Undertale Yellow: What If Sparing Ceroba Was An Option? || (Genocide Route)

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JQR

JQR

3 ай бұрын

Played through Undertale Yellow a while back and I really enjoyed it! So much so in fact that I deviated a bit to make a little something to commemorate it, seriously everyone involved did a great job!
Being based off of Genocide's Ceroba fight, this idea was sparked off by the enemy being unsparable even if her name becomes yellow when on low hp, likely due to an oversight. Well, this hinges on that not being the case!
Undertale Yellow by: MasterSword Remix (I believe)
If by chance any people who worked on the project see this and have a problem with it, just shoot me a message in the comments and it'll be taken down! I'd like to remain respectful to the team.

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@Dog_eater822
@Dog_eater822 20 күн бұрын
“The human gets a bit quirky at night” The human:
@sanstheskeleton3279
@sanstheskeleton3279 3 ай бұрын
Clover sparing Ceroba right after killing her childhood friend right in front of her and almost beating her to death: *Well* *maybe* *I* *don't* *want* *to* *be* *the* *bad* *guy* *anymore.*
@johay899
@johay899 21 күн бұрын
This is a little late don’t you think? But better late than never good time to turn your life around and Clover good on you.
@johay899
@johay899 21 күн бұрын
Despicable Me reference
@andreaslefteri3661
@andreaslefteri3661 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, sparing Ceroba here is far worse than just killing her. In this scenario she's given a fate worse than death. She lost her husband, she lost her daughter, and now she also lost her childhood friend, the only ones who are still there for her in any sense of the meaning are Dina and the Feisty Four if they ever return to the Wild East. And even then, she's been given the Alphys treatment from OG undertale if Mettaton and/or Undyne is killed in a Neutral route. Ceroba will never be the same, if she doesn't end up doing to herself what Clover didn't do to her that is.
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
Same with zeneth
@KwikBR
@KwikBR 3 ай бұрын
that's just wrong, everybody can recover eventually. sparing her means that eventually, she'll escape the underground, get to meet frisk, and other things
@PrintThem
@PrintThem 3 ай бұрын
Same with Dalv
@rainbgalax1307
@rainbgalax1307 3 ай бұрын
@@KwikBR I dont think so? If this route does abourt geno (which im sure of it since the shadow on Clover's face disappear at the end) that means we'll go to the neutral route, in which (spoilers) Flowey resets it all and Ceroba will forget about this
@andreaslefteri3661
@andreaslefteri3661 3 ай бұрын
@@KwikBR well none of that actually because even if she somehoe held on, even if barely because of Dina and the Feisty Four, if she got to meet Frisk she'd probably want them dead on the spot. But none of this matters, since we all know how the neutral route of undertale yellow plays out after Axis
@Ignisium
@Ignisium 3 ай бұрын
It should have forced you to repeatedly spare her while she begs for the sweet release of death, like she does in pacifist
@julie-18
@julie-18 3 ай бұрын
that would make it more realistic since at that point you’ve taken everything from her and she wouldn’t want to be left alive anymore
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 3 ай бұрын
WOW- okay-
@MarioMoss69
@MarioMoss69 3 ай бұрын
Bro what 😨😨😨
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 3 ай бұрын
@@MarioMoss69 She literally does beg repeatedly for death once you beat her in Pacifist. "You won this battle. Do what has to be done." "What are you waiting for? Please, give me this." "Why are you like this? Always taking the hight road. Aren't you angry? Aren't you just?" "Pull the trigger already! Pull it..." So it would be 100% in character here. "...you're... sparing me? Why? You won." "Go ahead. Finish me. I cannot stop you." "...You've turned the last person I cared about into dust. I had no one, nothing else." "Pull the trigger! Finish me off! Please..."
@Bobplushie666
@Bobplushie666 3 ай бұрын
You are a psychopath
@dat_doors_guy312
@dat_doors_guy312 3 ай бұрын
"sorry bout killing everyone my bad"
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Understandable, happens all the time.
@true_drip_master
@true_drip_master 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.Yeah It does
@springtrap4225
@springtrap4225 3 ай бұрын
Simple misclick
@connor28punaladas92
@connor28punaladas92 3 ай бұрын
Shit happen
@demiguiraud2778
@demiguiraud2778 3 ай бұрын
Ceroba: God forgives you, but I DON'T!
@RalseiDRsocoolWOW
@RalseiDRsocoolWOW 3 ай бұрын
Clover was just in a silly mood today guys dw!
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Bro said: 🤠👍
@BaconBota3c
@BaconBota3c 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.I find those 2 emoji so freaking funny
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.Yknow since you're doing fangame what ifs, i feel like itd be cool to get a deltatraveler what if
@Moss_Eater584
@Moss_Eater584 2 ай бұрын
Moss.
@Moss_Eater584
@Moss_Eater584 2 ай бұрын
Moss.
