The History of: The US Army Multicam, OEF-CP & Operational Combat Pattern (OCP) | Uniform History

[@arkadeepkundu4729]

_Imagine developing an useful camo but having it rejected in favor of the UCP. And then seeing the soldiers use your your camo pattern over UCP by buying it off the civilian market._ *Cryes with precision*

[@arpioisme]

Crye precision in the 2002 test was failed successfully

[@I..cast..fireball]

Then having army rip off your pattern to avoid 1% commission.

[@bearjew05]

We used to soak our UCP in coffee and spray paint them in AFG so Taliban couldn't spot us in the Orchards in the Arghandab. We were so happy to get OCP half way in the deployment.

[@Xpistos510]

BuT iS tHaT aUtHoRiZeD?

[@alexmurphy4323]

Where'd you get all that coffee? The DFAC?

[@stevenrodriguez763]

@@alexmurphy4323 save up enough instants, dump em in a bucked or something.

[@JEB66]

You're lucky the army let you do that then gave you new shit in country. The marines are a different story.

[@E_Legal_Alien]

@@JEB66 Marines get Army surplus

[@VenomSnake420]

Listen men, this is a SNEAKING mission. *Tears Velcro open*

[@Nobody-dm2ol]

Any chance you know the movie where the guy throws the camo in the trash at 1:50?

[@cenata]

@@Nobody-dm2ol Parks and Recreation

[@Nobody-dm2ol]

@@cenata Nice one bro

[@GruntProof]

I just gave the only review by a Soldier on the UCP. If your velcro is giving away your position: 1. They are too close to you (fail) 2. If they are that close to you, you should not be fumbling with your velcro

[@jogador133]

Kept you waiting, huh?

[@stevenm3823]

THIS is what the Army should have adopted back in 2006 over that awful "blend in with nothing" ACU pattern which was only useful if we decided to occupy the moon!

[@MrBioniclefan1]

I think it would been to stick with BDU and DCU

[@thefairylovesniper]

If you go here www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?/topic/51374-ghost-recon-heroes-unleashed/&page=44 and scroll down a bit. You will see it works great against gravel. But not much other besides a grandmothers sofa.

[@GTBANNA]

Think about all the soldiers that could’ve been alive today because of it.

[@vahebaldemian]

@@MrBioniclefan1 what was so wrong with M81 woodland and DCU in the first ace that we needed new camo? How can someone go with that horrendous ucp over M81 and DCU? What were they smoking?

[@MrBioniclefan1]

I said that they should keep the bdu and dcu

[@rurushu8094]

You know Crye did a good job when even the Russians are using it

[@anarchyandempires5452]

Considering that the camo they used before this one was Anime Highschool Girl's panties (AKA) White and blue stripes or nothing....I'm not sure their adoption proves all to much.

[@randomdude6249]

Anarchy Empire Yeah, the urban-style Russian DPM copy you’re talking about was only used by some OMON units, barely a fraction of the Russian forces.

[@crazymachinima1]

@@anarchyandempires5452 But your comment certainly proves your lack of knowledge. Russian Ground Forces mostly used the Flora pattern from 1998 and the EMR from 2011, look them up. You're refering to the urban DPM used by special police forces OMON. I mean, were you seriously thinking an entire land based military was running around in blue uniforms?

[@sayNotoBrooklyn83]

A person, probably we did! Acu blue mush

[@randomdude6249]

sayNotoBrooklyn83 Grandma’s couch camo

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I really Really like how OCP looks, it looks so classic and yet so modern....but most importantly it doesn't look like you had Skyrim Glitch out and freeze on your uniform.

[@isaacdepaula2103]

😂😂😂😂😂 that's a good definition for that shit, when i was 8 or 9 yo, and i saw the ACU for the first time i turn to my dad and said "Dad, is this US army are using now? Wtf is this shit?"

