Undervolt your M15 R4/M17 R4 with throttle stop to improve Temps and Performance!

[@DaemionBlackFire]

I can't believe it took me over a year to find this video. I've been using throttlestop for a while but could never find a decent guide to set it up right. This helped a lot! A thousand times, thank you

[@adamzee4950]

Just got my M17 R4 and this video has been IMMENSELY helpful. Thank you SO much! Temps are at low 80s and stable with a 100mV offset.

[@brysoncluff9887]

with temps under 80 are you gaming still maxed settings and are fans loud?

[@adamzee4950]

@@brysoncluff9887 I've since used my laptop in "clamshell" mode with an external monitor, and further dropped 10 degrees during gaming. Averaging 69-72 degrees now. Settings are maxed out for UQHD in order to hit 60 FPS. In Cyberpunk, that would be Ray Tracing - Medium. Fans are on performance or maximum. Not as loud as it is high pitched lol

[@shunsui5626]

@@adamzee4950 im in the 60's but my fans are loud but with my headset i cant hear the fan neither can my friends im gaming with, and i dont even use this setup the youtuber is using

[@adamzee4950]

@@shunsui5626 Meaning you aren't undervolted at all and running in the 60s during gaming?

[@shunsui5626]

@@adamzee4950 yes I’m on maiden warfare right now 62 •C

[@GaryWrightMusic]

Thanks!

[@finished502]

I just got my M15 r4 and will definitely will be following this guide. I put my r4 on full speed and I thought it was going to explode! It’s so loud! It also gets out air from the side vents like there’s no tomorrow. Still a Beautiful Machine though!

[@TheMessanger]

jajajaja I got mines recently and just setting up windows 11 it got hot and shutdown even when connected to the power adapter. Waiting on the new one but seen all this info I think I will buy a regular laptop. If your almost explodes gaming imagine mines just installing windows 11!!!

[@JD-kx8rt]

I love me those Alienware videos man keep them up👍🏻😍

[@MashITTech]

Plenty more coming. You will get sick of seeing them pop up 😂

[@JD-kx8rt]

@@MashITTech I was wondering how long would an Alienware M15 r2 with 1660ti and 16gb of ram and core i7 intal 9th 9750H last

[@MashITTech]

Do you mean battery life or system life?

[@JD-kx8rt]

@@MashITTech just overall with the specs and like gaming wise for how long will I be able to game like when new games come out will The hardware support it

[@MashITTech]

6 cores is still the sweet spot for CPU IMHO and a 1660ti will be fine for a good couple of years at 1080p, you may just need to reduce some settings on AAA games to run well

[@peterd5901]

When you change clock speeds on all four "settings" you also need to change the undervolts on all four too.

[@STETS0N]

Thank you so much for making this video i've been dealing with m17 r4 being at 100c gaming for 3 years. i wish i saw this sooner. I've been dreading open this thing up and repasting the CPU now i don't ever plan to do so. I'm able to play under heavy loads gaming 80c max vs 100c. This actually increased my performance due to previous throttling

[@MashITTech]

So glad it helped you

[@kdaddy5177]

Was able to undervolt my m17r4 with your wonderful video. Getting some great CPU temps now and better battery life. Thanks for making this video!

[@MashITTech]

No problem, so pleased it has helped 👍

[@TiGGer1098]

Wow! Massive improvement on my old M17 R3 after learning about bottlenecks with an amplifier enclosed 2080ti pushing the old i7 to 100% constantly. CPU dropped to 73C with your guide. Thank you doesn’t express how utterly impressed I am but thank you anyway.

[@MashITTech]

That's ok, I am just happy knowing it helps people :)

[@TiGGer1098]

@@MashITTech So I repeated on wife’s M15 R4 and offset 160mV to drop 9C down to 71C max and 45W down to 30W Clearly this is witchcraft!!! Nice one 👍

[@nextgengaming7803]

How did u get this to work? I thought dell blocked throttstop in a bios update?

[@TiGGer1098]

@@nextgengaming7803 well my M17 R3 bios allowed both undervolt and overclocking which was because of the i7 6820 but my wife’s M15 R3 only allowed undervolting but o/c was locked out. “My understanding” is that undervolting is permitted on all intel cpu Alienware notebooks, so I certainly recommend following this video to the letter. Ultimately can’t hurt to try?

[@TiGGer1098]

@@nextgengaming7803 Confused .... 100% thought I answered this yesterday?? Anyway it's allowed overclock and undervolt on my M17R3 on a i7 6820 but only undervolt on my wife's M15R3 "My understanding" is that undervolting is allowed on all intel processors with throttlestop and overclock is entirely CPU dependant. Recommend you try it regardless because no harm can come from it if you follow this video to the letter.

