Understanding Toxic

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@katepeterson5478
@katepeterson5478 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, one of Earth's traditional ballads
@grapefruit3581
@grapefruit3581 3 жыл бұрын
I love this reference.
@AriOrSomething
@AriOrSomething 3 жыл бұрын
Doctor Who reference? Fantastic!
@Zangoose5
@Zangoose5 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously best listened to when played on a “iPod”.
@keathmueller7826
@keathmueller7826 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zangoose5 No
@brendaccc
@brendaccc 3 жыл бұрын
*Mosturize-me!*
@ErikCPianoman
@ErikCPianoman 3 жыл бұрын
This guy must burn through sharpies and staff paper. 10/10 vid.
@sisi7304
@sisi7304 3 жыл бұрын
they're not a guy, but yes, they probably do!
@michaelprendergast1483
@michaelprendergast1483 3 жыл бұрын
Huh??? Sounds like a man’s voice....
@sisi7304
@sisi7304 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelprendergast1483 that’s doesn’t mean they are a man, they literally said “when I used to be a boy” in this video, they are non-binary, and use they/them pronouns, regardless of voice or anything that would deem them “male”, respect that they are non-binary please
@tartarus1322
@tartarus1322 3 жыл бұрын
@@sisi7304 lol non binary is not a thing
@sisi7304
@sisi7304 3 жыл бұрын
@@tartarus1322 non-binary is a thing, they are non-binary, I'm also non-binary, stop being transphobic
@sanjuniperofc
@sanjuniperofc 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best pop songs of the century, and proof that experimentation and catchiness are not mutually exclusive. would love to see today's top songwriters and producers take similar risks.
@chantoya17
@chantoya17 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Today's pop songwriters and producers are too by the book. I love when music walks that fine line between being accessible and being experimental.
@brandoncarey541
@brandoncarey541 3 жыл бұрын
@@chantoya17 Keep your eye on Ms Billie Eilish and hyper pop eventually gaining mainstream appeal - the pop music zeitgeist is due for another face lift in a year or so.. I recommend Charles Cornell's analysis of Billie's music (especially the harmony+melodies in "my future") and MicTheSnare's Hyper Pop video.
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@voronOsphere
@voronOsphere 3 жыл бұрын
Today's Pop: "Whoahhh-Oh-Ohhh-Oh-Ohhhhhhhh Ohhh Ohhhhhhh.... Whoahhh-Oh-Ohhh-Oh-Ohhhhhhhh Oh Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
@gagadeconstructed8748
@gagadeconstructed8748 2 жыл бұрын
@@voronOsphere That was more popular in the 80s than it is now
@MrMeist
@MrMeist 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the party here, but I'm amazed you didn't touch on, what I consider to be, Toxic's most distinct musical identity: "Spy music". It's obviously a little nod to 007 and Spy Hunter. The chromatic line cliches and frantic strings are the first hint, but the tremolo-laden single coil neck-pickup guitar is straight out of a James Bond theme.
@Rafael51460
@Rafael51460 2 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right... When I listen to Toxic, I can identify the same "spy idea"
@101jir
@101jir Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Other common elements in James Bond movies (fast/cool cars, aerial maneuvers, and commando-style engagements) also fit really well. I always felt the instrumental would have made an awesome videogame OST for a desert level.
@maurodarken
@maurodarken 3 жыл бұрын
I like how in the 'cant go down' she actually goes down
@ayeletdrago
@ayeletdrago 3 жыл бұрын
what's the opposite of musical imagery?
@gregorgiebel1377
@gregorgiebel1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@ayeletdrago imaginary irony
@fingerzfrienemy2226
@fingerzfrienemy2226 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@noelcowo9479
@noelcowo9479 3 жыл бұрын
A nice example of "word painting", a video about it by David Bennet Piano is right here on yt!
@markcarr68
@markcarr68 3 жыл бұрын
@@noelcowo9479 That's a great video! Would recommend!
@riverAmazonNZ
@riverAmazonNZ 3 жыл бұрын
I love Britney. Her voice is so evocative. I remember the first time I ever heard her. I was filling out some forms at a reception desk, and the radio was playing. The music was utterly ignorable, then Hit me baby one more time started playing. It was so different from everything else, and her voice stood out with its emotional vibe; It caught my attention, and I said, “who is that?”
@Tuck7326
@Tuck7326 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm ... she really isnt famous for her voice.