[@mdcclxxxi8509]

M81 way better

[@BlackKatZz]

The Glitch version of multicam is the Us4ces i love that one

[@TheRomanTribune]

Prefer air force ABU tiger

[@abbcc5996]

@@mdcclxxxi8509 1942 frogskin > > > us woodland > > > multicam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ucp

[@TheEleutheromaniac20]

Soooo, basically crye made multicam and then everyone ripped them off...

[@lkvideos7181]

*Adopted ..... not "ripped off"

[@FDNY101202]

You forgot the part where they were passed up only to basically be adopted twice nearly a decade later...

[@gtfkt]

Kinda like Canada with Cadpat.

[@G1NZOU]

The UK didn't rip it off, MultiCam performed best in the UK's testing so the MoD approached Crye to co-design a UK specific variant of MultiCam incorporating DPM shapes into the pattern. Similar situation with Australia I believe. New Zealand have recently announced their pixelated multi terrain pattern is being replaced by a darker colouration variant of British MTP, called NZMTP. One of the major companies that did rip off multicam is Russia, but they rip off everything, they've copied Flecktarn, US Woodland, A-TACS, and even Finland's M05 pattern but they pretend they didn't.

[@unmovable1]

It all starts in an officers ballsack.

[@psybain]

The best part about the army wasting billions of dollars to just go to scorpion w2 is they paid even more to have a camo pattern that's less effective than multicam.

[@G1NZOU]

Technically they paid less, since they own Scorpion W2 they save on royalties, granted it's a small saving but they're not paying more. Multicam OEF-CP was an interim solution so they didn't purchase that many of them, just enough to equip the deployed troops, to outfit the rest of the Army (and the Air Force in due course) would mean printing a ton more fabric, and that royalty cost creeps up. The real waste was UCP, Scorpion W2 may be slightly less effective than actual MultiCam but in reality it's pretty much just as good, the detection scores weren't that much lower and the colouration of Scorpion W2 is close enough to MultiCam that it can be used with compatible gear.

[@Fede_uyz]

Yeah, as the other guy said w2 did cost a bit more upfront but they will save up in the long term. And thanks to the UCP ABU debucle, congress is not gonna authorize any new camouflage pattern any time soon. They just need to develop a more arid version, maybe taking OCP and making all colors tans and coyote, while increasint the size slightly.

[@Nick7380]

Such a drastic improvement over the ACU, God I HATED that uniform, the OCP is a very nice and clean looking uniform and if you do get them I recommend getting your rank and name tapes sewn on as its a much better look than having the crumpled up burnt bacon name tapes.

[@jameslynn7271]

Everyone hated that uniform. I was issuing BDUs to most of our special ops teams because ACU was such a cluster...

[@outerheavenpaintball]

Dude, I'm a military historian and look at this stuff for my blog work and I must say that this is the most informative I've seen. Thank you so Very much. As your video work on these uniforms evolves, add in as much detail as possible because the devil is in the details :)

[@patrickturner2101]

yeah? Haha are you payed to be a historian

[@nickryan4975]

I know I’m 2 years too late, but the Australian AMP uniform was an Afghan and Iraq specific uniform designed by Crye precision for the ADF . It was never intended to replace DPCU. DPCU has since been replaced by AMCU or the Australian Multicam Camouflage Uniform which is essentially a Multicam pattern with DPCU colours.

[@abbcc5996]

im pretty sure that australia is more arid compared to afghanistan is it not? apart from the summer green heavy camo would work better there

[@lib556]

Interesting. I was a foreigner attached to US 10 Mtn Div in Afghanistan in 2010. They were the first to be wearing OEF MC. Some guys were already in location (working with UK 6 Div) and they were in UCP. They eventually transitioned. Then one day I saw an Aussie in MC despite the rest of the contingent being in their pinkish bunny cam. He was SASR and said they were all wearing it. Then the Brits in the HQ all switched to UK MTP virtually overnight. Seemed to be a trend. An American friend mentioned that the uniforms were tightly controlled and they'd have to turn them all in immediately on returning to CONUS. In my country (Canada) our counter terr group and the Special Operations Regt wear MC while deployed. The way we're going with this (and France switching to HK 416s) all the free world will be wearing a similar uniform and carrying an AR variant rifle...

