Undertale Yellow - GENOCIDE ROUTE (Full Playthrough)

[@erikm8373]

Wait, I just realized how cool the final part of the Axis fight is. LOVE, Level of Violence, is specifically described as how easily you can bring yourself to hurt others, so when Axis admits they killed a human, it makes Clover jump a bunch of levels because it becomes so incredibly easy for them to kill Axis.

[@r3alityrjectna452]

oh my god that’s actually genius

[@wackbyte]

This part was literally so good and this is why i love it so much

[@nylana4552]

my view on that scene is that he got LV becuse of his soul trait, justice, the moment axis said he killed a human that made his soul power up and bring his full power out, clover starts seeing monsters more as killers that deserve death as punishment than he did while killing them all just becuse yes

[@i8chocolatecake995]

oooh thats so freaking cool shsgfjhcsfhfj

[@quackster3220]

Someone else talked about it but experience gained is from how *justified* a kill is. So that is prob why in pacifist route, when you kill ceroba, you don't gain any exp bcz killing ceroba was just and it served justice. Killing without reason is why you gain exp and is also could be why in the normal game why you get so much exp from killing undying and sans as their deaths are anything but deserved. Not *just* at all. Though, I think what you said is also kind of valid and I like seeing different standings on this. Who knows, maybe you get more exp on genocide route as the killing your doing is seen to just to clover, so instead of not gaining exp he gains exp so it's easier to make killing faster? Still lots of mystery on this game. Have a good day👍

[@endercongamer0125]

"You're not going to shoot that little monster are you...?" Shayy: "Yeah, in the face. Why?"

[@endercongamer0125]

​@@0zymandias_666 Oh

[@zatrioxjet7170]

@@0zymandias_666 Horner says "why" in the scene, not "watch".

[@flyfilo2437]

«Im going to give em a [[BIG SHOT]] alright…»

[@mrfrog0913]

Well ackhuale saying "yeah" to not doing somthing, means you will not do it. Shayy simply likes talking about heads. But I wouldn't expect this of an lower inteligance person such as yourself.🤓

[@K1ttyGam3r]

“You’re an irredeemable MONSTER!!” “Ohh! Oh! What took ya so long? Idiot!” *BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*

[@Shadest]

Clover was so pissed at Flowey that they were able to shoot him 8 times with a 6 shot revolver. Truly the most powerful human.

[@aboogala4678]

The bullets knew better than to not get in the gun

[@JERKOFFTOPOMNI]

Holy shit a ralsei

[@redred4378]

GTA 4 reference

[@hypothetic_]

inf ammo glitch

[@owenlee5296]

“I have 27 more rounds in this 2 round magazine”

[@anyoneattheendoftime4932]

I love how after Martlet, the chat was agonizing over an even more difficult Asgore boss fight, only for Clover to just vaporize him within a second.

[@mello-by]

Chat was baying for his blood lmao

[@twilightvulpine]

Asgore got robbed, as usual...

[@alicorn3924]

makes sense, moreso when at that moment Clover may have realized Asgore was the actual killer of (most of) the human children, and so powered up because of that.

[@darklink8423]

Clover: Take determination and justice, incorporate those expressions of malice into your soul and push out a vengeful mass. "Soul Magic Technique: Yellow"

[@desadograisedrobot515]

Is that a Hollow Purple reference?@@darklink8423

[@Connor_Kirkpatrick]

Martlet’s death followed by Flowey’s meltdown was haunting, gave me those chills I got from UT geno all those years ago. Incredible game.

[@GCalebB]

I share this pain with you...

[@furr63]

3:04:20 made me feel so bad 😭

[@MitrisStudio]

I'd reverse this, it was more like "Martlet's meltdown and floweys death"

[@xbirdshorts5075]

I am way too desentisized to care anymore tbh

[@Rodrigo-kq3js]

cheeky ​@@MitrisStudio

[@adreamofspring_wastaken]

Can I just say I love when it says "you are filled with a sense of justice"? Like, if every save point in this game said that, it would feel so damn corny. But that… that doesn't feel corny at all. It feels earned.

[@OffbrandDTraveler]

It kinda has the same energy of seeing Undertale’s “Determination.” for the first time

[@darksoulsismycity]

I was just surprised that on top of denying flowey's last mockery, Clover goes the extra mile and gains the ability to save not on Determination, but Justice alone. Above all else, this ending really just gives the player everything they could have possibly wanted, no strings attached. You defied every odd, completed your mission and emerged from the underground as an unstoppable monster killing machine.

[@lecommentar9851]

​@@darksoulsismycity I have a fan theory about this. I think all the SOULs could save based on their traits. They'd draw from the power and motivation of their trait to change fate to come back. They died because their motivations, worldview or else got crushed for one reason or another. But how do you crush Determination? The will to go forward, not for anything but for simply doing so? And that's why it's most powerful.

[@xboxoneyes7734]

​@@lecommentar9851that's explains Sans Dialogue after his Special Attack "no matter what, You'll just keep going,Not out of any desire for good or evil,But because you think you **can**,and because you "can", you **have to**" Theres absolutely no crushing that

[@lecommentar9851]

@@xboxoneyes7734 yes. And also my theory could tie into how every human soul has determination. It's probably created as a secondary trait from the primary traits motivations.

[@nmc123y]

1:37:37 To answer the question that came up in the chat: If you don’t shoot Starlo, he will shoot at Clover. But he’s using a fake gun, so the bullet will bounce on Clover’s head. Starlo then laughs says he can’t do it, and thanks Clover for letting him keep playing to be a sheriff. Then, Clover themself shoots Starlo.

[@flow185]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@-TJGR]

This betrayal would make me feel even worse than if I shot him in the duel

[@ma.2089]

That kinda sucks. I wish it was a real bullet, just cuz we know he’s willing to shoot Clover in the pacifist route.

[@marcosandrey5059]

I thought we were gonna like take it like nothing and it would bounce off or we would just slap it away anime style

[@n4n4sh1_]

​@@marcosandrey5059nah, even if we seem powerful in the game, the human would still die against a real weapon

[@delta_gon5277]

Asgore taking this human seriously when he never recognised frisk in the original genocide leads me to believe he runs off of doofenshmirtz logic. He can only recognize a human if they wear a hat.

[@merpymerpington9175]

I mean he’s more depressed after killing another human and waiting another handful of decades with that guilt

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

"A MONSTER!?" *hat* "A HUMAN!?"

[@abrahamo2895]

The way I see it, being given Clover’s soul sent Asgore into reclusion because he knew any day now that he’d have to do it, and he was so wrought with grief that he saw Frisk as Chara

[@Side-st6jo]

​@@abrahamo2895then why didnt he recognize frisk? he specifically states “What kind of monster are you?” personally, i believe this is because he's now a pushover and guilty after getting clover's soul, and frisk has been the longest wait for a human that he could've forgot what humans looked like.