@Makaibros
@Makaibros 3 ай бұрын
ceroba: proceeds to have a traumatic breakdown after attempting to kill you axis: lowtiergod
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Clover is the High Tier Human
@true_drip_master
@true_drip_master 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.Guess axis was inspired by low tier god
@ter157ian8
@ter157ian8 3 ай бұрын
Clover is definitely the type that would go full LTG but have half of his words censored.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 3 ай бұрын
Clover will never change. Ever since they were nine they were always the same. Couldn't keep their hands out of the cash drawer, but couldn't be our precious Clover! And they get to be a purveyor of Justice? What a sick joke!
@neep2
@neep2 3 ай бұрын
The chicanery.....
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Slippin' Clover...
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 3 ай бұрын
@@JQR. Are you telling me a human just happens to fall into the Dark Ruins like that?
@sayyoanmahadhevan1569
@sayyoanmahadhevan1569 2 ай бұрын
@@Colddirector No! He orchestrated it! Flowey!
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 2 ай бұрын
@@sayyoanmahadhevan1569 He covered his tracks! He got that idiot in the Royal Guard to lie for him!
@A120AMIR12
@A120AMIR12 3 ай бұрын
"as long as there is some thing to be gained you will never change" that's so undertale great job
@Dreamcrusher999
@Dreamcrusher999 2 ай бұрын
Clover: *gains G by selling Ceroba UTY-iff arts.* Perfect vengeance
@radiotikal
@radiotikal 2 ай бұрын
​@@Dreamcrusher999 Ceroba WHAT arts???
@Dreamcrusher999
@Dreamcrusher999 2 ай бұрын
@@radiotikal yes, THESE arts
@ultranathan992
@ultranathan992 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: in undertale yellow genocide you can actually spare almost every boss. By exhausting your kill count in the ruins before you fight the bat. The bat will flee and you wont fight them. You can actually spare dalv and still do genocide as long as you kill all of snowdin (and you can get the sliver scarf too) Martlet just runs away like normal. Exhausting you kill count before you reach the dancing dude (idk some of their names) makes the dancing dude not fight you. You have to kill starlo and ceroba if you want to stay on genocide. Then of course you got too kill axis but other than that you can spare half the bosses and still do genocide :)
@ultranathan992
@ultranathan992 3 ай бұрын
Another weird fact: if you don't do Geno in the ruins you can go to snowdin and kill more monsters than you can in Geno. Each room has a kill count once the room has exhausted it's kill count it'll not let you encounter enemies there anymore. Do this for every room in Snowdin an potential you can fight normal martlet at lvl 9?!?! (You can't get to lvl 9 in Geno until after martlet trust me I tried) then you can the exact same thing in the dunes and you should end up at lvl 12 or 13 depending on who you kill. Steamworks doesn't give any exp besides axis. You can still go to the hospital at lvl 13 and get 84/68 HP which I thought was kinda funny :3
@lemons38
@lemons38 3 ай бұрын
i'm 95,7% sure sparing dalv aborts geno
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
​@@lemons38i think It's because of an bug that you can re-enter geno in snowdin
@ultranathan992
@ultranathan992 3 ай бұрын
@@lemons38 as long as you kill all of Snowdin after sparing dalv you be put back on the genocide route
@ultranathan992
@ultranathan992 3 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusDiasissy bug or not it's a fun thing to do. You can actually get the sliver scarf before you go back on genocide too. Which is good for martlet if you are bad a dodging
@redcoolhax
@redcoolhax 3 ай бұрын
An Undertale Yellow animation from JQR wasn't something I was expecting but it's definitely a pleasant surprise.
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
i wanna see what happens when you spare zenith martlet
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
​@@johay899she tries to chase after you but she melts before she reaches you, giving you lv 20 qnyways. in mtt resort, flowey talks about how clover seemed to doubt their actions, finishing off with "Look, they probably put up their defenses, so i'll see what we can do, but hey! On the bright side, you got a brand new ability, correct? with this, asgore doesnt stand a chance against you!". On the way to asgore, you hear flowey muttering to himself from under the ground, "huh... that's odd... where are the save points at?", once you get to asgore, many things could happen, but if they end up fighting there, flowey would likely get angry at clover for killing the king before he got to show the souls, and feeling afraid once he realizes that he cant reload, you get the choice to either spare him and go to the surface without revealing the soul jars, or you shoot him.
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
I finally broken the mold with this one 🙃 Nah but seriously, thanks! I didn't know how this one would be recieved but it seems to be doing swell for the most part
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
​@@dylanzlol7293Oh dang this is pretty, neat! If I ever decide to to follow up with a Martlet spare-type thing would you mind me using some snippets of dialogue and ideas from it? I think it's quite frankly the best way to go about the ending after allat
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
​@@johay899mayhaps
@TheLudicrousLuv
@TheLudicrousLuv 3 ай бұрын
Great representation of the character as always. The way this genocide abort was handled is how i would have imagined the base game done as well. Good one as always
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ToyFreddyGaming1987
@ToyFreddyGaming1987 3 ай бұрын
One of the few times where being merciful is even more cruel.