[@jeffreyroot6300]

libertarian45 All in the family!

[@mathias2992]

Just a repeat of history. Militaries tend to copy each other repeatedly. The Mauser rifle and copies, the French Kepi, the German spiked helmet was popular at one time. There will be another trend and phase soon enough.

[@redishina]

Nothing wrong with allied nations using similar gear. Helps lower costs through scale of production and ease logistics as well. As long as its good gear then adopting standards is ideal.

[@kimjongun2536]

yeah mtp was first trialed by troops in Afghan , it was originally made in Soldier95 uniform cut which was the uniform cut of DPM , like how OEFCP was multicam in ACU cut . Then around 2013 it was fully released to all troops in PCS cut.

[@LongRangeDesertGroupX]

When I joined the Army in early 2006 BDU's were still being worn until 2007 but we were issued a mix of ACU and BDU's. When I deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 we got Multicam uniforms and when I was getting out in 2014 was around the time they were designing and I believe some units got the new Scorpion design. Its crazy just in 8 years how there had been 4 complete redesigns on camo lol. I'm sure they will change the pattern again in another 3 years.

[@Fede_uyz]

OCP (either variant) truly looks like the true heir of the BDU's but adapted to the 21 century army and combat. it truly looks like an army uniform. In my country the army picked up an acu style uniform but in colors closer to ocp, whereas the swat forces of the police picked up an acu rip off, which is much more understandable, since ACU looks much more like an urban pattern than a wilderness one

[@sparta2705]

I still prefer woodland BDUs.

[@Fede_uyz]

@@sparta2705 i like OCP and multicap, woodland at least to me requires much denser vegetation than ocp / multicam

[@sparta2705]

@@Fede_uyz I can see that. I guess I'm just partial. It is basically the standard uniform of the militia movement t if we ever had one.

[@RedDawnSaved]

OEF-CP will be the RDF ERDL surplus piece of our age. Change my mind.

[@patriot1525]

My dad hated UCP. In fact, he hated not just the pattern, but the way the uniform was. He stated that his 3-color arid 'Coffee Stain' was lighter and helped him with the heated environments a lot better.

[@betancourt10fitness54]

Maybe even talk about the new Army Jungle uniform

[@johnbright191]

That would cool. Like to see that pattern.

[@9965paul]

John Bright it’s already out there’s no new camo pattern just a change of the uniform itself

[@easucks1776]

Nothing changed with the camo

[@9965paul]

EA sucks fuck EA

[@dethofgod666]

@@easucks1776 it's a lighter material with a different cut and it's missing pockets

[@toanomega]

I remember going to basic and seeing the OCP pattern and I fell in love with it. I, along other trainees and Drill Sergeants, agreed that the UCP camo was ineffective in a lot of locations. I tested how well the OCP can hide a person once during one of our FTX and volunteered to be OPFOR for the training. I hid in tall grass and dirt that had dead leaves on it and the BLUFOR trainees just walked on by me while I just laid there on my elbows watching them. They came into contact with the other OPFOR guy and they took cover near me. Needless to say they had a long discussion with the Drill about situational awareness. I saw it as the OCP being effective.

[@jacobleukus6930]

Grape Kun I bet you were the first guy to pick up your Drill Sergeant’s hat for him too

[@swin4991]

Grape Kun what a nerd!

[@jacobleukus6930]

gaston ski dats ma boi big Ski!!! Get em

[@savagecub]

This is way better than the ACU pattern we had before. But an even better pattern was invented back in the 80’s called ASAT - for All Seasons All Terrain. The problem with most camo patterns is that from any great distance the individual pattern can’t be distinguished they tend to just “blob” into a general shape. Take a picture of two people standing next to each other from say 300 meters - have one person in multicam and the other in ASAT. From any great distance you can easily see the superiority of ASAT.

