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@chinookvalley
@chinookvalley 10 ай бұрын
Hiking alone is stoopid. I used to hike by myself, with my dogs, all the time in the Co Rockies in an area 5 miles from home. One cold, winter day I stepped into a low spot and immediately got sucked into a creek hidden by the snow. I was chest deep and the daylight was drawing near. I dug for 4 hours to get out. NO ONE was around to hear me holler for help. My dogs stayed close to try and protect me, but damn I was cold. Fingers quit working, feet were numb. I finally dug myself out.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 10 ай бұрын
Man, I'm glad you guys are OK. Please take care, everyone ❤
@lh3540
@lh3540 10 ай бұрын
I always carry my Garmin inreach on the trails, even if I'm within sight of city streets. The new iPhone has sos satellite, Android should be getting it soon as well.
@chuteboxe39
@chuteboxe39 9 ай бұрын
One of the things Dave espouses is to always carry a personal locator beacon if going alone, they have gotten relatively inexpensive and it will save your life. Another point, out of all Dave's mysterious missing cases, he has never had a case matching his criteria, of someone who brought BOTH a firearm and a locator beacon. Never know what or who you'll encounter... Just seems like good sense
@egrogan6482
@egrogan6482 9 ай бұрын
If you read David Paulides (the man being interviewed in video) books, you'll find out there are even more scarier things out there that can happen to you.
@LoriKasprzak-kc7xc
@LoriKasprzak-kc7xc 9 ай бұрын
Locking tracking bracelets are easily available on Amazon.
@billykuan
@billykuan 10 ай бұрын
Number one rule when you go into the deep woods, is don't go alone. Number two rule don't go off the trials. I know both these areas and have climbed Mt. Rainier and almost fell 500 feet into a crevasse, thank God for my ice ax and training. On the way down I hit an ice patch that launched me down a snow patch my crampons couldn't stop me, with about twenty feet to go before I went over a ledge, I turned over on my belly and dug my ax into the Icey snow and stopped with about five feet to spare. I had five others with me, we had un-roped because it was gravel until it wasn't. I was so busy trying to stop with my feet that I didn't remember I had an ice ax, but one of my partners did and called out to me use your ax. That's why you never go alone.
@JFWick-yc3si
@JFWick-yc3si 10 ай бұрын
Hollywood should make a thriller horror movie about these mysterious events
@sgrvtl7183
@sgrvtl7183 10 ай бұрын
wow - happy you survived, frightening experience 👌💙
@jeffreycornish4436
@jeffreycornish4436 10 ай бұрын
I always go into the woods alone because everyone I ask to go with me will not I always go alone with the hopes I will get killed and get removed out of this horrible horrible world
@lchaney
@lchaney 10 ай бұрын
I live out here and don't have any friends. Sometimes you don't have a choice. I'm not going to just "not hike"
@walkerpercy8702
@walkerpercy8702 10 ай бұрын
Don't go alone anywhere ever. Wear a helmet at all times.
@lisalisa5180
@lisalisa5180 10 ай бұрын
If you dont know Dave's story, he's an ex-cop from Fresno. Known for his honesty, level-headedness, and trustworthiness, he was commissioned to investigate the Bigfoot phenomena and give his honest opinion on it. This lead to other areas of investigation, of which he has written several books and has made movies as well. Very intriguing to watch, if you haven't. I've followed him on KZbin for a long while now, and he really is the best investigator in this field. I can't say enough good things about him. The "suicide" of his young son, who made these movies with him, never set right with me. There are those who, lets just say, don't want what he researches to be told - for many reasons. I highly recommend searching him out, as you won't be disappointed. God bless Dave. He helps so many people.
@thelukeewan7602
@thelukeewan7602 10 ай бұрын
No, David Paulides was a cop in the bay area calif. Then worked hr for silicon Valley firms. Fresno?
@lisalisa5180
@lisalisa5180 10 ай бұрын
@thelukeewan7602 Maybe it was Fremont. I just remember he worked near where my father lived for 15 years. Thanks for the correction.
@thelukeewan7602
@thelukeewan7602 10 ай бұрын
@@lisalisa5180you could be right about Fremont. I recall one place was san Jose. He grew up in Cupertin. Used to watch all his missing 411 videos
@LightinDarkest
@LightinDarkest 9 ай бұрын
What his son was starting to touch on was the real truth 🙏 I believe what Ben was looking into could absolutely be possible ... I'm an avid fan as well ...
@egrogan6482
@egrogan6482 9 ай бұрын
I've seen the 3 films in that series about what he found; absolutely fascinating, very much worth watching. Agree with you about everything you said - except he didn't work in Fresno he worked for San Jose Police Dept.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 10 ай бұрын
I was hiking on Haystack(?) rock, got distracted and ended up falling 10-15 feet down a slope. I caught myself on a ledge...if I had missed it I would have gone another 80 feet or so into the sea. Waves were breaking below, so the rocks would have broken my fall before I drowned. I am a weak swimmer in the best of circumstances; coastal waters in April are brutally cold. People disappear for all kinds of reasons..this could have been mine.
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
Cannon Beach!
@Hatbox948
@Hatbox948 10 ай бұрын
No doubt some of these disappearances are accidents.
@k8eekatt
@k8eekatt 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you made it out!
@chuteboxe39
@chuteboxe39 9 ай бұрын
​@@Hatbox948not likely, the cases Dave writes about specifically rule out cases of misadventure, accidents, predators, voluntary disappearances, foul play, etc. In your case they would have brought in dogs that would have been able to track you to your probable demise. In Dave's cases, dogs can't (or sometimes, very oddly, won't) track. His cases mostly are very hard to explain away with conventional methods (although that is not to say there isn't some very unusual mundane explanation in some cases), to the point where leo and s&r cannot explain what happened
@lifeofreilly9943
@lifeofreilly9943 9 ай бұрын
So true
@sherryBLUE735
@sherryBLUE735 9 ай бұрын
I have been hiking in deep woods with friends before and suddenly had a very odd feeling of danger. Not sure why, but we turned back and didn't go any further.
