So I need to use powders to use the engraver. But I need to use shards to upgrade the engraver. But I also need to use shards to get powders. Glad I started the engraver late so I haven’t wasted too much time on it.
@Jamezez3 күн бұрын
They said the reason they changed it was to allow people to test different engravings more, so I think they should add both the perma boost and the 12 hour ones
@laurenbo9122 сағат бұрын
get engraving for 3 hours for 1 powder, get +100 average per research; get room for a power chance statue to get more shards hence a level 11 sculptor, allow in and out with statue storage and you'll make my day once again dear zmot
@Capt.Effroi3 күн бұрын
In my opinion a real best fix would be to have 2 engravings in the same time (2/2 in place of 1/1 now) with the next update ! Passe une très belle journée Anon ! 👍❤👍
@hoodace19763 күн бұрын
I’m just saving the shards now… won’t be using Engraver til it’s sorted out😢 Already have max statues so don’t need to worry about them… On my maxed acct Lvl81 I’ll get research tokens on 2/4 and only used them to max armour/triage …what a waste…😮 On my second acct just turned Lvl71 I just pumped my shards in regardless… silly meme I’ll get Boom pass when I like the skins otherwise can’t justify the £… Thanks for all your hard work for us🎉
@maximix54473 күн бұрын
The coin idea is nice. But I feel like the chance of a natural upgrade is really almost 0 past a certain level. My armor is level 18, and the last 3 levels were all upgraded using coins. So I haven't gotten any upgrades past level 15 in like 15-20 armor rolls. So you might have to use them to upgrade the engravings at some point, which means they are not just leftover "waste" from the engraver, which means that you kind of have to include the price of the coins in the cost. So even if you only research 2 engravings at a time, the cost of 2 coins is basically equivalent to 2 powder.
@maximix54473 күн бұрын
I think the simplest solution is just to increase the time. So maybe make it 2 coins for a week or 5 days or whatever. I feel like that would make it more affordable while not making it just a completely free boost.
@Lando_Calzonian_MK83 күн бұрын
One of the worst things about the engraver nerf is the fact that when you get progress through the levels it only gives you like +50 at a time now. It used to give you like +250, it was so much easier to level up engravings before. Now it’s going to take SO much longer to get a max level Sabotage engraving for crab.
@anr15933 күн бұрын
I used leech, I haven't boosted it since. Thanks zmot
@petermire81173 күн бұрын
Maybe raw crystals could be an option to activate engravings.
@shellshockakagregmason21683 күн бұрын
Zed, your logic is fantastic! I just hate the fact that they give us something new and shiny and free, and then they nerf it and find a way to take away the free aspect. It's like a drug dealer that gives you a free taste then charges you up the wazoo. Btw, we already pay with shards to upgrade an engraving and now they hit you with a new charge. Not cool in my opinion.
@jony53023 күн бұрын
Thanks again for the info Zmot, hopefully SC listens to your common sense.
@RicJoans-qo3ix3 күн бұрын
My entire task force has stopped using the engraver - should have known it was too good to last
@RichardSwartzmeyer2 күн бұрын
My fix would be 1 cost to activate the engraver permanently and then since they say they want people to experiment make it 2 powder to switch between engravings. Also they should get rid of everything that doesn't have anything to do with upgrading the engravings The level and the progress bar and for all I know the quality. It's upsetting they nerfed but didn't get rid of confusion
@delboy59533 күн бұрын
Hey zmot thanks for the videos….did you know you can pick either a token or an upgrade on the engraver? When it slows down press the screen again and you can stop it on what you want to get rather than wait till it stops.
@zmot3 күн бұрын
can't pick. you just speed up the result that was already pre-determined.
@delboy59533 күн бұрын
@ no you can m8 open 1 at a time and when it’s slowing down press the screen again and it stops on the token or boost
@delboy59533 күн бұрын
Which ever you want I can send video but easy to do just wait till it slows and press on what you want but has to be opened 1 at a time…skully did a video on it as well
@zmot3 күн бұрын
100% not accurate. The outcome is predetermined.
@kamran3a3 күн бұрын
After this changed I didnot use the engraver anymore.