[@KirbyGamerEX27]

I think hes confused becauses flowey probably mentioned the human a moster and he was confused because he couldn't tell if they're a monster species or a psycho. (Now that i mentionedit i never even heard of any monster calling a human a "monster" ​@Side-st6jo

[@loganrodgers7312]

I love the final fight alot, its like a clash between two conflicting purposes, clover is fighting for the 5 humans that were killed, and martlet fighting for all the monsters clover has killed. Its like a battle of *Justice*

[@hcn6708]

And yet, only one is justified

[@maila319]

​​You can make that point about UT genocide since Frisk chose to commit genocide out of curiosity but not really UTY genocide since the genocide run is the only run where Clover survives and fulfills their original mission. @@hcn6708

[@desadograisedrobot515]

It was basically a loop of reasoning. Clover fights for justice of the 5 kids while Martlet fights for the justice of the dead monsters. But Clover only fought because the 5 kids were killed and the five kids were killed because of the monsters. Everyone just caused everyone's problem.@@hcn6708

[@thatsmokerwasme]

​@hcn6708 Yep and it's Clover 🍀

[@ironicallyuncreative]

"It's Like Poetry, They Rhyme"

[@brotherrrr2]

Clover really said "Nah, I'd win" to Asgore

[@iantaakalla8180]

But as usual, Asgore thought he said something else and all the JJK fans got mad because of this transparent explanation for removing such an iconic line smh my head

[@mizzix]

More like asgore said "nah, id win" if you know the context of that jjk panel lmfao

[@xboxoneyes7734]

​@@mizzixdude made an entire monologue only to get immediately squashed

[@darklink8423]

Clover: Take determination and justice, incorporate those expressions of malice into your soul and push out a vengeful mass. "Soul Magic Technique: Yellow"

[@crowsenpai5625]

(Breaks Trident) “Fuck the Canon Timeline.” [JUSTICE BEAM]

[@khgaming_kai]

I'd like to think the genocide route here isn't based around justice, but instead it's twisted version: vengeance. Sure vengeance can feel justified in the moment, but there's a difference between the two. Vengeance is largely negatively emotional, but justice is something that's done to do what's right. In pacifist, clover wanted justice for the humans and not to let their deaths be in vain, but also justice for the monsters trapped for so long. Genocide... well it's all a twisted "justice" for the fallen humans

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

It's a beautiful contrast between the routes!

[@PoyoPowerPlant]

Hey mate! Also, yeah, I can totally see the vengeance around this route. It's definitely not fair to murder innocent monsters countless times to avenge a few morally ambiguous humans; that's hardly justice.

[@manulische]

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

Clover knows the RULES OF NATURE@@manulische

[@CaptainOfTheLeviathan]

Monsters: Give us another chance- Clover: *What about them? Did you give them a chance?*

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

3 hours of regular Genocide, 3 hours of a blue bird repeatedly hammering Shayy's balls.

[@adamclarke6709]

Should've teched.

[@zeo4481]

@@adamclarke6709 Oh ye? What's the tech boy!?

[@donovanmahan2901]

@@zeo4481 the X button, supposedly.

[@foodiswonder8998]

god i wish that were me

[@palestjade]

@@foodiswonder8998 EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

[@MonoStick]

I can just imagine how confused Shayy must've been when he noticed Martlet didn't die in one hit like Papyrus does

[@JadeTheProtogen1]

Hehe. She's stronger than she looks. Plus Clover has morals. He'll settle things their way... but martlet is... well i had to cheat to beat her.

[@MonoStick]

Bold of you to assume Clover is male Also, I took cheated by tampering with my SAVE file several times. Fucking chemistry minigame

[@itanashi.1316]

​@@JadeTheProtogen1 how bro?

[@JadeTheProtogen1]

@@itanashi.1316 give myself a stronger ammo

[@aperson6637]

@@JadeTheProtogen1 how did u do that

[@daniellejackson6543]

1:24:11 I think speedrunning genocide routes for like 1-3 years has finally got to him!

[@Bd-qs5bn]

You can say that every evil laugh

[@RenTheFen]

during my genocide run I thought the music that plays at the last few monsters was out of place. But now I get it. The oddly upbeat music symbolizes clover's corrupt sense of justice, and thus plays a song to further that facade, though it of course fades more and more into the nothingness of silence.

[@strokey5284]

Freakin brilliant

[@peeka_]

all the genocide tracks share the same leitmotif in them - Enemy Retreating. The song itself is upbeat and is supposed to be motivating you to finish the job in the area, and when it kicks in in other tracks, that's doing the same thing. You KNOW you're gonna win, and the tracks start to reflect this.

[@Guest2501]

Also when it slows down the drums sound like gun shots especially since there is 6 before the main part start

[@pokestyn]

I love the genocide route in this game because while still evil, compared to the original there is a legitimate justification here. Clover came for the humans, and took revenge for them essentially. It’s not completely justified but I think it’s still really interesting

[@royalehighnewschooler]

I agree

[@NonyaBsnes]

It's not justified at all but it is indeed a reason

[@aintthatwacky3858]

I find it cool because clover isn't you but a real character thus why chara never appears because the player actions are made by Clover and Clover only

[@brawlmaster0190]

​​@@aintthatwacky3858Chara doesn't appear because they possess the same soul type as Frisk, and that's what made them awaken

[@aintthatwacky3858]

@@brawlmaster0190 i mean, ig. But i suppose chara is supposed to be you, since they use the name that you gave to frisk.

[@epicdudes64]

The fact that the live stream was 6+ hours long and this video is only 3 hours really shows how fucking hard the final boss is.

[@rawa89ahmurad]

Asgore is SO hard it took me two months. But at least I clapped ceroba and Marlet no hit

[@flowey-UT-7]

@@rawa89ahmuradlol

[@TZZV]

@@rawa89ahmurad i'd clap ceroba.. not in game

[@CookerX32]

@@TZZVplease pull the plug

[@TZZV]

@@CookerX32 nuh uh

[@Roviela]

Clover and floweys relationship was like a failed marriage

[@RealNikTrustMe]

i was gonna contest it by saying clover shoots flowey in the face multiple times but that just makes it more american

[@CJSpider10]

@@RealNikTrustMeyou don’t do that?

[@KiwiMeowo]

This is literally what I thought when clover kills flowey, "Oh well twisted relationship it is then"

[@revriee]

​@@RealNikTrustMe accurate depiction of an american divorce ceremony

[@DisbinguishedYT]

Something I really like about the marlet fight at the end is that they actually have the first turn, not because they’re breaking the rules of the game like sans, but in snowdin they let you go first just to play fair, but after you’ve killed everyone they don’t want to anymore

[@fedethegreat88]

In Pacifist Martlet specifies the handbook says to "let your opponent have the first move" which means monsters are _willingly_ letting you go first, except Ceroba (because you just killed Starlo) and Zenith Martlet (you know why)

[@fezmasterr]

​@@fedethegreat88 I like to think that in the pacifist, you aren't the enemy, just a little guy trying to survive. But in genocide, you really are an opponent, someone who needs to be stopped as they are killing with little rhyme or reason.

[@BlazerMinecrafter]

Holy shit the moment with flowey at the end was fucking perfext, you can literally feel flowey get desperate and realize how screwed he is

[@mello-by]

The point where the fight starts is so good. You can practically see Clover pulling their gun and Flowey’s eyes going to it. Ohhhh it’s delicious

[@pumpkinsoda9017]

nobody is immune to the freudian slip

[@colekiesler6218]

Just like in Undertale I still find the genocide route to be the most chilling when it comes to choices. I mean the fact that even Clover hides there face in this route shows that there is no turning back now. Really love this fan game and its detail hope one day Toby himself will discover this and see how far the team made this as a gift for him and the fans.