@lifeofreilly9943
@lifeofreilly9943 9 ай бұрын
‘Spidey senses’ need to be listened to and trusted…You may never know why but it was smart of you to turn back
@dogmonday
@dogmonday 9 ай бұрын
Had the same feeling once. Turned back and hours later drove by and saw route was now closed due to bear activity.
@nunliski
@nunliski 9 ай бұрын
So your whole story is you got a little anxious one time. And you think that means what exactly?
@cynthial841
@cynthial841 9 ай бұрын
Are you a non-believer? Have you never had a weird feeling something was off?​@nunliski
@FancyForestPerson
@FancyForestPerson 9 ай бұрын
You were probably being stalked by a cougar.
@1bigdogthe
@1bigdogthe 10 ай бұрын
I hate it when someone says they passed a "polygraph", doesn't mean $hit, that's why they are not admissible in court.
@michah321
@michah321 10 ай бұрын
They're easy to fail if someone's innocent but very hard to pass if someone's guilty. They're used to rule people out for that reason
@herchelleonwood7463
@herchelleonwood7463 10 ай бұрын
an experienced competent polygraphist can be very helpful, but true its definitely not fool proof !
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 10 ай бұрын
The FBI uses them all the time, tho: they can definitely be helpful in initial stages of these kinds of investigations.
@imdawolfman2698
@imdawolfman2698 9 ай бұрын
Combine an Ouija board with a lie detector and you might just have something! HAHA!
@RickHorejsi
@RickHorejsi 9 ай бұрын
I'd never pay a nickel for that information
@alenahawke475
@alenahawke475 9 ай бұрын
I live in Port Angeles Washington, only 17 mi away from Olympic National Park. I was so glad to see that David was interviewed on the local news. I have been following his channel on KZbin for years now. I hope other people check out his channel and subscribe. Be careful out there everyone!❤
@jodybogdanovich4333
@jodybogdanovich4333 4 ай бұрын
I lived 17 years within the ONP boundaries on the North Shore of Lake Quinault. Same time the Blair Witch movie came out. 😱 Beautiful and remote but could also be creepy at times. Never have checked out Hurricane Ridge; on my bucket list!
@3Mudbone1
@3Mudbone1 10 ай бұрын
My friend was a professional trapper and sold trapping supplies and so on. Many years ago (maybe 30) his friend who was a trapper and the trappers girl friend and toddler were in the woods. Something happened and the two adults disappeared not far from Mineral Lake. The toddler was found unharmed by the Roy 'Y' by a department store. They assumed that maybe the boyfriend had killed the woman. Later they found his skull in the woods.
@Laffy1345
@Laffy1345 10 ай бұрын
Interesting story, did they ever find her remains?
@kazamareenkurios8197
@kazamareenkurios8197 10 ай бұрын
@@Laffy1345 Yes, they did. They found her first & the boyfriend's skull yrs. later. Not sure but I think they identified the killer too, they initially thought it was him because he had some violence issues yrs. earlier. The young child kept saying (before mom was found) that 'mommy was in a tree' It's a haunting story, wish I could remember the names, but glad that at least the child was found & reunited with her grandma (the child's pic was posted in a newspaper, that's how her grandma located her after reporting them missing).
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
​@@kazamareenkurios8197With the info you have shared we may be able to Google this incident!
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
I found this case under tube sock murderers and I mentioned mineral lake and camping! Another prior double murder happened before this one! The child was found out side a K- mart store 2 mi. away! She said Mommy was up a tree! 😮
@kate1269
@kate1269 9 ай бұрын
Mommy was in a tree huh? I wonder if he saw some supernatural thing happen and mommy literally got taken into a tree. Who knows.
@catherinemesick6018
@catherinemesick6018 9 ай бұрын
Read David Paulides books and watch his movies. I’m a long time fan of David’s work. He is a retired police detective and does thorough research. You won’t go into the deep woods alone again.
@bjmcmahon722
@bjmcmahon722 9 ай бұрын
Yes, his channel is excellent...!
@catherinemesick6018
@catherinemesick6018 9 ай бұрын
Yes! It is an excellent channel!! I never miss a video he puts up.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
He is a disgraced cop, got caught trying to solicit autographs from celebrities while serving as a court liason. His research, if you call it that, gets debunked on a regular basis. You 'villagers' need to do your own research and quit taking DP for his word.
@ManyfiresWoman
@ManyfiresWoman 9 ай бұрын
I attended a Sun Bear event on Mt. Rainier in the mid-90's. It was a large group of people and most of the time I was involved in group activities. However, the 1st night I had trouble going to sleep. I went to take a quiet walk around the camp when all of a sudden I got this "bad feeling". I stood at the entrance of our tent and looked out into the forest. The odd thing was that there wasn't a single night sound... always an indication to me that there was a major predator in the forest. I stood there and felt my heart start pounding in my chest with an overwhelming sense of fear. I looked around at the others sleeping to see if anyone else had awaken. But all was quiet...too quiet. The 2nd and last night we were there, I was too frightened to sleep. My logical mind kept telling me there was nothing wrong but my intuition warned me to stay vigilant. Mt. Rainier is an old and beautiful place...but it wasn't safe. I never went back.
@didymos32
@didymos32 9 ай бұрын
sounds intense 😳 - the silence was a dead give away that something was there that did not belong there. always listen to the sounds around you 👂🏼
@calinurse1205
@calinurse1205 3 ай бұрын
There's something there. That doesn't want people there! Your experience is scary but relatable that's why we were born with instincts
@WalterHildahl
@WalterHildahl 9 ай бұрын
The under grow is so thick in Western Washington, that that would explain any disappearance. You can't see farther then 50 to 100 feet in any direction. a lot of times even less.
@nunliski
@nunliski 9 ай бұрын
Don't tell that to the 411 believers. They actually believe that the disappearances are the result of some nefarious operation conducted by Bigfoot, the government, and possibly aliens. I am not joking or exaggerating. That is what the Missing 411 is about.
