UNEMPLOYMENT - Are South Africans Lazy?

[@SibsM93]

I had a late friend, God rest her soul, who did maths lit, Geography and consumer studies. I did pure maths and accounting. We both ended up as Law graduates. She opened her own firm 2 years before her passing. So guys, you create your own path. Research, take in a lot of info, think of the future and whatever subject you choose, just make sure you excel at it.

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@SibsM93 Thank you!!!!

[@sazimoganedi6988]

Some of us are gifted in words...like we can write essays...letters ...emails ...novels ..drama books e.t.c not maths !!

[@TraceTheFace62]

Thank you!

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@TraceTheFace62 Listen, I am doing exceptionally well in thesis writing and I got that skill from History!!!!

[@Seipati2457]

We need to learn to speak in compassion and empathy. We need to learn to speak from the point of knowing. We need to learn to speak from a place of teaching but with space for compassion.

[@NalediMthwakazi-v4o]

agree

[@Botse.m]

True ❤❤

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@Seipati2457 Strongly agree!!

[@karabelongcangiso5727]

@@Seipati2457 Oh Yes!!!

[@ntwenhle.shange]

Agree, "Yall are so dumb" was wild, harsh and could've been said better

[@tutouringplug_rsa5387]

Some of Mpho's points are really from a point of privilege , you cannot argue that people who haven't had water and electricity for weeks should go protest in Sandton . I think for coversation like this one maybe yall should consider inviting education activists who strike in the beginning of each year so that when you speak about education of the black child you speak from an informed place father than blaming black people for reacting to a system which constantly oppresses them. Some coversations are more complex

[@msizihlatshwayo9209]

Pure maths is pointless if you’re not you going to do well. A level one in pure maths is not better than a level 6/7 in maths lit

[@IvaniMzamane]

exactly!

[@Keeks_1207]

that part !

[@lelomodise]

You spoke my mind

[@Botse.m]

Exactly 😭

[@TraceTheFace62]

🥴Maths lit does not “dumb you down”. Some people simply do not have the aptitude for pure maths. This definitely does not make you less smarter than your peers. We’re not all gifted the same.

[@MammiDearest]

Academics is not a gift. The ability to sing is. The difference is some people need to work harder than others to grasp certain concepts. Take your life into your own hands. Take your learning into your own hands. If you need to go home and watch a KZbin video, ask chat GPT and spend additional time to understand algebra do that. ❤️ The people who tell you Maths is hard lied to you, what makes it hard is you not wanting to put in the additional work. ❤️

[@SibsM93]

Eish that comment put me off, that time I did pure maths in high school and passed well. It's like our parents saying music is not a legit career. Not everyone is going to take the same path. Life is non linear. "unconventional" careers are also conventional. Career choices are vast, you just need information. Also make sure to pass maths lit well, if you are going to take it as a subject.

[@NalediMthwakazi-v4o]

@@MammiDearest people put in the work hey, your view on this specific topic is very narrow . Or maybe its the deliverance.

[@MammiDearest]

@@NalediMthwakazi-v4o not everyone 💕don’t use 10% of a 100% population as an example. I have a friend who’s doing Accounting at UJ, she comes from a school where the teachers failed them, and did not make it a point to try and educate them but she went out of her way to teach herself. I am not saying it’s easy, I don’t believe the government is doing enough. All I’m saying is if you gonna sit around and wait for the someone to finally do right by you, you will die sitting. 💕 It’s gonna be harder for some than others but you have to try. Complaining about a failed institution won’t change your circumstances. Your consistent effort will.