@ls190v2
@ls190v2 3 ай бұрын
Sadistic Route.
@TYsdrawkcaB
@TYsdrawkcaB 2 ай бұрын
dalv, too
@Powdersnowy
@Powdersnowy Ай бұрын
@@TYsdrawkcaB id say nah with dalv since he was already pretty alone so itl like you changed nothing
@TYsdrawkcaB
@TYsdrawkcaB Ай бұрын
@@Powdersnowy but he was hopeful that he would get to make friends, to get out, and you took that away from him.
@Powdersnowy
@Powdersnowy Ай бұрын
@TYsdrawkcaB yeah I guess but he's a vampire so he should be fine
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 3 ай бұрын
It was so evil letting her live it didn't abort genocide until Clover entered Steamworks.
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
I mean, Clover shadow dissapeared, so the route was aborted
@JezElectro13
@JezElectro13 3 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusDiasissy only after reaching Steamworks though.
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
@@JezElectro13 there should be more stuff like this, in normal undertale yellow if you just don't kill one enemy all of the dune towns will be back to normal(like undertale)
@Laranjas2807
@Laranjas2807 3 ай бұрын
Clover ruined even more Ceroba's life now,husband,daughter,and now her best friend died,And spared her,Just to see her suffer.......clover really Got trauma From pacifist
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
True
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
Soulless
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
ok now i wanna see what happens when you spare zenith martlet
@greycat1508
@greycat1508 3 ай бұрын
About Kanako... Well, she’s not completely dead (as for me), she’s almost dead, so to speak... Like, for example, Snowdrake's mother, Shyren's sister, the relatives of the guard dogs and the relatives of Astigmatism, Final Froggit and Whimsalot. (Yes, I'm talking about amalgamates)
@Laranjas2807
@Laranjas2807 3 ай бұрын
@@greycat1508 i think she's alive,But as a amalgamate
@Wazzup365
@Wazzup365 3 ай бұрын
Clover: "It's just a prank, bro!" The prank:
@Laranjas2807
@Laranjas2807 3 ай бұрын
No one is safe for him,BRO IS ON FIRE LIKE FLINT AMMO🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
I'm coming after everyone today 👥
@XenosHornet15
@XenosHornet15 3 ай бұрын
I burnt maetlet 7 times
@Laranjas2807
@Laranjas2807 3 ай бұрын
@@XenosHornet15 wtf
@XenosHornet15
@XenosHornet15 3 ай бұрын
@@Laranjas2807 ive done genocide 4 times and burnt martlet easily
@Laranjas2807
@Laranjas2807 3 ай бұрын
@@XenosHornet15 oh
@FabricatedNovA
@FabricatedNovA 3 ай бұрын
I imagine that if you spare her here, she fights you in the judgement hall.
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
As much as she would want to I think the world would reset before it
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, a certain event on mtt resort's roof would prevent us from seeing the consequences
@MTBMARKASH
@MTBMARKASH Ай бұрын
Basically any spares in genocide route will change it into natural
@Flowermations
@Flowermations 3 ай бұрын
Clover: *Spares* Ceroba: Wha-why are you sparing me? Clover: *Watching you suffer brings me joy >=)...* and hey, sorry about killing everyone and your best friend back there, pre-teen hormones get really silly sometimes! See ya Ceroba :D
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
Ceroba:Get dunked on
@ferro6854
@ferro6854 3 ай бұрын
Funny. But in all seriousness, i feel that it would be cool to have a yellow text saying "JUSTICE" as Clover's answer. Just like in the end of the route , when Clover imteracts with stuff.
@niklosweber5759
@niklosweber5759 3 ай бұрын
Ceroba after I killed everybody and her best friend then spared her after all that while using that excuse: “What.”
@KeishaHasArtBlock
@KeishaHasArtBlock 2 ай бұрын
I think Flowey is too much of a bad influence
@GeorgePosedkin-um2ml
@GeorgePosedkin-um2ml 3 ай бұрын
"What if you could spare Starlo" would be great if you did it
@ElPeloXD
@ElPeloXD 2 ай бұрын
u cant
@sona_the_persona
@sona_the_persona 2 ай бұрын
@@ElPeloXD its a "what if"
@ElPeloXD
@ElPeloXD 2 ай бұрын
@@sona_the_persona ok
@sasha2923
@sasha2923 Ай бұрын
​@@ElPeloXDWell you can't spare ceroba too
@lisakfoxxx
@lisakfoxxx 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't think that Ceroba would spare you after killing her best friend. She was going to fight till the end
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
It's more of a case where she's too beaten/ weakened to continue fighting anymore here
@destroyercrush1052
@destroyercrush1052 3 ай бұрын
Yeah notice she was only spareable when she had like 1 hp?