@ollierang
@ollierang 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tuck7326 uhh yes she is?? what do you mean?
@thelawsonman
@thelawsonman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tuck7326 what is she famous for other than that then?
@mikechad27
@mikechad27 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tuck7326 what is she famous for then.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 10 ай бұрын
s*x
@ThePi314Man
@ThePi314Man 3 жыл бұрын
I will never grow tired of terrifying people by mimicking the squealing string line of this song. 😈
@mcmagiccracker
@mcmagiccracker 3 жыл бұрын
Look for the video of a small dog singing that part of the song. Pitch perfect
@noname-pk6ez
@noname-pk6ez 3 жыл бұрын
Matrix theme song is even better
@alexanderhanksx
@alexanderhanksx 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcmagiccracker that dog is a global icon and a national treasure
@gianlucacapacciola2099
@gianlucacapacciola2099 3 жыл бұрын
kinda of things that makes me wish for audio commenting.
@culanjohn
@culanjohn 2 жыл бұрын
Park
@jordang7479
@jordang7479 3 жыл бұрын
One of the few upsides to being a girl is that I've always known Britney Spears slaps.
@Alberto-ny7kf
@Alberto-ny7kf 3 жыл бұрын
jordan?
@jordang7479
@jordang7479 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alberto-ny7kf Yes Alberto? Jk I'm girl with a boys name but you're only the third person to bring it up in 27 years so it's a little more unisex in the places i've lived.
@Alberto-ny7kf
@Alberto-ny7kf 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordang7479 oh sorry i didnt know jordan was unissex
@jordang7479
@jordang7479 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alberto-ny7kf no worries : )
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alberto-ny7kf I had a classmate in high school, her name was Jordan.
@Look_Dad_Old_Tunes
@Look_Dad_Old_Tunes 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to pay Adam Neely every time you use the word "spicy"?
@theunwelcome
@theunwelcome 3 жыл бұрын
if he were ordered to pay Adam royalties for that, you could bet there would shortly be an Adam video explaining why he shouldn't have to!
@stueyapstuey4235
@stueyapstuey4235 3 жыл бұрын
My curry house went bankrupt paying Neely royalties, and he only ordered vegetarian takeaways... grr...
@milesparker557
@milesparker557 3 жыл бұрын
No, only when you talk about repetition.
@progfox
@progfox 3 жыл бұрын
@@milesparker557 Haha yeah thats true. Haha yeah thats true.
@madf00bar15
@madf00bar15 3 жыл бұрын
@@milesparker557 but It Legitimizes!
@yawnberg
@yawnberg 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever the merits of Britney, we should give some credit where it is actually due: Cathy Dennis.
@stueyapstuey4235
@stueyapstuey4235 3 жыл бұрын
Dennis' demo is/was on YouToob somewhere... it was surprising how little (production/post-production stuff aside) was different from the Spears version. Not dissing Britney at all, her performance is pretty great, but as you say credit where it's due. Dennis' song is a great thing to work with.
@yo_its_devo
@yo_its_devo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for a composition breakdown like this it makes no sense to credit Britney. He's not doing a vocal analysis. He's talking about the song writing which was mainly done by Cathy Dennis
@chantoya17
@chantoya17 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Ms. Dennis and the producers Bloodshy & Avant.
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody envolved deserves credit.
@tonybates7870
@tonybates7870 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose saying "Cathy Dennis used the Hendrix chord!" in a thumbnail is only likely to elicit the response "who the hell is Cathy Dennis?" from most people. Not me, of course - I'm one of the initiated.
@Yet_another_placeholder
@Yet_another_placeholder 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly never thought most of the songs you analyze on this channel had as much music theoretical complexity to them as they apparently do...
@woofspider330
@woofspider330 2 жыл бұрын
Neither do the songs respective artists lol! Usually, anyways
@WarrenGarabrandt
@WarrenGarabrandt 2 жыл бұрын
@@woofspider330 I've often wondered if the people who make songs mostly just slap together cool sounds that they like, then musical theorists run themselves in circles trying to interpret meaning that absolutely isn't there. Like an English teacher analyzing a book's meaning and the author tweets out "lol no, none of that meaning is there, it was just an interesting plot twist I threw in for fun."