@ryanstewart1521
@ryanstewart1521 10 ай бұрын
Man disappears in Elbe hills near Mt. Ranier, me being raised up there as a hunter tracker offer to help police locate this lost man. Police/rescue refuse my local knowledge, man dies in forest.
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
Well that was very sick! So sorry they refused help! 😮
@DChristina
@DChristina 10 ай бұрын
You’d think they’d welcome 6:27 a local with specific knowledge- but egos get in the way. Or maybe “their insurance made it prohibitive” or some such nonsense.
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 9 ай бұрын
Just driving up through Elbe is spooky enough. There’s something not right up in them woods…
@chuteboxe39
@chuteboxe39 9 ай бұрын
Most of Dave's cases rule out conventional or mundane explanations such as misadventure, accidents, predators, foul play, voluntary disappearances, etc. (though sometimes his research falls short on details).
@elliewall7621
@elliewall7621 9 ай бұрын
That happened in SE Washington when a teenager left the trail from his cross country skiing companions. The locals who knew the area like the back of their hand, were not allowed to help search for him. The boy was found dead from hypothermia the next morning. Too sad.
@JTSunriseMusic
@JTSunriseMusic 10 ай бұрын
Sorry for the people who got lost and their families. This news channel is cool and the hosts are nice and easy to watch and quite stylish ❤
@Zealor365
@Zealor365 9 ай бұрын
I have hiked alone for 25 years. Still have not gotten lost or died. I'm one in a million!
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll 9 ай бұрын
It's important to know your limitations. Don't hike alone in inclement weather or anywhere you're not familiar. Also don't take on hikes that are at the limit of your ability. I see people hike alone in the deep snow miles from the nearest popular trail and have to wonder how many lives they've used up.
@carlaharrington5120
@carlaharrington5120 10 ай бұрын
The missing case in Washington that I find the most interesting is the case of Sam Sayers. They had experienced searchers out looking for her within hours of her disappearance. They hired private search and rescue teams who spent months scouting every inch of the area she vanished from with dogs, drones, etc. Never found a single trace of her. My guess is that she made it off the Mountain and was abducted in the parking lot at the trailhead!!
@xxxsandman
@xxxsandman 10 ай бұрын
the tardigrades got her , and took her underground
@lenac2284
@lenac2284 10 ай бұрын
@@xxxsandman Many have said, yes, they are being taken underground (but into the DUMBs) for adrenochrome. I would not be surprised. The world is asleep to so much.
@pinoyRN67
@pinoyRN67 10 ай бұрын
who is the abductor
@teresadvorak6145
@teresadvorak6145 10 ай бұрын
My guess is she was taken from the sky 😮
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
😮It would be easy to fall in a crevasse where no one , not even a dog would go!
@ShaunsThirdEye
@ShaunsThirdEye 10 ай бұрын
Hartonas and Vikili were not the most experienced in the world! That is a Huge stretch! They had “some” experience but not enough. They went up in bad weather which any relatively experienced person knows is a bad idea, they didn’t have a tent and had to make it all the way to Muir in order to have shelter! I helped search for them for 8 days! And! They went up in the worst weather month on Mt Rainier. They got caught in bad weather and had to dig in, that’s why they were never found because they likely dug a big snow cave for shelter, then the weather turned really bad and they were buried alive!
@chuteboxe39
@chuteboxe39 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for the info! As a fan of Dave, this is where some of his research just falls far short. Some of the cases he presents, on paper are mysterious, but upon closer inspection could be explained. Some, though, do defy any rational explanation. At the very least his books do raise awareness of these cases, and his yt channel often promotes the idea of responsible outdoorsmanship.
@nunliski
@nunliski 9 ай бұрын
Shhh. You walked into a circlejerk and are killing the vibe. Missing 411 is for people who want to blame disappearances on bigfoot, aliens, and the govt.
@cynthial841
@cynthial841 9 ай бұрын
Have any of these missing people carried a tracking device on them? Like the Garmin device? Or are all these people untraceable?
@ShaunsThirdEye
@ShaunsThirdEye 9 ай бұрын
@@cynthial841 I don’t think these two guys had that technology with them. They may of had a gps with them but that only allows the people to find their way, not others to find them
@ericharman4064
@ericharman4064 10 ай бұрын
They talk about there being these clusters, but I wonder: these are some really popular areas. Are there more people going missing here just because that's where people go?
@charwest5892
@charwest5892 9 ай бұрын
you'd think it could be that simple, but the ratio is still much higher in the cluster zones. and these cases fir specific criteria that render them "unexplainable". So its not just the area it happens in but the nature of the even and the circumstances surrounding the search.
@zukgod
@zukgod 9 ай бұрын
Washington has some very unforgiving terrain, and if you don't know what you're doing it'll kill you fast.
@FancyForestPerson
@FancyForestPerson 9 ай бұрын
It’s because there’s a cougar in the area who’s learned humans are very easy meal.
@Ja50nkAt
@Ja50nkAt 9 ай бұрын
I've been solo hiking and climbing in the Olympics and all over the Cascades along with other ranges in the lower 48's like the Sierras for about 13 years and have never had a mishap. Ultra awareness of your location with a GPS or a paper topographical map is key, along with food, clothing, emergency blanket. Avoid cold wet weather unless very prepared and know your physical limits.
@rebeccaleegabbard
@rebeccaleegabbard 9 ай бұрын
I solo hike also. I’m very aware, only do decently traveled hikes & easy to moderate hikes. I would never hike if I waited for someone else
@hondagreg1678
@hondagreg1678 9 ай бұрын
PPPPP = Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance
@BrianDoherty-e8s
@BrianDoherty-e8s 10 ай бұрын
An urbanized population interfacing with the wilderness it is surprising more people don't go missing. The two "experienced" guys gone from Mt. Rainier were not Daniel Boone types. They were modern urban people with experience and gear probably taking chances. No need for Twilight Zone music here, such cases are what you would expect. And searches done "shoulder to shoulder" do not happen in rough wilderness so such areas are not really searched. More likely searchers walk trails and roads, look over embankment, make noise, fly over the area, and the clincher you are in good hands; obese "searchers" ride quads down dirt roads. These cases are not mysterious at all.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see someone using common sense.