[@ad51603]

Knowing Toby he probably has followed the development of the game since the demo released. Would be neat to see an UTY easter egg or something in a future DR chapter

[@Eraser_Tracer]

I mean, the team asked Toby before it was made and it was approved by him. So he’s certainly _aware_ of it.

[@kschwal]

@@Eraser_Tracer Holy shit, really? /pos

[@Eraser_Tracer]

@@kschwal Yea. /gen

[@charifamilyguy]

Wtf are these tone indicators dawg

[@well3669]

Can’t believe he had the strength to do this not too long after pacifist

[@Lissy_YT481]

Determination can do anything...

[@47northm]

@@Lissy_YT481well not make my dad come back with the milk

[@ficothedepressed]

​@@47northmYou sure? Isn't that him outside the window?

[@Poja_0811]

​@@ficothedepressednah it's just the weird guy that lives in the trash, what was his name? Uuhhhhh spamton? Idk i never spoke to him

[@isaaclourenco3044]

​@@Poja_0811wait....isnt spamton selling dads on the window?

[@brawlmaster0190]

3:13:56 Clover was smart killing Flowey early. Now they can have Asgore's Soul and with their genocide, served justice for the other humans that have perished

[@zeo4481]

Even tho it isn't cannon, that ending is still very cool

[@Mr.Knightman912]

A very short game (or just an animation) of Frisk's journey after Clover's genocide run would be an interesting "what-if" scenario. Or maybe not...

[@brawlmaster0190]

@@Mr.Knightman912 So basically, Horrortale but without the actual horror aspect (In Horrortale, Undyne becomes the new ruler after Asgore's death)

[@GodLimone]

​@@Mr.Knightman912Dunno if frisk would even go there, since he kinda "solved" everything... He crossed the barrier and destroyed monsterkind in a way

[@X-SPONGED]

​@@GodLimonehe never broke the barrier, he passed through it. Clover has no interest breaking the barrier since that would just undo the imprisonment these monsters "deserve"

[@char42068]

Something which I accidentally encountered before, if you don't get the entire kill count before the dancing guy appears, he still does, triggering an alt battle with him, you don't actually use the dance mechanic and instead slowly drain his health as he gets depressed, really changes the mood of the fight

[@mizzix]

I accidentally forgot to kill some monsters earlier, and that happened, i was expecting a super difficult boss but it just made me really sad instead, it's harder to kill enemies when they don't want to fight back lmfao

[@_red_crewmate]

@@PhilAndMind I'm sure this was intended. Clover was dancing to the music during the original fight with El Bailador - they weren't weighted down by fear or guilt. Unlike the battle you're talking about, which absolutely didn't have the mood for dancing. Also, spoilers, dude! Shayy didn't do the neutral route yet!

[@gamertypeawesome]

​@@_red_crewmateactually the dodging is geno exclusive, not the dancing being pacifist exclusive. the kill barrier is before seeing martlet which lets you fight bailador then get the rest

[@_red_crewmate]

@@gamertypeawesome I knew that at the time, but I appreciate that you pointed it out anyway, since I didn't make this clear. And now that I look at this again, it isn't that Clover was "weighed down" by feelings, more that they were solely focusing on the mission of revenge and saw El Bailodor as nothing more than an obstacle or a distraction. I don't see why I didn't realize that back then (it's pretty obvious), but I do lack the context since I can't see the comment I replied to anymore...

[@gamertypeawesome]

@@_red_crewmate cool 👍 I like when internet conversations rarely have nice endings

[@cheezemuffin5816]

I dead ass thought they would pull a your choices don’t matter with the Asgore fight but Clover really just straight up Dragon Ball Z’d his ass breaking up all the theories I’ve accumulated in my head for the past 3 hours of watching this.

[@donovanmahan2901]

"you're not dealing with the average human soul anymore"

[@ErrorNamenotfound-mx7bv]

Clover just performed the damn Kamehameha XD

[@NeonBlueLight]

​@@ErrorNamenotfound-mx7bv Nah that was a full on final flash

[@ErrorNamenotfound-mx7bv]

@@NeonBlueLight lol... no we're both wrong... ITS THE SUPER LASER PISS! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA?! HE PISSED ON THE KING YOU IDIOT!

[@esare7291]

bro used the galik gun

[@steeleallen8474]

This route doesn’t feel as “pure evil” as UT’s. Sure, you’re defintally not a great person, but you’re not trying to kill EVERY NPC. Only the ones that attack you. Clover just wants vengeance for the 5 dead humans and to escape the underground.

[@Dominic13337]

I don't understand where the last 8 levels came from though since you only gain 200 EXP from martlet

[@RatchetTheCat]

​@@Dominic13337i think clover generated them out of will alone or smth

[@fruitwagon9275]

@@RatchetTheCat Which feels cheap since that's not how it's described to work in UT

[@Rayqson]

@@fruitwagon9275 It actually does make sense to how it works in Undertale. LOVE (LV) is described by Sans as ''Level of Violence'' or rather; ''A way of measuring one's capacity to hurt.'' Once Axis said ''I was forced to neutralize that human.'', that made Clover, having the Yellow heart Element of Justice, so incredibly enraged that his will to kill became so much he gained levels from his sheer rage alone because he sees the murder of his kind as unjustified, raising his capacity to hurt, thus, raising his Level of Violence, or willingness to hurt, because he's also completely past logical and emotional reasoning at this point. This is the second time, actually, first time this was seen in Clover was when he was talking to Martlet, she also said ''You want to believe that every human was pacifistic'', implying not every human has been peaceful before, thus they needed to be killed, probably also in self-defense but also for them to escape the underground, but Clover doesn't have enough empathy to see it from the monsters' perspective in this route. This is showcased by Clover taking a step forward and pulling his gun at Martlet before she can even finish her sentence. It's the same ''You wanting a way out of the Underground does not justify killing innocent humans.'' thought that makes Clover angry as seen in Axis' fight. We never see Level Up's during battles because the XP is just a way to measure one's level of violence. Frisk never had emotional or personal reasons to get angry/get violent in a reaction to what characters said, but Clover did. Thus, Frisk always gained XP passively, but Clover in this instance, gained levels because of this rage.

[@dannytheuncanny5176]

​@@Rayqsonlegit the right explanation, tho clover has been described using they pronouns so yea

[@amerikakus2114]

I find this ending really interesting as this is the only way clover is able to take his revenge. Being a pacifist was good overall but in the end he gave up his quest and sacrificed himself for the killers he came there to stop which connected with og undertale. The neutral endings from what I have heard , still end the same with flowey resetting because he thinks clover is a failure.Only inn failed pacifist are you able to fight but even then, clover gives up ,he doesnt get his revenge.Only with vengeance is clover able to finish his quest for justice. He even powers up when he realizes he is fighting agains a human murderer , proving that he still believes he is bringing justice.