[@rahulrajrai1996]

I love this channel. British accent and detailed tech stuff ❤️❤️❤️ this is proper nerd stuff mate. Keep it up

[@MashITTech]

haha thank you, I sure will :)

[@kingdavig]

Great guide ... Can't wait to get my x17 and check this out again

[@sianikbd]

x17 won't need this. it has better cooling.

[@VindiceLibertas]

Superb video. By far the best one out there on utilizing Throttle Stop on an Alienware M-series. I would also suggest undervolting your GPU with MSI Afterburner. I just spent half the day setting up the undervolts and repeatedly benchmarking, until I got it tuned just right, with a custom thermal profile/fan curve. I'd been utilizing this Alienware M17 R3 for about two years, without doing any of this. Considering Dell has recently replaced all components, including the chassis, I'd best make make the adjustments and get as much life as possible from the unit.

[@IcedRiley]

Thank you so much, my m17 was running at 100c playing war zone and now it runs at 80c, should last me a lot longer now lol

[@Ventur8]

thanks im going to need this for a friend that is getting this computer, so he can be happy with the noise and get more battery time :3 , youre going to be a big tech youtuber soon, god bless you.

[@davidfrancis2163]

Great video. I’ve watched undercoating videos before but this was particularly helpful to see how you use the command center with throttle stop to view your fan settings, etc. can’t wait to try this tonight to see if I can improve mine. I was u able to adjust turbo ratio limits as the settings were greeted out. I will use your video as reference and try again tonight. Thank you!

[@skylerwright94]

Used this video several times and it still works. Thank you man!

[@ThunderingVipers]

This is so helpful dude. I have an alienware x15 and the temp of 100 degree is super concerning. I am going to try this tonight and see. If I keep it on performance and being down the core turbo boosts and wattage. I hope it will work completely well. Thanks again for this dude

[@MashITTech]

Glad to be able to help but Dell locked the undervaluing out on the x15 with one of their BIOS' so if throttlestop is greyed out you may need to roll back the BIOS

[@freemaysin5088]

The M15 R4 in white was the best looking laptop of the last 10 years imo

[@venisonslayer]

I just got my M17 in and working on it with your guidance.

[@MashITTech]

Great! any question please ask

[@zerohbeat]

Thank you so much for these performance / Undervolting videos. Really informative.

[@MashITTech]

Glad they help :)

[@VjRocker007]

This is a brilliant video, clear and concise explanation of throttle stops functions. You demonstrated all of the different performance modes as well which was really handy. Thank you for posting such an informative video!!

[@MashITTech]

Thank you for the kind words :)

[@scottb5178]

Very informative. Will be getting my M17 R4 in a few weeks. Can't wait to try this out. Thx

[@MashITTech]

Let us know how you get on?

[@scottb5178]

@@MashITTech Just received my M17R4 (18 days early). Already made some nice improvements with Throttlestop. Playing with Afterburner now. Loving it. Thanks for videos and reviews.

[@joltee9317]

Excellent video. Superbly explained!

[@DeadSpaceMartyr90]

Your video rocked! I’ve been putting off undervolting my M17 R4 i7 3070 and your video was exactly what I needed. Thanks you!

[@MashITTech]

Glad it helped! :)

[@nextgengaming7803]

How did u get it to work mate? I thought dell blocked it in a bios update?

[@DeadSpaceMartyr90]

@@nextgengaming7803 Really I followed the video exactly as he talked about and had no problems. I’ve even kept the bios up to date with Dell and haven’t noticed any changes. I’ll double check my bios settings and let you know if anything changed in a few hours.

[@DeadSpaceMartyr90]

@@nextgengaming7803 after checking bios I still have a TCC offset of 15 and throttlestop is still running great. Do you have a Ryzen laptop? I read that throttlestop and tcc are disabled if it’s running with a Ryzen.

[@nextgengaming7803]

@@DeadSpaceMartyr90 mine is the m15 r6, intel i7, I downloaded throttle stop again today, but it's still greyed out is the option to utilise the instructions this gentleman in video is giving out. It's very frustrating as I too have mine offset 15, so it maxes really at 84. But I'd love to tinker a bit more to lower it yet further with no penalty.

[@brah_ddah]

just got an m17 r4. This video ROCKS. THANK YOU. Also the out of the box temp differences between the m15 and m17 are surprisingly big!

[@MashITTech]

Glad it helped! And yes the m17 runs so much cooler 👍

[@brah_ddah]

@@MashITTech so I think my undervolting isn’t actually taking.. have they locked it in more recent BIOSes?

[@MashITTech]

What BIOS are you on? As far as I am aware they haven’t locked it yet!

[@brah_ddah]

@@MashITTech What's the easiest way to check on an AW?

[@brah_ddah]

I noticed that no matter what my voltage offset is, the Package power is somewhere around 61-70W. The multiplier lock works though.

[@hellawolf]

most comprehensive explanation on Undervolting.