@YORCHspartan117
@YORCHspartan117 3 ай бұрын
​@@destroyercrush1052 also she did intend to strike clover again by paralyzing them and then hitting them with the flowey special, its just that she couldnt muster any more strength
@destroyercrush1052
@destroyercrush1052 3 ай бұрын
@@YORCHspartan117 Yeah, Think if irl you had like 1 hp left do you think you’d be able to have enough strength to fight back once the adrenaline is over??
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
​@@destroyercrush1052 enemies in undertale become spareable when you beat them to near death
@susamkjonsds
@susamkjonsds 3 ай бұрын
ok now i wanna see what happens when you spare zenith martlet
@Ink_Akane_Kurokawa
@Ink_Akane_Kurokawa 3 ай бұрын
Imo she would do like sans
@user-vb1qi8pw9z
@user-vb1qi8pw9z 3 ай бұрын
i think she would still die because the serum would wear off.
@JudeEaley
@JudeEaley 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, and you'd still get the XP, but you'd feel bad, because she then says something about "we can rebuild monster kind, humans and monsters in harmony" then dust
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Hm, well if I'd ever tried to tackle it, it'd probably still result in her melting/ dying in the aftermath, like the guys above me said! I could see the ending getting railroaded a few ways after that though
@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.Can you do one with Starlo on geno like this?
@crazyanimations2097
@crazyanimations2097 3 ай бұрын
Flowey: Well, I just wanna say that I'mma huge fan.
@Tmitric
@Tmitric 3 ай бұрын
Clover being a silly little guy
@coolDude-sx6we
@coolDude-sx6we 2 ай бұрын
Flowey- “Just kill her! If you want to, that is” Clover: “oh there were other options sweet”
@Joa-vi
@Joa-vi 3 ай бұрын
We need an ending where Clover fights off ASGORE and get's FLOWEY his the human souls like he did in the OG UNDERTALE, with maybe a bad ending while at it from the perspective of the Monsterkind
@moltick7518
@moltick7518 3 ай бұрын
THIS GOES HARD AF Genuinely incredibly made, thanks
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Undertale yellow what ifs, huh.
@mini-bd7fw
@mini-bd7fw 2 ай бұрын
And the fact that she's too weak to even kill us because of how many times we hit her is Just stupidly cruel like imagine losing your child hood friend in front of you and you can't even kill who did it because you're too weak thank God the creator of under tale yellow didn't add that in
@midnightmoon6439
@midnightmoon6439 3 ай бұрын
This should be turned into a mod for Undertale Yellow.
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
True
@theloreempire
@theloreempire 3 ай бұрын
THE RETURN OF THE KING! So good to see more of your workin what-if scenarios!
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Thanks and glad you liked them! Just about released everything I wanted and some more things in store for the future! (Well fingers crossed I'll finish 'em "••)
@danielmayonaka8818
@danielmayonaka8818 3 ай бұрын
After seeing the alternative routes of Ts!Underswap this concept could be interesting to have some type of Semi-Genocide/Evacuation Route in UT Yellow
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Tbf aborting uty's geno run when you're going to go to steamworks afterwards would mean nothing knowing that theres no living person on steamworks, a better example of an evacuation neutral run happening would be aborting on snowdin martlet and having evacuation neutral run-style changes on the dunes
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 true with most of the robots in hibernation, they would probably not be informed about any genocide
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 the biggest change, I could see is an axis reaction to you having more than 10 LV since that officially triggers his emergency mode
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
@@johay899 im pretty sure you can have more than lv 10 outside of genocide before steamworks
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
But there should be a reaction to it by axis
@itsniqilisitsme4701
@itsniqilisitsme4701 3 ай бұрын
Clover does a little trolling fellas
@legendaryratbell
@legendaryratbell 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Clover would kill Ceroba since she is trying to get justice for her friend, which would contradict his sense of justice, that would get him to go nuts
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
It is a "what if", so of couse it wouldn't make 100% sense And you can still spare the robots and Axis later and abort geno, so It's not like Clover would be far to so spare Ceroba
@coltonmatthews3616
@coltonmatthews3616 3 ай бұрын
Seeing the character of Ceroba, she would fight you until death, she would not give up fighting you and avenging Starlo. (which is why you can’t spare her in the main game)
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
I know, I know, I tried framing it more like she's become too weakened to fight back and having no choice other than to accept mercy, tried to show it a bit more with how she attempts to fight clover even after but ultimately falls back down due to being too beaten to continue (Very unrelated example, but, think of it like how you have to weaken pokemon so you have an increased chance of trapping them in a ball, similar to that!) The whole reason for this being made is morso due to the yellow name oversight once she's weakened, made me go, 'What if?'
@liamnebula
@liamnebula 3 ай бұрын
" my bad bro "
@ThatEzekielGuy
@ThatEzekielGuy 3 ай бұрын
I love your whatif concepts
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Thank ye, they are pretty fun to make!
