The History of: The US Air Force Digital Tigerstripe & Airman Battle Uniform (ABU) | Uniform History

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@matthewpham9525
@matthewpham9525 5 жыл бұрын
"Lets make a distinctive uniform!" "What should the coloration be?" "The exact same as the Army's"
@bill9693
@bill9693 5 жыл бұрын
Airforce:Hey lemme copy your homework US Army:Alright just dont make it the same as mine Airforce:ok
@charlesinglin
@charlesinglin 5 жыл бұрын
You've got to wonder how much money would have been saved if all three branches just copied the Marines, who copied the Canadians.
@IMSvideos13
@IMSvideos13 5 жыл бұрын
The Marine Corps created Marpat so that they could be different from the other branches, they even own the patent on it.
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 5 жыл бұрын
Plus you would still have to print cloth without the Eagle Globe and Anchor embedded in the pattern.
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 5 жыл бұрын
Digital tigerstripe in Marpat or OCP colors, hmm...
@StrainXv
@StrainXv 5 жыл бұрын
@@jukkatalari3896 Tiger stripe only works in area's of foliage, the horizontal lines are easily distinguishable otherwise.
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 5 жыл бұрын
@@StrainXv Look up "Desert Tiger Stripe" and imagine the digital tiger design with aforementioned colors :)
@jarink1
@jarink1 5 жыл бұрын
So, in other words the USAF wasted millions of dollars of taxpayer money on a fashion statement that no one liked.
@miletello1
@miletello1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ltcg1674
@ltcg1674 5 жыл бұрын
yep
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid so. I was present for much of these follies, rolling my eyes and shaking my head.
@Alvi410
@Alvi410 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most air forcy things the air force ever did.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Air Force was just copying their big brother while still trying to look unique.
@thebernice6062
@thebernice6062 5 жыл бұрын
In my civilian career with the Air Force one of the first things that became obvious was the relationship between the USAF and the Army is much closer than either branch wants to admit. Both share the same heritage, almost identical rank structures, and operate closely with each other. In my experience the Air Force usually follows the Army's lead when it comes to things used on the ground.
@charlesshelton7989
@charlesshelton7989 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Army guys in Kandahar (2018-2019) with Sig Saur pistols. Around that time the Air Force started the administrative process of fielding Sigs. In my experience, whenever the army does something, the Air Force usually makes a piss poor attempt to copycat. Same thing with OCP but with burnt orange lettering for the name tapes instead of black.
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesshelton7989 Not always. The Army followed the Air Force lead in development and fielding of the M16.
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 Жыл бұрын
The air force was stated as a branch of the army.
@r.w.860
@r.w.860 Жыл бұрын
We always give each other shit but deep down we love each other (in a non homo way)
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 10 ай бұрын
The Army is the Air Force's daddy. Which is funny because it also means that the Army is Space Force's grandpa. The USAF copying most of what the Army does for things like uniforms makes a lot of sense though. The Army is the largest and it's going to get better pricing simply because of its buying power. Makes sense for another branch to take advantage of that when you're procuring stuff like uniforms and boots. When Generals and Admirals say they want to make their branch distinct, the Pentagon should tell them to do so through actions like making sure your departing servicemembers can use their military skill to obtain equivalent civilian licensing/certification. Or maybe to better support personnel so they aren't offing themselves in record numbers. If your mark of distinction is a stupid camo pattern where it isn't needed, you're a shitty commander. Case in point: the US Navy's NWU type-1. The ugly blue camo that served no purpose and didn't offer any real improvement over the Utilities that it replaced, not to mention that most sailors underway just wear the coveralls. Once it came out that the NWU-1 was nowhere near as fire resistant as it needed to be, the Navy decided that instead of just using what had worked before in the Utilities or an Army pattern, they came up with their own unique woodland and arid patterns. Finally, the Navy seems to have gotten its poop in a group and the new naval working uniforms are going to be the same NWU cut which sailors liked, but just a solid dark blue for lower enlisted and khaki for upper enlisted. Which is fine, because there's no point trying to camoflage sailors on a big gray boat. Oh, and dress whites on a dirty ass ship = DUMB IDEA. Just use the dress black uniform, it looks better anyway. And instead of requiring certain boots, just use an off-the-shelf all black workboot with safety toe and EH rating. If your SEALs or Sea-Bees need camo for the field, just wear Army patterns. They're cheap, available and they work. Navy Corpsmen attached to USMC units are authorized to wear MARPAT.