@johnnycbad
@johnnycbad 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarrenGarabrandt Music theory is just a tool to help us understand music. It's useful but certainly not necessary. Song writers usually focus on 'does this sound good?' or 'does this convey the emotion that I want?'. Music theory is a way of explaining why music works or sounds good. Some musicians have a good understanding of theory but plenty of highly respected musicians that write complex songs admit they don't even know the names of the chords/scales that they use! I like to compare it to athletes who probably don't understand the physics of what they do so well.
@rome8180
@rome8180 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this is the best pop song of the 21st century. There is nothing that sounds like it. And yet it's catchy as hell.
@mastod0n1
@mastod0n1 Жыл бұрын
I'd agree. I was a metalhead/punk growing up and Toxic came out when I was a teenager at the peak of my music elitist phase where everything that wasn't what I listened to was inferior. But I always loved Toxic. But I could never admit it at the time. So catchy and such an incredibly crafted pop song.
@timhutchinson8485
@timhutchinson8485 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the violin part at the beginning is a sample, hence the very 'start-stop' aspect of the phrasing.
@robertolanzone
@robertolanzone 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, also from the soundtrack of a Hindi movie, which explains the exotic sounds. That being said, I think the sample was flipped in an amazing way, the original had a completely different mood
@yesitsvish
@yesitsvish 3 жыл бұрын
its reversed and gated.
@berxwedanjiyane216
@berxwedanjiyane216 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertolanzone it got flipped really hard. Im a violinist and always thought it was a string synthesizer or something else because it just doesent sounds like a real violin to me but that would explain that. I schould mess with violin samples more often
@repker
@repker 3 жыл бұрын
@@yesitsvish most of it is definitely not reversed, and prob not gated, just chopped clips of audio. i can easily imagine whoever produced the track was messing around with chop order and length, and keeping the clips staccato was a fortunate discovery, for instance
@dwall0
@dwall0 2 жыл бұрын
@@repker kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4m7hqKaoJKjjNE This link is a detailed analysis of the sample. It is cut up, reordered and some sections are played both forward and reverse. Probably the most complicated 2 second sample ever.
@drazlet
@drazlet 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge metal head who’s learning how to do death growls and plays bass in drop tunings, I am naturally so fucking pumped you made a video on this finally. I’ve always loved this song. And after watching the whole video I now know why a metal guy like me loves it. This is why I love theory
@1oolabob
@1oolabob 3 жыл бұрын
This is only the second 12tone video I've watched, and I'm a bit mind-blown at the moment. I've never seen this done before. About halfway through I was laughing because of the sheer density of the information, and that it was making sense to me in spite of the speed of delivery. I've been playing piano/keys for about 4 years, and I just found a month's worth of study in this video. Thank you. Also, Toxic is a great tune even though I never wanted to like Britney Spears. Excellent work!
@Jill-ih9dq
@Jill-ih9dq 3 жыл бұрын
such an unnerving melody, and such a sophisticated choice to match the song’s lyrics. if anyone hasn’t heard the slowed down string cover of this song from Promising Young Woman, I highly recommend. it’s terrifying
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty crazy how many weird sounds went into this song. I think you nailed what the composer was going for. Thank you for this video :D
@WonderVis97
@WonderVis97 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely adore that you play the specific thing you talk about right after talking about it
@BeniRoseMusic
@BeniRoseMusic 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I love is when the words line up with what the music is doing. You mention the pre-chorus being the first place the notes jump up, but that's when she literally says "too high, can't come down", right as the notes take that perfect 5th jump up and minor 6th down. Love it!
@davespriter
@davespriter Жыл бұрын
me too! that’s called “word painting” in music theory (:
@BeniRoseMusic
@BeniRoseMusic Жыл бұрын
@@davespriter Thanks! Good to add that to my vocabulary!
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 3 жыл бұрын
The strings are a Bollywood sample played in reverse.
@P-YT-CH
@P-YT-CH 3 жыл бұрын
Is that microtonal vocal bit also a sample, and not her? Can’t really tell
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 3 жыл бұрын
@@P-YT-CH The song was originally sung by the composer. Some of the original recording vocal is still in the song. They don't really sound very similar so you can usually tell who's singing what.
@P-YT-CH
@P-YT-CH 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@konkey-dong
@konkey-dong 3 жыл бұрын
This is also how they got that super short cutoff he was talking about at 1:15 - it was originally a really quick attack rather than a decay
@MatejNovakCreative
@MatejNovakCreative 3 жыл бұрын
That's very cool and definitely helps to explain both the tonal quality and why it has that eastern sound. I've always been interested in the second part of the main riff and why it sounds that way. I wonder if there's a modal analysis/explanation that would help with that as well.