[@awesomestuff6704]

Excellent video. This information on Alienware laptops is pure gold and not available anywhere. Could you please do these kind of videos on other laptops as well. ASUS ROG Scar 17, Scar 15 , Strix versions etc. Almost every gaming laptop suffers from these heat issues and your channel is a god-send to amateurs like us to fix the thermals through your amazing videos. Thanks a lot mate :)

[@MashITTech]

I sure will mate as I gradually get them in for review :)

[@iceiceice914]

Damn, you are the only one who makes full review of R4 series, which is quite useful. I don’t know what other KZbinrs are thinking, who cares what you like or dislike. Btw, is it necessary to do this with m17r4? Since it’s much cooler than m15. (10870,of course. )

[@MashITTech]

It is not necessary at all but you use less watts and run cooler for a few minutes of your time! Well worth it

[@pablofinn3451]

You are the man! A very well made, concise, interesting and extremely useful video! I've had my M17 R4 for a few days now and loving it. Will definitely apply an undervolt as per your guide. Looking forward to seeing your video on the GPU. Cheers.

[@MashITTech]

Thank you for the kind words. GPU coming out later and I am doing a conclusion video to tie it all together Thursday. Been really enjoying these machines :)

[@pablofinn3451]

@@MashITTech A quick question mate, what difference will switching between the Quiet and Balanced profiles on the undervolted CPU?

[@MashITTech]

Ok, I will cover this in my final video tweaking the m15r4 but essentially: Quiet mode locks your cpu at 45w Balanced mode let’s the cpu max out up to 105w (less if you undervolted) Once you apply the undervolt the quiet performance will still stick at 45w but you will get more performance for that 45w than stock. The balanced will run as in my video so hopefully cpu maxed at 4ghz with less watts than stock (mine was 84 I think)

[@kohaashi]

@@MashITTech after you’ve created your throttlestop profiles, do you create a custom fan profile on AWCC and then leave AWCC alone and just alternate between the throttlestop profiles? Or do you still switch profiles in AWCC?

[@MashITTech]

Personally I leave command center alone in balanced and do all my CPU tweaking in throttlestop. As per the video I use different profiles for different things (by reducing the multipliers the temps and watts come right down making this thing so quiet in comparison with stock)

[@hellknight03]

I followed this on my m17 r3 and with -90 mV offset it runs beautifully and cool!!

[@debuggingJedi]

thank u so much, fixed my same problem on area51m r2

[@WILSONsHobbies]

Thanks for the video. I have the alienware m15 R4 3080 with the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz on a 34inch 3440x1440 160hz ultrawide monitore. TCC SET AT 10. My stable undervolt on performance with all clocks stock is - 135.7 (both cache and core). Ran throttlestop on 960m size and received a score 67. Ran this for about 3 times. No errors. Ran it again at 7680m size. No errors. Ran time spy, with overclock on 3080 at 150 core clock, and 250 memory clock. received score of 11854 Ran cinebench (sorry i forgot the score)- no errors. I set my fan speed profile in AWCC customized to ramp up the fans 10 percent each 10th of 100c (80 percent speed at 80c). My max temps when not on high load is 85c. This is the best i can do on performance mode , playing on a 1440p monitor 160hz

[@MashITTech]

hello mate, sounds like you have done a good job! Your scores seem solid considering the m15r4 has a slightly weaker cooling solution than the m17r4.

[@RelentlessPlays91]

Such a helpful video! Thank you so much!! 👍🏽

[@malki777]

Hi @Mash IT. There are 2 questions. 1. So, at 9:10 we can see, that M15 R4 in balanced mode with undervolting -85.0 mV (core & cache) reach maximum 99°C and 87W power. Okay good, and have you tested M17 R4 with the same settings? Really wonder what maximum temperature will hit. I bet for 90°C !! :D 2. As I understood you didn't repaste laptops. How do you think about it ? I've found some posts in Reddit community that recommends additionally for alienware laptops immediately after buying to repaste on some good product like Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut / Kryonaut. They say that native paste is shitty a bit and repasting can help to drop temperatures up to 5°C more.

[@MashITTech]

Hi Nelson, ok so.. 1. It would be very similar even though the m17 has much better cooling. It is because the balanced fan profile doesn't ramp up until it reaches 90c+ to keep the laptop quiet. Don't worry though there are plenty of other profiles or you can use your own

[@malki777]

@@MashITTech 1. Hm....I've researched your another "Deep Dive" video and look what I've found kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJaXi6KPiN5nrNk (from 9:27) M17 R4 with undervolting -90.0 mV (core & cache) reach maximum 82°C and 76W power. I believe during this test you were running on "balanced mode" in Alienware Command Center (AWCC). Then it's really big difference (82°C for M17 R4 vs 99°C for M15 R4), or I'm mistaken somewhere?