@austinturner3940
@austinturner3940 6 жыл бұрын
The Blue Tiger Stripe was trialed when I was growing up on McChord AFB. We joked that the only people that needed it were pilots to blend into the sky.
@pickeljarsforhillary102
@pickeljarsforhillary102 5 жыл бұрын
USAF: Not enough money to get addition security forces who are working 12-16 hour days but we have the money to design a uniform nobody wants or needs.
@mr_beezlebub3985
@mr_beezlebub3985 5 жыл бұрын
So glad the Army and Air Force are now using the OCP pattern. It’s like a throwback to BDUs, and I love it.
@diezl187
@diezl187 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Former Army here. I always assumed a few high ups were at a bar and the Army said "check out how terrible of a uniform I made". Then the air force said "hold my beer."
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 4 жыл бұрын
Marines: did it right the first time Army tested good patterns, picked a nasty one, then sweitched to a good one Airforce: didnt even try, then switched to the army's new one
@hammerheartoutdoors9146
@hammerheartoutdoors9146 6 жыл бұрын
The military really fell off the wagon when it switched from woodland
@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654
@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 6 жыл бұрын
The Marine Corps was the only branch that did it right .
@hammerheartoutdoors9146
@hammerheartoutdoors9146 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Moon agreed, at least the army and airforce are taking a step in the right direction with multicams
@thegunshow7635
@thegunshow7635 6 жыл бұрын
You mean BDU and UCP right?
@ridgely1635
@ridgely1635 5 жыл бұрын
Only the marines did it right the first time
@donhoggard604
@donhoggard604 5 жыл бұрын
@@Texasmilitarydepartmentvid9654 The current Army pattern was one of the possibilities when they adopted the ACUs. They also did not listen to the troops who almost all wanted a green/brown based camo.
@D__Lee
@D__Lee 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. When I was in the USAF back in the early 70’s, our fatigue was plain olive drab. It served its purpose. My favorite uniform was the khaki which the USAF discontinued during my enlistment but I wore it to the end. The video simply highlighted the fact that the USAF mis-spent lots of $$$ for a fashion statement. Unless you’re in a special operations unit, you have no need for cammo uniform.
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 жыл бұрын
What about the Air Force Infantry who guard and patrol the airfields? Makes sense why they would wear camo patterns.
@D__Lee
@D__Lee 2 жыл бұрын
@@madgavin7568 Even during wartime, most USAF airbases are far behind the frontline so the threat of an enemy ground attack is minimal. It's the lone or small group intrusion that worries airbase security. Airbases are also flat with concrete and asphalt airstrips with very few trees so camo uniforms for cover and conceal doesn't make much sense; and who are they hiding from. You want your security forces to been seen to be a deterrent. From my experience, unless they're stationed at the gates, most USAF base security guards patrol in vehicles because they have so much ground to cover.
@madgavin7568
@madgavin7568 2 жыл бұрын
@@D__Lee Oh okay, but what about the surrounding vicinity of the airfield? You want to have patrols covering a few miles around the airfield right? To prevent the possibility of intruders. Which is where the camo comes into play for concealment in the foliage/vegetation (if its there anyway), or if its a desert.
@mzmadmike
@mzmadmike 5 жыл бұрын
"Distinctive" "Camouflage. " Two words NEVER to use in the same sentence.
@Average_Democracy_Enjoyer
@Average_Democracy_Enjoyer 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, regarding a sub-par uniform. Subscribed, and greetings from the USAF.
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 5 жыл бұрын
During my tour, Viet-Nam era Tiger Stripe was very effective in heavy vegetation, but really sucked in desert use...lighter fabric would have made the Tiger Stripe more practical too...
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 5 жыл бұрын
Google: desert tiger stripe
@MountaintravelerEddie
@MountaintravelerEddie 5 жыл бұрын
Tony V many of the grunts were shot at first because the tiger stripe wasn’t too effective. From DaLat to Bien Hoa, to Hai Phong, to SaPa to Hoi An to DaNang to Vung Tau.....tigerstripe sucked. ERDL green and brown variants were better off..... The underbrush was mainly browns/tans in those areas...a lot of pine trees. Near the Laotian border is where most of the “jungle” was. Today camo is a fashion statement. There is a desert tiger stripe pattern...it’s also very thin. It works very well in Afghanistan....I used it there. Just my .02 cents from a retired Marine When is the last time you were in Vietnam?? I’m here in Hue now....flew into Phu Bai airport yesterday. Check out some of my videos on my channel.
