Unearthing the Past: Archaeology of the Rogue River Indian Wars, 1853-1856 | Mark Tveskov

Tveskov is on the faculty of Southern Oregon University's Sociology and Anthropology Program and is Director of the Southern Oregon University Laboratory of Archaeology. His popular 2013 Windows in Time presentation was taped as an encore presentation for an episode of The Southern Oregon History Show.

[@Jimpotts]

Great video . Thank you for all you do unearthing our beautiful states history .

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

Thank you for taking the time to write

[@kevinthompson7647]

Outstanding! Pioneers of the past,Pioneers of the future. Bless you for sharing knowledge

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

Thank you kindly!

[@AntiQris]

What a note to leave on. Great work!

[@loganforgey4281]

Great presentation- my 3rd great-grandfather, Jacob Duback, an enlisted man, fought in the Rogue River wars. After the wars, he came up to Fort Vancouver in 1858 and settled in Vancouver, WA. We're still here.

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

So very very interesting to hear from you!

[@IHUTCHI]

Great talk! That really expanded on the information i have collected so far. Thank you!

[@JoshuaShepherd]

Excellent presentation. I wish there was some better matching of artifact photos with the monologue.

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

Yes, the presenter had some concerns about release of materials for fear of looting. If instead you are saying there is a timing problem, I will check for that!

[@sowireless]

"War is a money making business." What a note to end this excellent presentation on! It was an eye opener. Thank you.

[@shipwreckhubbard326]

Falls creek off of grave creek is the beginning location I believe as 69 caliber bullets dating to the mid 1800s have been found in that area .

[@ponolovefarms3926]

Shipwreck Hubbard I hike that area a lot, so beautiful

[@galimirnund6543]

My father has books dated back to his year 1853. If I could follow that history and know where they came from..they are only scrap books but filled with so much history..

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

Wonderful to have access to such historical materials!

[@galimirnund6543]

@@StoriesofSouthernOregon Actually I worded that wrong... my father gave me a book it's a store ledger written with quill pen..it also has poems pasted inside on a lot of pages. The earliest date I can see is Nov 9th 1853. It has a card in it with General Edward F. Jones. I think that was the civil war? It was preserved in between the pages. I called the museum and it's illegal for them to look at it for some reason. But, they told me to store it in an acid free box...where do you get those? It has a cut out picture of Thomas A. Hendrix democratic nominee for vice president. There are no camera photos in this book they are all drawn. It has a page in it from the illustrated buffalo journal dated 1888. Maybe I am blowing this out of proportion but man this is incredible to look at.

[@mfb2013]

What museum? That sounds like an odd response. Gaylord carries archival supplies.

[@piescespiesces602]

Great video, a lot of interesting info. I wish some good maps were included. It would be very helpful.

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

We're glad you enjoyed the piece. Maps were not included to protect the sites from theft and abuse.

[@eddytibbets1424]

has anyone looked for that mass grave of native Americans that were killed by vigilantes. It has been covered by the back waters of gold rey dam(which is no longer the case) it should be not that far from a oak tree that was used for artillery practice by army (look for canon balls) when you find them you are not far from site. It should be accross the tracks from chief tolos grave site

[@motherofangels1710]

History is almost always less about the past than it is about the present. Most "history" that has ever been told to anyone carries an agenda, wrapped around belief systems, ideologies, principals, values, morals (or lack thereof). The overly repeated "history is told by the victors", may not be a one size fits all, however rings true in some sense more often then not. That thought in it's most infantile form gives a very simple and practical explanation... the dead are not known to write books, but frequently are characterized in them. Man goes about life sure of his basic knowledge of life and surroundings, the then and now all neatly categorized. Yet mans curiosity being what it is always finds a few pieces of the puzzle don't fit. That quest and passion to seek out facts in a sea full of ½ truths, exaggerated tales, agenda filled recollection, suppressed and/or forgotten knowledge, always reveals just how much there is, in existence at any given time that man doesn't know. Although my family (paternal side) did not migrate to southern Oregon until 1903, I remember growing up being told by family about the atrocities and vile behavior toward natives. It didn't at all reflect what the public schools taught, and to argue with a licensed educator about regulated textbook content was a big no no. I'm glad you & others are seeking out facts and helping to open eyes on the local history without biases. One question though... how on earth did you guys handle the endless blankets of mosquitoes while tromping around out there?! They looked brave out there waving their detectors with no protection (that I could see) from the swath of valley vectors.

[@ThatLad685]

I think it’s important to point out that fort lane was created to protect the Indians from the white people and the miners who kept instigating the Indians. Also the federal government was very hesitant to get involved and neglected the whole issue for a while until a few massacres (both white massacres and Indian massacres) forced them to get involved.

[@baseballhaha]

Recently found out a relative served during this unfortunate conflict, any chance you found words on a Capt. James Blakley during your research? I believe he helped found the town of Brownsville, OR as well. Knowing what I do about early Oregon history I’m sure this is information I’d rather not learn, but am interested all the same.

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

You might try reaching out to the Southern Oregon Historical Society.

[@TolyTheTolerBear]

What Indian tribes were in the Rogue River wars?

[@samueltilden9332]

Yep

[@OddityEssays]

Siletz

[@ponolovefarms3926]

Last surviving dragoon left that thumbs down

[@karenotte5420]

God that's fun

[@robertharrison5758]

The Rogue River N8v wars ENDED?!

[@starrrex3122]

26,40 pictures dont match what hes saying?

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

Sorry about that!

[@rab6453]

and in the end des aese and pandemics killed 90% of the indians.could still happen today.

[@emilymcfadden4360]

NO. The pioneers did not need the Federal Government, there were so few Federal Dragoons ( arrival at Ft Vancouver in 1849), as to be almost useless in the daily defense of the Pioneers. There were considered a joke by most of the Pioneers, this narrativepassed down to me through my pioneer family. When needed, they always arrived very late and after they had any use.

[@susiearviso3032]

The dingleberries seem a bit weird.

[@whoknowsidont.5147]

The beard us very distracting, sorry. We all want to be cool. Get attention. Why not just smoke a cigarette. Or curse and stuff.. I've missed everything you've said because of this comment.

[@StoriesofSouthernOregon]

He's beardless these days!