Undertale Third Run (Genocide - Still Blind)

[@meganbarineau3290]

Need a tl;dw (too long didn't watch)? I gotcha covered, here are some highlights (also saving this for myself for some future watching sessions) 12:50 - Run start (Flowey Speaking) 15:58 - Run Actually Starts (Avoiding Flowey's bullets and making him mad) 19:20 - Killing the Dummy 23:10 - Joe realizing that he killed the frog in the level 23:30 - Joe takes all the candy 35:15 - But Nobody Came 36:55 - The rock, the one funny solace in the bleak world of Genocide 37:40 - Joe sees that he won't be getting funny flavor text anymore 37:50 - Napsta (best character

[@josephandersonchanneltwo8825]

Holy shit, dude.

[@meganbarineau3290]

Haha I plan to do this for the other two, Genocide was just the shortest and therefore easiest to start with. I can't catch all of your streams, since I'm an arch student and I didn't even get Thanksgiving break without having to spend most of it working on a project, but Undertale is tied with 4 other games for my favorite game of all time, so I watched all of this run through. I never thought I'd get a computer of my own to play it on, so I watched a bunch of youtubers play it before I got a chance to play it myself. Watching people play unspoiled runs always recaptures the magic I wish I had gotten when I finally played, and I love to come back to them now and again. Thanks for the wonderful footage, you were honestly a joy to watch

[@nicholaschan4481]

praise the lord

[@RayendraF]

You're my hero.

[@Krtkon]

thanks dude. you've probably helped my marks since i had planned to start with the essey after i watch this. now i can check the most interesting stuff and start earlier than planned

[@violetsweet1660]

"i think genocide was really fun and i think it was a really cool idea" -Joseph Anderson, 2017

[@IchCharacter]

-Joseph Anderson, 1939

[@trii0dide]

@@IchCharacter oh...

[@Lord_Sunqu]

monkaS

[@justusP9101]

@@IchCharacterwow i didn’t know he was based

[@starcluster3367]

Amazing! You managed to avoid 2 years worth of spoilers!

[@aturchomicz821]

because of writing a book and caring for small humanoids

[@ghostmcghost3768]

looking at this say "4 years ago" hurts me to my core. how has it been this long

[@luisdabest5396]

@@ghostmcghost3768 I remember thinking this game was cool in grade 5. I’m in high school now…

[@ghostmcghost3768]

@@luisdabest5396 Can you believe it'll be SEVEN YEARS come September?

[@appleinxed]

It'll be 8 years old in september 2023 thats terrifying

[@MrNinjaBurger]

I think one of the things I really like about the Geno run is that unlike a lot of other games where good/evil is like different power colors is that in the geno run no one likes you. It treats you like an actual bad person. The note in the shop, the ghost just leaves, and some of the characters just are off doing other things so you don't see them. You see the same characters but different sides of them, and it's really interesting to me because it slowly starts changing focus and you become the enemy. Like the game treats you like you're the main villain, which you are. That's why Undyne and Sans get that awesome music. In essence they've become the new heroes trying to stop you.

[@EuroMIX2]

There's definitely an argument to be made about whether games should focus on being fun for the player, and I know that some people might hate Undertale for essentially punishing them for wanting to see all it has to offer by going down the truly villainous route, especially because some other games let you be bad, or focus on that primarily, and often make it "cool" or try to make it fun to be that way, but Undertale makes being the villain painful and discouraging, and only those truly dedicated to it will see it through. Whether this is a good thing or not is obviously down to personal opinion. I think it's a very smart approach, though I'll admit I'm glad I know what happens, and I feel it brings out the best in certain characters (I like Geno!Undyne more than how the other routes portray her because I find her more justified in her actions), even though I doubt I could ever bring myself to play the route.

