DOT builds are BROKEN!?!? ESO PvP Necromancer Build - Scions of Ithila

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Unified Gaming

Unified Gaming

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@MikeOcksmol
@MikeOcksmol 27 күн бұрын
How do you think this is in the current update? Were there any changes?
@Boskonovitch113
@Boskonovitch113 6 ай бұрын
Could this build be adapted to a 1-bar oakensoul build? What would skills would you keep and what gear would you wear?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 6 ай бұрын
Kind of yeah. I would use scribing to help: Force pulse, wield soul (stun, lingering torment, defile), structured entropy, Blast bones, race against time. Inferno staff + double dot poisons. This gives you wield dot, entropy dot, inferno heavy attack dot, 2 poison dots + lots of status effects. The result is good dot pressure plus you can spam force pulse and as you have charged you'd get aoe hits often too. Ultimate I would suggest meteor, dawnbreaker or vampire. I would use dragurkin, wretched vitality, oakensoul, kragr. Then put your hp up to 30k-35k. You could swap dragurkin for oblvion's foe as the lingering torment procs that set too but your other dots do lack a little or use deadly strikes.
@flambingy
@flambingy 7 ай бұрын
will test it out while watching...good stuff
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, it is REALLY fricken broken. There is 1vX cyrodiil gameplay and BG gameplay guides on the way so stay tuned for those!
@wudookid
@wudookid 5 ай бұрын
Love it! Taking this build idea and converting it for SOLO PVE content 😍
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
Have fun!
@chrishatfield7421
@chrishatfield7421 7 ай бұрын
Love it played it loved it good explanation ty for breaking down
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Thanks man! It is a fun build for sure
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
Red tree, bastion, slippery, clerety, pais refuge, mystic yenacity 50 Slippery cause often in cyrodiil i am in situation where brake free doesnt respond and i am stuck untill death, so i half to rethink the tactics of making negative effects advantage I am thinking more about getting rid of negative effects and not making them a advantage, if there were 1 or 2 slots more, but with 4 slots i feel that i am forced to go this rout
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
Slippery is nice on mag builds for sure :) Negative effects include snares, dots, status effects etc,
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
14:03 lol i cant get any try glyphs, if i buy one i am broke, if its bellow 100k i could get 1, so seems i half to go all magica on glyphs, and to get shoulders from that set, takes time (head is medium, cant change that, no ide will it hurt the build or not, cant get heavy nor light), so when i get most gear ready this char will be on hold
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
If all magicka use some points in health to help with survival
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
12:03 - 12:07 i would go with wretched cause not fan of swapping gears all the time even with armory, so i could use it in solo pve if use wretched
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard yeah I hate that a bit myself. I often just use my pvp spec and wing it in pve lol 😆
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
With BeamPlar i think go woth draugkin + deadly strikes 2 deadly pieces gloves and belt, can i make up heavy armor loss with heals? Cp: fighting finess, deadly aim, thaumaturge, focus mending Or do l need second set heling focused, use heling focus set if i want to skip heavy armor? I just think dragrkin and heavy wretched will still make me squshy, just tried few builds with heavy with other classes that still in pvp felt quite weak, so not sure whitch way to go
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
Maybe med chest and pance cause more armor Or is it 2squschy wothout heavy? Or will the damage make up the squshyness?
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
And i plan to use Sellistrix cause with dot effects incuding beam its supper annoying, i have been on the reaciving end 😆
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
Beamplar is nice and I played with dragurkin - very good but I am wondering if a pen route would be better now so am still testing it.
@philliptorres392
@philliptorres392 Ай бұрын
Hey Dan, really love all the dot style builds over your channel. I use them as the basis for a lot of my builds as dots are my favorite way to play. Is there any chance that cruel flurry could fit into a current dot build or is it too gutted?