[@raysomethingsomething]

Nah. The neutral ending ends with Flowey resetting for a better outcome In a variant of Pacifist (failed pacifist?) he dies to Asgore

[@amerikakus2114]

​@@raysomethingsomething thank you, just watched the neutral and failed pacifist ending. You are right

[@leritykay8911]

Justice and revenge aren't the same thing. Depending on who you ask, forwarding the cause of freeing monsters trapped underground is a much bigger act of justice than avenging five kids

[@blastoise8udaboss993]

​@@leritykay8911While not the same, true, they can be interpreted as two sides of the same coin. What we see as blind vengeance may have, to Clover, been true Justice.

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

they*

[@lolmanmagee2785]

i really appreciate how clovers version of genocide differs from frisks. he was there on a mission to save the souls and did not kill monsters unless they attacked him. (several NPCs in snowdin/wild west are unkillable) even if eventually LV corrupted his moral compass, i find it interesting that he had one to begin with.

[@sheogorath6834]

"he was there on a mission to save the souls and did not kill monsters unless they attacked him." They got out of their way to kill every encounters in each area (even in the Steamworks, despite the fact that they're just robots). "(several NPCs in snowdin/wild west are unkillable) " Like in Undertale.

[@lolmanmagee2785]

@@sheogorath6834 in undertale there are actually very few un-killable overworld NPCS in geno. Only shop temmie, gerson and B pants come to mind and they kinda get a pass as shop keepers and as for actual overworld NPCS, I’m not sure if there are any besides monster kid. Though you do canonically attempt to kill him.

[@gamerdomain6618]

@@lolmanmagee2785 Well, it's moreso the majority of overworld NPCs evacuate in UnderTale genocide while many more stick around and are let be by Clover. I think to say that he's acting in self-defence is wrong, though. Flowey goes out of his way to complain about how impractical it is to slaughter so many extra people, so it's arguably unfair to say that. It's more like he's going out of his way to judge anyone who would either willingly try to kill a human or try to rescue anyone belonging to the former. He's sticking around in each area for so long specifically to weed out anyone who might ever bring themselves to kill another human in the future, since he believes the punishment for doing so should be death.

[@GodLimone]

​I think clover saw monsters as a way to get stronger. Afterall, he knew he wouldn't be able to face the tougher monsters ahead if he wasn't strong enough... he was on a mission, even if through a warped sense of justice, he still didn't lose track of his goal in the end@@sheogorath6834

[@mello-by]

Clover’s story is a moral dilemma and Frisk’s is a question of autonomy. One is a fully fleshed out, autonomous character and the other is an extension of the human player. I absolutely love their contrast.

[@_freaky]

Shayy when mercilessly killing the underground:😀 Shayy when breaking Penilla’s pencil in half:😭

[@SynisterJeff]

"Oh a save point, better save. Oh, a sign on the wall, let's read it. Wow, what a read. Better save so I don't lose my progress of reading that sign since my last save."

[@hboogy101]

i do this too to some extent, in the rare case that interacting with small things (including signs) changes something down the line

[@ilexdiapason]

it's more worth doing this in yellow than in default because flowey has three times the dialogue of all the save points

[@dumpingstirs1143]

I find it kind of interesting that when Martlet tells Clover she's done fighting, they willingly lower their weapon and let the fight just...end. More than that, they let her leave. A little weird, considering they *started* the fight without being prompted, but maybe there was still something in Clover that was riding the self-defense train, so when she insists that she isn't gonna fight anymore, they're fine with ending it there. She's not in their way anymore, after all.

[@parsifal8186]

I think that’s just because she uses her own Flee option lol

[@sugarette_burn]

I like to think that Clover listened to her, when she talks about believing that there are friendly humans (unlike him) and that she dreams of a world when they coexist with monsters. It's one of her last dialogues in the snowdin fight, so it aligns with Clover letting her go

[@dsdude8441]

3:10:56 you know he's made a huge impact when merely walking in that corridor sends chills down your spine

[@Awesomeflame16]

Ceroba really just sprinting full speed and performing a sans maneuver by attacking first. She became the main character for a moment.

[@Spiralredd]

Ngl that opening is easy to figure out. But the fight is brutal so it doesn't matter anyway. I've heard trial by fury so many times it's burned in

[@ninjathis3009]

Interesting how the genocide route really paints the difference between EXP and LV. It I guess 'proves', with what Clover showed at the end of the Axis fight, you could have a very high amount of LV and intent to kill, without ever actually having executed someone before. Just kinda neat.

[@blueskythlikesclouds]

I was not expecting an alternative timeline, holy shit was expecting flowey to go "i had enough of your shit" and reset back to the beginning

[@justagoofyahhusername]

Same here

[@tf2keller398]

I mean, that’s exactly what Flowey tried doing. But Clover wanted justice so much he overrode his attempts and even used the saves against him.

[@funninoriginal6054]

​@@tf2keller398 "This got way out of hand, time for me to fix thin-" "Nuh uh" "Fym nuh uh? **get's one shot** "

[@asierx7047]

If you don't kill all of the robots and get a failed genocide, flowey essentially does that.

[@bozoloko224]

​@@tf2keller398s02222

[@PrimalGoat]

I gotta say, I love how Enemy Fleeing incorporates itself into the boss songs

[@Magoflipante85]

I really like how the different routes all take on their own interpretation of justice. Makes it more interesting imo

[@TheGhostInThePhoto]

The genocide route of this game can be pretty well described with a certain Latin legal phrase: “Fīat iūstitia ruat cælum.” “Let justice be done though the heavens fall.”

[@shinysaur4492]

That last segment with Flowey had some 10/10 voice-acting. Like DAMN.

[@justagoofyahhusername]

Yeah, I did not know he could pull off an evil laugh like that but props to him

[@Dblrblx]

Timestamp?

[@shinysaur4492]

@@Dblrblx 3:04:51

[@JoyOfCreativeService]

I'm surprised chat didn't notice that Shayy said "I waid laste" at 1:24:39 Also, I'm glad Shayy noticed the unique sound when you use the friendliness pellets! I believe it's the File Loaded sfx from the Photoshop Flowey battle, since you're LOADing the bullets. EDIT: It's actually the File Saved sound, but my point still stands

[@simonrytkonen-he8rh]

Nice pun

[@CalamitasCalliope]

Personally, i love this geno much more than og Undertale's. The biggest reason is that none of the main route bosses become one shot kills(aside from Lone Star, but he gets replaced with a cooler boss so that works out). And the bosses are much more diverse, with basically every single boss after Snowdin having a unique mechanic just for them. This game is so good

[@3k0o_x]

Nothing beats og undertale

[@Glitch_Real]

They become oneshots, because of THE POWER OF D E T E R M I N A T I O N. Also dont forget sans in og Undertale genocide

[@Roto3]

LOVE make it so you can One shot your enemies.

[@gigogrom216]

yeah but that kinda breaks the philosophy of Undertale

[@gotyourheartinaheadlock]

​@@3k0o_xnot really

[@DashiellQwerty]

I love how chat’s split reaction for every kill was “NOOOOOO” “LMAAAOOOOO” and “rip bozo”

[@Oldney]

Eight years later and Flowey sprites still find new ways to unsettle me. Feck.