[@MrNinjaBurger]

It's interesting because normal Undyne is just playing at being a hero. She's a good fighter (comparatively), but she's just pretending the way she saw in anime. Geno Undyne sees what you've done, and protects monster kid and takes a lethal blow. She then reforms and becomes an actual hero trying to stop a villain, in this case, you. Hell her song is even called "the heroine appears">

[@hebeleqwelexd6572]

MrNinjaBurger battle against a true hero*

[@flysteel288]

While other games don't do much between their "Hero/Villain" routes, there's still something to be said about how the games play out. I assume you're referring to the Infamous series, where a lot of people may come to the conclusion that the only difference in your good or evil "choice" is what color your lightning or smoke is. And while that was mostly the case in Infamous 1, Infamous 2 had many different missions that were only accessable by making the good or evil decisions. You'd be locked out of one power set until after you beat the game, and the endings were so vastly different that you'd definitely be missing out if you only played the game one time. I can assure you, you do not feel awesome for beating Infamous 2 the evil route All that being said, Undertale definitely approaches this better than any other game that comes to mind, especially when compared to games such as Mass Effect 3.

[@synka5922]

what I like is that this game tells you that things you do in the game will never be truly undone just because you reset, if you do a genocide run that will always be shadowing your game, unless you buy it again on a new account

[@bitnev]

"Rub-a-dub sub club" is actually my favorite.

[@cokeMONSTERps3]

His consistant laugh at it is my favorite.

[@adsoyad-ln7zb]

Rubber ducky rubber ducky rubber duckkk

[@domisepic7]

3:35:07 actually the game isnt lying he can only deal one damage but you dont have invincibility after getting hit

[@rainestar6781]

Without invincibility, all attacks hit you every frame that you're in contact with them... so sans does one damage every frame.

[@captasticts8419]

@@rainestar6781 hmmm why are you repeating what he said

[@rainestar6781]

@@captasticts8419 I wasn't repeating what he said exactly. I was adding that the damage is applied per frame, and the original comment did not specify that fact.

[@hades6532]

Actually, I played the sans fight and even a single frame of being hit will take 6 damage

[@rainestar6781]

@@hades6532 No. Sans has an AT of 1, so it is actually impossible for him to do more than 1 damage to you per frame.

[@tristanseaver9054]

For prospective genocide runners: when farming monsters, put your character at the top or the bottom of the screen and hold both the 'up' and 'down' keys on the keyboard. This will cause your character to vibrate and spawn monsters as quickly as they can for that given screen.

[@fifi6958]

Tristan Seaver the murder dance! lol

[@hamafi1569]

Seriously? That's awesome!

[@flydrop8822]

Also known as Frisk dance. It is not necessarily murder dance because you can do it in pacifist/neutral as well to farm gold.

[@cgijokerman5787]

So, what you're saying is, genocide run is the Dark Souls of Undertale

[@Avengedtenfold]

Wow, Joseph may have been getting frustrated but he is one of the fastest people I've seen clear Sans blind. By far the fastest of the lets players and streamers I've watched. I only have my friend who plays bullet hells religiously to compare him to in terms of those I've seen do it faster and even then it still took him about an hour to get used to the platforming/bones on the menu before his final attempt.

[@DNephilim]

Yeah if you actually pay attention to his attacks its all muscle memory and paying attention i beat him in 17 tries

[@JakobatHeart]

@@DNephilim I'm sure you did

[@Dorumin]

I know how easy it is to lie online, but I beat him on my 5th try. Doesn't even serve as bragging rights to anyone but my brother though, since he's the only one that saw me do it, but nobody else would believe me unless they were there :P Granted, I wasn't blind to the fight

[@ppsj69]

good job everyone for me it was about 120 tries and about 7 hours spread out over 5-6 days :D

[@jacks1368]

I beat him in about 12 tries, but I'd seen some videos of the fight and had some experience with Touhou as bullet hell practice (he has NOTHING on Flandre Scarlet, I'll say that much).

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

A shame you almost never used "check" though, some of the monster's descriptions in the genocide run are worth seeing :-) For example, monster kid: "Looks like free EXP"

[@TehPolecat]

god damn, the game still keeps amazing me with how much depth it has, even after all this time

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

No shit, I think it would be insurmountable task to find everything there is to find in undertale on your own without analyzing the level data :-) For example, there is unique dialogue for aborting a genocide run at the papyrus fight, in which he expresses that he was actually afraid that you would "do a violence" (showing he wasn't being completely naive there). [1] In the judgement hall, Sans noticing it's not the first time you've been there is not exclusive to Genocide run, it happens in neutral too, and it actually lets you gain access to his room and his workshop. [2] Sans also calls you out if you mess with your save data to reset your LV to 1 after having killed monsters. [3] And there's really a ton of variations possible for his phone call after the neutral ending [5], including one that can only be triggered by hacking your save data into a normally unreachable configuration. [4] [1] kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYKvap97paxknZYm20s [2] kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6Dbho2jqr-lbq8m04s [3] kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpybqWCpp7GErtkm05s [4] kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnSUf6yFftJjaaMm33s [5] undertale.wikia.com/wiki/Neutral_Route