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
templar question, after deadly strikes what other set there is more what buffs beam? i feel like it not possible to make good beam templar, i have deadly strikes/med pieces and orders wrath light currently and magica regen below 800 what i quite poor but manageable if i deal with mobs 1 by 1, but i would need heavy, heavy armor and wretched Vit would be SH damage, they made temaplar in a way u cant make it fun pvp, at least i don't see any way how i could maybe it possible to make it for only pve if body is full light and rest is deadly and some set that buffs beam, kind of like deadly but for pvp it would die fast unless u can make it so 1beam kill, like when beam end char is dead, if its possible to make it this OP then sure i can pvp with it to but if its weaker its not playable in pvp ur thoughts?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for delay. Dragur is good and deadly or go high pen like shattered fate
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 4 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming i tried draugr, it had no effect on neam, deadly and orders wrath had more damaga then deadly and draugr (do the 2sets cancel each other out like expert hunter and mage light crit buffs?), but nit enough if i want squshy build cause no way to buff defense without loosing sustain, nore then with other classes, so i need damage that del ppl before they get 2close, templar has lowest regen with 3 heavy and even then my hp and resistance is not high enough, i last longer with my melee gank med armor then templar, really hard ti make templar work properly
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
sins i am building my other warden this way dot dps healer with 2-3 heavy pieces then its not sustainable without wretched vitality (regen 2low)?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@@ShadowWizard yeah wretched back bar instead of rally
@xboxgamerz22
@xboxgamerz22 6 ай бұрын
Is this update available? Necromancer Grave Lord Shocking Siphon: Increased the damage per tick of this ability and its morphs by ~33% so they are closer to stationary Over Time effects, rather than being treated as "sticky" Over Time effects. Living Death Restoring Tether: Increased the healing per tick of this ability and its morphs by ~14% so they are closer to stationary Over Time effects, rather than being treated as a halfway between stationary and sticky Over Time effects.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 6 ай бұрын
Yeah - apologies for the delay!
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
u gave my idea how to save my h-elf magica nb, same build but with deadly, cause i plan to get the other1 for my necro i don't want to farm double :D
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
is it possible to make templar who only need to spam he bean to kill by combining this set with deadly? has any1 ever tried this?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
You can make a beamplar - I have one I am working on that is min-maxed. I am looking to release it next week to include the PTS changes as well :)
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming hmm only thing its light and med so no place to put heavy, well ofc 2 monster pieces but it can be issue, deepening on what monster set is, sins not awry1 has access to all DLC's
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
​@@Unified-Gaming i was also thinking of crazy NB build, maybe he can gank to but he uses Concealed Weapon and the stam execute from assassin tree, ful hp light and heavy attack build, tarnished and sergeant sets or sergeant and Mark of the Pariah or tarnished and Mark of the Pariah, maybe extra tankiness is good, maybe its possible to make up with CP the loss of sergeant?, like he starts like ganker and then goes to brawl so he doesn't need to run, ofc for this build focus mending would do good, but maybe with this tankiness its not necessary (monster set either selene or Anthelmir's Construct), between all that i can't think of a balance so there wouldn't be suffering, that all works, which way/set combo works better ofc currently 11/11 so cant do either beamlar and also not NB light/heavy attack 2h brawler, this build uses hes class skills to but u know sins resource pools are lower he need to use light and heavy attacks more, maybe should even add crushing weapon to that build for extra damage but this mite be 2hard to pull off sins low duration best race for it Dark Elf sins vamp to, can run even stage 4 for free stealth to surprise enemy Edit: New that i think about it, sergent is bad sins it doesn't effeck light attacks and buff duration is 2short
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming does this set proc beam? Darug's, then this + deadly would make its damage insane, on protection of keep wall and beam players away lol
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard dragur applies to each tick so HUGE boost..
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
Why not master at arms? It procs dot to, each thic is dirrect damage
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard master at arms is direct damage and dots are not. Deadly aim is single target so that's why we use this.