@mssmssmssmss
@mssmssmssmss 10 ай бұрын
When I lived in the area, I got the impression that many people thought you could just hike up Mt. Rainier. Maybe it was because the whole park is so pretty and easy to get to from cities, with maintained roads, picnick areas, etc.
@timewa851
@timewa851 10 ай бұрын
there are more than a few airplane crashes still hiding on Rainier. So a body would be way harder to locate than aircraft. Too much area, too dangerous to go looking.
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
​@@mssmssmssmssMaybe because you CAN just hike up Mt. St. Helens! I've been up there twice, to the crater dome! But, St. Helens is different that Rainier for sure!
@LilyGazou
@LilyGazou 10 ай бұрын
When I was on my way up Rainuer, I passed people who had strolled up a half hour from the lodge- wearing dress shoes and Sunday best. In the snow. Not prepared for a cloud to roll in.
@RK-ti2qq
@RK-ti2qq 9 ай бұрын
It is ludicrous how easy it is to get lost in the woods.
@Livetoeat171
@Livetoeat171 9 ай бұрын
It's not hard to just stay on the trails.
@Mahiro801
@Mahiro801 8 ай бұрын
Especially in Washington State
@russheins6458
@russheins6458 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading an article in the Seattle Times ( YEARS AGO) and it talked about all the people who have simply vanished there. Some of the stories were absolutely fascinating , one guy Stopped at the Longmire Ranger station parking lot on a Spring/ Summer day to go bird watching and was never seen again. I’m sure he somehow wondered off the trail and got lost , 🤷‍♂️ The guys walking ( basically) up to Muir , in the hottest part of summer only when you get within site of it is there snow. They must’ve tried there hike at a different time to be seriously dangerous , I didn’t see any crevasses in that area at all. That story is definitely a strange one.
@TCBBB22
@TCBBB22 9 ай бұрын
I used to hike alone in the middle of the night here in western washington all the time when I was younger cuz I liked to enjoy the sunrise at high peaks. Believe me when I say that even if you go out there into the woods and mountains alone, you are truly never alone. You will sense that you are being watched by something.
@softsofasoftsofa
@softsofasoftsofa 10 ай бұрын
Governor Inslee should lead the state legislators into the wilderness in a search for these missing persons.
@josh3326
@josh3326 10 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha WE CAN ONLY HOPE!!!!! 🤣😂
@kristinbond7506
@kristinbond7506 9 ай бұрын
I bet the expedition could be crowd funded very very quickly. That man is very hated
@jefffinkbonner9551
@jefffinkbonner9551 9 ай бұрын
How generous of them to give themselves back to nature!
@elisarayl1558
@elisarayl1558 9 ай бұрын
Inslee is too stupid and self-centered to care.
@cooter1352
@cooter1352 9 ай бұрын
It'd be nice if inslee would go in the woods and not come back
@jamesmurray8558
@jamesmurray8558 9 ай бұрын
I was stationed at the North Cascade National Park before Mt.St.Helens.
@lonpearson2134
@lonpearson2134 8 ай бұрын
The areas mentioned here are vast in size and many areas are thick with undergrowth. Visibility is often just a few yards and only an accomplished outdoorsman should attempt a trek through such conditions. Without constant compass readings and a good estimate of speed and distance traveled, it’s a risky move to go into the wilderness areas of Washington state. Many years ago I rescued a fella about twenty five miles north of Camas Washington in thick underbrush carrying a fishing pole and totally lost. He was only 30 yards or so from the road yelling help, but unknowingly paralleling the road. I faintly heard his yelling as I was driving my old ford down the gravel road and stopped and honked the horn. His voice picked up and it was clear he was frantic. I yelled back to him and he finally appeared, waving his fishing pole in the air and mighty glad to find someone. For a few years, I was in the Silver Star search and rescue group and they used CB radios to coordinate their searches for lost individuals.
@91F2Z
@91F2Z 9 ай бұрын
Way back out of high school I worked at Ranier. Despite many trips from the lodge up to Camp Muir, on one ocassion I wandered off onto the Nisqually glacier, and only realized my mistake when I came upon a large crevass. If I had fallen into it, I would be one of the mystery missing. Nothing mysterious about people getting lost in the fog or dark on the trip to or from Muir - lots of rescues on that stretch.
@kayamclaren6727
@kayamclaren6727 9 ай бұрын
I love this series! Thank you, Dan! Fun to see the U.S. through your eyes.
@vickypatout5361
@vickypatout5361 9 ай бұрын
Yay David Paulides! He's been researching & reporting on these missing persons cases many years & I'm a fan & subscriber of his KZbin channel for years. Great man doing important work!
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
More like he has been scamming a lot of people. He has brought nothing to the missing person genre, cept his 'fraudulent' grift.
@MySilverSprings
@MySilverSprings 9 ай бұрын
He's not talking about the possibility that many of these cluster areas disappearances may be related to sex traffickers. Other searchers have talked about this. It's just one more reason why you should never hike alone. Also a well written news article several years back determined that many of the missing cases are not reported soon enough which means valuable time was lost in which victims could have been found. And that the park services aren't always set up to be prepared for missing people searches and so getting dogs, organized law enforcement and volunteers to go out to look for those that are lost can also take additional time. There was a tracker noted in that article that was able to go out and find at least a couple of the victims bodies. They were actually in the area where they first went missing. But because of thick brush or the landscape the original search party didn't find them. Basically there's lots of issues when it comes to missing persons in a park and there needs to be a better system put in place when someone goes missing.