@ugeanspyrll6816
@ugeanspyrll6816 3 жыл бұрын
Few songs in the history of pop music have had such a profound influence on me as this song. It’s so much greater than the sum of its parts.
@ace.of.space.
@ace.of.space. 3 жыл бұрын
toxic really is a sick as heck song.. bollywood sample, tritones, surf guitar, hendrix chords?? wow
@AngelicDirt
@AngelicDirt 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was about six months ago. I turn this exact song on, with headphones on, after a forever of not hearing it... and finally heard the first round of backing vocals you mentioned. For the first time in my life. Que me going "Hol up" and looping the track a few dozen times to see what else I missed. XD
@shojodraws3399
@shojodraws3399 3 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting how every part of the song feeds the narrative of the song. Toxic is about obsessive love with a violent twist. I never thought this song was this complex
@bipbipletucha
@bipbipletucha 3 жыл бұрын
The string parts are sampled and chopped from an old Indian pop song.
@nedisahonkey
@nedisahonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved this song. I remember being a kid and hearing it playing from the house next door and getting as close as I could so I could hear it. I'd have the string riff stuck in my head for weeks.
@Algo1
@Algo1 3 жыл бұрын
Had that realization a couple of years back that I was "incredibly wrong" in dismissing Pop music when I was 7 at that time (hey, we're about the same age), but the artists that did the trick for me were Aaliyah (her second and third albums are outstandingly good, specially from a producer's point of view) and TLC (Left Eye's death was the last punch to the socially aware, lyrically well written rap of the late 80s and 90s in my opinion)
@jamesmclay9075
@jamesmclay9075 3 жыл бұрын
I related strongly with the "I was a nine year old boy, of course I didn't listen to Britney! But now I'm not so it's ok" Plus, "added them in slowly" and you drew a burette over a conical flask. Looks like I've found a goldmine, gonna watch so many of your videos
@samphillips4925
@samphillips4925 3 жыл бұрын
When you talk about the "Fake out" at the 8 minutes mark I'm reminded of the Pixies and Nervana with the "loud quiet loud" technique.
@EmyrDerfel
@EmyrDerfel 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Sweater Song.
@weesalikesmilktea4829
@weesalikesmilktea4829 3 жыл бұрын
You think in a few thousand years they'll discover 12tone's sheets and try to decipher them like hieroglyphics
@portmantologist
@portmantologist 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing I'm around the same age as you, and was a prog nerd metalhead who thought that Britney Spears was terrible, and even I never thought Toxic was anything but a masterpiece.
@darkstarr984
@darkstarr984 2 жыл бұрын
I was a classical music weeb who has since come around as well.
@MrFury559
@MrFury559 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this, waiting for a mention of Cathy Dennis.
@TrailBot
@TrailBot 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, I almost like Cathy Dennis's original demo more than the finished thing
@stella-vu8vh
@stella-vu8vh 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@MrFury559
@MrFury559 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really big on recognizing singer songwriters. Like Cathy Dennis, Richard Marx, Linda Ronstadt, etc. Specifically; Cathy Dennis also wrote "Can't Get You Out of my Head" for Kylie Minogue, "Toxic" for Britney, Co Wrote "I Kissed a Girl" for Katy Perry, "Before Your Love" for Kelly Clarkson, and a few songs for S Club 7. She absolutely deserved a mention for the composition of this particular song.
@avedic
@avedic 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved this song. Perfect catchy slightly weird pop song done right. I love the mix of genre elements...a bit Bollywood, a bit surf rock, a bit middle eastern, a bit James Bond theme, etc. Kinda feels akin to that great April March song "Chick Habit." Another very catchy deceptively simple piece of ear candy. Pop music, when done very very well, always makes me fall in love with music all over again. More of a spotlight should be shone on the actual writers behind the scenes. Then again, maybe they don't want the spotlight? For whatever reason, watching this breakdown of Toxic made me think of the Michael Bolton song "Time Love and Tenderness." It's SUCH a great piece of pop music. It's got a slight early 90s new jack swing sound....feels like it would fit on Michael Jackson's Dangerous album. Everything about that song, the chords, the melody, the timbre....is just perfect. Juuuust weird enough to be cool and interesting....but also supremely catchy and well crafted. Would love to see a 12 tone break down of THAT song. :)
@Brosenbrose
@Brosenbrose 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who never liked any of Spears' music, EXCEPT for this one song, I love seeing it broken down and explained. So many well used and actually intelligently creative little musical tricks in this tune.