[@MashITTech]

Hmm you could well be right, I have been running so many benchmarks I am confusing myself 😂 I will go back over my tests

[@MashITTech]

Hi Nelson, I see you replied about undervolting being locked out in new BIOS but for some reason I can't find the thread so posting here! Did you manage to roll back to 1.2? Please let me know ASAP and I will put an announcement out

[@malki777]

​@@MashITTech Unfortunately I'm not an owner yet and can't it test by myself. Okay, you wrote that your R4's were tested on BIOS version 1.1.0 and 1.2.0. At this moment the last version is 1.3.1, dated 23 Mar 2021. I created a topics in official Dell & Reddit communities about undervolting status. One guy said: "on a BIOS that new, you'll find under-volting is locked out.". Now I'm waiting for another replies who really tested downgrade from 1.3.1 to 1.2.0 (with unlocked undervolting) Link to topics below: www.dell.com/community/Alienware/m17-R4-m15-R4-BIOS-changelog-undervolting-feature/m-p/7839023 www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/mcyami/m17_r4m15_r4_bios_changelog_undervolting_status/

[@conspirishitheory]

Alright man. Since you know better, I decided to let you play around with all these settings and figure out what works best for gaming performance rather than getting my hands dirty. And then when that video comes out, I'll be the first one to drop a like. Also, two thumbs up for the extensive coverage you do on a model.

[@MashITTech]

Haha well gpu overclock if next then lastly I will do a conclusion video to put all the tweaks together 👍

[@conspirishitheory]

@@MashITTech sure sure. Take your time. It's gonna be a while till I can get my laptop imported anyway. Its stuck in USA. Wouldn't overclocking mess with the overall life of the cpu? I usually refrain from doing so. But if you can convince me otherwise I'll be happy to try

[@ecollazo67]

Excellent content as always.

[@MashITTech]

Thanks so much 😊

[@JackiePrime]

You’re the hero we deserve

[@MashITTech]

Thank you, first time I have ever been called a hero 😂

[@jordon2913]

THANK YOU

[@haagenfuchs]

Do you know how to undervolt x17 r2? Because when i use throttlestop its grayedout so undervokt not possible, i tried to downgrade my bios but not possible either to downgrade bios.

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

There was so hype about OnePlus launch event that I missed your videos yesterday.

[@MashITTech]

haha I feel hurt...kidding. Does the OnePlus look good? not even looked at it

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@MashITTech yeah they're pretty good but now they've decided to up their price significantly so that they can match with Apple and Samsung.

[@MashITTech]

Oh I hate that! the price was the main reason people looked to OnePlus products!

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

@@MashITTech absolutely.

[@sdauz]

Really thorough reviews.

[@MashITTech]

Thank you 👍

[@hukfx]

Got what I needed thank you

[@MashITTech]

Great! Got one more tweak video coming where I put all the tweaks together, and look at command centre 👍

[@yunchidd3863]

Great content, subscribed

[@MashITTech]

thank you 😊

[@oldarus]

thanks for this. great info!

[@MashITTech]

No problem, hope it helps 👍

[@GunmanBricks]

at 15:00 how i can get those temps and Hz on top of Time Spy? Great video.

[@MashITTech]

Thanks mate. That is explained in the next video in the series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioDMlISIasxqsLc it is using msi afterburner 👍

[@GunmanBricks]

@@MashITTech thanks a lot!

[@TheBinro01]

I must have received a decent paste job. With a -.075 undervolt and no reduction of multipliers, the max temperatures I got was 88C using TSBench. With Cinebench R23 I got a multi core score of 10631 with my max temp of 96C in the 10 min run. Stock out of the box the throttling bumped me down to 10216. Thanks for the great tutorial!

[@MashITTech]

Hi Robert, wow that is decent. You have a good one there! Hope you enjoy it 👍

[@TheBinro01]

@@MashITTech It’s a beautiful laptop. The 15” is a great portable solution for such a powerful device. I opted for the 144Hz screen since I only spec’ed the 3060. But I received a decent chip there too. I was able to overclock it rock solid at +160 Hz on the GPU core. I’m peaking at 9000 Time Spy with great therms in Balanced fan profile. Not bad at all for a 3060 system.

[@2009Windows7]

You should try a -250 core undervolt and a -140 cache undervolt reason being it can dramatically reduce power consumption depending on workload and temps, my XPS 15 7590 with a much thinner chassis can do 40-45 watts under 100% load and stay around 75-85/90 degrees, doing 4.0ghz on all 4 cores.

[@Blueraazor]

Holy smokes I need to do this

[@RuneBa1]

This crashes ur laptop

[@RuneBa1]

Don’t try this

[@kevinli9035]

This guy is certainly a warranty seller

[@starmember132]

@@RuneBa1 It may crash but not in all cases. I'm currently using an i7-10750H and the most stable undervolt by far ive achieved is -190mv for core and -90.8mv for cache.