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 9 ай бұрын
I live 3 miles from Olympic National Park. For 30 years I hiked & backpacked all over California. But I never trek alone up here. Even wearing my 1911 and equipped with top notch survival gear, I just get an eerie feeling that ruins the whole point of getting out there
@cynthial841
@cynthial841 9 ай бұрын
When my daughter and I first moved to Portland, Oregon, there was a young girl who went missing hiking up in the Gorge. Her mom was coming in the next day to go hiking with her. Sadly, she had fallen off a trail and broken her neck. Her body went under the foliage and could not be found by local cops. Luckily, her family had connections and/or mone, and they hired a team of professionals who located her within 24 hours. I think this happens often in the PNW. And the animals get to the remains, and that is that.
@chuckwoolery9005
@chuckwoolery9005 10 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever seen a dead deer carcus? Same reason you will never find a human body. Animals scavenger it within hours.
@aliormiston
@aliormiston 10 ай бұрын
True, but what about the shoes, clothing, cell phone or hiking gear.
@chinookvalley
@chinookvalley 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I have seen MANY deer, rabbit, bird, cow carcasses. It takes days, sometimes weeks for scavengers to get rid of the basics (skin, eyes, organs,...) but there is hair, and bones for months and years.
@chuckwoolery9005
@chuckwoolery9005 10 ай бұрын
@@chinookvalleyOK well I have lived in the back country of the Cascades for 25 years and never once seen any.
@FancyForestPerson
@FancyForestPerson 9 ай бұрын
I have found a freshly killed deer. And it was almost completely buried with just an antler sticking up. I pulled the head out of the ground. On my way back it was covered back up. Cougars. They’ll eat humans too.
@CharlesSilver-ew3ju
@CharlesSilver-ew3ju 10 ай бұрын
Mr. Paulides had been ahead of the times on this topic. He should be able to apply for a government grant to afford further investigations.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
No, he's just trying to copy other autho's on the missing person genre. His success is due to the internet and gulllible people. The government doesn't usually hand out grants for grifts either.
@tammybarrett7650
@tammybarrett7650 10 ай бұрын
Mountain lions ,quiet and quick 🇺🇸✔️
@xxxsandman
@xxxsandman 10 ай бұрын
you forgot about the sled and their belongings .
@ericharman4064
@ericharman4064 10 ай бұрын
Probably not the case on the Muir Snowfield, but maybe some of the other cases.
@ronaldyarush9907
@ronaldyarush9907 10 ай бұрын
Mountain lions don't clean up after themselves
@josh3326
@josh3326 10 ай бұрын
@@ronaldyarush9907 Umm yes they do. I was hiking once and one crossed the trail we were on carrying bleach, broom, bag, and duct tape. He then said, "Nothing to see here. Happy hiking." Yes, cats can talk.
@lenac2284
@lenac2284 10 ай бұрын
Many have said they are getting pulled into the D.U.M.B.s for adrenochrome.
@lh3540
@lh3540 10 ай бұрын
They're not finding these old cases. I had a friend 'take a long walk into the woods on purpose' if you get what I'm saying. They were found eventually, but the bone field was spread out over the size of a football field. Once scavengers get to work they can destroy evidence in a matter of weeks.
@eagledove9
@eagledove9 9 ай бұрын
Another thing that I enjoyed recently was listening to an audiobook about The Bermuda Triangle. I forget the exact name of the book. They had ships that survived this phenomenon, where some kind of fog enveloped the entire ship, including some kind of fizz or something that made the water look white. When they got inside this fog, they lost track of time, and if it was an airplane, they might fly hundreds of miles in a short time in a way that wasn't possible. They would see the ship's magnetic compass spinning around. It was so common to see the magnetic compasses behaving strangely that people who sail in the Bermuda Triangle take it for granted almost as a joke, like 'Ha ha, the compass is going crazy again,' and then they go on with life, if nothing else happens.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
You do know, there is regular traffic, air and water, that goes right through the 'triangle' this very day, right?
@eagledove9
@eagledove9 9 ай бұрын
​@@deerichardz Yeah? People still go there. Things don't happen to EVERY ship or plane that goes through there. The phenomena are intermittent and unpredictable.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
@@eagledove9 Nothiing happens due to any 'phenomena'. Otherwise it would be in the news, and airlines would be getting sued SMH Think before you slap a comment down will ya.
@eagledove9
@eagledove9 9 ай бұрын
​@@deerichardz Wow, I'd better CAREFULLY CONSIDER my not-at-all-insulting-to-anybody comment, because somebody somewhere might take it personally and get horribly offended at my mentioning of the Bermuda Triangle! Gotta think before I comment! The trolls are out today. You always know you're talking about the truth whenever the disinformation trolls start having their screaming meltdowns about how evil you are for talking about the truth.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
@@eagledove9 Do whatever you wanna do. KZbin is an open social media platform. You make a comment, you 'just' might get a reply, imagine that SMH
@maryjanegreen7601
@maryjanegreen7601 10 ай бұрын
Makes me scared to hike alone, but I'm new to this area and don't have anyone to go with, not even a dog.
@lottielane2486
@lottielane2486 10 ай бұрын
Let local police angers know in advance. Then ,if anything happens.....
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
Look for a hiking club , meet others to hike with!
@BridgetHillan
@BridgetHillan 10 ай бұрын
So don't go.
@k8eekatt
@k8eekatt 9 ай бұрын
The Sierra club organizes wonderful hikes in many areas.
@peaches1206
@peaches1206 9 ай бұрын
The Sierra Club here has leaders who like to hike too fast and leave slower ones behind. Not cool.
@bornagain9192
@bornagain9192 10 ай бұрын
I've hiked all over Mnt. Rainer ,Olympics ,from the 60s on ,I was in search and rescue, I'd go on campouts alone a few times around M.R.N.P. JESUS WAS ALWAYS WITH ME , However I know two people that say they were abducted up near Rainer by aliens !