@buukute
@buukute 3 жыл бұрын
Snake dislike your opinion
@charlesshelton7989
@charlesshelton7989 4 жыл бұрын
ABU: You MARPAT: The guy she told you not to worry about
@omarrp14
@omarrp14 5 жыл бұрын
Such a waste of money, they should have just stuck with BDU's till our stores ran dry, then pick up whatever the army was using at the time like they are now. I doubt that they would have gone through the BDU supply by now in 2019.
@steffanwamsley7575
@steffanwamsley7575 5 жыл бұрын
Very true. It was embarrassing as prior service Air Force, that the "Smart, College with bombs" Branch, implemented a camouflage so stupid that uniform contractor issued a public apology. Then again, the Army leadership created the abomination that is UCP while having a superior camouflage on hand and the Marines, "the make do" Branch, actually had a unique and functional camouflage.
@coleshannon7997
@coleshannon7997 5 жыл бұрын
They were so close with this. The potential to be an amazing pattern was there. They just had to go with the ucp colour scheme
@BeltFedSelfDefense
@BeltFedSelfDefense Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they had gone with M81 woodland colors? That'd been sick
@sauronthemighty3985
@sauronthemighty3985 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, it would blend in with the environment of an airfield...
@coleshannon7997
@coleshannon7997 10 ай бұрын
@sauronthemighty3985 that's fair
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I never knew what the behind-the-scenes process was like!
@darknessesdarknesses2492
@darknessesdarknesses2492 5 жыл бұрын
God, I despise the ABU. I wore my BDU'S until the very last day while in Korea. I am glad that we have the OCP now.
@ywe3
@ywe3 4 жыл бұрын
I despised the blue and grey ones...the REAL camo ones are great tigerstripe makes great gear don't blame them for the 4 star idiot
@byff2323
@byff2323 2 жыл бұрын
I got to wear the OCP in Afghanistan before I retired. It was the most comfortable and practical uniform I ever wore.
@enclavesoldier769
@enclavesoldier769 Жыл бұрын
OEF-CP FRACU’s are the best. I still wear them even though the wear out date was like 4 years ago. No one bats an eye
@servicerifle16
@servicerifle16 5 жыл бұрын
Watch in 15 years after the entire military has transitioned to Multicam we'll go back to Olive Drab.
@koolyman
@koolyman 4 жыл бұрын
They should have transitioned the actual winner of the trials - desert all over brush. At least that would've been progress.
@Hansengineering
@Hansengineering 4 жыл бұрын
The other day I read an opinion piece, OK I lightly skimmed an opinion piece, saying EVERY military person should have a duty uniform separate from battle uniforms, because of how Trump is using HHS people as Stazi in Portland. The best thing to come out of the 2000's uniform mess was everyone stopped requiring your combat uniform to look "good" and "neat" in garrison. You want your solidiers to look neat? There's Class Bs. "But you can't work in class Bs!" yeah you want your soldiers to WORK? Let them fucking look like they work! Starched ODs would be that discrete duty uniform. They would fucking suck.
@koolyman
@koolyman 4 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about this comment... it probably will probably eventually transition to tan/khaki. Camouflage has turned more into a fashion statement than of functional use. Just look at the NWU and ABU. Stupidity.
@mixmaster2909
@mixmaster2909 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Hansen I never understood that, starching your BDUs is the stupids fucking thing I’ve ever heard of it’s just wasting time bringing 2 uniforms with you to work everyday
@Hansengineering
@Hansengineering 4 жыл бұрын
@@mixmaster2909 Perhaps we can parallel military uniform trends to civilian clothing at each timeframe. In the 50's, if you were a professional, you showed up to work in a black suit, white shirt, skinny black tie, and a hat. The hat disappeared after the 60's, but the suits stayed the same. At the time, the military wore ironed and starched OD fatigues, and a shitty ball cap. The 70's, professionals still wore suits and ties, and it was common for people to iron their denim and button up shirts with obnoxiously large collars. Into the 80's, the military releases a BDU with an... obnoxiously large collar. Ironing isn't supposed to be necessary, but everyone is doing it to their civilian clothing, so it makes its way to military practice. By the 2000s, we're in to hoodies and jeans in professional settings. It shouldn't be surprising that level of comfort should be reflected in military uniforms. Just a quick thought.
@bryanmontgomery996
@bryanmontgomery996 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Well researched and presented. Keep 'em coming!