[@MammiDearest]

@@SibsM93 I said exactly this, I did say that doing your research is important and not to limit yourself to certain career paths, but if you are like most of us black children who don’t live for ourselves but rather to take our families out of poverty. You can’t always follow your passion. Yes you could succeed but are you willing to take a chance with the 70% that you will not. Can your family afford another generation of poverty❤️

[@AnnahChego]

Mpho is on point, very realistic, very mindful❤️👌👨‍💼👩‍💼

[@NalediMthwakazi-v4o]

Mpho needs to work on her deliverance , she does come off as condescending a bit with the way she expresses certain points. love them loads though

[@Kagiso_Lesejane]

I am personally offended by the views regarding learners who decide to do Mathematical Literacy as a subject hey, Mpho and Caiah are speaking from a point of privilege and being able to perform well at Pure Math forgetting that the next person's strength may not lie in that. If you literally have nothing positive to say about a subject that you did not study at high school, kindly keep your opinion to yourself instead of discouraging learners who are interested in Mathematical Literacy. I remember being referred to as "Letlapa" at high school and I can now say that I am a 3rd year LLB student with the very same Mathematical Literacy and History.

[@Ginny862]

Got a science degree, graduated with good marks but still unemployed. Decided to stop having pride and apply for leanerships outside of my degree and retail jobs. Guess what? Still got rejected. So i think the unemployment issue is better addressed by someone who actually knows the pain of getting rejection letters everyday, someone who has tried so hard to even study something new but can’t coz of funding and all. Someone from deep rurals. We have all tried out best best but unfortunately we won’t have proof that we really did try except the scars that we got when we came back from trying. I’m sorry but the unemployment is too deep for someone who is from a stable background to understand. And people can’t be saying “you are not trying enough,explore other options” coz i swear half of us have been there done that. It’s tough out there. Opened a mini selling business as tiktokers usually suggests and it still failed. Unfortunately we end up struggling with that distinction in maths. That’s the reality

[@Botse.m]

Oh my goodness what a journey I hope it gets better 🥺

[@SibsM93]

@@Ginny862 and this is the truth. I really hope you pull through. Your hardwork is not in vain.

[@mokobakiwendy9706]

Ma'am!?? You explained everything in my mind. That issue is better addressed by a person who knows is deeply, who is in it!! People do try hey.

[@Delightedzaza]

Same 😔 being unemployed isn’t cute.

[@rowchie_rocheyungani1736]

We are not lazy 1. we don’t have money to travel to other countries for better opportunities 2. We don’t have information on how certain things needs to be done to study abroad 3. We are fighting I won’t lie just that silwa sibaningi Others get the jobs others don’t it is the survival of the fittest. Sometime we give up being looking for a job is no pap n flacks 200 people graduate a year in 1 universities we have roughly 34 unis and we are all looking for jobs and even unemployed people are looking for jobs guys kunzima

[@ChangeX1]

I hear Mpho but I think some things could've been delivered better, The issue of unemployment is much more complex, it isn’t only due to picking the wrong subjects in high school or going for that "useless" degree, or simply not trying hard enough. In as much as those things are some of the factors that may reduce your chances of employment, the job market is crazy on its own as well, companies have ridiculous requirements, and many online certificates mean little to nothing & even with a degree that is considered to a "good degree", they still want experience for entry level positions

[@amogelangmokaila1011]

@ChangeX1 I totally agree with you I mean there's unemployed doctors right now. Who would've thought that would happen. Life is more complex now. There's even unemployed teachers,the one role we grew up knowing that if you did you'd be fine. I believe that anyone who has a job now is really having it purely on God's grace honestly because being unemployed could happen to anyone. I think they should've maybe did a little more research on it...or simply didn't choose the topic . Love them to bits though.🤍

[@MammiDearest]

Hence why I said 0.01% is our fault 💕because those factors are a huge factor. My goal was to try enlighten people to be employable in and above these factors.

[@NalediMthwakazi-v4o]

I agree with you 100%

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@MammiDearest just apologize and move on with your life mntase! The career and employment issue us a sensitive one and clearly bigger than you for now

[@MammiDearest]

@@nyamekancapayi apologise for an opinion? 💕 We don’t have to agree about a lot of things 💕

[@McC_Blessings]

I did Tourism and maths lit in high school, continued at college, i'm currently in Pennsylvania, USA. There are a lot of job opportunities OUTSIDE OF SOUTH AFRICA. Study Pure Maths and science, if you wanna end up being unemployed in SOUTH AFRICA...

