Unifi U7 Pro - Do you know what WIFI 7 is?

[@johnabriggs6044]

QAM modulation has been used for 50-plus years in different data modems and now on of the larger uses is in Fiber Optic light modulation. from Q 4 to Q64 it divided the 360 degrees into the number of sectors that will contain different bytes of info to be transmitted. Cenia uses it for their 800Gbps fiber mux to give transport companies the ability to have enough bandwidth to feed the needs of Cell 5G users to have the amount of data throughput to handle.

[@LarsKlintTech]

That is super helpful John. Thank you so much 🙏

[@EsotericArctos]

The 320MHz bandwidth will depend on the channels available in a particular country, If you select a channel that doesn't have enough consecutive / contiguous channels available, you will be limited to lower bandwidth. Like WiFi 6 in Australia can only use 160MHz in the Indoor channel range ( low channels, like 36 and 40 ) because not enough channels are available in higher channel numbers to give more than 80Mhz bandwidth. I am not sure what Australia has for 320MHz in 6GHz on WiFi 7, but I know in 5GHz for WiFi 6, we only have 1 160Mhz channel block possible and it runs into the indoor DFS range. That's where having the additional spatial streams can come in handy. Even if your device can only do 2x2, you can get better speed from multiple devices if you have more spatial streams avaliable.

[@LarsKlintTech]

Yes, that is possibly my favourite feature of Wifi 7, that devices can use multiple streams at the same time. Make so much sense.

[@JSmith73]

My AC Pro died last week, 7 years old. Fast forwarded through your review to get the gist of what you thought of it, then rushed to Scorptec to pick up the U7 Pro. Very happy I did, this thing is awesome! Thanks to the Cloud Key there was zero effort in moving the 25 odd clients to the new one; I just separated 6ghz to a new AP (with only 6ghz) so that my one and only 6E device (S21 Ultra) wouldn't switch back for I'm guessing band steering reasons. Speeds are just astounding. Love my Unifi gear, thanks for the review!

[@LarsKlintTech]

Thanks for sharing mate. I have a separate SSID for 6ghz, but not dedicated APs. The speed is really good still though (when it connects to the 6ghz APs), and I am definitely noticing it moving large video files around on the network.

[@JSmith73]

@@LarsKlintTech Ah, I actually meant an additional wireless network (ssid) - not a separate physical unit. The U7Pro handles multiple wireless networks very nicely! The old one has succumbed to a power issue I think, LED all faded and could only get 0.5mbit/s download. I have my desktop computers physically wired, but my Ryzen AM4 HTPC also has a 6E wireless connection - I'd get just sub 2ms latency to Speedtest, vs just under 1ms when wired. And around 650mbit/a sustained downloads from the FTTP - IMHO, that's crazy fast. (Signal travels around a corner and through an 8 year old 65" TV).

[@edc1569]

the downgrade to 2x2 only on 5ghz is a bit annoying for laptops of a certain age

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@edc1569 In what way?

[@feastwithethan9412]

I was contemplating wifi 7 and realised I probably won't have many devices supporting this but wanted wifi 6 so I got the enterprise which should last me for a while.

[@LarsKlintTech]

Yep, that is fair. That is a great device too. 😊

[@mastiha]

"Auto" under the channel section for the device is for the selection of channel only. It does not automatically adjust the channel width (this must be selected manually).

[@LarsKlintTech]

Ah, of course. And the "scan" function decides the channel width?

[@mastiha]

​@@LarsKlintTechThe scan function displays the coverage of the currently selected width but does not make any changes. You need to adjust the width manually. A good starting point is 40 MHz for 2.4 GHz and 80 MHz for 5 GHz. The Unifi defaults are conservative because wider channels can create more noise for your neighbours, which is more significant in urban areas.

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@mastiha thanks so much mate. That is super helpful. You should create some KZbin videos on this 😂

[@mastiha]

@@LarsKlintTech lol, thanks Lars.

[@AlexanderPavel]

@@mastiha Please don't use anything other than 20MHz for 2.4 GHz in a city or even suburban area. The only point of 2.4GHz now is for low power, low bandwidth devices, so you really don't need the extra performance that a wider channel could provide. Further, you can only get 3 nonoverlapping channels with 20MHz on 2.4 GHz (1, 6, and 11) and with 40MHz, you'll likely start overlapping other channels and cause a lot of extra interference. Multiple devices sharing the same channel can handle each other quite well, but unaligned channels is very difficult for WiFi to handle. 80 MHz for 5GHz should be fine though as the 5GHz band has a lot more space and there will likely be a couple of spots being shared by other devices with 80MHz width. 160MHz on 5GHz will likely start to lead to interference from other channels though.

[@thomasnederman]

Thanks for another great video. I am still fine with WiFi 5, we have enough bandwidth etc. No problem. The only thing i would like is the outdoor with directional antenna.. I would use that in home assistant to detect my car coming home and open the gate and some other automations. Just tried to order one but sold out in EU store 🙂 Keep up the good work

[@LarsKlintTech]

Thanks mate, appreciate the kind words. I really want at least one of the outdoor U7 devices too. I could get acres of WIFI 7! 😂 You think you could get it that accurate to detect your car/phone in time?

[@informative_walrus]

Wait, i know that guy. He taught my az900 course!

[@LarsKlintTech]

Haha, tadaaaaa!! 🎉🎉 Welcome to the channel.