[@bluelite-sr]

1:11:20 "If you've played OneShot before, playing Undertale Yellow feels like playing Solstice." Holy shit you're right. I had the same feeling, just didn't have that comparison in mind while playing.

[@hcn6708]

Lots of corn

[@MikeJoe-jy5kp]

True

[@ksawerx9277]

Fun fact: shay didn't do it in this playthrough, but if you try to get the golden bandana the frogits will just throw the chest out to you and close the door. Even they are scared. Also, if you don't wipe out all enemies in ruins before decibat you can fight them. Same goes with el baildor. The former is basically the same, but baildor does have slightly different dialogue from neutral kill.

[@StrwbryWhtChcltWhtStrwbryChclt]

I was wondering why they didn't appear

[@papyrusse.]

Well yeah, shayy did a pretty Bad genocide route, he missed decibat and el bailador (while el bailador has a really interesting fight in genocide) and he even missed the Gunpowder and the golden bandana... ​@@StrwbryWhtChcltWhtStrwbryChclt

[@SemiHypercube]

You know as I was playing the pacifist route I was wondering where the game was going to go with the genocide route. I was definitely not expecting it to go this way, wow

[@3bod1OOOOOO]

And you would definitely not expecting where natural path goes

[@tristanraine]

Ngl I thought due to the fact that Clover dying being canon would end up him dying anyway in this route but NOPE, NEW TIMELINE BABY, JUSTICE PREVAILS

[@Dblrblx]

HE BROKE THE CANON EVENT!

[@autonomousanonymous6310]

It... almost reminds me of the weird route, in a way. Doing absolutely everything in your power to tear fate off the rails and make your own ending. In any other game I'd feel like they just non-diegetically decided to take the story in a different direction, but, well... this is Undertale. You exist, and your actions as a player are *always* being accounted for. The game even seems to try and draw attention to this, what with Flowey calling Asgore's palace a "coffin" and Asgore himself saying that Clover's "fate was sealed the moment they entered his kingdom", only for that to... not even be the case

[@demongirlfriend]

but in the end, the canon of undertale still wins. there's a reason you never see clover exit to the surface - the moment the genocide run finishes, it ceases to exist

[@santiagojoaquinrojas9435]

​@@demongirlfriendNot really, it keeps existing, we just don't see the aftermath (though yeah, the canon does win in the end, but that doesn't mean the genocide route doesn't exist)

[@SamiTheAnxiousBean]

In the new patch they HAVE TO write in a joke in the other routes about that plant (2:42:33) where you get told off for not knocking first before starting conversation would be better then fixing it imo Also yes was confused about that plant aswell on my run

[@poppip10]

i think it’s intended as a reference to the sans shortcut in undertale, but i definitely agree

[@adamixziober]

in undertale, you fight a skeleton comedian that turns out to be a royal judge in undertale yellow, you fight a bird that turns into the sword from terraria

[@tyomich_zakuro]

I think Genocide Route is the most logical route in Undertale: Yellow from the side of story. Clover goes to the mountain with a GUN to avenge the past people. What else do you think they're going to do with the monsters?

[@dmclsl03]

Clover mission was finding them, they had no idea they were dead not until finding out way later bruh

[@tyomich_zakuro]

@@dmclsl03 Quite a lot of time has passed between the falls of people. Obviously, they are all dead.

[@Langtree]

​@@tyomich_zakuroI don't think it would be too unbelievable that at least a few people in universe might have had kept hope that the other humans somehow survived through monster magic stuff

[@tyomich_zakuro]

@@Langtree Clover is surely not that type of person.

[@randomlyannoying]

But Clover brought a BB gun to a dark cave where their friend went missing. I feel like that's pretty justified without the intention to kill things

[@PEACHiiMio]

I was *not* expecting the genocide route to deviate from the canon. I’m honestly shocked by it and … wonder what becomes of clover once they return to the surface. This was incredibly sad to see and amazing work to the team that made it. Thanks for playing and uploading to KZbin!

[@hcn6708]

tbf I don't see them living a good or happy life after that

[@PEACHiiMio]

@@hcn6708 I don't really see how this is relevant... ^^;

[@hcn6708]

@@PEACHiiMio You did say wondered what becomes of Clover, no?

[@PEACHiiMio]

​@@hcn6708 okay.. yeah. My bad. It was a rhetorical question so when I re-read my comment I just missed that part of my initial comment. Sorry about the previous response.

[@twilightvulpine]

Frankly breaking canon soured the whole thing to me. Rather than a complementary fan story, it felt disrespectful to the original.

[@VennNovember]

i suffer from terminal skill issue, and as such wasn't able to finish this route for myself, so thanks for this! my favorite part was when clover said "it's clovin' time" and then clovered all over the place

[@butterspike680]

I honestly love UTY Geno route so much. Instead of determination, the game begins to twist and distort the feeling of "Justice" Clover is meant to represent. Monsters already took the life of 5 careless humans who happened to fall down, so isn't this retaliation a way to bring Justice to them? Slay the monsters in return? An eye for an eye? It's very interesting to see.

[@alexandermerrell5856]

That last fight was HARD. I had to reset to bring better items just to beat it. Congrats on persevering, Shayy!

[@zuzu2971]

Fr it took me like 5 hours to beat But i mean pacifist axis took me 4 so maybe im just bad

[@chriscofer6780]

​@@zuzu2971fr I thought sans was easier than this, but I beat sans a hundred times already.

[@vince_x_san]

​@@chriscofer6780, sans is easier. Martlet makes me feel like i'm burning in hell.

[@sholamakinde430]

dont you just LOVE when your love goes up? this video is a perfect example of this and i really felt shayy's joy while playing this just the look on those monsters' faces as they fall to dust, its amazing, dont you think?

[@JHorst-r2u]

I found Flowey!

[@cuptopus]

edgelord

[@sholamakinde430]

@@cuptopus just getting into the genocidal spirit y'know? =)

[@cuptopus]

@@sholamakinde430 💀 dawg what

[@gargabarg]

flowey any progress on the souls

[@mello-by]

2:38:59 I’m obsessed with this dialogue 😂 “it’s okay to bite Flowey because he doesn’t have hands.”

[@theorangeoof926]

This entire play through was the entire epiphany of “Let justice be done, though the world perish”

[@Abyss25]

I like how everything with Axis was flipped in geno. The chase scene, the out-gunning, even the tick-o-meter in the fight, with Clover's tick meter being their soul shaking

[@natecgames4612]

Im glad that not only does geno have more content than "neutral but with less puzzles and two new bosses" but also has a bit of justification to it. Clover specifically leaps into the underground from the mountain in search of the 5 missing people, so not only does he see everyone as a threat, but when hes told they feel justified for killing the 5, it makes sense that he wouldn't stop at just monsters that attacked him but monsters and their robotic helpers as a whole. As far as we know, Frisks fall was implied to be purely accidental and is never confirmed that thye even know the 6 people who were missing, meaning undertale geno is potentially just killing for the sake having the ability to kill without consequences. Im not saying that that is a weak reasoning for geno, it just makes more sense to kill a society actively looking to kill you for their cause than one that is most times indifferent towards their own cause. Edit: I see no sources saying Clover uses they/them pronouns. The only guesses that were made is that they're gender is interpretive or that they are bigender (he/she pronouns). Please stop arguing about how I said Clover is a he twice.