[@uniquelymade1000]

I just realised that a lot of people struggled to have nuanced conversations, and Mpho is definitely one of them. I hope you will dig deeper, read more and make an effort to understand all these issues that you speak of with clearly so much carelessness.

[@lelomodise]

But we cant all take the same subjects, there needs to be a balance. We need people in political science degrees, we need people in sociology - i really think we undermine these degrees and assume the best degrees are the ones that we require maths and physics. If we're being quiet honest, the people who are going to be solving most of our social issues in the country, their degrees do not require math . SA just doesnt create jobs for them to actually put their degrees to use. In order to dismantle poverty, lack of food supply, crime etc. we need your social workers, your criminologists and many more. The ability to think critically is not just routed in studying maths and physics , but even subjects that do not require your maths. Shu , shu, shu - i have so much to say but let me just leave it here.

[@TraceTheFace62]

Said exactly what I was thinking but I don’t have the energy to argue 🥲

[@kanyanemohuba8609]

spot on

[@Botse.m]

Well said

[@SibsM93]

@@lelomodise 100%. And with some degrees you don't necessarily have to look for a job, you can just start something of your own while having that educational background.

[@Reaaa.m]

@@TraceTheFace62same! All I can say is there’s no dumb subjects.

[@oreomario]

great discussion but it is imperative that we do our research before discussing matters of national importance, let us do better!

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@oreomario Thank you so much for this!!! The girls are less informed, research is imperative like you're saying!

[@KholsM]

Next time, please consider bringing an expert to adress these type of topics.

[@TraceTheFace62]

I agree

[@Naledi_Makhetha]

It's the consistency for me!!!!! Y'all are so informative, even my vocabulary has improved and I'll be writing my Final English P3 very soon, so it will come in handy.😊 Thank you thought buddies ❤

[@amahledumisa]

please no hate towards geography, very good and interesting career paths in that field. there are future geologists and environmental scientists etc in the making from subjects like geography.

[@asandamabanga9246]

A level 7 in geography is hard . Only 2,7% got level 7 last year jeezz .

[@ThabisoRatlou]

@Amahledumisa ESG has it's foundation based on Geography. You need someone who has Geography to understand the environment. Therefore Geography is not useless.

[@MammiDearest]

I would not know, I personally struggled with it in high school 😂😂

[@SibsM93]

Absolutely enjoyed Geography in high school and had thee best teachers for it.

[@asandamabanga9246]

Including me

[@thekasilifewithzethumangan2425]

Yerrr needed this information when I was in high school... it's chaii now😭😭

[@brownjewel54]

Same😞💔

[@IvaniMzamane]

you could have been a bit kinder with your opinions because they all came across as condescending! I couldn’t even finish this episode……..worst episode ever

[@thandomaimane262]

Nah real. I couldn't go through with it too. But each to their own hey

[@nomathamsanqamaseti8767]

Calling people Dumb? That's really not nice.

[@TraceTheFace62]

@@nomathamsanqamaseti8767 not nice at all 🥴

[@nthatifuma]

You guys are very right especially about avoiding the easiest route (the easier subjects or degrees) If you want to increase your chances of getting a university admission, choose pure maths and the likes If you want to increase your chances for employment, rather choose a tougher degree (not saturated meaning it’s likely to be in demand) because trust me you don’t even need distinctions to get a job

[@Opelong.Aobiih]

Maths lit is also important. When you bake there's math lit in there, when you drive that distance and time its maths lit, running a business there's math lit involved, math lit is also important in fact we live by it more than solving for X. some of us only solve for X that doesn't wanna leave our lives in peace but otherwise ke math lit

[@SibsM93]

@@Opelong.Aobiih lol I've never thought about it in that way. I did pure maths neh, but I struggle so much with units of measurement. I can never for the life of me get it right!

