So this simple logic is sufficient to say that science in the Quran is miracle.
@KoranClaimsReality
@KoranClaimsReality 6 жыл бұрын
@Faizun Nessa "The Quran does not make a scientific error" Really? Why would you say this? I maintain there is nothing verifiably correct in the Koran. What is found in the Koran is embarrassingly wrong.
@ohdomme771
@ohdomme771 4 жыл бұрын
@@KoranClaimsReality proofs?
@KoranClaimsReality
@KoranClaimsReality 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohdomme771 Proofs are photographic contact sheets.
@KoranClaimsReality
@KoranClaimsReality 4 жыл бұрын
@@ohdomme771 _"The Quran does not make a scientific error"_ This is your claim. Can you provide a single statement in the Koran that is correct. Don't just say 'everything", but show one (1) statement and show that it is correct. Like I said I found none and that's why I maintain there is nothing verifiably correct in the Koran. So it is up to you to provide evidence for your claim.
@ohdomme771
@ohdomme771 4 жыл бұрын
@@KoranClaimsReality okay I will but at the moment I don't have much time
@julianameri6984
@julianameri6984 6 жыл бұрын
Quran verse interpretation that related to science is okay. What the prophet Muhammad pbuh had warned was that a muslim should not claims his interpretation as 100% true. All the interpretations of science in Quran are just like a theory that can be challenged by other interpretations. A thesis that could have an antithesis and it's healthy for muslim scholars.
@alihemed4484
@alihemed4484 5 жыл бұрын
in the beginning i was like this guy looks like muslim but uhhh may be he different but he has presented a really good lecture which the great aim is to take care when describing or proving something with quran why because science by it self has allot of incorrectness or is unstable , if something can be modified latter on, so if that happen and you had 100% said this follow with quran you would put contradiction to quran which is perfect. then quran does not give details just use single word or very brief statement which is not enough to conclude at 100% with another modern science or theory .so i accept the sheikh that there should be good approach in addressing these things. for example bing bang theory its so detailed that it had a big blast and which is the source of all planets. while quran just said heaven/skky and earth were one together and then separated the aya doesn't give details if there was blast or if this then was the source of all planets. again i go with sheik here that there should be a good approach of addressing these things bcs science may have big error and take this error to quran which is perfect. science relies on empirical evidence touch, see ,smel, taste in this case science cant not believe or prove jinni, angel, or even God, heaven, hell, lifer hear after etc. so science has a big limitation to take it at 100% without a care and put it to confirm with quran. some scientific theory are biased bcs the founder just did not want to accept the truth or did not want to prove things which go against his religion or belief. for example if human was gorilla , or if human started from combination of gases to element and molecules and protein and bacteria like. whcih are not true but the founder even if knew if his theory wa wrong he must conserve his faith. or if he was against islam he will not accept that, and this is really we have seen this how bible purposely have been written and changed by the very curent man and say its all jesus.why because they want to preserve their faith that there is no god or jesus is god and denying islam perspective.
@rawnakjahan2448
@rawnakjahan2448 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh haters every religion wants peace and u guys oh man. Stop ot or u will go to hell no matter which religion u are and of u are a good person no matter which religion u will go to Heaven.
@noohkhanjabbar5301
@noohkhanjabbar5301 6 жыл бұрын
He wants to leave everything ambiguous and fit any thing you want in to it.why bother?what does it matter if there is a god or not.