[@albmartinez314]

Ever thought about doing a video on the history of MOLLE gear? That would be a good one

[@vinlandwerwolf]

Wow SSG Pries at 3:52 just retired from my unit, that man is a legend.

[@patrickturner2101]

his head gear looks retarded

[@chillios2222]

Saw some comments about woodland and desert, we pretty much had workable patterns for different theatres of war , I do think though the flame proof or flame resist was and is very important

[@tacocat0436]

Bruh it'd be so cool if the US was wearing Krytek, they'd be looking like snakes

[@xavierprotocols]

COOOOOOOOOBRAAAAAAAA!!!

[@king-of-memes6712]

If I remembered correctly, Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Patternwas always called OCP back in the days until the current OCP was adopted.

[@oldplace5]

Been in the field a few times with this pattern, it is far better that the digital ACU. The removal of the velcro and addition of buttons make it hardier too. I’ve had trouble spotting people about 200 meters out and I have 20, 20 vision.

[@robbabcock_]

These videos are surprisingly fascinating! Thanks!

[@tristanwilliamson2382]

Bring back multicam and the original uniform cut!!!

[@lkvideos7181]

You forgot Georgia. It's the 2nd or 3rd country after the USA that adopted multicam for the entire armed forces and law enforcement.

[@pesim100]

Brilliant channel. I have not discovered anything similar to this. I would appreciate videos about British MTP, French camouflage pattern, Izraeli camouflage pattern and of course some confrontation to C.P. Multicam.

[@n.i.t.f919]

Man...the army has made so many uniforms

[@FDNY101202]

* *laughs in navy* *

[@Clay3613]

Gotta justify that military budget!

[@joeyjones9041]

@gillecroisd 92 honestly I'm surprised the military hasn't switched to stainless steel Nalgene water bottles with nesting cups already. It's just an evolution of the canteen. There's even MOLLE pouches for them made by various companies like Condor and Maxpedition

[@mickeyg7219]

Well, they only made a few of each for the test, it doesn't cost much, even for an average income-earner standard, to print a uniform. In masses, the US Army usually only use two patterns (desert/tan and olive green). They only have one when the UCP was a standard. Now they're going with three colors - transitional, woodland, and desert. The current Scorpion camo is a transitional pattern, which excels a dry environment with a lot of vegetation.

[@quickscopeoneeighty9158]

Only the Army can make varied decisions on operational equipment (i.e. uniforms, gear carriers, firearms, vehicles, GPS equipment, ect.)

[@sebaaguirre544]

Excellent video!! I'm Argentinian troop. We also use a variety of Multicam (copy) bought to Norinco ltd China, is very similar and is called UCA, Uniforme de Combate Argentino. Is good enought.

[@richhoule3462]

Very informative series. Subbed and liked. Please do Woodland BDUs

[@edhowe5089]

I added a subdued snap to the center of the ACU combat pants large leg pocket because the velcro alone could not hold the pants pocket closed securely esp when the velcro became worn. I am not a big fan of the slant pockets on the shirt from on the ACU uniforms. I like the old square pockets of the earlier bdu uniform but secure with velcro because buttons would be too bulky under body armor or load bearing vest. Apparently one of the new uniforms tested dropped the shirt chest pockets completely.

[@9965paul]

When the recommended list actually works for once

[@calvinhuddleston576]

2:55 im in the military wearing the uniform and only now did i just find out what those little tabs on our shoulders are

[@redbeard9136]

You could sell me canned farts as long as the can comes in multicam.

[@TheAMcDoom]

Please do the British Camo patterns. Mostly the woodland DPMs, desert DPMs, and the new MTP both the old style MTP and new PCS-CU MTP.