@limabravo6065
@limabravo6065 4 жыл бұрын
10 year Air Force vet, and as you mention the Air Force designed this uniform (costing millions of taxpayer dollars) to differentiate us from the other services. When the uniform was being developed the other services already had their digy uniforms which made the then current BDU / DCU uniforms unique to the Air Force. The ABU was a giant waste of time and money, and it had the added benefit of being the shittiest most uncomfortable uniform for deployment I’ve ever experienced and I refused to wear it down range until the DCU (which I’d buy with my own money) became unauthorized. As a security forces (military police to everyone else) troop we were the only non SF combat oriented career field in the Air Force and the ABU was a curse, it was super thick so you’re already boiling in it (not a problem for 99% of the Air Force that work in AC all day) then strapping on armor and the rest of your gear, made things fucking awful. And then after all that wasted money, and tortured troop they decide to ditch the Abu which I’m glad they did, just sorry I never got to wear them. I think the person most directly responsible for this travesty of a uniform was Gen. Hertog (I think that’s how you spell her name) and Mam if you read this please go die in a fire 🖕. Just kidding I don’t really want her to die, and apparently I have to say that otherwise I’ll incur the wrath of KZbin
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 5 жыл бұрын
The Chief Master Sergeant shown demonstrating the "blue beanie" uniform at 1:03 was assigned to my team at the Combat Support Center on the Air Staff. Air Force Times ran a large spread showing him in the new BDU. It was a bit embarrassing for him, as most of us mocked the uniform (he took it pretty well). Thanks to the internet, someone soon created and started passing around several jokes, mostly composed of color enhanced photos with captions embedded to show what most already thought of the outfit. The pièce de résistance was a series of photos taken of General Jumper and the Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force when they toured forward units overseas. Somebody richly enhanced the blue tint to show just how incongruous the uniform was with the arid environment, and the resulting images made them look like smurfs. Shortly after this fiasco, the program was radically altered. Now don't think the criticism was limited to just this uniform. Many were making fun of the Army's new black beret about the same time and the Navy's strange decision to develop a blue camouflage NWU for wear on shipboard (man overboard - where, where?). Of course we in the USAF were also seriously considering a proposed new Air Force dress uniform that was amazingly reminiscent of something a London bobby (or Keystone cop) would wear. This was nothing new. In the 1960s we had a tropical uniform consisting of shorts and a pith helmet which made you look like a postman on his rounds. Even the old blues I wore during the 70s and 80s sometime resulted in my being mistaken for a Greyhound bus driver. Former Chief of Staff General Merrill McPeak didn't help matters much when he designed our next uniform, a blazer with silver braided cuffs that looked so much like airline pilot uniforms that some people started referring to us as US Air. If you want to see how some of these outfits looked, check out these two links. www.wearethemighty.com/articles/air-force-uniforms en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_of_the_United_States_Air_Force
@matthewbarber4505
@matthewbarber4505 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, incredible stories, thank you for sharing! It seems that a lot of choices about uniforms and gear often boil down to some bureaucrats fashion statement or pet project. The essence of form over function, lol
@Paladin1873
@Paladin1873 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbarber4505 It would seem so. Have you ever seen the uniform the new Space Force created? It falls somewhere between Dune and Buck Rogers.
@banhammer7243
@banhammer7243 5 жыл бұрын
"I want a camouflage pattern that will make us stand out!" ??? lol
@ncdevildog
@ncdevildog 5 жыл бұрын
The last 2 decades have been nothing short of a uniform debacle for the US Military. The USMC requirement initially started innocently enough when General Jones was Commandant. I happened to be on the inside scoop for a lot of the events that transpired in not just the adoption of MARPAT, but also the love affair with he Coyote Brown color that features prominently on everything from boots to e-tool covers. What this uniform identity crisis (UIC) caused, in all branches, has been a gear and uniform frenzy. And don't get me started on the Army Blues....
@Jason-iz6ob
@Jason-iz6ob 4 жыл бұрын
Looking into all these modern uniform and “camouflage” patterns is a good spotlight on the incompetence and corruption that’s running rampant in our systems today. When I was a brand new private they could’ve given me and my buddy’s 2 hours, some paper, pens, and some color swatches from Home Depot and we could’ve come up with better stuff than this. Total cost, maybe 50 bucks.
@kingofwishfulthinking2490
@kingofwishfulthinking2490 4 жыл бұрын
“Airmen, we have heard your complaints about uniforms that don’t blend in with anything. So we have instead issued you uniforms that don’t blend in with anything, except maybe the Army uniforms, even though these uniforms are supposed to be distinct. Aim high!”
@ramathorn1982
@ramathorn1982 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this series...subscribed!