[@johnsellars2692]

Thank you for this.

[@MashITTech]

No problem, hope it helps 👍

[@howiemandealt]

I tried undervolting, but the TS Bench took a lot more time, and after I adjusted the FIVR, it got an even bigger number

[@pplover213]

wow,i just made that setting,my cpu from 90 to 70 C now!!thanks you

[@MashITTech]

Wow nice difference! It’s well worth the few minutes tweaking it 👍

[@sages7328]

what setting you used?

[@dynamitedmoney]

Fantastic content well done mate! +liked and subbed

[@MashITTech]

Thanks a lot mate :)

[@teesmith501]

Got a M15 R4 not too long ago, first gaming laptop ever so I am a newb and completely clueless as to gaming on PC's. So I am still learning as I go. This is definitely something I will be attempting as I found that gaming laptops tend to run very hot. Also, would you have a video on how to upgrade SSD?

[@MashITTech]

I sure can, it is incredibly easy with these so will be a short video 😁👍

[@akinoz]

Awesome, it was really informative.

[@MashITTech]

thank you

[@MrDchristop]

You can also use the Fusion tab of ALienware Control to undevolt

[@thehorizon9552]

I HAVE THE M17 R4, THIS IS USEFUL FOR ME THANKS

[@MashITTech]

Glad it helps 😀👍

[@pool842]

Awesome info thank you

[@lateral-g8847]

GREAT CONTENT BRO, this is surprisingly helpful! just one simple question: when you create different profiles, do you have to adjust the voltage for each of them? In the video you mentioned "don't" but the panel adjusts itself (as you can see in the cpu core voltage box) to default (instead of keeping your changes at -85mv) at 11:37.

[@MashITTech]

Thanks mate. It should apply it across all profiles. I just checked my current undervolt and it has stuck across them all.

[@lateral-g8847]

@@MashITTech 👍

[@KeerthanGopi]

Can you make a video for the custom fan curve?

[@santiagoaguirredelgado7599]

Hey Mash It great video bro, you spoke eloquently and I really like you accent 10/10. I have a question for you, is a good idea to buy my laptop from Amazon or is better if I buy it on Best Buy ?

[@软件实验室]

Amazon get 30 days refund, Best Buy get 14days I think or 15

[@MashITTech]

Thank you that is very kind of you to say. I am in the UK, and here Amazon is the best option because of the great customer services and returns :)

[@williamspringer6437]

Dell boi, full customization and all that.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

was reading a bit on the throttlestop forums, some post from the author of the program. It seems that the cache is the limiting factor so a -70 on cache with a lower value on the core might actually work (like -100 or lower).

[@MashITTech]

Thanks for the heads up. I will have a play 👍

[@RISINTECH]

Do u have a video thermal stopper for x17 ?

[@MashITTech]

Not a dedicated video but if you watch my X17 deep dive I do discuss TS settings and also show how the CPU can be overclocked

[@Andy2586]

I have my m17 R4 i9-10980HK with a -125mV core / -120mV cache. The difference in heat and power is massive. I also use the TCC (in addition to throttlestop) set to 15, this way the temps never go much above 85 degC. By the way, great vids, keep em coming 😀

[@MashITTech]

Brilliant, glad to see other people making use of throttlestop it is an amazing bit of software :)

[@maegnificant]

can you run a 30 min cinebench session with these settings and still be stable? that would be awesome!

[@Andy2586]

@@maegnificant im now running at -130mV core / -120mV cache. Have been stable for 3 days now (0 crashes), this includes multiple benchmarks / stress tests including 1 hour cpu stress test. Seems to save approx 15w of power consumption when at full load, never exceeds 90W.

[@maegnificant]

@@Andy2586 wow! I can't go that high, I'm at -78 for both. gonna repaste it soon, I think

[@Andy2586]

@@maegnificant theres a guy on notebook review forum who is stable at -145 core and -125 cache. Do you have the i9 or the i7?

[@jacobchristiansen5008]

Thank you for the video! However, I am noticing worse base scores on TS Bench than yours. (I'm assuming lower scores are better) Stock, I get a score of 91 and on -75 mV I get 107. What can I do to achieve scores similar to your "Dell Shipped" scores? I have an m15 r4 with an i7-10870H and RTX 3070.

[@Mostafaahmed06]

I have the same issue did you solve it

[@Paulie8K]

Great guide but I have a few questions. First in regards to your Cinebench score. I have this laptop with the same specs expect for a 3080. My single core score is 1126 while yours is over 3K. I'm wondering why mine is so much lower? As a reference I'm using Cinebench R23 downloaded from the windows store. Second question is in regards to the undervolt when you downclocked the cpu cores on the gaming profile. You didn't undervolt there as you did in the performance tab. Does the performance tab undervolt apply to all profiles or do I undervolt in the gaming tab as well?