@raifaustino
@raifaustino 3 жыл бұрын
I kept seeing tritone substititions all around KZbin music theory videos, this was the one that made me understand the concept, my head went booooom. Thanks for the awesome video
@ambert.3792
@ambert.3792 3 жыл бұрын
BRITNEY!!! i cant wait to hear this vid. love your stuff 12.
@andrewstone3026
@andrewstone3026 3 жыл бұрын
FreeBritneySpears
@gettingkilt
@gettingkilt Жыл бұрын
...in specially-marked packages!
@giddyaunt9953
@giddyaunt9953 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard the original Bollywood track - Tere Mere Beech Mein - a few times. The high part is reversed but not the low part from memory. The use of the sample definitely adds an atmosphere to the song, but by chopping it up and reversing parts its very creative use of a sample
@francescoideo9330
@francescoideo9330 3 жыл бұрын
Here's me, a prog dude, intrigued by a guy explaining a Britney Spears song. Super informative video man, cheers
@zeynepcanik3947
@zeynepcanik3947 3 жыл бұрын
crazy how you make such good content! it's unbelievable you have only 400K subs
@jessica8564
@jessica8564 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered how interesting this song was and posted an essay about it in an Instagram caption because I had to get it down. The essay was so long it maxed out the character count on the post and I had to post it in two parts. Fascinating piece of music
@tguiot
@tguiot 3 жыл бұрын
Producer : "We didn't have time to autotune every line" 12tone : "She's using microtonality"
@tguiot
@tguiot 3 жыл бұрын
(Kidding, of course)
@CrooningRevival365
@CrooningRevival365 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna sing in microtonally at karaoke now 😂
@alexchimi7093
@alexchimi7093 3 жыл бұрын
It's always worth remembering when watching these videos, music theory is being used as a tool to interpret why a song sounds the way it does, it's not reverse engineering the writing process of a song
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 3 жыл бұрын
The cancer of autotune had not metastasized into all of pop music yet when this was recorded.
@mellowgeekstudio
@mellowgeekstudio 3 жыл бұрын
@@alaeriia01 Yes! Good times.
@robertmcknightmusic
@robertmcknightmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis. I did a similar analysis for a university class, but yours is way better!
@Drudenfusz
@Drudenfusz 3 жыл бұрын
The song was always a guilty pleasure of mine, but now I feel like I have not to feel guilty for enjoying it at all!
@dr.bandito60
@dr.bandito60 3 жыл бұрын
Fun explanations! I love learning more about music through these kind of deep dives. Thanks for making the effort!
@gumbycat5226
@gumbycat5226 3 жыл бұрын
Toxic was a return to the kind of pop music I grew up with. A huge outlier.
@ragmana
@ragmana Жыл бұрын
The shorter audio examples injected as you went made your analysis easier to follow. A nice change.
@JackTR21
@JackTR21 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't catch you mentioning is how the last bar of the string line doesn't always follow the same shape. In one instance, after the second verse when Spears sings "Slowly, it's taking over me", the strings slide up creating an otherworldly almost see saw feeling. We've become so accustomed to hearing that slide down that when the music comes to a near complete stop and plays the reverse shape it feels almost like a surprise gut punch. Like a disorienting punctuation to the previous line that really emphasizes the feeling of losing control.
@jeramiad
@jeramiad 3 жыл бұрын
I used this video to create my own cover of this song. I have learned so much from this channel. Thank you for making awesome content!
@themajorgeneral6562
@themajorgeneral6562 3 жыл бұрын
I had the interesting experience of playing this along with 2 other songs as a part of my Marching band show. It was fairly fun to play
@matheuscastello6554
@matheuscastello6554 3 жыл бұрын
this song really is a masterpiece!! ive always loved it, happy to see you bringing it up!
@rikosborne1212
@rikosborne1212 2 жыл бұрын
As a fan of complex metal, I finally understand why I've always liked this song.