@PhuongVu-sn8nl
@PhuongVu-sn8nl 3 ай бұрын
​@@JQR.Video idea: What if Starlo injected the determination serum in front of you and gets powerup (In pacifist) and proceeds to beat you down because in this case you have to make him so, so mad he snaps out of anger
@Rob-wm6ef
@Rob-wm6ef 2 ай бұрын
You actually got Ceroba and Flowey's personalities right. Well done bro.
@MattPixelSpriteMaster
@MattPixelSpriteMaster 3 ай бұрын
Awesome what if concept! Awesome to see we're even getting into UTY now!
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
Yooo, you're also here!
@MattPixelSpriteMaster
@MattPixelSpriteMaster 3 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusDiasissy sure am! You know me? :)
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
@@MattPixelSpriteMaster ghostdude from Game jolt
@MattPixelSpriteMaster
@MattPixelSpriteMaster 3 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusDiasissy oh, it's you! Nice to see you here as well!
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
@@MattPixelSpriteMaster yeah lol, I still don't get how you're so fast to comment things. But anyway, when did you start seeing this guy content? Salt route right?
@Melody-tk5ci
@Melody-tk5ci 3 ай бұрын
Clover:meh i did it 100 times ago so im chilling today Ceroba:wait wh-
@TheStudioArchitect
@TheStudioArchitect 2 ай бұрын
What is sad about this is that you can ACTUALLY do this to Dalv in the game. You can kill every single person in the Dark Ruins, and the last thing Dalv will say before just going to his room in his house is, "Now I am truly alone..." I am one of the very few people that am of the opinion that the genocide routes in both Undertale and Undertale Yellow are completely justified acts to commit. But even I will admit that doing this to Dalv, or in this video, Ceroba, is extremely messed up. This video was very well made. Congratulations.
@h5yprChannel
@h5yprChannel 2 ай бұрын
Sparing dalv is actually better because you can temporarily lose your no mercy route to get the scarf side quest and then kill all of snowdin afterwards to continue it. The scarf makes snowdin martlet and ceroba the uncerobing so much easier. You might argue that you’ll be underleveled but not if you kill the higher exp monsters in each area. You can look up which those are yourself. Makes me wonder if you could do this with ceroba in this hypothetical scenario.
@evilness3404
@evilness3404 13 күн бұрын
I don't understand how you could think the geno route is justified at all, especially in UT (when looking at Frisk's POV). Both UT and UTY's geno routes are completely based on hunting down and exterminating monsters, all for power. Its worse in UT because saving and loading is something Frisk would be aware of. If you were in the same position as them, you'd have the moral responsibility to do a pacifist route, because you know its possible to get past everyone with very little fighting.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 6 күн бұрын
​@@evilness3404its more of a morally grey situation, frankly, you mostly have a point with undertale given that youve got enemies like toriel, papyrus, mkid, etc. that would be hard to justify, but in undertale yellow, thats mostly different, for one, clover doesnt have control over the save file, flowey does, therefore, they have no memory of what happened and its as if it was their first time here, theres no argument about moral responsibility from clover's pov, althrough, most endings in uty lead to clover dying without knowing what happens later, so they arent morally obligated to do a pacifist route even if clover could remember resets, for all they know, monsterkind would incite a war against humanity after they get the 7th human soul, its a morally grey situation no matter what. With 7 human souls, a monster can become god and be able to defeat humanity in a war, thats reason enough to worry about monsters being a potential risk to humanity (especially muffet if she finds out that humans kill spiders), so therefore, clover is eliminating potential threats, look at it from clover's pov, they went down to find the fallen humans, and many monsters are trying to kill clover, so therefore, clover would think that theyre violent, so killing them could be somewhat understandable, maybe they killed the 5 humans. You can spare Dalv without aborting genocide, so he wont count. Now, Martlet, one thing is clear, clover doesnt seem to want to kill her, in fact, you can argue that clover is only shooting martlet to get her to go away, which is why they let her go twice, so there's no ill intent until much later. Clover doesnt know anything about starlo when they meet him, all they know is that he challenges them to a seemingly deadly dual, so seeing it from that angle, its no wonder why clover chooses to shoot him. Ceroba is trying to kill clover, so self-defense. Axis's first encounter makes it very clear why clover gets pissed off at him. When he scans clover, he threatens them and almost starts a fight before clover proceeds to shoot, so you could argue that clover sees the robots as human-killing machines, feeling vindicated when axis reveals that he killed the integrity human soul. Zenith Martlet, there are many reasons for clover to change their mind, maybe axis's reveal fully convinced clover that monsters are savage and that even martlet deserves death for being part of it due to her royal guard status. Overall, most enemies killed by clover werent innocent, and can choose to let go those who were innocent, so really, many kills in uty could be easily justified if you look at it from clover's pov. Clover isnt hunting down monsters for power, but for justice. Kind of morally grey, tbh.