[@wiggyboo4964]

exactly!! this games geno route feels a lot more necessary to have the full games experience, wish the final boss was nerfed but overall amazing. also clover uses they/them btw

[@natecgames4612]

@wiggyboo4964 Sorry about that. I mostly thought it was like Frisk in 2015 where their gender was up for interpretation (at least from what I heard from the Fandom back then) where Clover being a boy fit best imo. I tend to do that with a lot of characters that are ambiguous or have no gender as well, purely out of ignorance of the fact. I won't edit the comment to cover my mistake but rather use it as a template to learn from.

[@k2ggers961]

Pretty sure they just call Clover "they" because monsters don't really get human biology and there's no way for them to tell so they just stick to the gender neutral option@@wiggyboo4964

[@hayleycakes3435]

​@@natecgames4612no you're right, it is up to your interpretation. No need to apologize over something so ridiculous as gender pronouns for a fictional character in a video game. Clover, a male or attack helicopter or whatever you want to call him, came down for revenge and justice. He had a purpose, kind of, for being here. In undertale it all seems accidental

[@mello-by]

Undertale’s genocide is perfect narrative framing because of the game’s emphasis on determination, and the contrast between it’s Geno and paci. It’s meant to be divine horror, if you will; “Frisk” is the extension of the player, a higher being. Frisk is *your* will. Their actions never need to be justified because the point is that they’re not; they’re the manifestations of cruel higher being who doesn’t consider the lives they’ve taken as having value. Frisk’s actions are never justified because the player’s actions aren’t; we see ourselves as “just playing a video game”; therefore, Frisk doesn’t have the emotional capacity to make empathetic decisions. I love Clover because of how well they contrast with Frisk; they are indubitably their own character with distinct autonomy different from that of the human player. The game attempts to justify or explain their actions to compensate for that. The devs did an excellent job and for that reason Clover is more of a character, and less of an allegory like Frisk is. That said, I would’ve loved if Undertale Yellow leaned into the human player as an actual character the same way the original Undertale did.

[@Elix111]

In Undertale, pacifist is your mission, in Undertale Yellow, *K I L L O R B E K I L L E D*

[@tomatogenesis]

I can't believe is actually a thing you can watch now. Back then it turned into nothing but a faraway dream with each passing day! I still can't believe it's here now, this is truly the power of determination.

[@MutedAndReported3032]

Omg this geno route is so well made. They managed to make it feel so much more… despicable, revolting and evil than the original UT’s geno route. It’s so good that I hate it.

[@berrydelightdiwizin]

Because in the base Undertale, Frisk just simply kill because the player wants so. But for Clover it's a twisted sense of justice.

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

I dont see it tbh. Like in Undertale Frisk kills just out of curiosity and there is overall literal demonic aura do everything they and Chara do that just feels explicitly evil. While Clover has justification to an extent.

[@bumbabees]

@@mechamedegeorge6786 i mean, not really. committing genocide on monsters is not going to bring the dead humans back. it doesnt solve anything. id understand (to a degree) if they just killed asgore or something, anybody else who was directly involved, but they killed way more than that. once you start involving people who had nothing to do with what youre angry about, you lose all justification.

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

@@bumbabees To be fair to Clover the route makes a lot more sense after the neutral, pacifist and flawed pacifist routes

[@Cheerybelle]

It's so cathartic and gratifying that there *_IS_* an ending to Undertale Yellow that isn't a massive gutpunch. ...for the player, anyway. It's worse than a gutpunch for the monsters, but, y'know... "That's the Power of LOVE"; "LOVE Bites"; et cetera; insert songs with plays-on-words with the word love as LOVE here. Uh... "C'est LOVE Vie"? Is that anything?

[@netyclovery3507]

My jaw dropped many times while watching this. Omg…. how many efforts did devs put into the game?! TBH, I like this even more than Pacifist route. So many animations and scripts that made huge emotional impact!! So fricking Well done! Thanks a bunch to Shayy as well for playing this! Wow. You have done so many hard work too.

[@jma0645]

You killed 5 humans and that's what you get *MY SUPER LASER PISS* 3:13:30

[@PersonYayyy]

YOU’LL DIE BY [SUPER LASER] [pipis]

[@Grey-imposter]

​@@PersonYayyynow's your chance to be a [BIG SHOT]

[@CJSpider10]

You have [24 Hours] until the piss droplets hit the Earth!

[@TheLegendaryColorFixer_REDMIST]

JUDEGEMENT - King Mino- I mean Clover

[@CarbonMonoxide798]

​@@CJSpider10NOW GET OUTTA MY SIGHT BEFORE I PISS ON YOU TOO

[@Entrominal]

The six shot revolver with the flint bullets is the real boss fight. Ceroba is just who you are using it against.

[@quinnlee-miller9792]

The funny thing is, I think this is the canonnical first ending Clover gets; Flowey mentions "dead ends" but think about it. Clover came here with a mission and is dead set on doing it, so they go through delivering "Justice" to the monsters, but feeling worse and worse and worse for it the entire time. Finally, they come to get "Justice" on Asgore and fucking succeed; they find the Souls and go to leave the Underground, but we don't see that for sure. If Clover had control over the Save File, I think it's at this point, the point where they achieve their goal that makes them feel the hollowest. The Souls wouldn't just go with Clover either, I feel, and what could Clover do to them? I feel this is where they True Reset, giving Flowey his powers back, but wiping both of their memories, except a distinct feeling that perhaps they shouldn't kill so indiscriminately. That's my take at least; there's no real proof, but this really feels like a "first ending" situation, where a villain bent on Justice goes about it their own way, but ruins the lives of so many people along the way. At the end, they wrestle control from Flowey, and make the decision to rewind it all, at the very end of their journey, to make amends. Clover probably goes Neutral at this point, killing Axis for killing another person, soaring Martlet and Starlo, maybe not Cerosa, and trying to be nice. Yet again, it fails and finally understanding what true Justice is, Clover lets go of his Soul and waits.

[@Waaz732]

Clover has asgore's soul, they could absorb the human souls because of that I think. What they decide to do after becoming a god I have no idea.

[@hellhound74]

Clover never had control of the timeline, that's a power only determination can have which is why flowey is at all the save points, no matter how powerful clover gets it dosent matter since flowey controls the timeline until frisk falls down

[@quinnlee-miller9792]

@@hellhound74 did you really miss the fact that Clover took over saving and loading at the end or? Flowey tried killing him, then running, but was always reset to where he was.

[@hellhound74]

@@quinnlee-miller9792 yes, yes I did miss that

[@twilightvulpine]

I was hating this ending for breaking canon and validating such a twisted sense of "justice" with power ups out the wazoo, but if that is the intended order of events it makes more sense. Because there is no way to call this disproportionate retribution "justice". Targeting Asgore and the Royal Guard is fair. There is some tenuous justification for fighting everyone who tried to attack you, but even that only makes sense if you overlook that monsters sometimes just use magic casually for expression and they don't realize that's dangerous to humans. But outrighty hunting down every last monster is pure psychopathy, not a drop of justice to be had there. What is this, the law of the jungle? Might makes right? Not to mention that it is incredibly unjust for a whole population to be trapped like they are. Clover getting away with this is outrageous. But if whatever sense of justice they have demands them to undo this, maybe there is something there after all.