@arbaaz9992
@arbaaz9992 2 жыл бұрын
As always, awesome analysis of a classic. One thing i would like to note here, which i am certain you came across but didn't really find it necessary to include in the video, is that the starting brass (or whatever it is) intro that starts the song is actually a sample from a Bollywood song. At first it doesn't really contribute anything to this discussion but when you do a bit of research on Bollywood music you realize that what you talked about in the beginning on how weird the intro is, that's 80/90% of old classic Bollywood music. So the clashing ideas between the two harmonies (i am not the music theorist so i don't know if they are melodies or harmonies quite honestly) is a huge part of Bollywood music. They tend to do that a lot in the old days. Even today in some songs. Just thought I'd mention this cause i find it interesting to talk about and I'm guessing if you did the video might have veered off topic unnecessary. Again, thanks for the great analysis!
@WizardClipAudio
@WizardClipAudio 3 жыл бұрын
I always did like this song, despite my sister teasing me for it. I had only just learned the Hendrix Chord when this song debuted, from a guitar magazine and primarily learned to play from accompany the radio or whatever was on MTV, at the time. I think that's why I liked it so much,.. it was effectively using a certain level of dissonance that I rarely heard outside of Hendrix at that point.
@jamiemoseley8327
@jamiemoseley8327 3 жыл бұрын
That's really cool that you play go! I'm not aware of any other youtubers who play go besides the ones that made the game their career.
@pBlackcoat
@pBlackcoat 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a question: when you talk about songs like this, why don't you credit the people who wrote the song?
@megan_alnico
@megan_alnico 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooo good point. A lot of musicians don't write their songs and it would be interesting to find out what songs were written by the same people and what styles and techniques are common across the different artists who perform them.
@Cabesandia
@Cabesandia 3 жыл бұрын
Because the girl who wrote the song didn't care about being credited lol.
@shadebug
@shadebug 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking it might be an awkward precedent. For some songs it might be cut and dry but for a lot of songs you might have half a dozen people credited on the writing, let alone the production, and then working out who’s responsible for any individual decision is already a mess without realising that there may well be session musicians, sound engineers, &c. who were uncredited but are actually responsible for things
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 3 жыл бұрын
Nor any mention that the string part is a bollywood sample
@yo_its_devo
@yo_its_devo 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't like the way he makes it sound like Brittany is the brain behind all of this great composing, when in reality she was just given the lyrics and melody to sing. The song has 4 writers and 2 producers though so I guess that could get cumbersome.
@voronOsphere
@voronOsphere 3 жыл бұрын
Great song! Excellent breakdown! Thank you!
@newton21989
@newton21989 3 жыл бұрын
"It's an old Earth music player. It's called an iPod."
@unkwnfella4849
@unkwnfella4849 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so check it. The string riff that u hear is a flipped sample from an old Indian movie, they cut the main part and played it backwards in some parts, they also transposed it somewhat. I tried recreating it and got pretty close, there were just some parts that no matter what I did couldn’t get right. Some sample manipulation magic, truly incredible. I also found original stems for this track and can confirm that they support main string riff with another strings from vst. This record has been and still is the GOAT for me, the amount of simplicity and creativity in the instrumental is truly inspiring, and don’t even get me started on that bass line OMFG. 🔥🔥🔥
@mikegrisafi541
@mikegrisafi541 3 жыл бұрын
I love these analysis'...and always interesting how different any one component in a piece can be interpreted. For ex. that G Hendrix chord....I sensed it more as an altered dominant (G7#9) being used to add tension to pull the listener back to home at Cm. Which would be a more traditional use of the chord in the jazz world compared to Hendrix's use. And that bass hitting that Db supports the altered dominant idea by implementing the b9, or just turning the sum of the parts into a big huge altered tritone sub of G7 as you say ...MOAR TENZSHUN!!! Of course I'm fairly recently acquainted with using altered dominants...so I'm prone to overuse it (and hear it everywhere)
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing articles back in the day about how Britney Spears' music is deceptively sophisticated, and didn't take them seriously. _I should have taken them seriously._
@MChrisGM
@MChrisGM 3 жыл бұрын
meanwhile the producers: - why did you use that note Steve? - idk man, felt right
@julianmanjarres1998
@julianmanjarres1998 3 жыл бұрын
Literally
@ephremcortvrint2376
@ephremcortvrint2376 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing it down and explaining what happens. I have close to perfect pitch and the song confused the hell out of me when trying to name the notes/what happens
@carlmease7238
@carlmease7238 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve played this in a cover band. It’s an awesome arrangement
@harrypalmer3481
@harrypalmer3481 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! - the track & the analysis.