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming didn't they change it so each tick of dot counts as direct damage?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard nope. Dots are damage over time. The only exception is status effects procing - their initial hit is direct damage
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming seems it only procs certain type of dot, like wall of element/aoe skill dot + thaumaturge, with 1char i took master at arms out and wall of elements damage dropped
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
would u get higher damage with same build with NB? cause NB is Crit monster
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
No but templar is a good choice as they have beam and javelin so can stun which can't be blocked and execute
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
this set should also work with bow builds and bow gank builds, lethal arrow (it has a dot but not shown on skill txt) and poison injection + seer venom and this
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard the issue with this set it doesn't apply much damage unless you have lots of sources or a long time I.e. dot builds
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming bow dots are not so good/short time? what about radiant oppression/templar beam? this + deadly strikes
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming i plan to use it on my shaman build to, shaman is basically DPS healer (its build only wardens can use, posted about to ur community section), front bar applies dots (so this set is for front bar) second bar buffs and heals, including polar wind what is both buff and heal
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
sins i have zero mystics i dont think i can get damage this good, currently i have just darugkin rest gear slots free and dot skill damage shows 11k or was it 15k without any buffs , and i did mistake with draugrkin ring (just one, neck and other ring can be any set i want), i mixed up builds in memory and made it bloodthirsty i had other builds with other chars that have race against time but i just never use it, cause the short duration is so annoying and wastes MP, it has never helped me
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
The damage is carried a lot by dragurkin. Make sure you have it fully active when checking tool tips and put on sorcery. As for other things, I would suggest dropping bloodthirsty as it doesn't boost dot damage once they're active as I've explained in the video. The boost only applies on the initial cast then that point onwards but does not re-calculate it each time they tick. The other thing to note is that race against time is a movement tool so you use this to get away and reposition - that's it.
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 4 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming with templar i tried on draugr what was meant to my necro, combined it with deadly, then deadly with order, draugr made no damage difference when i used beam when i killed few mobs, if anything it was bit better with order and deadly
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard you can't compare vs pve mobs due to mobs having lower armour and no crit resitance.
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 4 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming but i can compare pve with pve and that's what i did, i tested both in pve and draugr had no effect on damage as test on mobs showed, orders and deadly was better on mobs then deadly and draugr (and my orders is heavy what decreases damage), i did not do 1 test in pvp and second test on mobs so the test is valid if draugr and deadly combo was weaker then orders and deadly combo on mobs it wont be different in pvp, and this tells me that Draugr only works on dots u apply not on beam do u new get what i am saying? orders 3 heavy pieces and deadly wep and jewels first setup i tested, deadly 2 pieces medium and jewels and draugr wep and 5 light armor pieces second setup it was set so draugr would proc on second bar where heal staff is cause of heal penalty, on first bar i had both draugr and deadly procing do draugr and deadly conflict like mage light and expert hunter? wont work together? first i test on mobs to see how good or bad something is, i know in pvp damage is lowered
@asteriart7814
@asteriart7814 6 ай бұрын
LOVE this build. Is it possible for you to upload it anywhere written? I checked your website but it seems to be outdated? Keep up the great work!
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 6 ай бұрын
I've updated it just need record new video but the changes with scribing really help this.
@AllMindGaming
@AllMindGaming 3 ай бұрын
Is the dotplar build still viable?
@cloakdargaming
@cloakdargaming 4 ай бұрын
Do you recommend any changes for gold for 43
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 4 ай бұрын
@cloakdargaming4208 not really as we stack dots and no better ones added this patch.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 7 ай бұрын
Would Dragon's Appetite be good for some sustain? I have it but blnot idea if it procs on dots for that burst heal
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Need to get a bleed damage skill in which is hard to find at range in all honesty. A warden could with cliff racer the you swap rally for dragons but similar results. The necro has more dot damage btw but warden has better class skills and heals.
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 7 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming i was saying for the 10 stacks from non bleed you get that burst heal. And yeah ranged bleed is hard to find haha
@ShadowWizard
@ShadowWizard 5 ай бұрын
where u get that outfit? hard to get or easy to get?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 5 ай бұрын
@ShadowWizard I can't recall of top of my head. I often have ones that are easy to get or free. I don't buy cosmetics. I think it is the skin from the elswry event awhile back
@sethpolk8138
@sethpolk8138 7 ай бұрын
Hey buddy hope you’re doing well Is Jerrals Mountain Warchief cleansable? I just tried with Wyrd Tree and the Malady stacks don’t fall off. This would be a great educational video. Thanks.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
I don't think you can cleanse it yourself if that makes sense. The 15 stacks you get can't be cleansed and the 35 I am unsure - I don't think so either. Will need to look into it more.