[@vitorhenriquefarias8916]

i love how a thing this game kept consistent with og undertale (besides many things) is that the monsters who surive the genocide route are npcs and shopkeepers

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

The ending of this one is much more positive than in Undertale. You escaped with the souls, freeing them and yourself of the Underground. While Frisk erased the Underground, Clover leaves it behind and continues living.

[@MutedAndReported3032]

So it’s more negative.

[@Dark_Slayer3000]

@@MutedAndReported3032 erasing it is worse, what do you mean?

[@ameredelusion]

@@Dark_Slayer3000Depends on how you look at it, I suppose. Since if Frisk deletes the entire timeline and starts a new one, the remaining monsters (remember, some monsters were evacuated) won’t have to suffer the consequences of their (Frisk’s) genocide. (Let’s not talk about Soulless Pacifist…) In Clover’s case, however, they just… leave, taking all the previously collected human SOULs with them - not only sending monsterkind’s efforts back to zero, but wreaking havoc amongst the underground inhabitants by killing their king and murdering a lot of innocent monsters… and so on. All in all, your point still stands, since it all just depends on the theorist’s viewpoint. (hey, i wrote a whole essay! :0 does anyone need a TL;DR lol?)

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

​@@ameredelusionI think thats poetic justice after they believed that killing children would leave no consequences

[@ameredelusion]

@@mechamedegeorge6786 Killing children who? I don’t remember us having to kill any children in Undertale Yellow’s Genocide Route…

[@MalmartheReckoning]

Make sure to also do the neutral route! There’s a complete different ending then both routes!

[@cmybilly9237]

Shayy said he will be doing neutral on stream tomorrow, the video will probably come out a few hours after the stream

[@FeCyrineu]

There is also yet another ending if you decide to kill the pacifist boss.

[@EastPort10]

I really like the genocide route here, especially if you interpret it as happening before Clover resets into doing a Pacifist route. I think it gives more weight to Clover's final decision in Pacifist.

[@The_Legendary_Nic]

Shayy you are actually goated, I was lurking in the stream last night but couldn’t stay awake any longer, so the fact you beat Martlet *AND* got the full run uploaded since then is insane. GG though you really are the undertale man

[@NeonLDT]

I like how the soul of justice was used for undertale yellow. True pacifist was the Justice ending for the monsters and most likely the canon ending, True Genocide was the Justice ending for the humans, and the Neutral route was the judgement ending for a chance to reset and pick a specific ending. The Justice soul presents a chance to change things and depends on how you use it. Even if the change is wrong, the Justice soul won't care because it is their judgement that oversees all and not anyone else's.

[@Internet_No_Body]

Holy shit I was expecting Flowey to do one of his classic yoinks at the end or something but CLOVER LIVES!?! That is the best goddamn plot twist I've ever seen!

[@sleeplessarcher]

In a way, I get how this is still justice. The entire Underground hopes for children to fall so they can kill them and steal their souls. Even if its for a desire that is ultimately hopeful, taking lives of innocent people and using them for a outwardly selfish reason deserves repercussions. On top of that, there are entire divisions trained specifically with the goal of killing humans, IE the Royal Guard. Monsters wait like the jaws of a carnivorous plant for their prey to fall down, only so they can slaughter it. Clover’s justice isn’t just for the souls who died. In the end, it’s retribution toward the ‘selfish’ desires of monster kind who will stop at nothing to attain their own freedom. And even then, who knows what they’ll do with it? Killing kids isn’t a good look no matter how you put it. Those kids all could’ve been sweet, innocent people who wanted the best for everyone and were instead skewered by Asgore’s trident. That’s not to say what Clover is doing in the genocide route is right at all. It’s still genocide. But it’s interesting to think about it from a different perspective.

[@croaxer2390]

No. I think I agree.

[@markopujic660]

Still, humans killed thousands of monsters and imprisoned the rest. If you want to look at it like that, neither is innocent or in the right.

[@Humansarebetter1]

@@markopujic660 yeah those five kids who fell after the war killed all those monster. monsterkind actively supports a child killer as their king.

[@MutantDestroyer]

in case anyone wants to know the soundtrack names so that you dont have to go through the whole list finding which ones you actually want to listen to like I did: 56:58 - apprehension_yellow 1:37:50 - trial_by_fury 1:43:59 - trial_by_fury_2 2:45:10 - remedy

[@abandoned_channel41515]

The sequel to "Undertale, but i have a gun..."

[@djonila1325]

Clover was so determined to kill flowey that he shot flowey with 8 consecutive bullets with a revolver that cam hold only 6 bullets

[@Ratswithnointentions]

I can't get over Mr.Shayy's Joker-ass laugh at 1:23:29

[@submarine8721]

Thank you for making these so fast, and for the quality of the videos. You're probably the best UT youtuber who's out there, ily

[@JezElectroAlt]

1:57:31 as much as I like to say Clover is either them or he, King can technically apply to female people as well. Poland once had a female king.

[@derekstryder2281]

Cleopatra: the first female Pharoah...

[@JezElectroAlt]

@@derekstryder2281 Is there a proper word for female Pharaoh in English?

[@derekstryder2281]

@@JezElectroAlt Not really. If I recall correctly, Pharoah was never a title intended to be held by a woman. Hence why Cleopatra was still called a Pharoah.

[@JezElectroAlt]

@@derekstryder2281 Alright. So, my point was that there was a woman who held the title of a King. Back then Queen meant "Wife of the King" so for a period of time Queen Jadwiga was actually King Jadwiga.

[@twindrill2852]

DAMN...chilling. I guess my only issue is with the difficulty. I get that Sans' boss fight was difficult, but if you got used to the attack patterns it becomes a well-versed challenge. But this final boss just feels unfair. I hope that the difficulty can be reduced in a future patch to make it both difficult and fun.

[@simonrytkonen-he8rh]

One needs a lot of telegraphing

[@JackDout]

Let's all be honest, If Sans was in the Judgement Hall we'd all collectively lose our sh*t, for multiple reasons.

[@Humaricslastcall]

Or Red, for that matter.

[@loganjephson3571]

Murderers don’t deserve box-based convenience like that. The monsters have learnt.

[@marknagorski1686]

I guess Flowey just underestimated Clover because bro went chad mode and annihilated Asgore then just left the Underground 💀

[@violettiaras]

it's kinda ironic how the genocide ending is actually the best outcome for clover; they escape the underground and free the other human souls. maybe chara doesn't show up and force a reset because we didn't "call the name" of the first human before the beginning of the game? I feel like it has something to do with clover being a character that has more established traits and motivations rather than being a pure vessel (lol hollow knight) for determination like frisk.

[@EP1CxEMAN08]

When I see the word "Vessel", I think of Deltarune.

[@llamareactionstudios7208]

It's odd how in the Yellow storyline, the Genocide ending is actually much better than the pacifist one. The human souls are put to rest, and Yellow is set free.