[@davirrini]

Too long since I watched this

[@deadchannel4279]

Yeah, if you try to talk to toriel, it says “not worth talking to”

[@SIMPalaxy]

"Alright this is the last one." *loses* Me: aight, I'll have to watch tomorrow. *Joe doesn't say a word and gets back in* *beats it* WWWWTTTTTFFFFF That's badass!

[@josephandersonchanneltwo8825]

12:50 - for the start 3:28:15 - the reason you're here (do not click to skip this unless you know what's coming in this run. Don't spoil it)

[@willferrous8677]

Did you know... It took Dodger 8 hours to beat sans?

[@MrNinjaBurger]

Have you seen the hidden dialogue flowey gives you about Sans and Papyrus yet?

[@5ilver42]

Dooger's run was great, that run is what introduced me to her, the co-optional podcast, total biscuit, and in turn Joseph Anderson. So, you could say, you can thank Sans for indirectly leading me to consuming your content. ;)

[@fifi6958]

5ilver42 same!!

[@fifi6958]

MrNinjaBurger what does flowey say??

[@bentleykennedy-stone673]

3:24:45 Holy shit... "At least we're better than those sickos that stand around and WATCH it happen... those pathetic people that WANT to see it, but are too weak to do it themselves. I bet someone like that is watching right now." I need to think about my life.

[@aturchomicz821]

reminds me of this guy kzbin.info/www/bejne/np2Zc5l8eKqleLM

[@adhamaziz9047]

@@aturchomicz821 flowey is talking about sans

[@aturchomicz821]

@@adhamaziz9047 r/wooooooosh

[@deblob123456789]

adham aziz Absolutly not, Flowey was talking about US

[@rocketpg_9532]

What if you did it AND watched it? What sort of person would that make you?

[@WhiteKnuckleRide512]

Every so often I come back to this video just to hear Joe’s pure enjoyment of Megalovania without any hint of irony or meme behind it. Just a good song.

[@andrew_cunningham]

I guess I'll type some shit while the grinding takes place. You're talking a lot about the intent behind making the genocide run so tedious. I like the two ideas you came up with to justify it (to prevent accidental genocide, to make you feel like a predator), but I personally find the genocide run makes the most sense if you approach it with the assumption that you're doing something unnatural- a part of the game that simply wasn't meant to exist. In many ways, it's basically designed to be the most miserable way to play the game possible (you skip all the puzzles and diversions, most NPCs are removed, the music gets mangled, the combat system is reduced to huge stretches of mind numbing grinding, and every boss is either a nihilistic anticlimax or a fuck-you difficulty spike), so the not-so-subtle question the game is asking you is "why the fuck are you still playing this?", to which you can only respond "I heard there would be new content" (this pretty much sums up the punchline of the geno run in general). It's the equivalent of finding some kid who'll do anything on a dare and pushing to see just how far they'll go. I imagine Toby kinda cut loose and enjoyed himself designing this route once he realized that he could fuck the player as hard as he wanted and they would have nobody to blame but themselves.

[@aturchomicz821]

fuck the player as hard as he wanted and they would have nobody to blame but themselves? well speedruners definetly arent fucked with

[@masterj3344]

atur chomicz seems like speedrunners and dataminers can fuck with the game right back. Toby used to hate the dataminers until he worked with some of them for the Japanese localization. Now he runs a team of them.

