Unfathomable - How to Play - Review - Fantasy Flight Games - BoardgameNinja (English - Nederlands)

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[@MrBernaar]

Thanks for this. Great overview of this new implementation of BSG! Since BSG is one of my favourite games and the best hidden traitor game I know I am looking forward to give this one a try!

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[@BoardgameNinjas]

It's always in the right amount of fluff...

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[@mirtles9720]

Ad a huge BSG fan, I can't wait to play this. Thank you for the clear and concise video!

[@Tigerheart678]

Awesome How to Play and Review. Thank you!

[@shonuffmofo997]

That was the MOST comprehensive review/overview I have seen of a game in a long time. Great job! I am intrigued to play and see how items work. I also like the fact that all players can defend against the monsters and that you can outrun them if you move fast enough. Thanks for the vid!

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Items are very nice, but often you don't have enough time to get any. Outrun is a big word. It's a ship and you can't get off ;-). Please try it, it is a nice game. Much more chaotic than Galactica and that means that you have to think on your feet. Stuff of great stories

[@Outrun37]

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[@boazdror]

Great review and rules run-through! Dankje!

[@guscontreras3646]

Great explanation and video editing highlighting the game mechanics! Looking forward to give it a try. Thanks!

[@BoardgameNinjas]

I hope you will enjoy it. For me one of the best hidden traitor games around!

[@guscontreras3646]

It was pretty fun indeed! It was a 6-player group with 2 traitors. One of them was able to look at my human/hybrid cards using a specific action card and told everybody I was a hybrid; I almost got lynched! The other was very sneaky and nobody knew who it was until the game ended. Humans won, but it was pretty close as fuel levels were at 1 at one point. Thanks again for your review! Kudos from a fellow subscriber.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

@@guscontreras3646 That sounds like an evening well spend. I love it when the game is so tight and everybody has to do their uttermost best to swing it one way or the other.

[@livithas5180]

Great (and quick!) overview of the game! Super excited to play this!

[@k00m1kk0]

Impressive tutorial. Logical walkthrough of the rules and nicely edited together. We are now ready for our first session!

[@Daley63]

There it is again! Is backstabbery a word?? 😀 Don't care, I like it!! Bought the game a couple of months ago, haven't the chance to learn it yet. You've inspired me with your quick explanation of the rules. Great job! Thanks!!

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Please play it with a group where backstabberry and skullduggery is no problem!

[@Daley63]

😂 Will do! Thanks!

[@deniseklerx6994]

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[@tommykay7427]

Excellent summary! Thank you!

[@SauriolEric]

Great how to play video. Very concise, I love it!

[@Tackleberry666]

It's a unique game. Hard to bring to the table. But when the group is right, it's an amazing evening.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Did you already have a chance to play the Abyss (expansion) yet? Hope to get it on the table next weekend!

[@Deadomen123]

Thanks for the review! I have been waiting to get a better look at the game and the gameplay. I'm really tempted to buy this, because I have been looking hidden role/traitor games (such a Secret Hitler, The Resistance etc.), but wanted to have something with more depth.

[@TheCaptCastle]

Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

[@correpepor]

Geweldige tutorial Hartstikke bedankt!!

[@szendroib]

Great summary and review!

[@BoardGameHero_]

Very clear tutorial. Nice job!

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Excellent presentation. Well done.

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Thanks!

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[@luminati6284]

Nice video. one little thing: saw that when you explain the ship moving you say you put monsters on the back of the boat in de deep but then put then beside the board. shouldnt they go to the deep area?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Hi Luminati, you're absolutely right. This is the unofficial 'easy mode'. Ahum...

[@jurgitat9343]

Hello, I love the idea of this game, I miss playing Star of Galactica, but it is so overpriced and yes it is nice to have something new. One thing bothering me is with more powers on the traitor side humans will not stand a chance, so to win a game you would pray to become a traitor. Because humans will be under constant attack and from inside and from outside. How you experience and did you feel that have balanced this thing?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Hello Jurgita, I think the key is in the crisis on the Mythos cards. In BSG I always have the feeling the humans have their hands more than full on the crisis. A successful action of the Cylons tips the scales. With Unfathomable the crises are more manageable, as are the intruders. As a traitor you really need to get in there and start sabotaging from the start, or the humans will reach port.

[@adriang6259]

nice video. Interesting

[@hugues-alexandredery8596]

Great video, thank you!!

[@davidbyrne8509]

So I was lucky enough to pick up a copy in Hong Kong yesterday. When the captain draws the waypoint cards and selects one, do you think this done in secret? Or should it be for all players to see why options there are? I can't find a clear answer in the rule book, and event attempted to find an answer in the BSG books to no avail.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

The captain does that absolutely in secret. I couldn't find it either, but their is a reference to it in the Secrecy rules: Players may not share specific information about these cards (such as the waypoint or mythos decks) but may classify the cards as being 'bad' or 'good'. So I think the captain isn't even allowed to tell what is on the card.