[@ShayyTV]

...And all the mostly innocent monsters being dead is a good thing? ^_^;;

[@llamareactionstudios7208]

@@ShayyTV I see your point, and obviously neither ending is "happy" per se. But the Pacifist ending is a lot sadder, and probably worse for Clover. Their mental state deteriorates to the point where they know that no matter what happens, they won't be able to have a happy ending, and so they do the noble thing and sacrifice their soul for the cause. On the Genocide route, Clover does what they came here to do. They avenge the human souls and leave the underground. Sure, they killed everyone else, but they did what they came to do, and they don't seem to regret it. They got what they wanted, but they lost the opportunity for a happy life. That's what I love about this game. Unlike Undertale, no matter what you do, there is no "happy ending". You get punched in the gut either way, but the morals from each ending are so unique that it really makes you think "Am I really satisfied with this?". It's perfect. Also, I'm a huge fan of your videos, so thanks for the comment!

[@nationalgeografic7687]

​@@ShayyTVinnocent monsters would not attack a random child

[@croaxer2390]

@@nationalgeografic7687True. If anything, it’s the monsters who are guilty. They all try to fight you. Whether you’re doing pacifist or not they aren’t friendly.

[@mauler7303]

@@nationalgeografic7687 arent they attacking because they were imprisoned because of humans and keep getting attacked by the humans that fall down? and besides, you can easily befriend most of them. its not like theyre attacking you for fun. and killing them just makes things worse because youre just proving the "humans are genocidal" stereotype

[@TheOriginalStarwalker64]

Every single time he was getting smoked, or there was a difficulty spike, especially against Martlet, all I could think was how you deserve this. Undertale Yellow is so good at portraying just how absolutely fucked up your choices are. Phenomenal fangame

[@TheLandOfDreams]

genocide clover is terrifying but in an entirely different way than genocide frisk. genocide frisk is like, a puppet for a higher being, a force of nature, but clover is scary in a way thats more personal and you know, human

[@marioluigibros.8176]

there is another ending if you do pacifist but kill the final boss. (that is different from neutral) so there are 4 final bosses. Pacfist, Genocide, Neutral, and aborted pacifist and the final boss

[@greyscaleadaven]

Honestly I didn't expect to like this fangame, mainly because of the soul trait fanon. I've been burned before by bad writing via Glitchtale and other fanworks like that in the past that focused on the idea of soul traits. But even if I have a lot of reasons to not believe that's a real thing (never mentioned ingame as a part of human souls, soul modes not matching the emotional traits of characters who use them in Undertale, determination existing in all humans, etc.) I think it's executed well here. I often get too caught up in the details and sometimes it's hard to see something for what it is. This game isn't trying to be Undertale, and I like that. It isn't afraid to break canon in favor of what it wants to do. That's cool. But it does this without being unfaithful to major themes of its source material, which is what a lot of fangames I see tend to lack. I think that's probably because it's such a departure from the main cast. None of the pure fanon elements get a chance to seep into the preexisting characters. So it creates something entirely new, and that's refreshing.

[@mechamedegeorge6786]

How is that "fanon"??? The game explicitly tells you about each of the soul types in the ball game wtf

[@greyscaleadaven]

@@mechamedegeorge6786 It's fanon because the trait part itself doesn't exist in canon. The soul colors and connections to their weapons are canon, but Determination is the only scientifically documented soul trait of humans we hear about, despite all the human souls being experimented on before Frisk fell. All humans harbor determination, so it can't make sense for it to be assigned to only frisk's soul. This tells us that the ball game can't be describing soul traits, but rather is likely divulging characteristics of each human. Toby would have mentioned any of them in the True Lab or Librarby where you learn about human souls if it was a core part of their functionality. Hope that helped to clarify my reasoning!

[@pixel9825]

​@@greyscaleadaven to my knowledge, the ball game doesn't say that the red soul's trait is determination. in fact, i don't think it even gives the red soul a trait. the whole "the red soul's trait is determination" more likely stems from an assumption that the other humans couldn't have determination because they died. but yeah, there's no definitive proof that the traits are a measurable or observable thing within souls, or that they're part of the souls at all.

[@greyscaleadaven]

@@pixel9825 Yk it's funny, even when trying my best to fend off the 'fandela' effect these games have sometimes, I forget that I'm susceptible to that too. I can't believe I didn't notice that it skirts around saying Determination directly... Thanks for pointing this out!

[@Snowstorm174]

the sprite work for martlet is *gorgeous* it’s peak boss design

[@RobsTheMemer]

Only 1 hour in and seeing the hurt enemy sprites and cruel things you can do is actually heartbreaking after watching pacifist route and possibly without watching the pacifist route

[@yetan0theruser]

I'm seeing a few people who're saying that this is the most fitting route for the Justice soul, and quite frankly, that's... _a very black and white way of viewing something like this._ Kinda surprising people genuinely think this, considering both this and the original Undertale are games that are best viewed in more ways than just "right and wrong." Justice isn't vengeance. Vengeance is inflicting hurt on to those who have either wronged you or others in some way as a form of payback, and though this could be seen as a form of justice, the two aren't the same thing. Justice is, in a way, a balancing act. You can't just see the good or bad; you have to take into account _both._ There HAS to be a grey area. Considering the very situation the monsters are in that Clover, regardless of what route he takes, would've at least learned a _bit_ about and how it effected everyone, in the end, this route is... _selfish,_ in a way. ...God, can't really think of another fangame that actually gets me thinking about morality in a way that Undertale DIDN'T. Guess that just goes to show the quality of what's shown, huh?

[@georgemeyers7172]

Honestly it feels like something Toby Fox himself made... which makes sense considering he greenlit the game.

[@doorkey73]

"That's the problem with you demons, you only see things in black and white while I need to keep things **grey** to find out what really happened."

[@v1x4570]

Yeah, this route isn't justice, it's collective punishment, which is unfortunately a pretty common and harmful philosophy. You can't just punish a whole group for something only a few individuals in that group did.

[@georgemeyers7172]

@@v1x4570 Yup... But that's Vengeance at it's worst for ya.

[@iantaakalla8180]

It also really explains why Genocide Axis is where Clover LV goes up to 19. Before, Clover only had theories and a vague sense of “justice” although it was always thin throughout the route beforehand; at that point, Clover wants all monsters dead and cloaks it in justice although there was probably a naïveté to Clover’s indiscriminate killing in that she assumes all monsters are bad for some reason.

[@Seeks_stuff]

Shoutout to the one person in chat who said they needed to go pee during a cutscene and then came back later saying "I PISSED TOO MUCH" Got a chuckle out of me

[@Zhella099]

Hes just like clover in the axis fight

[@dylandelahaie7800]

Neutral Route is really interesting as well BTW. Also there is an alt pacifist ending.

[@elmapepaj2959]

ITS CRAZY THAT when Clover listened from Axis that he killed a human,his level of violence and hp increased,because he needed to JUSTICE him,I bet he was very angry at that moment

[@heheheiamasuperstarwarrior9281]

I want to say I love the parts when clover uses his gun. Like. I don't mean in battle. Nah, i mean when you're on the overworld and clover just whips that shit out

[@samueltrusik3251]

I love this. The story is amazing. Loved that ending. I can only imagine how many comic will be made for this.