[@Android480]

Beautifully said. I can't tell you how many times I was walking back and forth in hotland, bored out of my mind, wondering why in the hell I was still doing this thing. Like, what was I getting out of it? It really makes you question what your motivations are, how far will you go just to see one more secret nugget of exposition. How fucking ridiculous is it to spend hours intentionally boring yourself to murder the few remaining NPCs just to see what youtube can show you already. I even threw on a podcast for most of the grind, rather than just accept this is a ridiculous task I've assigned to myself. Really its a neat idea on Toby Fox's part, it reminds me of Stanley Parable or Infinite Jest, or anything that goes out of its way to comment on the absurdity of the consumer themselves. Or laugh in their face, more often. I think professors call it postmodernism. I feel like this sort of progression happens when any medium becomes starkly aware of itself. Like, isn't this thing close to what Don Quixote was about back in the 1600s? Not that I even got through that book, but there comes a point in every art form, and in every movement inside every art form, where it just collapses in on itself. I mean, even just recently, you can start with Quixote and eventually get all the way to Faulkner, and then to Pynchon, and then to DFW, and then the whole segment is destroyed and reborn, ready to be fucked with all over again. And thats just one branch of one genre of novels, every other branch has had their own black hole of self-awareness implode in on them. Fuck, even the shallowest form of cinema, look at Cabin in the Woods or Get Out and you can see the the horror genre toy with itself to failure. As far as video games go, I'm not saying Undertale did it first, far far from it. Theres an argument to be made about MSG being the first real mainstream 4th wall breaking title in video games, even though it happened dozens of times before, and thousands of times since. But Undertale has that same unique quality of being both a really fucking great game, and a game thats absolutely about deconstructing the genre. It can stand on its own as a game, but it can also stand as an examination of games. I sound like melodramatic a toby fox twitter warrior here, I realize how weird it is to relate this game to Don Quixote or whatever. This isn't the second coming of AV christ, but it is something that will influence the genre for years to come. The genocide run is an important piece of it, I'm glad it was made the way it was.

[@KitKat-sv9qp]

i went back to this video to rewatch it- didn't realize you sent a comment so long ago :0 ! Love ur content man

[@jamesj6426]

“The music is really good, wish I could hear more than 10 seconds of it..” You will Joe, oh you will.

[@Wrandm]

SPOILERS for end of run I guess? 4:35:16 "Sans is making me hate my own skeleton." - Joseph Anderson 2017

[@gonchuits]

*Looks at stream length* *Looks at timestamp he gets to sans* Oh boy this is gonna be a fun one.

[@leightonpetty4817]

Giving Jerry the largest non-boss health bar in the game is one of the most underrated gags

[@Madeline-Cano]

RIP Mettaton Neo, your life was short but so very fabulous

[@radekseky4571]

Having Joseph doing this blind is a gift we should cherish forever.

[@jaytea3085]

damn, that's really frustrating that you never got to see sans's ominous side right before you kill papyrus. that's a bone chilling moment (pun intended) to say the least. but of course you had no way of knowing, and it can't be helped.

[@spootot]

You're correct I'm VERY mad you didn't talk to sans on the bridge

[@spootot]

Although apart from that, this man is a beast

[@patiichun9238]

@@spootot do you by any chance know what he says there? i dont rlly wanna go through another playthrough to see what sans says in that one scene

[@spootot]

@@patiichun9238 I believe it's the part where sans delivers the CLASSIC line "if you keep going the way you are now... you're gonna have a bad time"

[@manipreferchicken4083]

@@patiichun9238 yea he says something about how you're about to fight papyrus, and if you keep going like this you'll have a bad time.

[@maple...]

@@patiichun9238 when he says his lines, his eyes go all black and afterwards the screen goes black for a second, and when it's back he's gone. it's very creepy if you're not expecting it

[@drio5180]

5:12:53 “is he wearing slippers?” Lmao

[@TopGamer4610]

You get a secret ending scene if you go back through a true pacifist run after finishing genocide run.... just in case you need some more footage for that review we're all waiting on...

[@QuikVidGuy]

"I'm an hour in and I think I just fucked up. better save immediately."

[@Radenovic]

Sad about him missing the threat of sans before entering Snowdin Town; it's a pretty memorable moment

[@aturchomicz821]

its prety forgetabble,but thats proerly because I cant speak or und uerstand engklisch

[@captasticts8419]

huh?? what exactly do you mean, what does he say??

[@aturchomicz821]

@Ívarr hinn Beinlausi Tips fedora

[@parkerfml4098]

Michael Hämmerle some thing along the lines of “if you keep going how you’re going, you’re going to have a bad time” followed by the screen flashing and sans disappears.

[@sdk644]

Commenter awaited Undertale review/ critique: But nobody came.

[@PaddyRoon7]

I bet by the 20th Sans attempt he was really regretting eating the Bscotch pie and 4 snowman pieces.