@tanvir5816
@tanvir5816 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@dauharryrahman3398
@dauharryrahman3398 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hamza, Unfortunately, I cannot agree with you. Yes, there may be different levels of understanding of the Qur'an but this depends on the readers, not on the Qur'an itself. The Book nowhere makes such a claim. This is a mere extrapolation on your part, a lame excuse in the face of supposedly quranic errors that you cannot explain. I believe and maintain there are scientific truths in the Qur'an that we are gradually, in the light of scientific discoveries, becoming aware of. They are the signs of Allah who promises "We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things? (3163). And when the Qur'an speaks of truth, it never means anything except scientific truth. You seem not to agree that "over all things" include science. Let's look at a few examples: "And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander." (51:47) After decades of debates, "Today, the expansion of the universe is not in question among serious scientists. The evidence is overwhelming. In addition to the redshift that first led Lemaître and Hubble to postulate that the universe is expanding, we have amassed a lot of evidence that is difficult if not impossible to explain by any sensible alternative. " V T Toth. "Have they not realized that We bring the earth to contraction in its extremities?" (13:41) " ... in spite of the added space dust, the planet is actually losing mass over all, because our atmosphere leaks. Gravity does a decent job of keeping Earth’s air wrapped around us, but a faint stream of lightweight gasses - mostly hydrogen, but also helium and oxygen - is continually escaping from the fringes of our atmosphere. These streams are particularly dense near the poles, where gas ionized by the sun flows out along the magnetic field lines in the form of the polar wind. Thanks to our leaky atmosphere, Earth loses several hundred tons of mass to space every day, significantly more than what we’re gaining from dust. So, overall, Earth is getting smaller." Washington Post) “He was created from a fluid (ma’in), ejected, processing from between the backbone and the ribs.” (86:7) Read the verse attentively and tell me, does it speak of sperm or the process of ejaculation? If it is the process then it is a miracle because it is now a scientific fact that the process does start from between the backbone and the ribs. The sun sets in a muddy pool: Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, ... " (18:86) "Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had not made against it any shield." (18:90). Why does no one claim that the sun rises on a people? Theory of the Big Bang? There is not the least of such a theory! Evolution: Wait until you find the missing link! As for Maurice Bucaille, I have great respect for him. A Rahman
@adam_541
@adam_541 3 жыл бұрын
i don't understand, you're a very smart guy. why still defend islam?
@nadirahmed4224
@nadirahmed4224 3 жыл бұрын
Because there is clear evidence in the Quran which science has confirmed
@safaa9654
@safaa9654 9 ай бұрын
I dont understand what the point of this guy is. He is clearly showing that there is a huge incompatibility with the Quran or Islam and the real word and scientific facts. So is he muslim despite all this??
@lexusolution
@lexusolution 4 жыл бұрын
Really trying hard to make content for a presentation
@ohdomme771
@ohdomme771 4 жыл бұрын
?
@haroonbaig5674
@haroonbaig5674 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.people before Quran know abt.some scientific facts...but were all these things u find in a single book?2ndly who taught da somarians da scientific facts.
@hidayaamani2904
@hidayaamani2904 6 жыл бұрын
It's SCIENCE who's catching up with the Qur'an not the other way around. I truly believe there are so many scientific signs that we muslims could've figured it ou if we had studied Qur'an thoroughly and did not neglect the scientific notions just because we did not understand them. Of course claiming that a verse means this or that is tricky but there is a methodology for it with specific regulations too. It's some ppl's fault they're not adhering to it. Like, for example, how is this verse not miraculous? He released the two seas, meeting [side by side];(19) Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.(20) So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?(21) From both of them emerge pearl and coral. (22) ArRahman
@abhishektripathi593
@abhishektripathi593 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here who is disbeliever like me and came here to see how people try to connect 7th centuries' madness with today's science? 😂
@Leo-xu4yq
@Leo-xu4yq 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, me too
@abhishektripathi593
@abhishektripathi593 5 жыл бұрын
@@Leo-xu4yq 😄😁
@muhammadumer8002
@muhammadumer8002 4 жыл бұрын
First of all it's not madness,the people who ignores it are mad. Many scientific facts are written in this book 1400 years ago.well poor scientist just discovered these facts last century.islam is still growing so keep burning.