[@mikemcdonald5147]

wifi 7 is magic

[@LarsKlintTech]

It must be, right? 😂

[@Stephen-Jones]

Didn't realise pixel 8 (and pro) was WiFi 7 compatible, now I just need a WiFi 7 hotspot 🤣

[@LarsKlintTech]

Have you heard of the U7 Pro from Unifi? Apparently it is really good.

[@Stephen-Jones]

@@LarsKlintTech if only someone would do a video about it 🤣

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@Stephen-Jones I wouldn't hold my breath 🙄

[@rrrrrrrr290]

hi is the ap pulled into a 2.5 gb port on switch

[@LarsKlintTech]

Good question. I don't have a switch with 2.5Gb ports, so not in this case.

[@rrrrrrrr290]

@@LarsKlintTech dose it not need 2.5 port to get full though put etc

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@rrrrrrrr290 No, it will get the throughput of the connection you provide, whether that is a 2.5Gbps, 1Gbps, 100Mbit, or something else.

[@a9503128]

Oh, the link only works for the USA 🇺🇸

[@LarsKlintTech]

Which store do you need it for?

[@tariqismrgrumpy]

@@LarsKlintTech Pity Ubiquiti don't run an official shop in your home country AU.

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@tariqismrgrumpy yep, I'm still hopeful it'll come ☺️

[@feastwithethan9412]

Specs on paper dont make sense when it can go to 5.7 Gbe (per device) but the port is only 2.5 Gbe. I will never understand why any company bothers with paper specs as it isnt real.

[@LarsKlintTech]

Yep, that is fair. I don't think any one device would use 5.7Gb either, but it gives some indication to the bandwidth and throughput it supports.

[@AHMEDALI-zr9se]

@@LarsKlintTech why not ،؟the wifi devices can communicate with reach other with out using the lan port

[@LarsKlintTech]

​@@AHMEDALI-zr9sethey can indeed. You can use the mesh option which connects the AP to another AP using wifi, but it isn't as reliable as hardwired connections and not as fast.

[@edc1569]

It's the carrier modulation rate, it's not stated as 'gbe' as its not ethernet, the modulation rates are part of the 802.3 specification its about the most accurate thing they can quote - its unfortunate if you think it means you can achieve that rate at the TCP/IP level. If you want real throughput data then you can find that out for your scenario.

[@tomaszmilos]

Hi I seee new toy in Your network and You gets me thinking: You Use agregated uplinks betwen ui devices? I mean to get biger bandwiew or biger conections on Your network - If not I thonk Your shud think about this I personaly buy USW Aggregation swich and conect that swich to my UDM SE via 10 gbit DACC cable with SFPP and uolink my SW24PoE with that swidh using 2 gbits agegate uplink using two DAC cables

[@LarsKlintTech]

I am not using aggregate uplinks, but I will look in to it. Thanks for the tip ☺

[@tomaszmilos]

@@LarsKlintTech Your network will be beter if You do this good - If You intrested to get agregate uplinks betwen buildings I recomended giber and 10 gbits sfp+ if all your swiches haver sfp plug and meybe You need USW Aggregation or USW Aggregation Pro - pro have more then 8 sfp+ plugs

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@tomaszmilos Oh, I would love to have 10Gbit connections, but it is a ton of digging, which is expensive and time intensive. I am not prepared to that just yet ☺

[@TheSpanishmuscle]

Looking forward to the U7 lite or U7+

[@LarsKlintTech]

Yeah, me too. I think a U7 lite could be the new go to AP.

[@vilikarac6776]

Just upgraded to U7. Never had better wifi at home.

[@LarsKlintTech]

Wow, that is amazing. What changes have you noticed?

[@blackrockcity]

iPhone 16 has wifi 7

[@LarsKlintTech]

Apple finally caught up. Very good.

[@blackrockcity]

@@LarsKlintTech you’re implying they were behind but very very very few people have LAN let alone an ISP which can saturate wifi 6e. Maxing out Wifi 6e at 9.6Gbps would turn any mobile device into a boiling puddle of molten metal. You’re talking about filling an entire 256GB smartphone in 26 seconds. No smartphone can do that even if tethered.

[@LarsKlintTech]

@@blackrockcity I'm not sure what you're original point was of saying iPhone 16 has Wifi 7 then? You just confirmed that the feature is useless on the iPhone 16? I was merely stating that lots of devices have been out with Wifi 7 for 12-18 months, so Apple finally caught up.

[@blackrockcity]

@@LarsKlintTechbecause others in comments say they were contemplating wifi 7 but didn’t have any devices that use it.

[@mastiha]

The new AP's don't have bluetooth so if you have things like the Unifi Sensor, they will no longer work.

[@LarsKlintTech]

True, but I think that is the only device that is dependent on Bluetooth? 🤔

[@natanielniles313]

2x2 mimo is a rip off

[@LarsKlintTech]

It's on each of the three bands though, and when we start getting Wifi 7 devices, they can use all 6 bands at the same time. Maybe that is why?

[@andyhey4576]

A fan inside the AC U7 Pro housing? What a JOKE !!!

[@LarsKlintTech]

It is a joke!! Cause there isn't one.

[@andyhey4576]

@@LarsKlintTech Do your reaserch before stating FAKE information!

[@edc1569]

It's funny how people have differing views of this for me, I'd rather the fan run than the throughput dropped when it catches a lot of sun one day and the a/c is off. If this one actually has a fan?