[@octo_contra]

This game is so good that Joe could basically just read it as written with minimal commentary and I still watched all three runs straight through despite having played it before.

[@aidanknox2430]

to help me finish my homework I did every time a monster dies I do 1 problem. worked pretty well.

[@pigismal1154]

I like this guy he's so calm compared to other youtubers. Doesn't start screaming the second sans attacks.

[@Ahmadkhadr.]

I love how all the youtubers go to save straight after killing sans XD

[@Firestar4041]

Be a really kicker if Sans just pops up and stabs you while saving...

[@Ahmadkhadr.]

Firestar4041 Yeah imagine that XD

[@Firestar4041]

"The sigh of your fallen foes, fills you with DETERMINATION. . . wait, nope, that's a bone shank." Sans: Geeeeeeet dunked.

[@Ahmadkhadr.]

The first word sans learned before even learning the word "hi" or"dad" is "dunked on"

[@calyk3105]

"Someone is mad that I didn't see that"

[@pepnkek5818]

watching sans slowly drive you to anger live was great I would highly reccomend playing the Lisa the painfull series its an interesting premise with its own twisted mechanics even the fan games for it are good.

[@BanangArang]

Yes, I second this, please play LISA. I want to see your opinion on it so bad.

[@TankorSmash]

@@BanangArang He ended up playing it, he enjoyed it

[@chair547]

I don't know if I agree with your views on alphys. I feel like all the signs are there from the horrible social anxiety to the unused the lab equipment to all the letters that aren't answered it seems like the sign of someone who fucked up really bad and is desperately trying to hide from it.

[@AlquimistEd]

His views on Alphys seem to come from the exact same place of the general public's perception about people with depression and anxiety, and that's kind of a shame.

[@RealityRogue]

@VirgateSpy Boomer vision

[@youdbettertube]

Yeah but the constant calls and status updates from her get old fast, especially after your first run.

[@maple...]

fair, but, how DO you explain her ghosting everyone yet being very active on social media?

[@TheSilverwing999]

@@AlquimistEd Yeah it's obvious that he doesn't really understand the way people with anxiety and depression feels, which is fine, but also kind of sad, because it reminds me of how everyone treats people with those things

[@iamdivan7368]

I still come back to here time to time. To this day this is the best Undertale playthrough I've ever seen

[@WaffleT1]

Its odd how you are so thorough on talking to everyone to see if things changed but in neither pacifist or genocide used the "check" command to read the flavor text on the monsters. Its totally optional and all but I found it strange

[@willferrous8677]

omg it's WAFFLE

[@AlquimistEd]

Also weird that he never checks if the dialogue changes when he dies, except for sans.

[@aleisshiki3649]

WaffleT doesn’t it take a turn? That could be annoying

[@TheDolphiner]

joe didnt get dunked on BibleThump

[@SymmRTA]

Its a shame joe never ended up doing a video on this game. Its been a long time since this game has been released and it truely is one of a kind. Nothing since has ever made me feel the same way this game made me feel. I would love Joe to return to this game and do a video on it still.

[@aleisshiki3649]

Symm C. Kenny I still have hope

[@springbubble4931]

Almost certainly he is. Just gotta remember, he plans on doing this for many years, and he still has other projects lined up.

[@jasondeng7677]

At first i was complaining about dying repeatedly from omega/photoshop flowey. i just wanted to do pacifist. but now... I'm sorta glad i didn't do genocide

[@nothijacked]

Seeing someone losing their mind over that fight feels way better than being on the receiving end. Thanks for playing this!

[@Thyyyyyyyyme]

I fucking love how he starts freaking out when Sans wakes up, only to be immediately shut up when he dies immediately after

[@kokosan09]

Joseph's reaction to hearing MEGALOVANIA for the first time is everything I could have hoped for and more 👌

[@maple...]

another reason the game makes it so tedious to kill every single enemy is the fact that it makes you actually glad to see another one you can kill. this is highlighted by the smiley that pops up. "finally, i can kill another one!" you think to yourself. you monster.

[@jamesbritt5353]

This Sans fight gives the " you'd be dead where you stand " threat a lot more weight damn.

[@leetshoe]

USE THE LAMPS! Third time and you STILL don't notice the lamps

[@straythrawn7861]

lamps?