[@anuragnarayan7365]

Awesome video 🔥🔥🔥🔥 No one explains so good ❤️

[@MashITTech]

Thank you so much 😀

[@felipesiedschlagyopan4185]

I can't enable "Unlock adjustable voltage" in mine. Maybe they blocked this in BIOS. Anything else I can do? I would like to simply decrease the multiplier if I can't undervolt... Because those temps are too high and the clock is unstable...

[@TheIndustrialGiant]

The R3 could be heavily undervolted on the 10750h, no hiccups with -.115 cache, -.165 core. I wonder how high(or low) the r4 with the 8 core can go

[@MashITTech]

Yes, the 6 cores undervolt better! I had some great undervolts on the old 9 series and 8 series 45w hex cores! Unfortunately the 8 cores don't seem to fair as well, I have only had two so maybe I am unlucky but both were less than -.100 (.085 on one and .09 on the other). I have another m17r4 on the way with cherry mx keyboard so I will test that one too

[@TheIndustrialGiant]

@@MashITTech what's you ETA for delivery on that one? If you don't mind me asking

[@Connor013Minton]

I'm so glad the video is finally here! It's informative and holds my hand the entire way. I do have some questions though that are making me super anxious now. Because my laptop is so expensive I got a really good warranty, now will undervolting void this? If so then if I use tcc which is built in then will that void it? My other question is that I first see that you have these settings on an m15 so would I use the same settings for the m17? If not then what do you use that'd be absolutely safe and "stable"? I went to reddit and searched if Dell would void the warranty if anything happened with it undervolted BUT others commented saying using throttlestop does not store logs so it'd be impossible for them to find out. I'm just terribly worried that after all this time and all this help you've given me so fast and efficiently that I'd break my laptop, void my warranty, and all within a day of having it. Anyway, please let me know. I loved the video and like I said I absolutely appreciate how fast and informative you are with your replies. Great channel and keep it up!

[@MashITTech]

Using throttlestop will not void your warranty and neither will using TCC which alienware provided. If anything it will likely add longevity to your laptop as it will run cooler. Also the 15 and 17 are essentially the same so yes the same settings, it will just run a bit cooler because of the larger fans 👍 always here to assist if you have any more questions 😃

[@Connor013Minton]

@@MashITTech I'm glad cause I got 2 years of premium support plus... hate for that to void lol but I will absolutely take your word for it. What settings do you use to get the most out of your own m15/17 while staying as cool as possible?

[@Connor013Minton]

@@MashITTech do let me know if you can. I do realize that might be a lengthy reply but I do appreciate it. When I get my m17 I'm just going to copy and paste!

[@MashITTech]

Will do mate. give me a few minutes and I will detail exactly what I would do. Also the last part of my tweaking videos will cover this as I plan to cover command centre profiles and put all the tweaks together to show the system running at its best

[@Connor013Minton]

@@MashITTech yes! So excited!!!! Thanks so much.

[@acar14]

For me the top right corner panel when changing the offset showed 0 offset when i hit apply. Any idea to why that is?

[@thomasthornton1999]

Quick question how does the balance vs high performance on power effect the under volting? Or what does it do in general I’m not to sure just got my first alienware laptop and want it to last awhile

[@jessWow808]

Still learning. Love that your doing the Alienware laptops because I have one. I subscribed. Got 2 questions. If I offset the voltage on throttlestop, then not save it immediately, and run cinebench and 3dmark. Is the results off cinebench and 3dmark based off the stock pc settings or the throttle stop offset? What am I paying attention to when I undervolt it under throttlestop to know if it’s unstable? Do I just slowly increase till it crashes or so on throttlestop. Of course not saved. Just finding that sweet spot

[@MashITTech]

Thanks mate. Once you have adjusted the voltages make sure the "ok - do not save voltages" is checked and apply, you will now see your offsets at the top right so you can see they are active. Now run throttlestop. If you are not sure if it is working just look at the watts it is using during cinenbench. Stock mine uses 105w after undervolt it uses 85w! When you run the benchmark included in throttlestop, if it crashes or you get errors then the undervolt is too much. Also make sure you run time spy or similar GPU benchmark and also put the machine to sleep and wake it, if any of this causes a crash you have gone too far and need to back off. Hope this helps but ask away if there is anything unclear 👍

[@nikhilbadgujar6333]

Can you let me know the FIVR limits for i7-10750H cpu? My laptop keep crashing after i change the limits.

[@gsarmandas]

same here as soon as i change the voltage and hit apply it freezes and need to restart, from what i read you cant undervolt i710750h is that true?

[@joehao5844]

I just get my m17r4 and want to undervolt it. Then I get this video lol. Thank u so much！！

[@MashITTech]

Hope it helps you :) Got more tweaking videos coming!