[@ebinecksdee9872]

One of my MTIs wore OEF-CP. Everyone in my flight asked him why his uniform looked off.

[@mzmadmike]

This is a fantastic channel. Keep on.

[@foxhoundr3364]

Great vid mate, As a former Royal Australian Regiment member of 17yrs I have found this subject really interesting. Cheers 🇦🇺🇺🇸

[@jesusmarywillsaveyou]

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[@janpiotrowski8893]

1:30 It's Pattern SG 14 used by Polish Board Guard. "Suez" is weared by Polish Army Special Forces, while rest of the army still uses wz.93 "Pantera" ;) Great channel btw ;D

[@BarrowX]

Hungary's 15M uniform also have Multicam like coloration.

[@harosokman]

Just for consistency, the video footage of the Aussie is actually wearing AMP, or Australian Multicam Pattern, which is a modified multicam (the new pattern with slight bunny features) but still with multicam colours. AMCU, or Australian Multicam Camouflage Uniform, takes AMP, and applies the typical colorway of DPCU,.

[@messmeister92]

Brookwood Covert Arid is really cool

[@sharkfinbite]

I always assumed the ucp uniform was more efficient because it was using pixels to mess with the idea more. the eye naturally tries to create order and shapes out of anything and it causes illusions. I thought the pixels would cause from far away another's eye to suffer from this scattered effect to cause a illusion helping to conceal them. I guess I was wrong. It wasn't a bad Idea on paper honestly. We use pixels all the time and it does so. I guess for camo you must use more Earthy visuals and not computer instead.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

The Soviet solnechnye zaychiki, the original light version anyways, has squared edge patterns and seems rather good for deciduous environments.

[@brassvulcher8207]

In desert and most open field especially arid areas I have seen multicam silhouette its self appearing too dark, surprisingly as weird as UCP looks up close further out it’s actually effective

[@Alphonselle]

that's why there are multicam black and arid version.

[@brassvulcher8207]

@@Alphonselle Multi blk is for ghay clubs

[@abbcc5996]

@@Alphonselle multicam black is a fashion statement its not meant to conceal you

[@iceturtle-nb6rc]

I like the Mandarin collar

[@gae_wead_dad_6914]

Yeah, kinda a shame that it goes... but i guess it did get in the way of the neck

[@ΘΕΟΦΑΝΩΚΟΜΝΗΝΟΣ]

7:58 it will replace the MARPAT?

[@ΘΕΟΦΑΝΩΚΟΜΝΗΝΟΣ]

@MSGTsniper Guy don't think so

[@ΘΕΟΦΑΝΩΚΟΜΝΗΝΟΣ]

@MSGTsniper Guy MARPAT its an trulie good uniform

[@hellbreaksloose5536]

Over my dead body.

[@ΘΕΟΦΑΝΩΚΟΜΝΗΝΟΣ]

@@hellbreaksloose5536yeah jaja

[@alexllamas7634]

@MSGTsniper Guy They already get the army's old garbage lol.

[@Themichaelwesten]

When can we expect the M81 Woodland (AKA Gods Plaid) video

[@mecordovado]

Hi, can someone provide a source for the woodland/jungle and desert ocp variants that were announced, I’ve been researching on my own for a while and haven’t found anything about them and am curious to learn more.

[@dominikwolf1660]

Outstandig Viedo. Thanks you. Very knowledgeable! Thats help me out a loot. PS : Do you think to get a German Camofage Pattern Viedo in the future? Greetings form Heidelberg Germany 😊 🍺

[@johnrodriguez7742]

Information and Intelligence (I2) of US Army Uniforms that educate and edify Myself as a proud and patriotic Veteran of The United States Marine Corps and Army.🇺🇸🗽🦅🔫

[@lorrewatkins5925]

Is it possible for u to make a vid on both the so called dessert chocolate- chip and the so called beanies ?

[@marcoarmoir4875]

If you can, please talk about the italian vegetato camouflage pattern

[@MichaelR58]

Thanks for sharing and all your research !