@ViiViiDvTx
@ViiViiDvTx 6 ай бұрын
The 35 can be cleansed at least on plar but when cleansed on plar they’re only able to cleanse 5 stacks at a time so in order for them to get it all off them they’d be sitting there spamming cleanse.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 6 ай бұрын
@ViiViiDvTx that's really interesting so each cleanse removes 1 stack and the templar has 5 cleanses so 5 stacks removed. Really useful to know!
@ViiViiDvTx
@ViiViiDvTx 6 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming if you were to hit purify once on your plar it’d remove 5 stacks. That means you’d have to hit purify 7 times in order to remove all 35 stacks
@ViiViiDvTx
@ViiViiDvTx 6 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming I’m sure it’s the same with wardens Betty too only being able to cleanse 5 stacks at a time but you’re much better off on a warden against it because you can just sit there and spam the Betty to remove all the stacks without a cost to it like plar has with purify
@03adrian88
@03adrian88 7 ай бұрын
Did you try running a Restoration staff on the back bar?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Yup but I prefer sword and shield simply because I can heavy attack for stam. The restro heavy then heal is nice tho.
@SimplyMuzick
@SimplyMuzick 7 ай бұрын
What ultimate are you using for the back bar?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Temporal guard
@SimplyMuzick
@SimplyMuzick 7 ай бұрын
Ty!! Great build.
@jasonvor-da-hehes678
@jasonvor-da-hehes678 7 ай бұрын
Does bloodthirsty not tick up in pvp intentionally? Or is it bugged?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Na - so when your dot is on the bloodthirsty doesn't increase the dot unless you re-apply it then it does. Annoying so I use swift instead.
@jasonvor-da-hehes678
@jasonvor-da-hehes678 7 ай бұрын
@Unified-Gaming for other builds that use dots, infused as an alternative, would be better? Or more for burst dmg and ganking?
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
@jasonvor-da-hehes678 infused buffs the dots but about 500 per dot over 20s so 1500 per dot over 20s if all infused. That isn't a huge dps boost and swift is better as a result For ganking infused wins as bloodthirsty only becomes better at sub 64% hp in pvp typically at which point the burst combo from 70% you'd use would bring them into execute range anyway.
@jasonvor-da-hehes678
@jasonvor-da-hehes678 7 ай бұрын
@Unified-Gaming thank you for the info! I love the game, I really suck at understanding synergy and how things work 🙃 you're awesome. Thank you!
@Overlich
@Overlich 7 ай бұрын
I tired out dot builds for necro. The big problem is 3 of 12 skills are from the necromancer skill tree. Regardless its a good build you put together.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
It is fun though and uses a lot of their passives :) It's a shame they lack any meaningful class skills beyond what we use currently.
@sw5949
@sw5949 7 ай бұрын
That’s a necro problem/feature for all mecro builds lol😂
@bronysaiyan5236
@bronysaiyan5236 7 ай бұрын
Could arguably make a better version of this as a warden lmao
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
@bronysaiyan5236 you get more damage with a necro as they get 15% damage done on dots PLUS you get a class dot passive.
@splder5430
@splder5430 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no matter how you build on a Cro, you need to supplement the holes on the class with sets or guild/weapon/world skills. We need cc, we need major buffs, we need a decent spammable.. no matter how you spin it, necro really is the bottom of the pile.
@loganmeeks4981
@loganmeeks4981 7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry did I miss gold road lunch or somthing how yall playing it
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
It is out 3rd July on pc.
@bankzsy2484
@bankzsy2484 7 ай бұрын
You have a link to wicked channel i wanna see the build in open world before i waste gold lol
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Video coming out tomorrow on this channel - he sent me some clips!
@1848revolt
@1848revolt 7 ай бұрын
This the build that makes the skeleton target you? I just hate the mechanics of the build even if it slaps.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Yeah this uses the sacrifice morph.