[@davidbyrne8509]

@@BoardgameNinjas Good spotting. Watched the FFG play through video since this and they did make the captain choose in secret. Thanks again for a great video.

[@moonshineman33]

When resolving a Mythos card and the card spawns a Deep One, where on the game board does the Deep One spawn and how many of them are placed on the board?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Hi Mike, when the Deep Ones are activated and there are none on the board, you place two deep-ones in the Deep. If there are four or more deep-ones in the Deep they spawn. Roll a die. If your roll 1-4 they spawn in front of the ship on the top space, 5-8 they spawn at the bottom space. The spaces are marked with a 1-4 and a 5-8. All the monsters (including Mother Hydra and Father Dagon) move to this space. You can reread the rule on page 18. Good luck surviving them!

[@moonshineman33]

@@BoardgameNinjas also when resolving a mythos card do you resolve the monster activation and track icon first before the crisis or after?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

@@moonshineman33 Hi Mike, you just resolve them from top to bottom. So first the crisis and last the monster activation and the tracks.

[@moonshineman33]

@@BoardgameNinjas ah so crisis (skill check/choice) first then monster activation and track movement

[@samu111]

a couple of mistakes from what I have seen so far, Chaos deck is two cards from each skill dect except the treachery and everyone but the 1st player draws the cards listed on their player card not just 3

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Hi Samu, thank you for your response. I made a mistake with the b-roll. I was so focused on the timing that I accidentally also picked the two cards from the treachery. I have corrected it in the description. The second remark that you make is not correct. You only draw three cards each as stated on page 26 of the 'Learn to Play'. The five cards is only for your first learning game, to make it more easy for the humans, just as leaving out a traitor. Thank you for your time though, I really, really appreciate it when you take the time to make my videos better. Please look in the comments for another small mistake I made on screen.... Giliam

[@MeSoNotU]

One correction: when you make the chaos deck during set-up, you take 2 cards from each of the NON-treachery decks, for 10 total.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

You are absolutely right. I was so concentrated during filming to get the timing right, that I didn't notice that I also took cards from the treachery deck. Thanks for your comment!

[@ソルグル]

The (otherwise overused) source material would have deserve a word or two, though. I mean, how does it adapt the literary background? How true does it feel to the IP's theme this time?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

That is a very nice question. I do not consider myself a sage on this matter, but the translation to a ship is a little bit of a stretch. Lovecraft describes the little port-towns in his stories according to his era: the sea is unpredictable and dangerous. Many fishermen die at sea at that time. You'll never know what happened to them. In Unfathomable the attack is very open, battling Deep Ones on the deck. For me Lovecraft is always more covert, huge world-ending dangers threaten the world and the heroes fiercely battle and save the day. Afterwards the civilians in the street don't know how close they were to total obliteration. Unfathomable feels more like pirates attacking the ship and the crew defending. Still FFG has a huge legacy of Lovecraftian elements that all return in this story. Spells sound familiar, the characters are typically FFG (with their good and bad sides), the situation is hopeless till you make it and so on...

[@ソルグル]

@@BoardgameNinjas That's the info I've sort of missed from the video, exactly. A pretty elaborate one, too. Thank you! If this game can manage to convey that kind of atmosphere as effectively as the BSG version could, and it's actually more than just yet another slightly different title of FFG's Arkham Files line, that'd be convincing enough to look into it (IMHO).

[@BoardgameNinjas]

@@ソルグル It is definitely different, because the feel of BSG is still in this game. To be honest, since the video came out, I've played Unfathomable a lot of times and also BSG a few more times. I'm afraid BSG will loose the fight and I love the setting of BSG. Unfathomable is simply a lot shorter, more chaotic so there is more happening and with BSG I sometimes feel that you are waiting for the next jump to happen. With Unfathomable there is always something to do, monsters to battle, trouble to amend or passengers to rescue. One mechanism I did not mention in the video, but that works well is taking risks: passengers will have to be rescued, but since it takes some time before it's your turn again, chances are that you'll end up in sickbay. So you have to rely on the other players to bail you out or assist you in the battle against the monsters. Now on the subject of getting you to subscribe to my channel... ;-)

[@HirionOfDale]

Awesome video!

[@christianbale4416]

Nice video, nice animations .. must have been a lot of Work?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

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@@BoardgameNinjas You have spoken.....ehm....I mean you have written? :) But seriously.....pro level production value!

[@richardviguurs5488]

Hoe is deze met 3 spelers? Battlestar Galactica heb ik destijds niet gekocht omdat we meestal niet met genoeg spelers zijn, dit lijkt dan een leuk alternatief.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Met drie spelers is nog steeds niet ideaal. Door de tweede ronde van Loyalty cards op de helft is het wel leuker en Unfathomable is veel chaotischer dan BSG. Binnen een ronde ga je van clear sailing naar 'are we going to survive this' en terug. Dat maakt het ook leuker met drie. Maar ja, er zijn nog steeds maar twee mensen die je kunt verdenken... Veel beter met vier en vijf.