@vieuxacadian9455
@vieuxacadian9455 Жыл бұрын
The USAF always seemed to love the sage color of sorts . There is no one pattern fits all terrain . I served in the AF wearing ODG and then woodland bdu . What I have noticed over a lifetime is texture is just as important as color and pattern. Many fabrics will reflect light at extreme angles. Nature still has the best camo patterns.
@alejandrogonzales7022
@alejandrogonzales7022 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing lots of airmen in Kuwait wearing the tri-color deserts with 8 point covers back in 2003 and 2004
@SAINTJAMESOFFICIAL
@SAINTJAMESOFFICIAL 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a Australian DPCU, DPDU & DPNU and the evolution of the 2010’s into the current AMCU, GPU & MMPU? They’re very unique and often unknown camouflages. It would mean a lot, JxmmyJxmes
@mzmadmike
@mzmadmike 5 жыл бұрын
I was in service, following that closely at the time. USAF had little choice. When the Army got rid of BDU Woodland, it was either wear UCP like the Army, or come up with something else. But we mocked the shit out of the Smurfy blue Power Ranger drag. We were literally putting those jokes and images up on the unit notice boards--white for cooks, pink for medics, GI Joe comparisons, everything. And refused to adopt it. They kept pushing back the adoption date, telling us it was "Available for viewing" in the clothing sales shop, and then "Available for purchase" if we wanted to be early. No one did. Literally no one. You reference it being sent out for field tests, and the photo of the female SP was in one of the articles. It may have been Air Force Times. It was also on one of the websites. They said, "We want your feedback." Within 24 hours, the site changed to, "And not your immediate feedback, but after you've considered how it will work in your duty section." Well, I was an engineer, crawling around in mud and on flight lines. It wasn't going to work in my duty section, EVER. And we kept refusing to wear it. The adoption date was pushed back, then back again, and still another year, and compliance was zero. Eventually the Navy came along with blue camo, and it was gone the next week. Other issues: The blue proposal required tucking in shirts, which isn't comfortable, doesn't look "more professional," and lost two pockets that were useful for stuff. Of course, the Army did that too, for some stupid reason. As for the adopted ABU: Yes, we cut the map pockets out. They were pointless and impossible to access. Most Airmen fielding with Army units just wore ACUs, whether authorized by reg or not. Also, all our unit patches went away, destroying much of our unit pride--AF unit logos are worthy of a video themselves. One of the games was to get suggestive imagery past the Office of Heraldry by describing it as something other than what it was. Even worse: the permanent press material contained polyester. DoD regs prohibit uniforms made of melting material if you work around caustics, flammables, or electrical, which is about a third of the USAF. My engineer unit was still in DCUs while deployed in 2008, against the brass objections, waiting for them to develop an appropriate material for the ABUs. It was a complete lack of thought and research, in the quest to be "Distinctive," which word should never be used in the same sentence.
@romans6two338
@romans6two338 Жыл бұрын
I've been in 20 years now and I hated it when they took away our ability to wear squadron patches, majcom etc. Then we go to OCPs and back to patches. It just doesn't make sense.
@shramj
@shramj 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel! Glad I found it, a lot of good info.
@Lophaetus
@Lophaetus 4 жыл бұрын
I got to Basic Training the Last week they were issuing ABU's, the Next week we were seeing Airmen in OCP's, around September 19'. I was salty having to buy new Uniforms SMH. Awesome videos man
@charlesshelton7989
@charlesshelton7989 4 жыл бұрын
Before deploying to Afghanistan I went out into the desert and burned my ABU's and peed on the ashes. All that remained were the buttons. I also learned why you shouldn't throw a cigarette lighter into a fire.
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 5 жыл бұрын
Digi tiger is probably my favorite Camo pattern Just wish they were in better color pallets like the scorpion coloring
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 4 жыл бұрын
Look up "all terrain tiger".
@donki4307
@donki4307 5 жыл бұрын
What about the desert varriant of Tiger stripes camo?
@phillipnunya6793
@phillipnunya6793 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact. We call them the NWU Type 1 (arguably pointless blue), NWU Type 2 (tan), and NWU Type 3 (green). As for the Airforce's UCP stripes, I can confirm that it's basically the same. I bought a bunch of surplus gear for my own use since it was so cheap. I have almost everything in UCP, but I was able to find one or two things in that Airforce pattern only. It blends in just fine.