[@themistakingcone]

Very informative 👍

[@BTandfamily]

I am looking for the Crye Multicam NON "Scorpion". Where's the best place or is there another for desert conditions that will perform the same/better?

[@Fight4MyCountry]

So does any military actually use Crye's MCAM pattern? Or is that just limited to civilian use

[@abp1400]

A lot of US SOCOM units use commercial off-the-shelf Multicam uniforms and combat shirts sold by Crye itself.

[@Fight4MyCountry]

@@abp1400 ahh ok, cheers for the clarification

[@ulyssesfraser3080]

Clinton Oh sf uses it

[@AirsoftReviewArgentina]

Denmark, most likely

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

A lot of militaries around the world uses Multicam. Search up "multicam" on Camopedia, and you'll see how many armed forces in the world use it.

[@codygreene9067]

The US military’s stupidity never ceases to amaze me. I remember when I went through basic we had UCP. On the land nav course at Benning some of the instructors were wearing old BDUs and they were incredibly hard to see in the forest environment. All the recruits walking around in UCP were immediately noticeable even at far distances. Furthermore the fact that the Army was already using multicam in Afghanistan when they held the camo contest and then decided for a second time against issuing it to the entire force makes my head hurt.

[@breizhrudie4757]

2:42 'oh-yeah-CP'

[@hk4lyfe59]

Anyone who has ever used faded OCP in very green environments knows it looks like desert camo in the jungle and sticks out like a sore thumb. Its great when its fresh, but when it fades, its awful. The whole pattern needs to be a shade or two darker in order for it to last as a true "universal" camo pattern IMO.

[@JohnSmithWesson]

it depends, sometimes Multicam/OCP/MTP gets dirty and brownish so it's very good kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnipgIeIf9GkY9ksi=pBG3iS6hCQQJUD5x&t=207

[@braunofalltrades93]

I know people that got out of the military at least in part becasue they didnt want to die because of UCP

[@gunslinger1824]

Marines got it right with marpat

[@zotanzero]

Yeah, how tf did they score so low on that test?

[@Xpistos510]

Yeah but they screwed over the other branches by embedding "USMC" into the pattern and essentially making it their own pattern.

[@mardiffv.8775]

Marpat is good, but expensive, since 2 patterns per Marine have to be issued. Both woodland Marpat and Desert Marpat, that is 6 set of uniform in total. The Army only wants to issue 3 sets per soldier, so 1 universal pattern OCP was chosen. Also multicam/ OCP became popular, because a patrol could face 4 different terrains in 1 day: mountain, desert, woodland and urban. So a Jack of all trades, eehhh terrains was necessary. See this video clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWbapICmgK-fi6M

[@starwraithspacemarine8605]

Both types remind me of the leafy camo worn by the USMC on the helmet covers in WW2.

[@betancourt10fitness54]

Awsome video. Im curious about the darker and lighter uniforms you mention. I know crye has the mulitcam tropic and mulitcam arid, maybe close to the same thing in the future?

[@kalebnolen1616]

I know it isnt a Camo, but if you could do a video on the Canadian Mounties. As an American from the south, never got to see any except in the movies not too much info I can find be neat to see if they do their uniforms like the Royal Guard and their buttons all mean something.

[@nikofreeman5696]

Спасибо за отличное видео, мужик! Все понятно и информативно. Без тебя бы не разобрался.)

[@karolagosz726]

You've mentioned Suez pattern- its unlicenced copy of MC issued to special forces and (i've heard some rumours) some combat units in Afghanistan. First uniform pic is new camo based on MC created for the border guards recently, while the second pic is actual Suez.

[@deutchensoldaten8959]

I’m confused when I was in army jrotc I was issued UCP but my trouser cargo pockets had buttons instead of Velcro but why can anyone answer this question

[@denno3124]

The uniforms changed. Old ones had velcro. ACUs kept being updated to mirror more and more similarly to the previous uniforms i.e. sew ons and buttons. Velcro sucks on the duty uniform.