[@fancybasetsana6506]

I am not halfway through the video, and I already feel like I need a therapy session ASAP. WHAT!? I did all the subjects y'all recommended not to do. I have no words😭and I understand what you Mpho when you say it dumbs you down.

[@masegomatiko636]

Real, mpho has hard takes😂😂😂☠️but valid point no lie!!!!

[@Lovelysparkles-d4c]

The way Mpho and Adeola think and articulate themselves is out of this world😍❤

[@Ofeezy]

Well as much as it’s good to encourage more black learners to go for pure maths, not everyone will be able to pass pure maths. It’s pointless to do pure maths for the sake of doing it but not get good marks 🤷‍♀️

[@tatenda_ber]

it’s not about passing. it’s more about the process. it will force you to sharpen your critical thinking skills.

[@lelomodise]

I agree with you

[@TraceTheFace62]

@@tatenda_ber school is literally about passing. Critical thinking skills will not get you into university. Good marks will

[@tatenda_ber]

@@TraceTheFace62 critical thinking skills will get you through life not university. so many university graduates that are failing this life thing

[@TraceTheFace62]

@@tatenda_ber but the topic here is about specifically which subjects to choose that will get you into university and a good degree 😩. Again a repeat, critical thinking is a soft skill (a very important one) but it will not get you into university. Simple. Also simply doing pure maths in high school will not automatically give you/ improve your critical thinking skills. There are sooo many other ways to do that.

[@karabodikobe]

Man Mpho, you're speaking from such a point privilege. Yikes. In terms of the striking, so are you expecting our parents to walk to the suburbs when they strike? Yho ma'am, as someone who is slightly older than you guys and a fully developed lobe really screamed through this episode. I am so disappointed. Alas. 💔

[@K_manyesa]

Mpho really opened a can of beans with this conversation but heyy we love uncomfortable topics 😂❤

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@K_manyesa she is wrong though!!!

[@sekoaib]

The reason that other countries say we are lazy is because they know nothing but suffering and hardships in their countries. In order for them to get anything in their country they have to work hard, their leaders don’t look after their citizens: whereas in South Africa we have access to free healthcare free education, social grant and RAF, so they come here and see all these opportunities and they compare themselves to us. I remember one guy from Nigeria said I need to support my mother since she’s over 65 & I told them we have pension funds and that supports us and if you don’t have one you can get a grant, and they were shocked.

[@yonelaluciakonjwayo8307]

Lol I feel like you guys are undermining now... I did tourism & maths lit in high school, I did tourism in varsity and I'm working in one of tourism sectors now🥲. But I love you guys still❤

[@Remza-Luv]

Mpho was very honest, and as people we don't like honesty 😂. I read the comments and like what was happening when she used the word "dump" but listening to her full context and taking the full sentence she wasn't wrong. For as long as people sugar coat things, and are polite about calling us out we won't hear it. We also need to let go of the victim mentally and be objective and self introspect. To be honest there were some things where I was like OK she's angry 😂she needs a break but nothing she said wasn't true... We need to be called out. Luckily we have Caiah who said almost the same thing but she was so mature and brought balance to the conversation. She didn't become passionate, she chilled and walked us through her brain. This was a good one ladies, don't stop. Learn yes but don't stop being honest. ❤❤❤

[@nondumisomazibuko2867]

You guys chose a topic that you don't even understand. YOU didn't do your research and it shows

[@TraceTheFace62]

@@nondumisomazibuko2867 I think this is the second time this is happening and it’s so off putting 😩

[@nondumisomazibuko2867]

@@TraceTheFace62 And she thinks she ate 😭

[@SibsM93]

@@nondumisomazibuko2867 this one required more than research, it required EXPERIENCE!!!

[@k_mich.elle24]

This episode was so brutal i love it!😂

[@Botse.m]

Same unfortunately most people didn't receive it well.