@flavortown3781
@flavortown3781 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a MOLLE 2 ruck in ABU
@sgtmtrush
@sgtmtrush Жыл бұрын
Having been in the Air Force since the days of BDUs, I've worn all of the last three uniform variants. I can fully agree that actual concealment isn't necessary for the vast majority of Air Force personnel, though in the modern era the same could be said of the other branches as well. I can also agree with the desire to honor the specific heritage of each branch. With those things in mind, and with the obvious benefit of saving millions of taxpayer dollars. I'm still convinced the right answer would have been a solid color uniform. Maybe sage green like flighsuits have been for ages. After all, aircrews downed behind enemy lines have a greater need for concealment than anyone else, but plain sage is good enough for them. Even using one of the base colors from the Army ACU which would have allowed for the use of gear in that pattern would have made sense. Instead they answered a series of questions nobody ever asked and spent millions upon millions of dollars at a time when maintenance crews couldn't find parts. If this had been the outcome or a corporate board's decisions, everyone involved would have been fired.
@discostuchannel
@discostuchannel 4 жыл бұрын
It's great when people tell me that you blend into the flightline tarmac when wearing this pattern, which makes no sense since you don't normally wear hats or tops depending on the weather.
@selflessly101
@selflessly101 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. You satisfy my obsession.
@stupidshellfish3769
@stupidshellfish3769 Жыл бұрын
You should do beo gam camo I'd love to see that
@juanxnaranjo647
@juanxnaranjo647 3 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that they had decided to go with the colors because a vast majority of us are maintainers and work on runways or airfields, which are gray and the pattern meshes well when seen from above.
@richardoliver1468
@richardoliver1468 5 жыл бұрын
The Military should have taken the original BDU and modified it to meet the newest Army camouflage design. Then all you have to do is attach your branch of service tape above the left pocket. This would make it easier on the pocket for those individuals that do an intra service enlistment.
@HuffDaddyYT
@HuffDaddyYT 4 жыл бұрын
Idk man at 1:55 the blue tiger stripe with black shirt looks better than the ABU and sand shirt in my opinion. But overall I hates the ABUs
@PACKERMAN2077
@PACKERMAN2077 5 жыл бұрын
*0:49** an Air Force General named **_JUMPER?_* I was expecting to see Richard Dean Anderson's face on the head of that uniform
@mobiusonerocks
@mobiusonerocks 6 жыл бұрын
Informative and simple! Like it!
@Warvvolf
@Warvvolf 5 жыл бұрын
ABUs might work well with a light brown/coyote dye job.
@sovereignstate6760
@sovereignstate6760 5 жыл бұрын
I used to really like the Air Force's camo. I believe it's because it was obviously based off of the tiger stripe pattern with UCP colors. It was until I started playing Wildlands where I used the Air Force camo a lot and experimented with it that I noticed that it was in the gray camo section and how much it didn't blend into any of the environments well. I now have no love for the camo and am happy that it's finally going to get replaced in October!
@iamstewpit6740
@iamstewpit6740 4 жыл бұрын
It's called the "Airman Battle Uniform" but I have literally never seen an airman in battle. Hell, I've never even seen an airman in full battle gear.
@poodogjazzy
@poodogjazzy 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard CCT's, PJ's, SR's, and TACP's are just myths to make the airforce seem cooler.
@awyeguwqyerwerwe
@awyeguwqyerwerwe 6 жыл бұрын
Tiger stripe is my favorite type of camo, wish they, or the army would pick it up but in better colors and drop the gray shit
@kerbalairforce8802
@kerbalairforce8802 4 жыл бұрын
Look up "desert tiger" and "all terrain tiger". They were designed by the company that was going to make the ABU, but refused to generate a pattern that wasn't effective.
@StarlightEater
@StarlightEater 3 жыл бұрын
I like the air force tiger stripe.
@cobalt2449
@cobalt2449 4 жыл бұрын
Weird to think I watched this a year ago and now I was apart of the first set of airman to get ocps in basic
@dethofgod666
@dethofgod666 5 жыл бұрын
lol concealment wasn't a concern. Great work Air Force
@edward_the_bruce
@edward_the_bruce 5 жыл бұрын
Lol right? If you're going to issue something like that at the very least allow the guys on the ground to use old uniforms.
@rupvictoria3017
@rupvictoria3017 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the new Air Force uniform OCPs please
@DriveCarToBar
@DriveCarToBar 10 ай бұрын
OK, that All Terrain Tiger pattern @4:50 is freaking hot! I want a set of those for 2-Gun matches but nobody currently produces any. Le big sadge.
@echodelta2172
@echodelta2172 6 жыл бұрын
People always wonder why the AF was so excited to get OCPs after the ABU. This video illustrates fairly well that the ABU was a product of detached armchair generals feebly attempting to leave their mark on the military. Not to mention that it was replacing a uniform that was well-liked (BDU). The ABU represented everything the Air Force hated about the military's bureaucracy and lack of receptiveness to feedback. The OCP is in and everyone is relieved.