@thisisausername9356
@thisisausername9356 3 ай бұрын
Oh this is so good! If you told me this was straight out of UTY and I just missed it I would believe you
@laukachu
@laukachu 3 ай бұрын
Even though you spared her, it could still be genocide since in this game you can spare Dalv and continue genocide on snowdin and also you will probably reach LV 19 on the Axis fight but i guess i makes sense since Clover on genocide gets rid of everyone who is on their path to get justice, anyways great video as always!
@user-pe3wr8fu6u
@user-pe3wr8fu6u 3 ай бұрын
: Don’t kill me! Clover: no : kill me! Clover: no
@WalesCountryBall_69
@WalesCountryBall_69 3 ай бұрын
If ceroba tried killing clover after being spared flowey would prob interfere at some point.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 3 ай бұрын
He probably knew it wouldn't work.
@lucassollak1574
@lucassollak1574 3 ай бұрын
Sparing somebody in a genocide run is the worst thing that you can do, It's as if you were asking this person to get screwed alone, without friends, without family... because you killed everyone they had
@mightymorphin2472
@mightymorphin2472 3 ай бұрын
you are good at this
@stgi2963
@stgi2963 3 ай бұрын
I mean, if you will ever do something similar with undertale yellow, i think something like "what if you actually fought Asgore" or "what if lift in the netural ending was working" would be great
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
Or spareing zenith on vengeance run
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
i wanna see what happens when you spare zenith martlet
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
she may still die if the serum would wear off.
@Turbulation1
@Turbulation1 3 ай бұрын
There's already a mod for UTY that makes the elevator in the hotel functional on neutral allowing you to go to Asgore and get a similar ending to Flawed Pacifist.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
​@@Turbulation1whats asgore's dialogue when you go to him without martlet? Is the dialogue any different if its an aborted geno run after ceroba's death? Do you resist more hits than in flawed pacifist?
@heavydutydavid5020
@heavydutydavid5020 Ай бұрын
I wish this was in the game. It's really good. Except I'd make her respond to you knocking on the door. With a "GO AWAY!" or something longer along the lines.
@teardropsadventure19
@teardropsadventure19 3 ай бұрын
What if Ceroba actually fought with Clover from the start of the Axis battle?
@mechamedegeorge6786
@mechamedegeorge6786 3 ай бұрын
Lowkey lost the opportunity of pulling an "Your choices dont matter" with Clover shooting Ceroba Axis first encounter style when she surrounds them with bullets. ... I know that kinda loses the point of the video, but such a thing would be a cool way to show us that after you put Clover and Ceroba in this situation, there is no way back and your actions have consequences regardless.
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
It was smthing i considered when making it and although tempting, you wouldn't be past the 'point of no return' yet here (since you can still spare Axis later on, that line is really only ever crossed after his death) On another note, another idea was just to have Ceroba Sans dunk you which woulda been quite humorous, courtesy of the man, the myth, the legend: Doru
@mechamedegeorge6786
@mechamedegeorge6786 3 ай бұрын
@@JQR. Well i was thinking to how you HAVE to kill Undyne The Undying even though you can abort the route later
@carlosbraw6169
@carlosbraw6169 3 ай бұрын
So well done
@rapidstang47
@rapidstang47 3 ай бұрын
If you ever make another what if for Undertale Yellow it would be interesting to see an aborted genocide route scenario right before you meet the Fiesty Five where the town is still evacuated and everyone doesn't forget what you did.
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Try looking up 'Dust Devil'! It's a fan mod in the making which centers around that and looks pretty good in every regard! I'll probably hold off on doing it since others are already attempting it, and better
@andrewyang3917
@andrewyang3917 3 ай бұрын
😮
@JakesoontobeJack
@JakesoontobeJack 3 ай бұрын
Just like Dalv, sparing her is more cruel than sparing her.
@Idazmi7
@Idazmi7 3 ай бұрын
You said 'sparing' twice
@JakesoontobeJack
@JakesoontobeJack 3 ай бұрын
@@Idazmi7 Crap I meant killing her at the end.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Btw, the geno run isnt actually aborted when you spare dalv on genocide
@JSWC64
@JSWC64 3 ай бұрын
​@@dylanzlol7293Yeah, you can even get "Silverscarf" and restore your genocide route!
@gemini1189
@gemini1189 3 ай бұрын
Nice video, although, Ceroba actually accepting mercy especially after witnessing the death of her childhood friend feels out of character. Realistically, she'd use that moment of hesitation from Clover by killing them immediately once the Spare button is pressed since she would want to fight to the death. Basically, "get dunked on" moment
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 2 ай бұрын
I think It's less of accepting mercy and more that her body can't keep going, she can't even summon magic for a few seconds
@silly8492
@silly8492 3 ай бұрын
Clover spared Ceroba not because they felt empathy towards her, but because they ran out of healing items
@dafish231
@dafish231 3 ай бұрын
HELL YEAH, JQR UNDERTALE YELLOW CONTENT!!!