[@Kaleyakankwende]

I think South African people are not necessarily lazy but the system makes us lazy unfortunately Please Mpho is spitting 😪📍🔥

[@givenmabussi]

I fully agree. As someone who did Mathematical Literacy, it definitely incapacitates an individual academically, and because STEM programs are essentially the future of probable employment because many careers will be phased out by AI & Robotics. We really need to eradicate procrastination & laziness from our lives, because this is exactly why we underachieve at school & such complacency would only be evident and hard hitting once you've left high school, and your options in tertiary are then limited & you only have admission to qualifications that are saturated & will leave you unemployed. I'd even go on to say that Mathematical Literacy must be phased out of the South African curriculum. Pure Maths must be compulsory for everyone and a reform in our subjects too. Early child development & foundation phase in primary school needs a lot of work, with basic arithmetic because kids are struggling with basic Maths.

[@lelomodise]

@@givenmabussi but then again we need to consider the fact that not all degrees require pure maths. I hear your point, i actually feel that maths lit is pointless to a certain extent, depending on what you intend on studying,because even when I applied for bcom in accounting, I had to make sure I always have my mathlit mark above 70% to ensure I at least get considered. Now, my question is, there needs to be a balance. We cannot all be engineers, doctors etc. (And I mean this with no disrespect) I think the problem is that our government is not focusing on creating jobs that South Africa needs such as your social workers, criminologists, instead these degrees are looked down upon when in actual fact we , especially as a country that has so many social issues , we need to be creating these jobs. So , in my opinion, the problem is not the subjects entirely but the lack of job creation for degrees that do not require your physics and maths subjects. I do believe that not everyone is going to be good in pure maths unfortunately. I do think (if you really know the degree you are going to do does not require maths) stick to maths lit because a 60/70% in mathslit is better than a 30% in pure maths.

[@givenmabussi]

@@lelomodise I totally agree with your point and we definitely need government, along with the private sector to ensure that there's job creation, especially in artisan work, which I commend TVET College's for doing. The more work created, to cater for qualifications that aren't in demand, the more employability but now the issue is AI & Robotics. There's so many qualifications that have technically become "useless" because automation has taken over, and my biggest worry is that AI will be intergrated so quickly, leaving so many young people behind, considering how marginalized we are already due to the lack of resources. So, we've got a huge issue on our hands as the youth of SA. Henceforth, there's a reason why Pure Maths is a lot of desirable to do, so that in the event a career is phased out, there's options. It's a weird time to be a young person, because there's so much uncertainty of how the world will look like in a decade or two. But, I completely agree with your view.

[@sazinkosi]

@@lelomodise out of every language in this world you could've chosen to speak, you decided to speak facts!😮‍💨

[@luluthosishuba1292]

I want to detox as well but how am I going to when thought digest is so addictive 😭❤

[@ayandajudith3073]

🕴👔Enjoyed this thought provoking and personally triggering episode!💕 To more great conversations!

[@rifumo1172]

NOOOOOOOO! SO LOUD AND SO WRONG AOWA,NO!

[@TraceTheFace62]

Sana! 🥲

[@atsilepaledi5636]

Love you guys for the consistency ❤😊

[@chwayitagrootboom6535]

Mammi dearest is pure gold ❤

[@Botse.m]

I was literally about to go to maths literacy 😂 😭. Eish let me just pull my socks.

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@Botse.m do Matt's Lit plans mntase...You have a choice! There is valid reasons for these subjects...Do not listen to misinformed people

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@Botse.m Mntase, do your Matt's Literacy if you have a valid reason for that, don't get discouraged...Not one is mandated to do poor Maths😉!

[@thabi2327]

I remember when i was in matric in 2017,our Maths teacher told other learners to go do Maths Lit because they were struggling , and he wanted their points to go be high when they finish. So weigh your options properly

[@fafahm]

Eish this topic is hectic, alot of things go into unemployment, I think you had a one sided perspective on it there is alot that goes into it

[@rethabilerasepae1973]

😂😂😂😂cheese girls 😅the roads are closed because unemployed people are expected to pay 15k rent in the townships

[@HeatherChifamba]

I feel like Mpho was right but people are not ready to receive the message .How does looting and stealing help the community. However saying at this point being unemployed is your fault wasn't right.They are people with very significant degrees who are not employed and its not their fault.❤❤❤

[@ncebakazidlamini2590]

"please don't do maths lit" say non specialists.