@raziadeel2426
@raziadeel2426 4 жыл бұрын
Abhishek Tripathi of course y’all Indians
@rogue_spirit
@rogue_spirit 5 жыл бұрын
One can change video title to "Qur'an is false" and it woul'd still be valid! A'udhu billah from this ignorant and twisted method. If nothing is a miracle to you (technically nor historically) then how are you a believer in the first place? This guy's knowledge and intentions should be put to test asap.
@k1003944
@k1003944 5 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what Im thinking. I dont understand why hes constantly going out his way to go against the idea of scientific facts in the quran that werent proven until recently. Isnt this, if anything, going to be of use to athiests and non muslims when we try to give the dawah?
@k1003944
@k1003944 5 жыл бұрын
And has it never dawned upon him perhaps one of the reasons Allah put these facts in the Quran is for the future generations at the end of time to believe?
@cybermop
@cybermop 5 жыл бұрын
if you are muslim, watch the full video. otherwise you will misunderstand the topic.
@S876s
@S876s 4 жыл бұрын
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@mohammedfurqan1291
@mohammedfurqan1291 6 жыл бұрын
As salaamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu.. 1) brother .. it would be good to produce a lecture or series of lecture to prove that Qur'an is speech(word) of Allah ( SWT)... I understand what you are trying to point out... I agree.. 2) We understand that you are trying to say that do not use scientific discoveries to prove that Qur'an is from Allah ( SWT) to say that this is the truth ... understand that... because science is not certain ... but .. but...but.... you are also opening the door for them who claim that Qur'an has been copied from Greek or Roman etc... Please understand the point and think and consult scholers.. I totally agree that there ia no clash... is claiming or trying to prove...... it is against Qur'an especially ..Evolution .. ... but also your points are good but this also gives opportunity people claiming that Qur'an has been copied... .. It can create another fitna... I ask for forgiveness from Allah(SWT) if I have said anything wrong.. May guide us all... Aameen.
@marcelwerner8691
@marcelwerner8691 6 жыл бұрын
So what if parts of the Qur'an have been copied. Isn't the truth important to you?
@tamijahmed3413
@tamijahmed3413 5 жыл бұрын
@@marcelwerner8691 there is so many discovery at the time of Quran revelation....and many of them are found to be inaccurate....so what u try to say that prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h take those theories and check and put the correct one in the Quran....
@bahookee
@bahookee 6 жыл бұрын
There is HISTORY in the QURAN??? There when? There is Prophetic??? There and When???
@salimemritte1248
@salimemritte1248 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to listen to your lecture until you said that There's no clash You Tube is wrong because I don't agree with you. In my opinion you have no idea what you are talking about
@princessixora1726
@princessixora1726 6 жыл бұрын
You are trying to proof that no one understood Quran. Ambiguous???.we all misunderstood Quran? Come on bro...Allah said think! The knowledge is always there..so look around and think! How can Darwin more confirmed than big bang??? Dooh.. Allah created the creation on earth compatible with human so we could develop. Be very careful with what you said..you need to learn more.
@samehs2422
@samehs2422 6 жыл бұрын
You broke my heart.. Walahi. I fell sad that you bring this talk with this way, so cold....you just make the quran look like any other book, starfiruAllah. May Allah havr Mercy on us. :( i love Quran and i love the prophet Muhammad saw.
@PlayazXI
@PlayazXI 6 жыл бұрын
Brazilian DAWAH he is only saying this because of atheists who claim that the author of the Quran copied everyone else. They have some ridiculous claims. So this is a stronger proof. I personally would work on probabilities. That is what is the probability that the Quran got this and that and the other correct. It's extremely low. Almost zero
@musajallow5710
@musajallow5710 6 жыл бұрын
thanks i subscribe to there is no clash and share their videos but i know now will unsubscribes today!