@notarat9303
@notarat9303 3 жыл бұрын
me: fails my music theory class also me: listen to the nuances in this track, britney here uses the mode-
@GuyXVIII
@GuyXVIII Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY love the fact that you are taking Pop songs, which discarded by people as "Computer generated crap", and show how carefully crafted and rich these songs are.
@everestjarvik5502
@everestjarvik5502 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat, I used to look down on Britney Spears for no real reason but have eventually had to acknowledge that her music is pretty good. Also #freebritney
@azb2a
@azb2a 3 жыл бұрын
Using a Hades reference to illustrate "Chaos" is definitely a killer choice ! Besides, great video, I too had a revelation a few years ago of how good this song actually is, but your analysis really highlighted elements I wouldn't even have suspected in there. Great work !
@leowatley
@leowatley 3 жыл бұрын
love this track. used to be my favorite track of hers, but that was until she did 'slumber party'. such a deeply weird track, and i couldn't love it more. nothing about it should work, but it sure as fuck does.
@intriguingmusic3734
@intriguingmusic3734 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis 12tone. Also worth mentioning is the clever 'retrograde transformation' of the high strings motif around 1:35 into the song.
@fowmoufpunk
@fowmoufpunk 3 жыл бұрын
Bloodshy & Avant are watching this video, looking at each other like.... "I'm not sure I remember doing all that this guy is saying we did."
@TheRodolfoVideos
@TheRodolfoVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome analysis! This song brings so much memories...
@skum73
@skum73 3 жыл бұрын
Toxic is amazing. It is my guilty pleasure.
@notaninstrument7707
@notaninstrument7707 3 жыл бұрын
Guilty why? The for the song is great
@movimentodoscacos
@movimentodoscacos 3 жыл бұрын
Not guilty at all. One of my favorite songs ever.
@jameshesford
@jameshesford 3 жыл бұрын
Love this. Presentation great Jx
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 3 жыл бұрын
I do not like Britney Spears' music in general, but I can't deny that Toxic is pretty damn good.
@DuoXCity
@DuoXCity 3 жыл бұрын
You kinda hafta cherry pick this song to defend her. Oh and ignore her performances LOL
@malou1563
@malou1563 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuoXCity her peforming is great.
@randomuser1887
@randomuser1887 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuoXCity She is great. And she has a lot of gems hidden in her discography actually. I recommend listening to both her Blackout and In The Zone albums :)
@shawnbay2211
@shawnbay2211 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomuser1887 and her unreleased music between those albums are the coolest 👀
@randomuser1887
@randomuser1887 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnbay2211 yes!!! it truly shows her potential
@boot5672
@boot5672 2 жыл бұрын
i never really listened to the song as a kid but now that it came on on my mom's phone i gotta say i love the chord progressions
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 жыл бұрын
13:46 If we played that same line on an Electric Guitar distorted in the lowest register, it would sound Metal as heck.
@chrisfotis5214
@chrisfotis5214 2 жыл бұрын
Great interpretation of arguably the best pop song of the 2000's. The thing you don't get through it's that a song like that follows a monophonic style of melody. The main melody and the additional call and response melodies build the songs overall harmonic context. This is something western people always try to wrap their heads around. If you'd replace the drum sounds this would be a cut straight out of any belly dance record, and as such most of the iconic surf anthems like misirlou or James bond theme. I understand why somebody might think that this song is over the top complex and i agree with you on the sonics selection but if you have any familiarity with Arabic/indian music this song sounds like canon. Greetings from Greece.
@SkyFire2112
@SkyFire2112 3 жыл бұрын
My body is ready for this video
@carbonrick-roller7428
@carbonrick-roller7428 Жыл бұрын
While pop music isn’t something I enjoy music is music and I always appreciate the hard work and skill it takes to make it.