@_LeeroyJenkins
@_LeeroyJenkins 10 ай бұрын
You forgot to out illegal before aliens
@michaelblake1023
@michaelblake1023 10 ай бұрын
jesus lol seek therapy
@juliepeterson6639
@juliepeterson6639 10 ай бұрын
Every one... Listen to this respected fellow. He knows what’s going on- and doesn’t brag about it. Smart and real.
@justelleslife507
@justelleslife507 9 ай бұрын
Sorry, there's no such things as he says there is, he's a very nice man and truly believes in what he says is happening, it's simply human errors or hidden, old holes, you can take one step wrong and end up under a large icy crevice, where you'll never be found, most hikers don't follow the rules and that's how they really disappear.
@chowe9
@chowe9 10 ай бұрын
Does missing 411 keep their records updated when someone that is reported as missing is found?
@LightinDarkest
@LightinDarkest 9 ай бұрын
YESSS
@LightinDarkest
@LightinDarkest 9 ай бұрын
Not the books , but he covers any and everything new on CanAm missing project, his youtube channel
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
No. He does not correct himself. He could write ten books on corrections alone. The y are very inaccurate and misleading.
@ShaneB-ev1ko
@ShaneB-ev1ko 10 ай бұрын
No one wants to believe it could be super natural but it is.
@herchelleonwood7463
@herchelleonwood7463 10 ай бұрын
ghosts, aliens , Bigfoot or vampires ? are you off your Thorazine ?
@chuteboxe39
@chuteboxe39 9 ай бұрын
Great quote but don't remember who - Not only is the universe stranger than we suppose, but it's far stranger than we CAN suppose. Ppl like to think that with modern science we got it all figured out. Ask any specialists on the forefront of cutting edge research on any particular area of the sciences. We really, really don't.
@samanthaweston2957
@samanthaweston2957 9 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s too much Why Files but my first thought was “Big Foot, Aliens, Boom!”
@IntraVortex
@IntraVortex 10 ай бұрын
This gentleman must have his facts wrong. In the first story, he states that "the parents were behind some trees 150 yards away." Now, I don't care where you are but if you're out in public and your young children are 150 yards away from you then YOU ARE TOO FAR AWAY.
@ricosuave-ej5cs
@ricosuave-ej5cs 10 ай бұрын
They said if you are walking in the deep woods for more than 10 minutes, you have already been seen by a mountain lion
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
Gulp!
@juliemead7366
@juliemead7366 9 ай бұрын
My dog and I were walking in a city park, there was a guy, and my dog pulled me out of there. I truly believe he saved my life. He's an LGD, and the best dog ever. 💖🐾
@peatmoss4415
@peatmoss4415 9 ай бұрын
He's a hack. People get lost and die , simple. No mystery unless you want to sell something over someone's tragedy.
@OutInTheBuyah
@OutInTheBuyah 10 ай бұрын
Yay! Dave Paulides goes mainstream, FINALLY!!!! WAY TO GO, DAVE. You deserve this, and so do all the missing... God bless you.
@josh3326
@josh3326 10 ай бұрын
He's been mainstream
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 10 ай бұрын
Are you a 'villager'?
@Shadoweknows76
@Shadoweknows76 10 ай бұрын
You don't know this man at all. My family and children were threatened by people connected to his page. Even used my dead grandson as a reference to what was going to happen to my kids and loved ones. The only thing I did was try to spread the truth about Sasquatch. This man also invited me to his personal page directly after the threat about me winding up on the missing 411 list, instead of fixing the threats they reminded me of the threat I received 7 years ago against my own children. For trying to spread truth about the government. He's probably a Mason and has handlers. If you look closely at his eyes in pictures on the internet, he's a Nephilim. Or eljo his eyes aren't right. He's evil and I don't believe his son offed himself either.
@lottielane2486
@lottielane2486 10 ай бұрын
​@@Shadoweknows76I THINK IF they wanted to keep a lid on things, David Paulides wouldn't have been allowed to do this for so long. He's shining a torchlight on what otherwise would hardly be news.
@jackie-k
@jackie-k 10 ай бұрын
I hiked camp Muir, would have to look at when! OMG!
@y_i_fly6256
@y_i_fly6256 9 ай бұрын
Anyone just driving through a forested area can literally see how easy it is for someone to disappear from sight just from the road. It’s not difficult to get lost even if you’re an experienced hiker.
@TheLeh1964
@TheLeh1964 9 ай бұрын
I heard about Mt Rainier in the late 90s (ET/Mt Shasta).
@jeanah685
@jeanah685 9 ай бұрын
When walking in the wilderness 1. Don't hike alone. 2. Stay on the trail. 3. If you hear something in the woods. No you didn't. 4. If you see something in the woods. No you didn't. 5. If you hear someone call your name. No they didn't. 6. If a river rock is in your path turn and walk back. 7. If an egg is in your path turn and run back to your car and leave the woods.
@evanlundgren3039
@evanlundgren3039 10 ай бұрын
Look up in the trees, no scent, i wonder if those sleds are now Sasquatch ManBlind porches 10 stories up a huge old thick tree in the canopy?
@motionsick
@motionsick 7 ай бұрын
Dave is an absolute legend.
@brianmclaughlin4419
@brianmclaughlin4419 10 ай бұрын
Those two areas are extremely rugged hiking. Not for beginners. Lots of optimistic people over-estimate their stamina, coordination, skills with map and compass.
@raecross8872
@raecross8872 10 ай бұрын
Vancouver Island many dissappearences
@shaggybreeks
@shaggybreeks 10 ай бұрын
A WWII bomber went missing in 1943 and was buried in snow until 2014 or so... If an airplane can disappear, I'd think a sled could, pretty easy.
@bc4198
@bc4198 10 ай бұрын
Did KOMO know what they were getting into here? I see they listed the author's website, but otherwise tiptoed around the conspiracy theories...