@masufi1817
@masufi1817 6 жыл бұрын
I believe that you are trying to cover the buety and the miracle of the quran with meaningless lecture I don't think your intentions are pure I don't who paid you or what real religion is but there is definitely something behind this
@TylerTheObserver
@TylerTheObserver 5 жыл бұрын
Salam alaikum bro I don't think he is and my reason for saying this is because as he said in this video. People are trying to find miracles in verses where there arent miracles to be found. Its an interpretation. Trust me on this because when I started googling these "scientific miracles" that only were revealed in the 7th century. And found them debunked all over the place I almost left Islam altogether. Hes not disputing the verse itself hes disputing certain peoples interpretation of the verse which, when debunked, may cause people to leave Islam/not accept Islam as they think muslims lie
@raziadeel2426
@raziadeel2426 4 жыл бұрын
Tahib The Observer like the Big Bang?
@nabz188
@nabz188 5 жыл бұрын
Wow using aristotles logic to refute science 😂 the irony! You are lost my friend
@k1003944
@k1003944 5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why hes constantly going out his way to go against the idea of scientific facts in the quran that werent proven until recently. Isnt this, if anything, going to be of use to athiests and non muslims when we try to give the dawah?
@alihemed4484
@alihemed4484 5 жыл бұрын
@@k1003944 really true bro
@yazid222
@yazid222 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with brother Hamza.
@lakerstekkenn
@lakerstekkenn 6 жыл бұрын
Just because Allah sent down knowledge to Europeans and Africans and Asians, and then Allah sends the same knowledge to Muhammad and the Arabs doesn't mean that Muhammad copied it because they didn't have the internet and library"s on every corner and the Arabs didn't bother learning this stuff from Europeans anyway and this is the truth, because knowledge was very limited and people didn't even bother to learn unnecessary stuff, they only studied things to feed themselves Does this guy even know that every nation and tribe had a prophet and he gave them knowledge and scriptures along with Allah sending true scientific information and knowledge of mathematics and science for man to advance to what we are now and this is why other scriptures have truth and teach that there is only one God and he has no sons and there's nothing like him, just like the Hindu scriptures the Vedas teach and later on the scriptures became corrupt just like the Hebrew and Gospel scriptures, like the Qur'an says. Allah has been giving Man knowledge sense Adam and still is by sending knowledge to every people on the earth to the true African, Black Egyptian, The Europeans and Asians and also the Black true Arabs, everyone is given knowledge of creation and science of everything including Mathematics and this guy seems to not understand this and how Allah spreads and gives his knowledge to us. But like the Qur'an says it's what they do with the knowledge and truth that determines their fate in this world and the hereafter, Allah is still sending us knowledge through everyone and every people on earth.
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 2 жыл бұрын
There's no science in the Quran that was not already know at the time men authored it. Of course, that doesn't explain its many mistakes.
@raulusama9164
@raulusama9164 5 жыл бұрын
What this guy is talking about? Trying to discredit the signs from.the quran. And your example of reasoning (john and dog) you have illustrated is nonsense. What is your intention?
@thejiminator8816
@thejiminator8816 6 жыл бұрын
Islam just conflicts with science tbh.
@thejiminator8816
@thejiminator8816 6 жыл бұрын
@hussein abbas You know nothing about science tbh
@tabarakalrawi4788
@tabarakalrawi4788 5 жыл бұрын
Where?
@saqibsatti8659
@saqibsatti8659 6 жыл бұрын
You are making dangerous claims that Prophet (Peace be upon Him) had exposed to external source of knowledge. "details are lacking in Quran". Astagfirullah. Quran is an ocean of an knowledge and everything in it. the only thing that lack is your wisdom and your limited understanding.
@samehs2422
@samehs2422 6 жыл бұрын
saqib sawar true, trueee.
@redsox7897
@redsox7897 6 жыл бұрын
Yes.. wisdom is to speak with knowledge, but you need to have hikmah to know when not to speak even though you have a full knowledge about the subject. I respect Hamza, I look up to him in some ways, but I disagree with his method of presentation in this video.
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