@1848revolt
@1848revolt 7 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming I tried it. Using the one set you used front bar. And deadly. It just felt so weird to me.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
@@1848revolt dragurkin is soooo much damage. This works.best when you dot and the pressure with with crushing shock as youll see in the gameplay coming
@1848revolt
@1848revolt 7 ай бұрын
Oh I know about dots with that set. It's just it feels so clunky with the blastbones hitting me and not the target.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
@@1848revolt 100%. I wish they had made it more offensive. I would have loved it if it made existing dots do bonus damage when low hp on a target or accelerate them making them tick twice as fast but 50% duration
@mateoignacio9670
@mateoignacio9670 7 ай бұрын
runecarvers is really strong on dotcro too, especially with vamp ult
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
100% - Dragur is better imo as it applies to ALL damage and pairing the two is even more broken!
@jasonallthatremains1206
@jasonallthatremains1206 7 ай бұрын
yeah I tried both on a very similar build and Dkin was better
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 7 ай бұрын
Im over trying my ass off to kick some ass in bgs what class should i change to? Hahaha
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Sorcerer or nb are very good. Templar and dk are very forgiving. Warden is in-between - Jack of all trades but master of none.
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 7 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming I'm just so stubborn because necros skills are the best looking hahaha
@trigger0403
@trigger0403 7 ай бұрын
@@Unified-Gaming does being on console matter what class is best
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
@trigger0403 na - a lot of it comes down to how you play. I play on pc eu myself. Focus on moving and buff management then add damage in. Often people get too offensive than die as they forget buffs or resource management.
@stanmarsh5973
@stanmarsh5973 7 ай бұрын
Show gameplay
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
There are 3 videos showing gameplay, a live stream and I also showed some on stream tonight with the new update - Gold Road.
@theperson7718
@theperson7718 7 ай бұрын
WOW dude. How long you been playing ESO? I don't know if I can trust a build coming from a guy that doesn't even know how bloodthirsty works. You don't get 350 weapon and spell damage right at 90% health. Read the tooltip. it's Increases your Weapon and Spell Damage against enemies under 90% Health by up to 350. key words there (BY UP TO) meaning at 90% health it might be something like 10 weapon and spell damage and at say 0 to 20% you might start to see the 350 weapon and spell damage. NOTE that those number are just for illustration purposes only as I don't know the exact breakdown of how bloodthirsty scales from 90% to 0%,, but you get the gist of it.
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
I unsertsand how it works. The issue is that even when the target is say at 90% hp it doesn't do anything extra. If you then damage then below 90% say to 50% the dot that was applied at 90% doesn't increase in damage even though they're lower. That is what I'm referring to and thus the bloodthirsty doesn't really benefit us.
@runkorko
@runkorko 7 ай бұрын
Never trust "on papper" builds. When i see PTS, im done. Yes it may look good/ or great/ on papper. It may work vs the random mofo you test it on pts, or vs the 100 guars you kill on the singe pull on Cyro, it may even work on live console servers, but on pc, nope. It wont. Ofc it will feel great in /SOME low mmr/ BGs. May feel great while playing with zergs, or with coordinated grp of friends.But in few vs X or solo, you will be clapped. Hard. No sustain. Your pool is small. Your sac BB is SH/T (is) there are X sources of cleanse, and dot build is not viable, even on DK`s. I dont mean way of fire, i mean real sticky dots builds- as yours. You will be pined on your defensive bar, and you magica will go out after 1-2 openers from NB, or 1-2 frag procs. Will be even worse if you are alone. Your dmg, heal, mobility all cost magica- gl sustaining and staying ofensive. Wont mention the need of full rebuf Every 15 sec. No matter how much we love the class, we need to admit that is dogshait, and stop with Unkilable, Sick, Unstopable, Disgusting necro PvP guides, builds, or ZoS will never fix it. As long as there ppl who preach that class is good outside RP. Have fun and ty for the video
@Unified-Gaming
@Unified-Gaming 7 ай бұрын
This has been shown on stream working in bgs, cyrodiil and duels. I've also posted some videos too and there is a 1vX video with multiple shown too on the way. So yeah...
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