[@deutchensoldaten8959]

MrDen312 yeah the Velcro did suck especially when you would be in the field and it would snag on branches and that makes more sense now thanks for the answer

[@JP-wk7cc]

@@denno3124 the exception is that I did like velcro for the wrist cuffs. I'm in between where the buttons are placed. Also the velcro made it easier to accomodate a watch.

[@thelegendaryt-rex4763]

Army: *Uses OCPs* Marine Corps: *Laughs in Marpats*

[@rmc_reenacting]

Do DPM or MTP next

[@duecebigalowmalegigalow6332]

7:54 does anyone have a link to the video?

[@sharkfinbite]

I can see why someone would think it might be a good idea to have a pattern design to use universally, and all you need to do is change the colors pattern. It would save time making a design when all you have to do is make everything pixelated and tell a computer to make a pattern color for the new environment. The problem is... nature tells us this is a bad idea. You can't make a universial pattern. Everything must be specialized for the location and task you are doing specifically. Just look at gators , black bears, cougar, tigers, and etc. for proof. You must allow specialization.

[@ricardot729]

UCP looks useful in an futuristic urban environment where everything is grey and shiny

[@ReyShady05]

Great video

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

The Army: We need new uniforms. Congress: We need to be fiscally responsible. Make sure you do it right. Also The Army: We did an oopsie and need new uniforms again.

[@chillios2222]

Why did we as soldiers all realize that ACU had no point ?

[@jeffreyroot6300]

Roger Childs common sense.

[@nbpanthers]

imagine if all over brush was ever adopted by the US I think we should've done it, looks way better than any digital camo

[@pineappledonut5011]

I always thought the whole ww2 German Wehrmacht and SS splinter pattern and 44 dot and the rest of the camouflages were good and very innovative. Have we considered their patterns? Or ideas of how they came up with those patterns?

[@UniformHistory]

ANTICOMM many people consider Scorpion to be a sort of successor to some of the German patterns seen throughout WWII as it mimics some of the shapes and ideas behind them. They did pretty much jumpstart the whole idea behind a lot of camouflage today as far as their testing and research so even though the US doesn’t directly use any from then a lot of what has been used can be sourced back to Germany.

[@TheMylittletony]

Some of the ww2 German camo's were designed by a landscape painter.

[@abbcc5996]

@@UniformHistory multicam has a background of large blobs of macro pattern with a micropattern of dots on top of it. it pretty much follows the waffen ss formula of camo design

[@mugofbrown6234]

Can you do a video on HM Forces combat jackets? I used to have a DPM one that I regret giving up (why did I do that?) I now have an MTP one for photography and dog training. As a civvy I love the cut of it, it's just so flipping useful. Who designed it? Have other nations adopted it in their own colours?

[@kimjongun2536]

Smocks are onlt really used by British Army and Irish Defence Forces

[@lorrewatkins5925]

Great Job !

[@qzma82]

7:50 nobody ask what is DTC No.2? Scored second...

[@Tounushi]

This is one of the funniest things when it comes to US military procurement decisions. It's like so many other mistakes the US military has made. Forcing 7.62mmNATO is another one, and they partially replaced that with 5.56mmNATO when they noticed 7.62 (a derivative of .30-06) was too heavy to carry in adequate quantities and too powerful for the expected engagement ranges (something EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAD CONCLUDED after WWII with their old rifle cartridges). The decision to make the M1 carbine semi-auto-only, even though it would arguably have been the first assault rifle in widespread use. The decision to make M1 Garand use en-bloc clips instead of detachable magazines, even though this was an option. The entire initial process of adopting the M-16... And I'm certain there are numerous others, but can't summon them from memory...

[@kyranhambly3526]

they made the creators of the fn fal change the calibre to 308 then chose not to adopt it.