@iSys313 күн бұрын
Yes you right Supercell only follows the KPIs... That's why they nerfed Leech, because it was more used than the other ones (that's what they said on the discord) not because it was "stronger". But I'm glad, I've still never seen anybody raid me with an active engraving since the 12h after the update. Meaning nobody activated it, out of like 15 players at 1700+ VP, I hope it'll stay that way so SC will notice that we don't want to use it
@sketchsketch83283 күн бұрын
I love your idea for the tokens, since it's 150 for me to use them😅
@dscent453 күн бұрын
i used leech post nerf once. obviously its about half as good now. probably better off using adrenaline if needed
@flashmore33 күн бұрын
I want my shards back this is crap, greedy company!
@Variablecheeseless3 күн бұрын
I dislike the 12 hour timer thing… even though I doubt I’ll spend 12 hours doing each crab so maybe max 4 powder and I’ll never use powder for anything else besides crabs
@jumongmongju8263 күн бұрын
nerf the engravings but bring back the unlimited use
@scud32383 күн бұрын
The biggest problem with the engraver is that we first had it for just 7pp forever, peeps are not going to forget that, yes for high end op players it was disappointing to say the least, but there are many ways players play the game and each engraver will have something for them but now at a cost. The only players this won’t affect are WS combatants and judging by the amount of y tubers this is now the main attraction to the game.
@darioi673 күн бұрын
I know you may have already talked about this, but if you use 'improve', does it improve the ability permanently or just for a small time ?
@zmot3 күн бұрын
Permanently but you should save the tokens for when it’s 100+ to improve
@darioi673 күн бұрын
@zmot agree, thanks
@howyfoundersnatch3 күн бұрын
I was thinking tokens would be a great way to boost the engraver. Also, it should be a 24 hr boost. I have no idea what the cost should be though. Two tokens for a day? It gives you a reason to upgrade the engraver, while having to manage your token usage.
@whosiewunkle19933 күн бұрын
Having options is always better, IMHO. But even one Research Token costs at least 5 shards (and there's no guarantee you get one). And as has been said you need those tokens to upgrade with, so they aren't completely open for use. Better to have the option of spending tokens or powder. But honestly the way it was with 7 powder or 3 powder and a twelve hour wait should be reinstated. To give that and then take it away... make me want to #@$% ^*&##. When will they learn. Never over deliver... under deliver then add more later. It makes for happier campers. 😸😃
@yomaster99243 күн бұрын
I think I want all the shards I wasted on improving the Armor. So disappointed that they didn’t return all shards. It’s bad enough they downgraded but with nothing to offset the change they basically stole from us. 😢
@phesman83263 күн бұрын
I am still working on engravings and will keep using it. Its a work in progress so why just have a damn baby fit and not use it. I mean come on people. I do agree with being able to use the tokens to boost instead of powder as an option though.
@GermanBoomBeach3 күн бұрын
The engravings are good for mega Crab and high level operation attacks. I clear my map with and without engraving in x3 speed with no attantion at all. So why should I use an engraving to kill other players when its still super easy without one. I will still use the researche of the angraver on all 4 slot. Just because where else should I ever spend my 30.000+shards. Its just 2 Boosts to aktivate for 12 hours. I think its still a good deal. 2 offensiv statues for 3 hours is the same price and less useful. And where else would you spend all your powder.
@saravthang3 күн бұрын
A single token is 5 shards, which is still 80% of one PP. Just indirect way of spending PP.
@zmot3 күн бұрын
5 shards is a lot cheaper than 2 powder.
@saravthang3 күн бұрын
@zmot true, anything less should be good
@RyanJ.ZuvichBBSS3.03 күн бұрын
👍😎💪
@annbridgeman85603 күн бұрын
Ive already spent a ton of resources on the stupid Engraver well except for actual cash money but I've been spending $40.00 U.S. on I. T., (4 accounts); but next month that may change & I have 1 Clash of Clans Account that i sunk close to $40.00 over Christmas last time too!