[@joehao5844]

@@MashITTech It helps a lot！！！

[@lucasarruda5456]

Whats the game he’s playing at 0:16?

[@MashITTech]

That was old warzone

[@christianpajela183]

Undervolt is good! Is it recommended to overclock m17 r4 too??

[@MashITTech]

CPU or GPU overclock?

[@NeonLine]

@@MashITTech cpu

[@Шинабензин]

Please tell me what do i do if i find under voltage adjustment bar blocked?

[@tylergroves1780]

Awesome video! I don’t know much about computers but I just bought a laptop cooling pad that has fans to blow colder air into the intake from underneath. Would you consider this useful at all?

[@MashITTech]

I haven't tested any on the m15/m17 but I always prop my laptops up to give better airflow as they are always too close to the desk by default (companies trying to get the thinnest laptop!) therefore I am sure this will be better than putting it flat on a table 👍

[@antong3987]

What do you mean David when you say, "check your sleep modes"?

[@MashITTech]

Ok, to check stability make sure you put your laptop to both ordinary sleep (s3) and hibernate. If it resumes fine from both you are good 😀👍

[@PhantomTD]

Great video, I hit the lottery with an old i7 7700HQ. Manages - .170 offset is stable. One thing you did not mention, in a laptop with a colder cpu, the gpu usually also runs colder. Oh, and you can even undervolt the GPU :D

[@MashITTech]

That is amazing! And yes you can undervolt the GPU, but also overclocking it is as good as an undervolt as you still use the 140w budget but with a better voltage frequency curve. dropping an afterburner video shortly to help people that have no clue how to overclock :)

[@PhantomTD]

@@MashITTech Awsome! There is just so much hidden potential in laptops with undervolting!

[@francescomignone5416]

If i had set TCC at 15 before , do i have to put it back to 0 before undervolting using this method? Thanks for the help

[@MashITTech]

Nope, you can happily use both. You may want to find the best combination of them both for you. (I will be doing a further video where I put all the tweaks together to get the best from the system (it was just too long for 1 video)

[@kohaashi]

@@MashITTech looking forward to it. I will probably use throttlestop and set a tcc of 10. I think Aorus/Gigabyte have a thermal limit of 90 degrees so I may copy that.

[@MashITTech]

Yeah, I am more comfortable with 90c. 100c does seem hot buy macs have been running at that for years without problems, other than being a mac :p

[@alkatraz6170]

When you did the undervolt with the different settings for internet, gaming, etc do you still use the alien command center then? Like do you use balanced, or quiet or cool or is that not necessary? Sorry just got my alienware m17 and will be using mostly for 3d modeling and rendering and wondering if I ever need to change it to cool mode since I hve it on balanced...also silly question but do I have to keep msi afterburner and throttlestop running for them to work?..Many thanks

[@nickoloes]

Throttle stop and afterburner don't need to be open to function. They flash to the cpu and GPU control chips at the "firmware" level. Generally these control softwares from alienware, Lenovo, etc. are just adjusting the fan curve. Maybe high performance unlocks a few watts (or takes away with quiet mode) but I doubt it because forcing the system to throttle does the same thing. I would use the fact that with the alienware software closed completely it will save the fan profile-so set it to balanced unless adjusting the lights or whatever and close it down to save the processing power. With a proper undervolt and thus thermals under control you won't need full fans (and if you're like me can't stand the noise) and it would make little difference anyways. Then in quiet mode there won't be enough power used to ramp the fans up. Then you would adjust the profile you would like in the throttle stop taskbar menu as it controls the undervolt multiplier and uses a negligible amount of power to keep open. If anybody knows a way to have an open application control the throttle stop profile please let me know. Happy solid modelling! I get my X17 in a few months! Also if you do manage to save a bad undervolt setting and you can't boot, you will have to clear the cmos by pulling the cmos (button cell probably) battery from the motherboard and that will reset the cpu firmware controller like you would do if you applied a bad overclock with afterburner.

[@bullymaguire9211]

Yes u need throttle stop to run

[@harshverma-jj2zc]

Hey I wanna ask one question is higher 960M score better or lower?

[@lucal7756]

Same CPU on M17 but has vapor chamber and better cooling, so better temps in general. Am I wrong? How far did you push the M17 R4 with TStop and what temps did you get? (yep, I'm oriented to the 17" model ;-))

[@MashITTech]

Hi sorry, struggling to remember as I wasn’t as concerned because the temps were so much better but from memory it was just over 10c better on load. The 15” also has a vapour chamber btw but much smaller fans 👍

[@MaybeQ8]

for me the fivr control is locked and the cpu core voltage do you know how to unlock it ???

[@MashITTech]

What laptop and what BIOS do you have?

[@MaybeQ8]

@@MashITTech m17 r2 and i dont know what bios i have but i do all the updates.