[@leonardwei3914]

M1 Carbine is fine as a semi-automatic. It's original role was supposed to be for support and specialized troops, not front line use that it slowly became accepted as. The full automatic setting didn't add much to the platform, not without some substantial redesigns needed. En bloc clips on the M1 Garand is fine, if you are going to stick with the 30-06 cartridge on semi-automatic rifle developed in the late 20's, early 30's.You can make the argument the M14 was basically a M1 Garand with a box magazine, and we all know how unsuccessful as an infantry rifle it turned out to be.

[@jeffreyroot6300]

The en-block system was a good logistical choice and more reliable than most magazines back then. It made little difference for practical rate of fire. And the M1 carbine design was a poor choice for full automatic. One of the other competitors for the contract was the Hyde Model 1, and was a superior design for select fire. That would have been an excellent basic weapon for light infantry, especially Airborne and Rangers,Raiders etc.

[@SayNoToDemocide1]

Where did you get the image at 6:09 from?

[@Phantom90622]

Where did you find the video at the start

[@saniaamirbaaz8850]

I play Roblox and a lot of the accessories and clothing with the OCP camo are labeled as MixPat, is that also a camo? Or is that just another name for OCP?.

[@myretroworld1121]

So what is the current uniform? OCP?

[@modern_shooting]

At 1:30 you showed a new camo for border guards. Its probably a mix of multicam and flectarn.

[@jeffreyflorez8756]

Does anyone know if the OEF-CP uniform tops and bottoms are authorized for use still or are they not allowed to be worn anymore at all?

[@coppertopv365]

Universal camp pattern - delta (Add green.. call it a day)

[@xavierprotocols]

Can you do the history of ATACS-FG, AU, and XS

[@rupvictoria3017]

Air Force took the OCPs and started issuing them in Air Force Basic Military Training to replace the ABUs in 2021 👍🏽

[@AJ-mb6ck]

I prefer m81 woodland and dcu , still a good pattern though

[@wothanar8516]

In the AF, got to say the Scorpion camo is a much needed change. The tiger stripe has no use, literally. Love the more work friendly advantages of the OCP, and the more Military look of it too. ABUs are ugly and too much like an office uniform. I get the chair force meme but most of my branch are mechanics. The Noner desk worker minority should not dictate the uniform of my branch.

[@jakeallen4191]

Putting the FLC over the IOTV will never cease to flip my anger switch. The whole point of the IOTV is that it comes apart in an emergency if you pull the cord in front. It absolutely defeats the purpose to put a vest on over that.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

Jake Wetuski How else would you recommend putting the FLC on?

[@thepiratepenguin4465]

Why was Atacs-AU never considered?

[@joebutta7539]

Most likely Digital Concealment Systems, LLC submitted camo but wanted more money than crye did for their patent initially so it wasn't considered for the contract. The original AU (Arid Urban) design HAS been tested by some US special operations personnel, and is also being fielded by special forces units of Afghanistan, along with their nemisis HyperStealth Biotech Group (had a big court battle over infringement) Also that "transition period" (where the new camo would be used with UCP) made it more difficult for the atacs family of camo to work well alongside of the UCP do to the large patterns utilized. I prefer the atacs-iX personally, but great family of camo no doubt. Russians are wearing nockoff ATACS in syria right now btw.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

Hated the ACUs big time! They sucked in Iraq. The only good thing was for uniform ID during daytime combat. All the old stuff we gave to the Iraqi Army and Police. I first saw the Multicam pattern back in 1999 at the SHOT show in Las Vegas. This was better than the BDU and DCU patterns. Multicam was used by the 173rd Airborne for experiments during that time in late 07-08. The guys in the Stan were issued this stuff late 08. I retired from the Army in 09 and never got issued the new OCP a.k.a Multicam US version.

[@DonnieCoron4do]

The US4CES from ATS Inc was good, Mexico marine corps adopted it, and now is known as the Marina Trans Jungle