@rupvictoria3017
@rupvictoria3017 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on old Air Force uniforms from WWII (Army Air Forces) Korea to Vietnam, and post Cold War?
@asusasus5277
@asusasus5277 6 жыл бұрын
Do BDU!!
@Critical_libertarian
@Critical_libertarian 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the Air Guard and I purchased the OCP as soon as I was able to screw the ABU
@tristin6995
@tristin6995 5 жыл бұрын
Sitting on my bed in this uniform watching this video lol
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is pretty good, dyed 50/50 dark brown/olive green.
@kingofwishfulthinking2490
@kingofwishfulthinking2490 4 жыл бұрын
I will say though, imagine if the ABUs had debuted as the Space Force issue uniform. They would’ve been considered badass. Timing is important.
@donki4307
@donki4307 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@A-Switz
@A-Switz 5 жыл бұрын
Shouldve just gone with the multicam tigerstripe
@mechislander
@mechislander 5 ай бұрын
Over here, the air force has blue uniforms too. The ministry of defence says it's to camouflage against the sky seen at the end of runways.
@giulianotoniolo
@giulianotoniolo Жыл бұрын
It looks like if the army jumps off a cliff, the air force will follow (no parachute attached) lol I remember in the 80´s when they used the M81 woodland pattern, but it featured blue instead of the black sploches!! Man oh man
@itsagrayday
@itsagrayday 2 жыл бұрын
I joined the Air Force at the end of the abus but it still took me a good year and a half to get ocp.
@Tunkkis
@Tunkkis Жыл бұрын
Nam era tigerstripe patterns fuck exceptionally hard.
@jukkatalari3896
@jukkatalari3896 5 жыл бұрын
The only surroundings where the UCP colors blends into background (bare rock with maybe some sparse vegetation, like in Baltic Sea outer archipelago and northern Lapland), the ABU digital tigerstripe works better than UCP. I have a ruck (made by israeli company Source) in ABU that I use for hunting. Put a flap into it made of Cordura printed in FDF M05 camo; if I leave it among some moss covered boulders, I have a hard time finding it :D A friend of mine got fed up with city life and moved up north; when he goes hunting, he uses ABU or UCP pants, Brit DPM jacket to blend in. Too bad the ABU items are quite hard to find in surplus stores nowadays.
@TheCrystalJules
@TheCrystalJules Ай бұрын
I'm thinking it could do well in chaparral/sage brush hills too, considering picking up some for cheap hunting goretex
@sweast8302
@sweast8302 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Air Force should have kept the tiger stripe pattern but gone with a better color scheme like that of the scorpion ocp uniforms.
@MiddleOutdoorsman
@MiddleOutdoorsman 6 жыл бұрын
At 0:52 General John Jumper? OMG, is this guy like McPeak 2.0? "Distinguish" the AF? Concealment not a concern? Good grief this guy was General McPeak reincarnated!
@MiddleOutdoorsman
@MiddleOutdoorsman 6 жыл бұрын
As an aside, having served in the 90's in the McPeak era , boy could i tell a long story about uniform stupidity. At one point in time, during open ranks inspection, you could find no less then 3 different authorized "uniform" variations. And don't even get me started on that cheap suit they call a service uniform. McPeaks enduring legacy that should have also been rescended.
@chrais78
@chrais78 6 ай бұрын
This video os 5 yrs old so hopefully nobody's asked this already. From 4:40 to 4:50, a uniform is displayed in the open letter which appears to use a hybrid OCP/tiger stripe pattern. What happened with that pattern?
@brodeleth5764
@brodeleth5764 4 ай бұрын
Its all terrain tiger stripe. Its available some places online, but its been getting harder and harder to find for some reason.
@shirleylyn11
@shirleylyn11 4 жыл бұрын
Any advice on where to buy the Digi Tiger stripe?
@mixmaster2909
@mixmaster2909 4 жыл бұрын
All branches should have just made a digitized version of m81 woodland
@antinewtypenewtypeclub3428
@antinewtypenewtypeclub3428 3 жыл бұрын
great info!