[@MashITTech]

Ah sorry, I think this only works on R3 and R4 for some reason. No idea why dell would lock the R2 out 😭

[@malki777]

@@MaybeQ8 Hi. In Alienware m17 R2 undervolting is possible with a BIOS downgrade. You can get help in specific forum thread, just google it: *OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 R2 / m17 R2 Owner's Lounge

[@MaybeQ8]

@@malki777 thanks for the help bro :)

[@chimezieekenulo5277]

My m17 r4 no longer display... Please I need help on how to make it work...

[@Lorta21]

Do you need to undervolt each profile or just one for it to carry over to the others? I notice sometimes after restart it doesn’t apply to the others if I undervolt only one profile so is it safe to undervolt the others too?

[@bnosam]

I thought that undervolting was disabled on the newer BIOSes. What BIOS are you using in the laptop?

[@MashITTech]

Not on both my R4's tested with 1.1 BIOS and 1.2 BIOS

[@bnosam]

@@MashITTech I think 1.3 is the newest. Is it possible that you could a BIOS update? I would do it but I still haven't received my laptop yet.

[@MashITTech]

Yeah sure, just pray I don’t loose my undervolt. Wow see 1.3 came out today, maybe dell saw my video

[@ASMRReKTChan]

Any downsides for undervolting?

[@MashITTech]

None other than you might get the odd crash if you go to far 👍

[@quihuynh2576]

Hey David, Is the lower TS bench number are bettter?

[@MashITTech]

that is correct as it is time taken to complete the test 👍

[@feitan2699]

Does it work on Alienware m15 ryzen edition?

[@cgeorge3785]

I assume this can also be done with desktop PC's?

[@MashITTech]

It sure can but you can usually do it in bios so not as necessary 👍

[@cgeorge3785]

@@MashITTech Ok thank you. Do you have a video on that by chance, or could you direct me to resource on how to do it? Sorry, I am not too computer literate.

[@Podinac92]

We would also like to see is there any use of Graphic Amplifier port. Thank you

[@MashITTech]

That's a good idea! I will see if I can pick one up

[@kohaashi]

The AGA is end of life. It doesn’t even support 30 Series graphics.

[@MashITTech]

Somebody else mentioned that they are in the process of making an rev3 amplifier. I havent heard anything from Alienware yet though

[@gaithmubarak7017]

Love ur hardwork keep it up man! Quick question.. I have been thinking a lot lately and I didn't come to a conclusion yet I want to know if the alienware m17 r4 is the best option to get for gaming and stuff i mean.. Love the design and everything but with all of these battery issues idk am just hesitant. Is it worth it?? Pleas help

[@MashITTech]

If battery life is the deciding factor then get the 144hz with advanced Gsync then you get the best of both worlds. For me I don't care about battery as I am always plugged in therefore I chose the fastest screen option

[@Bidwellz9]

@@MashITTech exactly why i went with the 300hz ....as im always plugged in.

[@Ventur8]

you can set your screen on nvidia control panel to 60hz while not gaming, that will save you a lot of battery.

[@Ryanfsr]

The best video about how to Throttlestop on the internet!! One question though, when you were flicking between the profiles towards the end, does the undervolt remain on all profiles, or just the 'performance' one?

[@MashITTech]

Thank you, you are most kind. The undervolt will remain on all profile 👍

[@JudgeSim2]

if you uninstall throttle stop, will the computer still use undervolts? or does throttlestop always have to be running

[@MashITTech]

No sorry, you need throttlestop running

[@ademyilmaz2910]

when you drop the Turbo Ratio Limits.. why not the Offset Voltage?

[@home1231]

wow. amazing videos .

[@home1231]

Does these undervolts apply to the razor blade 3080? the specs r pretty much same ..

[@MashITTech]

I am not 100% sure as I don't have the 2021 model yet but Razer locked out the undervolts on the 2020 models :(

[@ethandoan6271]

Absolutely wonderful tutorial. My m15 r4 used to repeatedly max out at 100 C when playing dying light 2 for a couple hours. Now it fluctuates between 83 and max 90. Awesome!

[@MashITTech]

So glad it was a help to you 👍

[@MrCougar1825]

Awesome video was able to under volt my new m17 r4 with 3070 to -132 and overclock my video card almost 200mhz over on core clock I think I might have gotten the lottery 🤷‍♂️

[@MashITTech]

wow, I think you have the golden sample! well done mate

[@harrisejaz280]

Thank you so much for this video. My sitch: Just bought a second hand M17R3 that was running 100C on idle. Found this video, bottomed out all core multipliers(didn't touch voltage). Now it's staying between 55-80, average 65. Minimal impact on gaming. Success?

[@MashITTech]

glad it helped. These did run hot out of the box!

[@harrisejaz280]

@@MashITTech IS there any way to make throttlestop run automagically on startup? currently I have to manually run the app everytime... Or alternatively is there a way to underclock the cores indefinitely?