[@nondumisomazibuko2867]

Mpho was supposed to shut up because what bullocks did she utter for an hour sies.

[@Botse.m]

😭😭😭 I knew it wasn't just me at least you said it

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@nondumisomazibuko2867 tshini sana!

[@KholsM]

So disappointed. They must do the extensive research that they preach!

[@Techguy_babyboy]

Unemployed graduates😞

[@sipandrelax]

Mpho is right.

[@nyamekancapayi]

@Mpho, you are wrong by saying that no one is going to look at your marks in university...

[@Botse.m]

True because it all depends on what you want to study. Yes school is a priority but some kids can go far with subjects like geo.

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@Botse.m exactly 💯 👏

[@nyamekancapayi]

@@Botse.m Like, there us a lot of South Africans who are not informed about South Africa and it's education which is why we get a lot of foreign Nationals who come to South Africa for opportunities, not just for jobs but for education. Their kids do well from out education system then we fight and think they are better do better than us while the information is there!!!

[@nneuoemosuoane131]

Exactly I did maths lit in high school and I’m studying Psychology … so it doesn’t 😢mean that if u did maths lit … u won’t go anywhere 😢

[@trudysono00]

I really have so many ideas to uplift my home town but the lack of capital is the demotivating part and also the process of getting funding is too draining😭😭

[@Mapalo-u1s]

its the consistency for me 🎉

[@preciousnikki28]

At 49:00 it's not your fault you went through that, but it is your responsibility to fix it and heal through it

[@nontobekoprecious4895]

Mpho speeaaakkkk!! ❤👔

[@Kaleyakankwende]

What I advice someone younger than me is always take pure maths (and maybe physical science) but you can take any other subject you want even business because if you think about it universities don’t care that if you did accounting for you to do BCom accounting you know… i say that because with doing the easiest subject and excelling in them you can literally pick any uni you wanna go too especially if you don’t know what you want to do in grade 9 you know 😭… but if you don’t have pure maths… it’s chaai the options will be very limited 😭😪

[@Youngandunfiltered]

Mpho is irritating me!🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️🙆🏾‍♀️

[@amogelangmokaila1011]

Thato please be mic'd up when you talk. We wanna hear you😢

[@Lazedee]

Yes please

[@Amxr2._real]

Yeah Caiah is right. In LO we did a personality test which helped me better understand myself and what would fit for my personality. Its called the MBTI free personality test available on the internet.

[@CaiahM]

Thank you ! I completely forgot the name of the test. It really helps

[@YPandGg]

Tourism to work in the Airports, for example, Mango l know someone who does what do you mean don't do TOURISM

[@lesedi3040]

They are just projecting their biases😂

[@khanyisilemapholoba6638]

Caiah's face?tjo! 😍

[@simply.33]

such a gorge 😔🔥

[@TeeTonui]

The track intro name pls😢 anyone?

[@Relo233]

I remember how much I used to hate accounting in high school and I was also told its for certain people and I applied for a course in college that involved accounting and In trust me now I pass Accounting with distinctions I am doing Financial management n6 right I just need a career advice on what I should do should i not find an internship..should I go back and write my accounting and maths because even my maths was not so good or what? PLEASE MPHO RESPOND AS AN ACCOUNTING STUDENT🙏🙏🙏

[@Kaleyakankwende]

I was very good at accounting still am… it had the highest mark on my matric… but even I knew gore being CA was not for me didn’t even apply for it… I’m in supply chain management (second year) and its so much better🔥

[@zinhlewandile851]

That's a very good course

[@Kaleyakankwende]

@@zinhlewandile851 thank you ☺️

[@rowchie_rocheyungani1736]

I haven’t listened to the whole video I just read comments doing maths lit doesn’t mean you are dump I didn’t understand the basics of pure maths the calculation as maths lit was better for me hence I got better matric results if I had chosen pure I wouldn’t have had the opportunity to go to Uj

[@ElisaMammbonani]

Hi, I am in grade 10 and I take Physics, Lifescience and CAT (Computer Applications Technology) I want to drop CAT for Business but now I am not sure. Should I continue with the subject and future proof my life, or do I go for business and get better marks there which could increase my average?