@claytonandrews2513 күн бұрын
I’m the only one who used engraver today in ops in my task force mostly because I face 9 boosted ice so a 31% reduction is huge . Ps 1150 powder makes it feasible
@saravthang3 күн бұрын
@@claytonandrews251 I have 1900 PP and I don't want to waste PP on engraver 😭
@Capt.Effroi3 күн бұрын
I think the best fix should be to remove definitively this crap of the game ! Too many tokens lost by their engraver nerf ! Bonne fin de journée Anon ! 👍👍👍
@KaraMurat643 күн бұрын
O jetonlar olmadan gravüre kalite aldırman imkansız daha önce ne kadar (on binlerce) malzeme harcadığımı yazmıştım 🙂 Bu tavsiyen insanları daha da zora sokacak ve ellerinde hiç birşey kalmayana kadar onu geliştirmek için uğraşacaklar. Onu eski haline döndürmedikleri sürece tamamen çöp oldu kimseye buna malzeme harcamasını tavsiye etmiyorum. Size harcatıp elinizden alacaklar. Yani toz yerine jetonla 12 saat güçlendirme tavsiyen berbat kardeşim, totalde daha fazla tozun buhar olacak.
@janetmagee71973 күн бұрын
Too livid to even play anymore. I have 5 accounts that were permanently boosted. GONE! Had enough of this greedy company.
@oakleywatts66843 күн бұрын
Well that’s just sad, give the company a chance to respond to the community and adjust things. You are disappointing
@Name_00_03 күн бұрын
@@oakleywatts6684 Brainless Developers Shouldnt have done this update in the first place
@RicJoans-qo3ix3 күн бұрын
@@oakleywatts6684 no, supercell and it's endless greed are the disappointment but you keep kissing their hindquarters
@Frost-rx4ch3 күн бұрын
I think they should change it so it costs 1 powder to boost for a week. I disliked the old system as well because it discouraged people from changing engravings and trying out new things.
@Azd1r3 күн бұрын
sadly i still use engraver, as i play lb tfs. Assuming sc has stats for these they will see a minority of players using it - small minority of op players, crabbers, and the tiny population of unfrozen VP LB pushers. Also if fh is so boring, why not just learn dx? Even with sabotage engraving, especially with it fixed, dx is a lot easier. I do agree ofc that the skill gap between fh and dx is big. However there are many easy to access resources for learning dx
@jalaluddenjalal3 күн бұрын
Also I'm agree to fix engraver
@madmax-xm3fx3 күн бұрын
the first one who posted the armor or just the engraver technique destroyed it all.. i know they were the best but they changed everything..now its disappointing. the fun is gone
@zmot3 күн бұрын
let's be honest it was obvious and every player in a task force knew of it within days of the engraver's release.
@jumba85253 күн бұрын
We spent a lot of materials but it all went to waste because of Supercell's shitty work
@clumpbb7913 күн бұрын
I feel like if they reverse the nerf but keep the change in powder cost (or even increase the cost) then it’s pretty balanced. Just like boosting your statues, you make a strategic choice based on the amount of resources you have available.
@maximix54473 күн бұрын
Idk. With armor being this op, it would be pretty much required for all op players in any semi serious tf to always have armor active just because you have such a big disadvantage if you dont boost it. So all it means is you have to spend 14 instead of 12 pp every day to stay competitive. It's already annoying having to clear my map almost every day to maintain my powder with just statue boosts.
@clumpbb7913 күн бұрын
@ I definitely see what you’re saying, and honestly that’s my point illustrated. It’s a great boost, but it costs something worthwhile rather than always being active (just like the statues). You have to make a strategic choice.
@2020heinsite3 күн бұрын
Interesting & totally justifies my decision to ignore installing the engraver completely. Wasn't interested when it came out. Still don't care. My level 80 will be fine.
@mechulkisi5713 күн бұрын
they should must fix it thats it.I have no interresting for engraver anymore.
@pohlcat69963 күн бұрын
Nerfing the Engraver is just silly, IMO. If it’s kept out of Warships, no harm, no foul. Stupid Op take-downs don’t matter, even in pvp play. Maybe make a 12-hour boost like the stupid Mystical Monument in which we have 4 options to upgrade. Even, give a re-roll option. Otherwise, just get rid of the damn thing. Levels, Quality Increase, tokens. It’s jazz hands, 3-card Monty, performance theater of innovation. Apologies. Just feel like this is a net negative headache now and not worth the hassle.
@dmandman42883 күн бұрын
👍🙏❤️💛💚
@Sri80263 күн бұрын
After Update My Leech 21% on Engraver reduced to 13% Leech ...WTF is this 🤡🤕🤔🤷🤥🙄🤔😐🤓😡😡😡😡
@valdas4203 күн бұрын
engraver??? whats that ? must be dead and dead is dead so . nothing there to fix
@donnaavery73963 күн бұрын
Not happy at all with this update. Just about done with this game