@thepeturtle7592
@thepeturtle7592 3 жыл бұрын
HUGGIN AND A KISSIN DANCIN AND A LOVIN WEARIN NEXT TO NOTHIN CAUSE ITS HOT AS AN OVEN THE WHOLE SHACK SHIMMYS
@rawkayle3895
@rawkayle3895 3 жыл бұрын
THE WHOLE SHACK SHIMMY
@stella-vu8vh
@stella-vu8vh 3 жыл бұрын
THE WHOLE SHACK SHIMMIES
@MaggaraMarine
@MaggaraMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have to say that the quality of this channel has improved recently. I did also enjoy your old content, but I feel like the most recent videos have been a clear improvement, since they have started focusing on other elements than just harmony. And the world definitely needs more music analysis like that. Harmonic analysis is of course also interesting, and harmony is an important musical element - but it is only one of the elements, and too often, we ignore the other elements and only focus on harmony.
@linkVIII
@linkVIII 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know this song was spears. Also don't get why youtube hasn't learned to recomend the actual song next to these videos yet
@SOCKS_RABBIT
@SOCKS_RABBIT 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t know toxic is by Britney Spears?
@zackierylister7811
@zackierylister7811 3 жыл бұрын
I like people like you, make me feel like I am learning something but since my knowledge of music is so small that it is just a fun r/whoosh Like I can understand the point is "Song crazy and all over the place but smartly and goodly"
@thecharger98
@thecharger98 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson also used it in “Remember the Time”
@Quotenbrtchen
@Quotenbrtchen 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know that
@meisterlymanu5214
@meisterlymanu5214 Жыл бұрын
thats incredible because MJs song was written ten years before Toxic. So he must have travelled fwd in time...
@TheCatGoesRawrMusik
@TheCatGoesRawrMusik 3 жыл бұрын
I love that the scetches get more and more all over the place the further we get into the video
@RockStarOscarStern634
@RockStarOscarStern634 3 жыл бұрын
The Hendrix Chord really rocks
@junssnow6415
@junssnow6415 3 жыл бұрын
first time seeing this kind of video.. i am blown away 🤯🤯
@lordsiomai
@lordsiomai 2 жыл бұрын
Man that first part of the video really hit hard. It was only due to the lockdowns i was able to listen to some old songs, and I was finally able to appreciate Britney's songs. Seriously, the bassline alone is simply too filthy, albeit in a good way, to be pass
@Freakschwimmer
@Freakschwimmer 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you.One funny anecdot: When you played the String's riff at the beginning I heard the decay and gap and it sounded like an editing mistake to me, I went to the song on YT to check what it was supposed to sound like. Then I was surprised that's actually what it sounded like and one moment later you mention this yourself in the vid 😂😂👍
@booates
@booates 3 жыл бұрын
for some reason i thought of it as being relatively recent, 2003 damn
@billribas
@billribas 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your vids so much, thanks.
@DanzelGlovington
@DanzelGlovington 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ive been listening to Toxic everyday for 15 years and I never understood it until now. Mine eyes hath been opened!
@najrenchelf2751
@najrenchelf2751 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, jumping straight to the song to try and catch as many details as possible!
@rynxlaneran
@rynxlaneran 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and breakdown, thank you!
@123unknownsoldier126
@123unknownsoldier126 3 жыл бұрын
I can only hear this song as the change (in the house of flies) mashup now
@libracordial
@libracordial 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis!
@gwbeecham
@gwbeecham 3 жыл бұрын
Do yourself a favor and look up "Toxic but it's Change (in the House of Flies)." It might be better than either original.
@UnforgivenIV
@UnforgivenIV 3 жыл бұрын
Recommended!
@that44rdv4rk
@that44rdv4rk 3 жыл бұрын
that works a lot better than most mashups. good recommendation.
@augustdeer
@augustdeer 3 жыл бұрын
Shaxicula by DJ Cummerbund is another excellent mashup featuring Toxic.
@alexjago51
@alexjago51 3 жыл бұрын
Toxic Fly by YITT is also great.
@mattday2656
@mattday2656 Жыл бұрын
I am a lifelong punk and hardcore musician, when I hit my 30's I got really into folk and pop, because of top 40 and living with my normal, well adjusted ex girlfriend and her daughter, so I got exposed to the radio for the first time since the late 90's, so I played catch up, as I had only been up to date on underground rock and hip-hop. Now I find myself transcribing Lady Gaga on a harmonica and acoustic guitar. It started when I got her daughter an acoustic and she wanted to learn Shake it Off, so I figured it out. Lol
@samuelbeauzile5192
@samuelbeauzile5192 3 жыл бұрын
I was bopin to this last week lmao
@songfulmusicofsongs
@songfulmusicofsongs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, didn't know about this song.
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