[@KukhanyaNDWENI]

Don't drop CAT because many courses do computer in uni and if you did it in high school you won't have to do it again

[@lelomodise]

Stick to CAT.

[@mathapelomphahlele5309]

I did CAT and I hated the fact that it did not have points in case you are thinking of going to varsity unless things have changed.

[@Lazedee]

Mpho is right on the black people they don't think before they act,they don't think about the consequences of their actions.

[@hernamemadss1028]

Im so mad at the editor😢😂

[@Lazedee]

What do u guys think of agriculture?

[@givenmabussi]

I want to delve into agriculture so much.

[@ThabisoRatlou]

​@@givenmabussimind sharing summary? Been hearing not so nice linkedin stories from agricultural students.

[@lelomodise]

Good choice. We need more people in that space.

[@yenkosithulamthembu]

Also with the subject chat, ( yes it’s y’all’s opinion) but I think y’all need to be stopped now. There’s a way to share your insight and be heard and there’s a way you guys do it and it’s hard to digest. Let people choose the subjects they see fit , thank you for the advices but we can’t shy away from the fact that some people are not gifted in numbers and that makes them feel even more dumb and by doing Maths Lit they can top charts it’s nothing new. And some of us did Maths Lit and today we have something to show for it, so it’s just a matter of preference and being able to work things through. (Do give advice but don’t dumb down what other people can prefer and are forced to do) . Great show by the way ❤️

[@SibsM93]

@@yenkosithulamthembu and some people having learning disabilities that require them to take those subjects said to be "easier", while they're in normal schools because they cannot afford specialised schools that cater to their learning disabilities. So they have to keep up with other kids just to get through school. So if marsh lit is easier for them, I don't see why not. I think this conversation is so vast and there's no way the 2 ladies could've covered it.

[@yenkosithulamthembu]

@@SibsM93 true I agree with you cause if maybe I was part of them I’d have raised that perspective and we would dive into it but because it’s the two of them they couldn’t go as far as that thinking point. (Just that my point is they must not dumb down subjects that others are required to do)

[@amogelangmokaila1011]

59:26 Also this whole 30% pass mark thing needs to stop because who is it helping. They dont accept you in uni with that 30% but they call it a pass? The minister needs to work on that too

[@nompumelelomkhwanazi7796]

From my understanding the reason why that exists is because not everyone wants to get into/go to university. So, it’s there to accommodate everyone 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@amogelangmokaila1011]

@nompumelelomkhwanazi7796 I feel like it's still not a pass though..doesn't matter what you wanna do after high school. They should make it 50 at least. Imagine you don't know 70% of the work mara you passed😭

[@Patricia.1707]

They can't change the pass rate unless all schools are up to standard so many black kids do not recieve the education they deserve so raising the pass rate would only make it worse for the Black Community

[@nonhlanhlafortunate8792]

saying people shouldn't do mathslit is so dumb and not nice.... moved overseas and they are able to understand why did studies water and electricity tarrifs as well as conversion not to mention things like speed...tell me with solving for x how is that beneficial to your everyday life? we learn about banks...water and electricity...temperatures speed...things that are our veryday life...cause even if you do maths and become a doctor jow will math help in medicine cause we even calculate BMI do you even know what body mass index is wena? dont be so dumb maths is not a master of inteligence so pls

[@nnonhle]

The lighting & quality 😩🤍

[@msimelelomtuse7684]

I hate how uncomfortably queit caiah is in this discussion because I felt she had way more insight for a person who's aware of township culture and mammi sounds like those blacks who talk about us with her white friends.