[@captasticts8419]

Danielle Bradshaw in the room that gets dark after some seconds in the caves

[@straythrawn7861]

oh... yeah

[@tenki_]

every now and then i come back to the Undertale VODs just to see Joe get mindblown by the music

[@lucasgibson2131]

Joe’s reactions to Megalovania really make me wish I could listen to it for the first time again

[@LainKaplan]

The discussion at the end was well worth it. I think the read there was dead on. This was my first time watching the dialogue before the spoiler event, because I have played the game four times through, and I could not attack anything. I just couldn't do it.

[@andrew_cunningham]

3:09:04 Oh sweet Jesus... just a couple I can think of by... DM Dokuro The Great Anansi Nahu Pyrope The Musical Ghost Alex Hull Jeremiah George The Synthetic Orchestra Amella Nyx the Shield The Second Narrator RichaadEB insaneintherainmusic Alexander Rosetti _Me_

[@aturchomicz821]

what does Me mean

[@andrew_cunningham]

I used to make mediocre Undertale remixes. It seemed for a while that everyone and their grandma were making mediocre Undertale remixes... it was kind of a youtube cottage industry. All the other names are the real deal, though. They've got some real good stuff.

[@andrew_cunningham]

Was Sans' de-motivational dialogue of all things changed in a patch? This is like the extended edition director's cut version of his roast.

[@para9938]

it was a correction ; all the lines were already in the game since it's release, it was unused lines until Undertale 1.002

[@Beenters]

PING PING PING PING PING PING PING will forever haunt my dreams

[@Axel14753]

This is probably my favorite video on KZbin I have watched this at least 20 times, thanks Jo :)

[@afternoontaee]

i've never seen someone clear sans that fast blind. i know i'm 4 years late, but holy shit. i've seen people spend upwards of 10 hours in one go just trying to beat him. i have personally never beaten sans, i've gotten close, but i just barely cleared undyne and i have no hope that i'll ever clear him. this was insane, so glad you had a good experience with this game.

[@maple...]

Never give up man undyne is way harder than sans

[@afternoontaee]

@@maple... while i sincerely appreciate the sentiment, i abandoned the run like 6 months ago after running up 15 hours in game trying to beat him. but maybe one day i’ll go back and try again, just for laughs. and when i do beat him, i’ll keep your encouragement in mind :)

[@maple...]

@@afternoontaee good luck if you do! i also revoke my statement, sans is harder. i misremembered, because when i played it, after beating him i exited w/o saving and fought him again because i thought the fight was really fun. i think i went through genocide at least 3 times just to fight him, and naturally i fought sans more than undyne so undyne's was always harder (curse those damn yellow arrows) but yeah i didn't mean to make you or anyone feel bad for having trouble with him

[@DeathByMinnow]

Watching a blind playthrough hit the sans fight is ALWAYS a moment of pure joy for me.

[@RabbitTalk]

I love the genocide run... Especially after the pacifist run, Sans' dialogue really hits you... And then also the first few times of watching Sans f*** people up is fun... Also the Chara dialogue is great... And the other characters are good at making you feel bad when you kill them...

[@mikeshoe4779]

3:09:40 "haven't look up the rule 34 art yet. I mean.. Toriel.. No. No I don't think so" Me: omfg you have no idea

[@Firestar4041]

So much pronz!!!

[@LilyCat2399]

You did AMAZINGLY well at the Undyne fight. Props to you, mate!

[@PaddyRoon7]

Megalovania gets all the hype but honestly Battle Against a True Hero is simply one of the best songs I've heard in a game. It's unbelievably epic, I get shivers every time I hear that Piano.

[@bux68]

Not sure why this is appearing in my recommended 6 years later but it’s nice to see that people enjoy this game and that it’s still talked about today

[@eleanorcooke7136]

The genocide run comments on how far the player will go to find new dialogue and secrets. The game goes out of its way to make you the bad guy and give you the choice to do horrible things, which eventually, you will take the worst option to see what happens. The genocide run was made to be entirely the player's choice and be very tedious in order to hammer home the fact that the player us intentionally being evil and murdering innocent monsters. The tedious feel of the run is obviously intentional to stop the players from feeling bad about killing everything and to give a sense of satisfaction after grinding all the mobs in the area. The rate of encounters when the player has killed all the mobs are more common to give the impression that the player is looking for monsters to fight and becoming a predator. This brings a whole new meaning to the first genocide run as in the pacifist and neutral runs the player just encounters monsters and the player has to try to escape. Whereas the genocide player wants to fight and this provides a change of pace as the battles are shorter and most monsters aren't able to get in even one line of dialogue before they are obliterated. Only too late does the player realise their mistake, as Chara kills the player and takes control of the game without anyone, player or character, to stop them and it's all the player's fault.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

Sorry for the essay.