[@richardviguurs5488]

@@BoardgameNinjas Thanx! Was ik wel een beetje bang voor dat je om het spel echt goed te ervaren met meer spelers moet zijn. We spelen zelf thuis Shadows over Camelot met ons drietjes, waar je ook een verrader kunt hebben; die vinden we nog steeds leuk met drie ook al blijkt vaak geen van ons de slechterik te zijn. Bij een spel als Unfathomable is de traitor mechanic natuurlijk nog een stuk belangrijker met het bijdragen aan skill tests. Ik zet 'm wat lager op het verlanglijstje, hopelijk een keer de kans om het spel ergens met meer mensen te spelen dan ;-)

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Shadows over Camelot is een geweldig spel. Voor mijn gevoel is Galactica wel een evolutie ten opzichte van Camelot en Unfathomable is weer een gestroomlijnde versie van Galactica. Gisteren zowel BSG als Unfathomable gespeeld in één dag met vijf en zoals één van mijn medespelers het zei: Galactica is meer strategisch en Unfathomable meer tactisch. Er gebeurt gewoon erg veel in een rond bij Unfathomable waar direct op geregeerd moet worden. Probeer het een keer te spelen, het levert altijd prachtige verhalen op achteraf over wie wie verdacht en waarom ze onbegrijpelijke acties uitvoerden...

[@richardviguurs5488]

@@BoardgameNinjas Als ik de kans krijg zal ik dat zeker doen, het klinkt echt als een spel voor mij!

[@kieran1505]

What’s the cultist card mean?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

That is an interesting role: it is a human and it plays in favour of the humans, but it can only win if the Hybrids win in the last few rounds of the game, after the travel track reaches 12 spaces. So you play a balancing act, where you root for the humans, but still want them weakened enough so you can strike in the last five travel steps before the humans reach port.

[@melkoinenveikko1286]

1:35 this actually looks better than the original board :D what the heck

[@BoardgameNinjas]

They should have hired me ;-)

[@melkoinenveikko1286]

@@BoardgameNinjas Indeed haha!

[@ChantalTweetiti]

Very good and succint

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Thanks!

[@nobbynobbs8182]

Speelt deze sneller dan BSG?

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Yes for sure it plays faster than BSG. Played tonight with four (two never even played BSG before) and we finished in three and a half hours. Including some explanation and the first two rounds which were very slow. BSG always said 2-3 hours, but I've never finished it under 6 hours.

[@Janisurai]

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[@DamienCaineNZ]

Without the Battlestar IP the theme here is not compelling for me, personally.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

I have to agree with you. It is a stretch and I really like Galactica. But the reason I did consider it, was that FFG normally is quite good at streamlining games. Especially reducing the playing time without taking away the fun. And they did just that. We sometimes took six hours to play Galactica and with Unfathomable I haven't sat at the table for more than three hours. And had fun, although jumping feels a bit forced...

[@DamienCaineNZ]

@@BoardgameNinjas so the three hours for Unfathomable was good streamlining as opposed to waning interest? That sounds good, certainly. I wonder if Battlestar's rules can be adjusted to give the same effect without requiring new components...

[@Tharukan]

Looks really cool and prefer this theme over Battlestar Galactica, but I think it is just too damn pricey. Yeah, there are a few minis and even a few big ones, but with a price point like this, you are competing with CMON and such in mini count and quality. Having standees for the survivors are a real no go with a price like this. I'd prefer no minis and just tokens/ standees, even. This could be a 40 buck game, easily... Won't pay double for a few mediocre deep one minis.

[@BoardgameNinjas]

Hello Tharuk, it is pricey. The quality of the minis is good, though. FFG has made some huge steps in the last few years. They are comparable in quality to their Lord of the Rings miniatures. I'm not quite sure about the 40 bucks. Especially comparing them to CMON. In my experience buying a CMON KS with all the cool stuff always ends up 250+ bucks. And FFG's games are never a dudd. But it is expensive.

[@Tharukan]

@@BoardgameNinjas I'm sure the molding quality is great, FFG got that down! I just don't think the sculpts are that interesting. Certainly nothing I'd want to pay a premium for.

[@Tharukan]

@@BoardgameNinjas With the comparison to CMON I would tend to compare core games, because this is exactly that, a core game. F. e. I could get Blood Rage or Rising Sun with not only more minis, but also more diverse and interesting minis with at least this molding quality for less than I'd have to pay for this. And most importantly, there are no Standees in those games, everything is minis. I'd bet in a few month FFG will come around with the "Unfathomable Survivor Minis Pack" for another 30 bucks, like they did with the Descent 2 villains. :D

[@lexodius]

"The year is 1913" 3:00 yeah no, it's definitely 2021