[@Damnit.finkie]

Right?! She was awfully quiet, and I feel like she had an opinion that was different from that of Mpho's, but just chose not to say it out.

[@louise_fadziso]

😭😭😭we need a redo of the game...we would alsi like to see the drawingss

[@YolandaMaphosa]

I would also advise against Maths lit. I took it and despite being a distinction girl, It didn't serve me at all in fact it set me up for failure. I am currently rectifying my mistake right now and studying a Stem degree with Mancosa. A different route to the same place, but I feel like I didn't even give maths a chance because I am falling in love with Maths only now.

[@IviweMaqwazima-gi3lp]

so what if i’ve already done maths lit and didn't get school is it okay to go back to high school and repeat my grade 12 and change maths lit ?

[@thandeka.8578]

not me eating while i watch this 😅

[@AsteriaShekudja]

Gorgeous gorgeous girls😍

[@IAmChosen9925]

Yall are going to allow 11 000 employees from foreign countries come here!!!!

[@Judii_lee]

Niya glowisha😍😍❤️❤️❤️

[@Kaleyakankwende]

You know… because I drive a lot… I talk to God in the car😂… it humbles me when another driver is doing bums on the road and God checks me😪

[@selactiv]

What I am concurrently watching with this video is another one by: Danielle - Money Making Homemaker, and she shared: Proverbs 16:9 and I read it in the *OJB* translation - The lev adam plans his derech, but Hashem directeth his steps. I think we strategize and plan our physical road or pathway/metaphoric journeys, manner or course (derech) in our hearts (lev) as man (adam) but don't often allow the Lord (Hashem) to direct our steps as we go out in search of business opportunities and job prospects

[@YPandGg]

I love Caiah so much but the mean Caiah is slowly coming out jus like the previous episode when they spoke about didnt even finish the pod super Hash cos the watcher relate while y'all don't

[@TlotloJasmineKooratile]

I'm so early 🎉🥳

[@ayandagumede8055]

when are you guys moving in together ?😀😀

[@tumelopule7960]

what is a 75 hard challenge?

[@big-forehead]

Go on a diet of your choice Workout twice a day No alcohol or cheat meals Take progress pictures everyday Drink 1 gallon of water everyday Read 10 pages of a non-fictional book And you should do this for 75 days without stopping otherwise you restart

[@karabelongcangiso5727]

Consistency ❤

[@beautymathabatha2204]

The worst episode ever, especially the delivery.. unfortunately this thing is not a blanket thing, we can’t all do physics, accounting and maths.. remind me of how physics students used to look down on everyone in high school 🚮

[@luyandasamukelisiwe165]

Yayy 🎉🎉

[@AllthingsLiv]

Mmmmh Mpho🌚

[@LethokuhleJuly]

🩷🫂💯

[@mpilompanza9101]

50:36 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@NolwaziMayisela-k1m]

👔👔👔👔👔👔👔

[@_.Alinah]

👔👔

[@msgibbs___]

I totally agree with you Mpho most people don't know what is going on between their legs, some subjects are not necessary I also think because AI is coming up, it should be compulsory these days.. My sister caiah i also did geography and remember absolutely nothing 🤕 And I'm willing to fail to get to win at least once. I've been saying, be smart when you protesting think of it through... and looting in your own area is pointless. 👔

[@menzibrazy]

these privileged kids talking a whole bunch of nonsense

[@lesedi3040]

Bro😢

[@AsteriaShekudja]

1:00 So good Mpho❤️

[@Ndumi_Mad]

23:23 me crying as a graphic design student😭

[@CaiahM]

Dude 😭💔 it’s so heartbreaking

[@Thehopefuljourney_0609]

@Ndumi_Mad no sis. There are so many freelancing gigs in graphic design now. Go to upwork, create a portfolio with your work neh and I am not saying it’s gonna be easy. On upwork u also have to buy connects to apply for work so if u still studying and have that NSFAS, pls use some of the money to consistently apply to those jobs.

[@selactiv]

Really having thought provoking conversations from this week 🤍