[@stygian6642]

I do heavily disagree with him on the subject of Alphys... she doesn't have two sides to her, and that's the point. The nerd who infodumps about anime is the same person who desecrated bodies. You don't have to be cruel, ruthless, or intimidating to do bad things. I think this drives home just how much this was a mistake for her. She could never intentionally hurt anyone.

[@DITZEE]

Yeah I had no idea what he was on about, I love alphys character lol

[@para9938]

"you'll need a cool mutant hand to count all your death" I thought it was a line unused by the game, but it happen randomly ?

[@para9938]

wait, it seem not ; even the next unused are now used ; was it something corrected in version 1.002 ?

[@lefthandedscout9923]

Para Junior all the unused sans dialogue as well as some dialogue box stuff in the fight like "felt like a turning point" some unused previously others entirely new

[@alwaysperil7611]

Joseph you did in 2 hours what I still haven't been able to do in over a year and that is to beat sans.

[@gabriellamorrison7567]

I hope when you replay to make an undertale video you use the "check" feature and check out the Chara is the flavor text theory

[@synka5922]

I never got around to play this game, I heard such great things so often. the way you played through it was pretty close to how I would have played it too. so this has been a great experience

[@godlyvex5543]

Little thing I don't see many people mention about sans' purple poison stuff is, that it's not actually poison. It makes the fight EASIER. His attacks, instead of reducing your health outright, it converts your health into purple health which decreases over time on it's own. If the purple health mechanic didn't exist, upon being reduced to 1 health you'd instantly die, but WITH the purple health mechanic, you're given a huge buffer to survive with 1 health. On the very last attack of the fight, this is demonstrated. His final attack heavily nerfs the purple health mechanic (to prevent you from buffering through the hard parts) so you die much faster with a shorter buffer. The downside to this mechanic is that healing to full health after being damaged doesn't get rid of the purple health, so you keep losing health even after healing to full. This downside doesn't really matter though, because you usually never heal yourself to full.

[@StrayCatAnimations]

Great videos, I really enjoyed them! I'm also pretty impressed with how thorough you are!

[@bluestrawberry679]

One of the things not enough people playing the genocide run know is that you don't actually have to worry about going to far without killing all the monsters, because if you actually try to do that the game will warn you about it

[@grktn3762]

Seriously? I didn't know that How does it do that? When I did genocide I just killed everybody in the first room lol

[@ExaltedUriel]

Actually, the only time it warns you is before you're about to cross the bridge before the Undyne fight. If you get close the dialogue box will come up in red saying "* Shouldn't proceed yet." You can still proceed despite this and botch the run but that's the only point where the game actually warns that you haven't met your quota before going to a new area.

[@meow-px6kk]

joseph: murders the entire underground sans: murders you joseph: youre making me hate you sans ...im sure the feeling is mutual lol great run, so fast, well done!

[@ВладимирКоролёв-х1м]

Wow, you managed to defeat Sans in just 1.5 hours? That was pretty.... SKULLFUL.

[@gonnerkat8753]

Sans does only 1 damage per attack. The removal of invincibility frames is the real kicker plus KR.

[@TheAudioInjection]

God, it took my days to beat Sans of just giving it a few tries here and there and needing a day to cool off but Joe did it in an hour and a half blind. Crazy

[@SamLoser2]

Wow, you beat Sans fairly quickly, and without the Instant Noodles OR the pie! That's really impressive.

[@aturchomicz821]

Since when does adding spiece make something a bit better?

[@aturchomicz821]

@Purple Citrine r/woosh

[@aturchomicz821]

@Purple Citrine says the guy who uses "u"

[@alastor8091]

@Purple Citrine sure, sure. Even though you cared enough to reply. Just stop being a stupid dick head. And if you don't care, next time (this time), don't bother replying.