@lottielane2486
@lottielane2486 10 ай бұрын
I don't think they did !😮
@EngageYourFrontalLobe
@EngageYourFrontalLobe 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, I’ve tried to listen to David Paulide’s YT Channel and quickly lost interest. He may have good intentions, trying to help find people and writing about people who have gone missing or have been murdered, but he’s too opinionated (esp. re: politics) and readily shares his (biased) opinions. He also lacks critical thinking/reasoning skills in his assessments. As a former Police Officer, I would expect more a logical and reasoned approach. Sadly, he doesn’t seem to be mentally healthy and I hope he gets help if and when it’s needed.
@Pbav8tor
@Pbav8tor 9 ай бұрын
I've listened to Mr. Paulides 411 interviews on AM Coast to Coast.
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
Art Bell never bought into his '411'.
@Beginnerreadsthebible
@Beginnerreadsthebible 9 ай бұрын
I've hiked the Muir snowfield and up to Camp Muir. It's pretty wide open and straightforward, interesting that two experienced people could just *disappear* ...
@MrBeatenpath
@MrBeatenpath 10 ай бұрын
the lizard people got em
@danerickson1632
@danerickson1632 10 ай бұрын
When you go out of your safe zone, carry a firearm if want to live to my age 63
@deeznutz3958
@deeznutz3958 10 ай бұрын
Read his books… even the most armed and skilled are snatched up by what ever evil is out there preying on people not paying attention.
@adrielburned6924
@adrielburned6924 10 ай бұрын
​@@deeznutz3958the most armed and skilled have good situational awareness. If not, then they are armed and stupid, not armed and skilled.
@mycofairbanks3321
@mycofairbanks3321 10 ай бұрын
Guns won't work against shape shifting interdimensional extraterrestrials.
@sheilagadde5975
@sheilagadde5975 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for having David Paulides reply on this program.
@Robgnarly79
@Robgnarly79 10 ай бұрын
Stumble on a meth kitchen in the in the middle of no where that's how you go missing
@josh3326
@josh3326 10 ай бұрын
Someone stumbles in my mother in laws kitchen, then eats her food, they'll go missing too.
@kristinbond7506
@kristinbond7506 9 ай бұрын
True. Went on a college trip into Idaho and the people in charge made a HUGE DEAL about not wandering away from the group.
@dhadbaoui
@dhadbaoui 9 ай бұрын
Did they look up?
@sadesade9505
@sadesade9505 10 ай бұрын
I think I will just walk around my house🎉😂
@michah321
@michah321 10 ай бұрын
That's my strategy.
@jodybogdanovich4333
@jodybogdanovich4333 10 ай бұрын
Inside!!
@tigermoon44
@tigermoon44 9 ай бұрын
The two hosts didn't know what to do with David. They seemed a little uncomfortable with the subject matter. He's a great guy and if you aren't familiar with him and his books than then I highly suggest to check him out. Being informed of these disappearances can make a big difference in hiking safety and understanding your surroundings. And as he says, NEVER hike alone. At this point in time, it's just not a good idea.
@lifeofreilly9943
@lifeofreilly9943 9 ай бұрын
Those people were being ‘watched’ by someone. Creepy
@epicherbalism
@epicherbalism 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if that 3rd, unnamed man had an intuitive feeling and went back because if it. If so, it probably saved him.
@kurtispalmer8168
@kurtispalmer8168 9 ай бұрын
Something is out in these mountains, when you go to certain areas or its just a certain type of day you can feel something around or just in the air itself. Ive had very odd instances with and without people and pets. People of all types will tell you the same. One of the more odd things was seeing a part of my campsite get brighter at about 7:30pm in October about 10 miles outside of the Henry Jackson wilderness. Saw 1/4 of my campsite get bright like a BMW was driving up to us but we were the only people in the area for miles. Only had 2 other trucks pass 5 hours prior that day.
@dhadbaoui
@dhadbaoui 9 ай бұрын
A small child wakes up and immediately will go looking for a parent.
@Amm1ttai
@Amm1ttai 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the 'scream' they heard was a cougar. a small child would make enticing prey
@taradeveau5649
@taradeveau5649 10 ай бұрын
Have they ever tried ground penetrating radar on any case?
@slaphappy5252
@slaphappy5252 9 ай бұрын
We were staying in Sequim for a few days. Before we ever got there my wife was hell bent on doing a hike in the Olympic national forest which was weird to me because she isn’t an active person by any stretch of the imagination. Something in my gut/intuition was not agreeing with her on doing the hike. Nonetheless I didn’t agree to it nor did I disagree with it. It was myself, my wife, our 10 year old daughter, our 7 year old daughter, and 20 year old son. We drove far from where we were staying because my wife had a hike planned out. We drove really far up into the mountains of the Olympic national forest. I had a very off feeling the entire time before we left, along the way, and once we got there. In fact any time my wife brought up going on this hike I felt very uneasy. We finally got there and we all got out for our hike. I was carrying a .45 cal handgun and that was all we had. It was like everyone was completely oblivious and just in the clouds as far as awareness goes. I couldn’t shake it and as we walked further and further I recognized that I was sensing danger and dread. We walked for about ten minutes give or take before I made an executive decision and said “nope we’re leaving… sorry but I don’t feel right at all about this.” So we turned around and headed back towards our vehicle… we made it, all while my head was on a swivel and my senses were going wild. I started feeling MUCH BETTER as we started driving down the mountain to the road besides the fact that I noticed multiple signs of missing people who had mysteriously vanished up there. At least 3-4 different missing people and maybe even more… I didn’t stop to look but did notice different names and genders. I was like WTF?!! My wife says “oh I saw some of those on the way up.” I wondered why she never mention it and I wondered why she never felt uncomfortable about going out there. I know without a single doubt and I mean it no doubt at all, that something would’ve happened that day… I just don’t know what although I can easily speculate. I have my theories.
@slowbladepenetrates
@slowbladepenetrates 10 ай бұрын
History channel: "It was aliens."
@valeriefromoregon
@valeriefromoregon 9 ай бұрын
Anything that’s fear inducing shouldn’t be watched .. live your life and trust God.
@starchildisis
@starchildisis 9 ай бұрын
I rv’d in Washington for 8 months. There are some strange things that live in nature there. There is a lot of interact with you and your reality, but you can’t affect them the same way.