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Ye boiii
@corruptedstriker67
@corruptedstriker67 3 ай бұрын
Well this is interesting, well done
@BrazilianDreemurr2008
@BrazilianDreemurr2008 Ай бұрын
* YOU BURNED MY HOUSE TO THE GROUND! ":p" * MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS DEAD, WHY DID YOU NOT FINISH ME OFF?! ":3"
@johay899
@johay899 21 күн бұрын
I remember your pacifists
@jacobp.2024
@jacobp.2024 Ай бұрын
Do you have any plans to do a Zenith Marlet version, or Starlo? THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
@pyroonbusinesschannel118
@pyroonbusinesschannel118 3 ай бұрын
wow this is awesum!
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi 3 ай бұрын
Brutal.
@Rodrigo-kq3js
@Rodrigo-kq3js 3 ай бұрын
YOU KILLED MY WHOLE FAMILY! YOU BURNED MY HOUSE TO THE GROUND!
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
🌝
@jamesverner9132
@jamesverner9132 Ай бұрын
I honestly think she will just off herself.... You don't get the xp so your run STILL fails but you didn't save her.... You just convinced her that this is the end. Savage
@tsukiche5939
@tsukiche5939 3 ай бұрын
That's a lotta videos, not complaining though
@dennyfrontier
@dennyfrontier 3 ай бұрын
Well to be fair, Clover is a silly bean
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
Oopsie daisy, I just killed about 50 people, how clumsy I am
@usermcskull4713
@usermcskull4713 3 ай бұрын
five videos today is amazing lol
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Five human souls Clover gotta save
@the_UwU3
@the_UwU3 25 күн бұрын
that is, if you spare her, she won’t come back? this is strange
@user-kj1lb4wy1j
@user-kj1lb4wy1j Ай бұрын
Ceroba: Why you kill Starlo and monsters, but don't kill me!? Clover: i don't know😳
@karillye7873
@karillye7873 3 ай бұрын
Do undertale yellow if sans actually showed up without more info about clover only knowing that clover has killed a lot Clover is able to dash and break the bones, and clover dont even turn blue
@RainHarper
@RainHarper 25 күн бұрын
IT IS AN OPTION!!!
@Avengerboy800
@Avengerboy800 3 ай бұрын
now i want to imagine what starlos reaction wouldve been if he wasnt killed in the dual
@liamvanderslice2415
@liamvanderslice2415 3 ай бұрын
I feel like since we all seem to agree this is worse then killing that this shouldn't abort geno
@CelestialLiving
@CelestialLiving 3 ай бұрын
So in this imaginary scenario, would the run still be count as geno or neutral? because i see that Clover didn't become angsty and shoot the door himself
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
It'd railroad into neutral just to fit with the game!
@ClatterPix
@ClatterPix 3 ай бұрын
Did you ever plan on making a feisty five genocide fight video?
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Hm-- maybe, I know there's a pretty good mod coming up called 'Dust Devil' for the game which has the same fight, just + Starlo, so I'll likely sit on it for now!
@GraceGames08
@GraceGames08 Ай бұрын
The only reason I would spare her is because I love ceroba but if I truly loved her I know that killing her would be the better option. And you don’t get the friendliness pellets if you spare her so sparing her is overall a dumb idea
@spamton7321
@spamton7321 3 ай бұрын
For some reason I feel this shouldn't abort genocide, as it is still an act of cruelty
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
I mean, sparing anyone even in undertale is an act of cruelty and you abort the route
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
Like dalv, you can spare him without aborting the geno run
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure It's because of a bug that you can enter geno again in snowdin
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 3 ай бұрын
@@ViniciusDiasissy nah not really
@TheSenkMan
@TheSenkMan 20 күн бұрын
“Oh uh actually I didn’t mean to kill everyone I just tripped on a rock and then it fell into my gun and then I slipped again and my trigger accidentally got pulled and all of a sudden I was here sorry about that by the way”
@stevenschuitemaker8438
@stevenschuitemaker8438 3 ай бұрын
0:02 sycn 🤌
@metta2215
@metta2215 3 ай бұрын
Imagine doing martlet and not being level 20 cuz you didnt kill ceroba
@johay899
@johay899 2 ай бұрын
that would be awkward
@Frisk133.
@Frisk133. 3 ай бұрын
Now I can't help but want to see how would it be sparing zenith martlet
@h5yprChannel
@h5yprChannel 3 ай бұрын
Interesting I wish this was a thing
@notmuchgd9842
@notmuchgd9842 2 ай бұрын
ooh this is a cruel route to go down
@deltawarrior2323
@deltawarrior2323 2 ай бұрын
1:18 I like to think this is what she tells herself during true pacifist
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
Do you plan on doing a "what if you didn't shot Starlo" too?