@TheRomanTribune
@TheRomanTribune Жыл бұрын
I was there for it lol. Wore the abu tiger stripes, no one liked it except for me i thought it made us stand out for marching which was cool. Then switched in 2021 to the ocp .. i just called it "standard military uniform" because of how bland and boring it is lol
@nuphhrffe875
@nuphhrffe875 5 жыл бұрын
The multicam tigerstripe looks sooo good
@lazor222
@lazor222 3 жыл бұрын
They should have kept the digital tiger stripe and changed up the colors to actually be effective. Multicam is cool but I always liked the ABU's because of tiger stripe, even if the colors were as bad as UCP.
@bloodbushcraft2467
@bloodbushcraft2467 4 жыл бұрын
I would have loved the tigerstripe multicam. But it's some nice fashion
@travpots6318
@travpots6318 4 жыл бұрын
Good job
@LOFIGSD
@LOFIGSD 3 жыл бұрын
I came to this video, because I noticed this pattern on a Surplus site, and thought, that looks a poor camouflage pattern, is it real! DPM still rocks in most of the UK, for stealth WIld Camping.
@Orvz475
@Orvz475 5 жыл бұрын
What about the 3 color desert camouflage pattern?
@nunyabusiness4904
@nunyabusiness4904 5 жыл бұрын
One correction the thread for rank and name tapes is not gold, it is spice brown which honestly makes more sense than the black that the Army wears, put a nice black dot right on center mass for the enemy to aim at.
@bellakaldera3305
@bellakaldera3305 Жыл бұрын
When I wore a USAF uniform, it was green fatigues. They were comfortable, I worked in a bomb dump, so camo was silly.
@SatsumaTengu14
@SatsumaTengu14 5 жыл бұрын
As a USAF veteran all I can say is thank God this happened after my time. What a stupid waste of money. I loved the line fashion over function. Says it all right there.
@danvanhoose6783
@danvanhoose6783 5 жыл бұрын
When I was in, you had a choice of green or green.blue name tags,
@donovannotmyname7306
@donovannotmyname7306 Жыл бұрын
Ngl a digital tigerstripe patterned for woodland and desert would've been nice
@Rafaxx9xj6zs1o
@Rafaxx9xj6zs1o 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Lackland is where I live in San Antonio Texas
@tylerwallace4185
@tylerwallace4185 5 жыл бұрын
ABUs aee also worn by cadet members of the Civil Air Patrol or CAP. BDUs are still in Regulation but are in the process of being fazed out. It truly is a shame that the US switched out of BDUs when they did though
@NOLIBERALBIAS
@NOLIBERALBIAS 4 жыл бұрын
Video is educational. It helps me shopping on Ebay
@michaelsudsysutherland5353
@michaelsudsysutherland5353 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Only second worst (blue tiger stripe)... I was one of the 3% who had to find another uniform.... Not that it was much better using Army UCP ACU... but hey, at least I blended with soldiers and wasn't as much a sniper target! At least hey eventually went with UCP colors for that 'blending' with other forces.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the blueberry tigerstripe in the Air Force Times and thought it was the stupidest thing I'd seen. By the time the ABU came out, I was just glad that I wouldn't have to wear a pattern that the higher-ups claimed was perfect for night time camouflage, and to just disregard any attention I'd draw at any other time.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
Also, when I got home I went to see Iron Man in theaters. In the film, one of the Five Rings guys has an ABU pattern Gortex jacket, which made me laugh when I saw it. The reason being that nobody I knew had been issued a jacket in that pattern, and we'd just been given old DCU rain and cold gear. So the terrorists in the MCU were better equipped than we were in real life.
@Dr.Liwsy.
@Dr.Liwsy. Жыл бұрын
3:44 OMG!!!! Air force command center from Red Alert 2! It's real. My life never be like before....
@makukawakami
@makukawakami 3 жыл бұрын
now make a video about the effective tiger stripe tha was used in Nam
@JangoPeppers
@JangoPeppers 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god we adopted the Army’s OCP. Way more comfortable and better looking.
@ragingforeskin5735
@ragingforeskin5735 5 жыл бұрын
The Air Force and the Navy always seem to have issues when it comes to camouflage uniforms
@TaKevinT
@TaKevinT 5 жыл бұрын
They're not sure what shade of blue to use.
@prodigy-hu6dy
@prodigy-hu6dy 5 жыл бұрын
I wish the Air Force had stuck with woodland and the black boots. They’d look unique and distinctive from the other branches had they just stuck with it.
@elCapitan007
@elCapitan007 Жыл бұрын
where can i find some ABU for cheap? I've got some dyeing ideas
@Bruno_bm151
@Bruno_bm151 Жыл бұрын
There is a lot on eBay
@stonewall11b1984
@stonewall11b1984 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked, all branches of the military fight on the same planet...but that’s none of my business.
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