@ihavesomethingtosay6945
@ihavesomethingtosay6945 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like alien abduction to me. There is no tracks, scent trails, snagged clothing, etc when you go straight up.
@worldclassish
@worldclassish 9 ай бұрын
KOMO watcher for over 65 years. The elephant in the room is potentially extra terrestrial or even ultra terrestrial. Taking people is not far from cattle mutilation. All going on forever.
@DontTrustAnybody75
@DontTrustAnybody75 9 ай бұрын
Hey Dave, ive been following you for years now good to see him getting exposure...
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 9 ай бұрын
The more exposure he gets, the more exposed he will be. The guy ain't honest.
@WIDEawake419
@WIDEawake419 9 ай бұрын
Can we send our Politicians to THIS Washington???
@alphacharlietango969
@alphacharlietango969 10 ай бұрын
Alien abduction?
@EngageYourFrontalLobe
@EngageYourFrontalLobe 9 ай бұрын
😂
@cindyhesson9213
@cindyhesson9213 9 ай бұрын
The truth will come out. Bless this man for seeking answers 🙏 Notice how they never ask how many are actually missing????
@hoboonwheels9289
@hoboonwheels9289 9 ай бұрын
Esoteric Atlanta has good summaries of disappearances.
@mauryabroadsword6992
@mauryabroadsword6992 9 ай бұрын
My husband and I were financial backers for David Paulides first movie, Missing 411.
@jeanetteannseaman
@jeanetteannseaman 9 ай бұрын
Unless those three hiker went into a crevasse? Just thought id throw that out there to see what ya'll thought...❤
@cooter1352
@cooter1352 9 ай бұрын
Always carry a firearm capable of taking down the biggest game predators and watch your back for sasquatch, cryptids,and portals. The world is a strange place and things do go bump in the night.
@isabellavalencia8026
@isabellavalencia8026 9 ай бұрын
Mount Rainier is part of the Cascades not the Olympics
@davidolson4126
@davidolson4126 9 ай бұрын
They were talking about both the Olympics and Mt Rainier. Not that Mt Rainier is in the Olympics
@isabellavalencia8026
@isabellavalencia8026 9 ай бұрын
@@davidolson4126 in the very beginning he said they were talking about my rainier in olympic national park.....i believe he misspoke
@vf12497439
@vf12497439 9 ай бұрын
Polygraphs are not accepted as evidence in court for a reason…. And there’s an obvious answer, always suspect the last person of contact
@stephannielewis8253
@stephannielewis8253 9 ай бұрын
Mt. Rainer is not in the Olympic Forest. Should have said "and".
@Meattemple
@Meattemple 10 ай бұрын
Great books that will blow your mind!
@deerichardz
@deerichardz 10 ай бұрын
I've read 'almost' two of them. Very poorly written.
@A-Long-Walk-Off-A-Short-Pier
@A-Long-Walk-Off-A-Short-Pier 9 ай бұрын
The female anchor is the most unprofessional anchor I've ever seen on a Seattle news station! Her face screams boredom with those slow mechanical blinks while listening to David talk about the boy who went missing in the 70's. I've lived here my entire life and they have always been held to a higher standard, which you don't tend to notice until it drops.
@ted.angell7609
@ted.angell7609 7 ай бұрын
I can see why police were suspicious of Jimmy’s parents. Polygraphs are far from reliable, and their story doesn’t sound believable at all.
@Elizabeth-vw1vb
@Elizabeth-vw1vb 9 ай бұрын
Bigfoot needs a new friend.
@royalspin
@royalspin 9 ай бұрын
Dave's a good man and a serious investigator.I highly recommend anything he's done .
@bque9444
@bque9444 10 ай бұрын
Wish he would have said what ages those missing men were.
@saskialolita
@saskialolita 10 ай бұрын
?
@saskialolita
@saskialolita 10 ай бұрын
But he did tho…? 🤨 40 and 48
@orange3too
@orange3too 9 ай бұрын
Thank you David for saving many in your efforts.
@teamcougars
@teamcougars 9 ай бұрын
I think the vast, dense woods in Washington are unfortunately a easy place to hide bodies and people 😢 my husband grew up on Whidbey Island so we have been there many times visiting his family and friends 😮
@teacherguy5084
@teacherguy5084 10 ай бұрын
Crevasses are big and deep, and the snow falls fast sometimes. I think this guy is trying to sell books.
@uradragon
@uradragon 10 ай бұрын
There's puma's in the crevasses..
@josh3326
@josh3326 10 ай бұрын
Joe Biden's Bull $hit is also really deep, so what are you trying to say??
@wildone106
@wildone106 10 ай бұрын
Go watch his documentary before making uninformed comments
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
David Paulidas was oneof the first people to highlight just how many people have come up missing with zero trace in many of our US National parks and forests! Too many to be just animal attacks where clothing would be found or something! There have been many odd occurrences... so he deserves to earn respect and money for his continued efforts! If you were someone with a family member missing you might have more respect!
@teacherguy5084
@teacherguy5084 9 ай бұрын
If he's trying to prove the existence of Bigfoot/Sasquatch, genetic evidence, even via poop, ought to be available and already found and analyzed.@@wildone106
@MichaelM-q2q
@MichaelM-q2q 10 ай бұрын
Seattle is a sanctuary city and the world is here to eat your lunch and wear your boots. Not to be your friends.
@l.plzsavethebeez485
@l.plzsavethebeez485 10 ай бұрын
Ruination of a once beautiful Metropolis! Portland too!
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 9 ай бұрын
National Parks tend to be happy hunting grounds for goblins, especially before the law changed, when the Parkies wouldn’t let you go armed. Now, the laws of the State apply. I lived in the Recreation Area inside North Cascades National Park. Our resident Deputy told his wife NEVER set foot on a Park trail without a gun.
@burmy1552
@burmy1552 9 ай бұрын
Well Washington has alotta serial killers too.
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