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Late to this one but I'll probably hold off on that one since some other people have done/ are doing stuff with it mainly coming the 'what if you could throw away your shot' video by Robr0 which is a pretty good video and follows the premise which you just asked! Also a fan-mod called 'Dust Devil' being worked on which again follows the same idea but with a battle against him after
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
@@JQR. Yeah, I saw that, really cool, I think it could have another video if you backtrack to town after steamworks or something, but it might be too work. Really like the part where Flowey resets, really shows how he is stopping any happy endings for Clover
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought it was pretty neat too! As for backtracking after the steamworks, (I'm pretty sure it wasn't included since the big vault entrance locks behind you after entering, and fast travel isn't available if you completed genocide requirements for snowdin, in base game) @@ViniciusDiasissy
@johay899
@johay899 2 ай бұрын
@@JQR. that’s different from what if you spared him simply being if clover didn’t fire after he shot the fake bullets
@BrendaVazquez-kr2fc
@BrendaVazquez-kr2fc 2 ай бұрын
Hello, I don't know if you're going to see this but I need some help in Ceroba's Boss when the 2nd phase arrives (he gets the red staff) the maximum life starts to come down from nowhere without the lightning strikes, I'm dodging and little by little it goes down and I don't know why, I look in the videos and I don't see it happening to anyone else, do you know why it happens?
@xroelyboy457x7
@xroelyboy457x7 2 ай бұрын
You cant touch the edges of the box in the second phase
@JQR.
@JQR. 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, what the comment above me just said! In the second phase the borders of the box start draining your health if you touch 'em, you may have been accidentally hugging the box there and that's why your health started dropping, took me a while to figure that out also :,)
@sis34ter
@sis34ter 3 ай бұрын
Ok why is your hearts not going down WHY US MINE GOING DOWN IM NOT EVEN GETTING HIT
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
In fase 2 of her fight(her staff get red) the box borders also get red and take max hp too
@ViniciusDiasissy
@ViniciusDiasissy 3 ай бұрын
In other words is not suppose to go down, you just aren't dodging it
@allenmataro9357
@allenmataro9357 3 ай бұрын
This is gonna explode violently on youtube
@souptaels
@souptaels 3 ай бұрын
You really gotta get yourself an editing software that isn't Aseprite or whatever you use. The quality shift was real
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
If you're referring to the sound delay on Ceroba's cutscene, that's more just me at fault since I didn't properly time the voice blips right, allat was in an actual editor! Aesprite itself was only used twice to animate the Ceroba cutscene and flowey bit, both have the same consistency as the regular gameplay sprinkled here, I'm not quite sure what you mean here Also forgive me if I'm wrong but you're the creator 'Undertale: True Genocide' right? Great to meet you if so! I think I remember playing a demo a long while ago, when I was a wee JQR'ling, it was pretty cool when I first got into the fan-stuff!
@souptaels
@souptaels 3 ай бұрын
@@JQR. Yes I am, thank you! In that case, I'd make sure you check if everything's alright before finalizing and uploading the video cause you can definitely tell what's actual game footage and what's made by you
@stavkous4963
@stavkous4963 3 ай бұрын
It was sorta an option
@afonsitito4099
@afonsitito4099 3 ай бұрын
This is peak
@EpicNoobBrother
@EpicNoobBrother Ай бұрын
I wish Clover wasn't as stupid in genocide route, bud just pull out your gun and SHOOT, DONT LET THEM SPEAK??? "Oh, wait, let me please talk and shit and oh also yea please let me go" Mf thats the exact reason why we fought ceroba and martlet, blud is too dumb to just SHOOT.
@Lavenderflowergacha
@Lavenderflowergacha 3 ай бұрын
1:21 Ceroba did a Sans 🤯
@brunolike8631
@brunolike8631 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone thinks she comits [quiting the game] once she knows Starlo dies on a neutral route?
@johay899
@johay899 2 ай бұрын
it all gets reset
@thesemiconservative
@thesemiconservative 3 ай бұрын
Wish I know how people animate these things.
@johay899
@johay899 3 ай бұрын
Same
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
I use Aesprite mostly to make scenes and create sprites, either that or the undertalemodtool for well.. modding!
@thesemiconservative
@thesemiconservative 3 ай бұрын
@@JQR. How do you get 'maps'? Especially animated ones like waterfall. Also, can I add dialogue and not just replace it with modding.
@JQR.
@JQR. 3 ай бұрын
​@@thesemiconservativeWell, normally since I draw over a recording the background is just one image, not really a map, if I ever need the screen to move or something I just splice it with another recording where I move the player character to the left or right of the screen and just edit them out after (Giving the illusion that there's a whole map)
@PhuongVu-sn8nl
@PhuongVu-sn8nl 3 ай бұрын
1:25 failed betrayal kill
@Ethanimations5334
@Ethanimations5334 3 ай бұрын
Flowey back sprite
@ls190v2
@ls190v2 3 ай бұрын
The psychopath route?
@Nickasmf
@Nickasmf 3 ай бұрын
**kills starlo** Oh my bad bruh
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