[@funnylittlecreature]

atur chomicz People like you fucking suck. Also, r/im14andthisiswoooosh and r/itswooooshwith4os

[@Zack_Zander]

Who else hoped that he tried to spare Sans?

[@otterbeans]

The only thing I liked about the genocide route was that, the game was made that you could enjoy the final fight with sans (if you're that kind of masochist) and STILL go back and decide not to complete the genocide route, and it won't ruin your game forever. For that insane 1% that just wanted to fight Sans, not see what happens.

[@AussieGalblade]

This run warranted "Welcome to the Genocide Jungle"

[@captasticts8419]

2:13:33 nooo you already were on "check" why wouldn't you press it D:

[@theuncalledfor]

Three runs and you never once checked the lanterns in the darkening lantern room. How is this possible?

[@omegastar19]

When you replay a game you often tend to take the same paths, even if you dont intend to do it.

[@Hey-Its-Sara]

It's a shame you missed Sans's last dialog before the fight with his brother. He's one of the better parts of the genocide run, so I think his interactions are pretty important. Especially that one.

[@parkerfml4098]

Genocide and suicide are two very different things

[@Hey-Its-Sara]

@@parkerfml4098 Oops, yeah, I misspoke.

[@matthewstruble8881]

This was amazing! Thank you so much for uploading the vods

[@BarioIDL]

jerry is the strongest monster, it can tank your hits while sparing you, while most of the boss can be killed in one hit

[@coffeedude]

That's why nobody likes him

[@scarecrow7421]

Wow Joseph didn't even hesitate to attack Sans at 1 HP when Sans was sparing him.

[@shingshongshamalama]

When you shank Toriel and she gives you the "you hate me" speech, does she _know_ that she's really talking to Chara? It's eerie just how fitting her words are here if you remember the context of the backstory involved.

[@omegastar19]

It seems Toriel and Asgore are semi-aware of what is really going on on some instinctual level, probably because they are boss monsters, whereas Sans figured things out through science.

[@crypt5129]

She's not talking to Chara??

[@recon5588]

2:33:45 *apologizes for getting hit*

[@suyci]

In a sense you have to go out of your way to kill all the monsters, but the save points and Flowey do encourage you to start slaughtering everything almost like an objective. But it does take some determination to walk around so long to encounter them all

[@captasticts8419]

5:23:24 yeah cause i'm sure you're not doing genocide yet, seems normal up to this point, yeah

[@AnnNightNoxana]

His Dark Souls and Hollow Knight experience is really paying off in this playthrough.

[@thecrakp0t]

>Joe contemplates rule 34. >Smartly deduced that Undyne is popular. >Jokingly mentioned Toriel was probably popular too. >Back-tracked and said "I don't think so." ... you couldn't be more wrong. Whoever is making Toriel r34 is sub-human not worthy of basic rights. *starts handing out pitch forks*

[@aturchomicz821]

yeah but thats just the truth

[@straythrawn7861]

*TAKES PITCH FORK*

[@roseyy6265]

3:38:18 waiting for u to HEAL while ur on 1 hp and seeing u go attack him gave me SERIOUS ANXIETY MAN!!! XD

[@roseyy6265]

"I think we need to eat" good thinking XDXDD

[@internetman9354]

"best music in the game" Finale, death by glamour, Asgore, bring it on, hopes and dreams, battle against a true hero and core: are we joke to you?

[@tsusmildrides4937]

1:14:40 why? It felt rational because that's why she hated herself.

[@hadley269]

Hey Joe, I know this is a long time late but if you're still interested in doing genocide as your first playthrough you can go into the game's AppData and set all of the characters, everything's numerical value back to zero. It's even more of a reset than the "True Reset" because even at that point the game still remembers some stuff. You're probably not interested in it anymore, but if you just happen to be, here you go!

[@MoonyMoonzzi]

Will you do Deltarune?

[@aidanknox2430]

sans fight first time. still 2 hours left in stream. lol

[@LilyCat2399]

1:57:58 Dramatic Irony.

[@milkbox103]

aw, im sad he missed the "where are the knives" text in toriels house !!

[@milkbox103]

and the bad time dialogue before snowdin, nooo

[@BanangArang]

Round 3, FIGHT!

[@igoralves6006]

www.twitch.tv/videos/204955959 thats the Twitch VOD, for everyone who wants to watch it with chat.