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@thekingzhaul5914
@thekingzhaul5914 Жыл бұрын
For an universe where it's main appeal is being trapped with a horrible alien there's a surprising amount of lore
@Rodrigo_Vega
@Rodrigo_Vega Жыл бұрын
I think this is mostly from the RPG. Maybe some from the comics? I'm a long time fan of the Aliens lore and they were hardly ever bothered about the human political landscape other than "Big corporations do bad things". Countries and other large institutions were mostly hinted at, but rarely developed.
@Pathfinder118
@Pathfinder118 Жыл бұрын
@@Rodrigo_Vega alot also comes from the colonial marines book, that details how the USCM work and operate, their main enamy is the UPP who they constantly have skirmishes with.
@Aptonoth
@Aptonoth Жыл бұрын
@@Rodrigo_Vega Alien vs Predator is the series that builds up humans the most and has the most background. It's a little weird there hasn't been an avp game in an eon.
@stevengreen9536
@stevengreen9536 Жыл бұрын
@@Aptonoth That is because the last ones were not that good. The arcade game was AWESOME though.
@ValoTheBrute
@ValoTheBrute Жыл бұрын
​​@@Rodrigo_Vega specifically it was the cancelled alien 3 script from William Gibson that created a lot of it. And the colonial marine operations manual
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын
"Trust your enemy to be your enemy, but never trust your neighbor to be your friend." -- UPP saying (from Alien: The Roleplaying Game)
@thatkn1ghtguy942
@thatkn1ghtguy942 Жыл бұрын
"Always trust Jayjay" my mom just a minute ago
@pendragon0905
@pendragon0905 Жыл бұрын
Space Monster: In space, no one can hear you scream. Space Communist: I HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT MY CHAINS! Space Monster: 😱
@pendragon0905
@pendragon0905 Жыл бұрын
@LakenAnderson Then the Space Monster looks down to see a grenade in the dead Communist's hand... with the safety pin removed 💀
@randallrona9618
@randallrona9618 Жыл бұрын
​@@pendragon0905Space Monster: Sh*t. BOOM!!!
@spamviking
@spamviking Жыл бұрын
They truly escaped to the one place that hadn't been corrupted by capitalism... SPAAACE!
@plainlake
@plainlake Жыл бұрын
Although in alien it was very much corrupted by capitalism....
@TempoLOOKING
@TempoLOOKING Жыл бұрын
To hell comrades
@fastestfail2645
@fastestfail2645 Жыл бұрын
And they will ruin space like all commies do. Better dead then red
@ForeverTraitor
@ForeverTraitor Жыл бұрын
For those that don't know, one of the early screenplays of Alien 3 was about an arms race between the UPP and Weyland-Yutani who were both researching different xenomorph samples recovered from Bishop's body. Basically a Cold War analogy. I think there was a comic book adaptation of it recently too. Edit: also an audio version with the voices of Lance Heriksen and Michael Biehn which is pretty cool.
@Kalebfenoir
@Kalebfenoir Жыл бұрын
That would have been so much better than the "monks in space" story they did for Alien 3. I remember the interview where the plot writer was like "I had this idea of monks in space in a wooden boat, debating what is Evil and what is Good. So I changed the plot to get as close as I could to that." Or something. It was a horrible concept that resulted in an odd movie which killed off the survivors of Aliens, and only left Ripley.
@elroma7712
@elroma7712 Жыл бұрын
Yep William Gibson's Alien 3
@DaddyHensei
@DaddyHensei Жыл бұрын
Wished that script became the movie over what we got. Hoping for a do over in one of these years.
@philipped.r.6385
@philipped.r.6385 Жыл бұрын
That would have made a much better movie honestly.
@mr.commnad1144
@mr.commnad1144 Жыл бұрын
Blimey I had no idea the Alien universe was this vast! Im in love with the detail depth of this well crafted story
@ovaldreamx4397
@ovaldreamx4397 Жыл бұрын
Mostly of it is thanks to the Alien RPG. Both the core rulebook and the colonial marines module have a lot of the art used in this video and a LOT of lore. And its pretty solid too. Check chariot of the gods too, the first adventure on a trilogy, one of which is the destruction of the settlement mentioned at the end of the video.
@darthlazurus4382
@darthlazurus4382 Жыл бұрын
You can thank Dark Horse comics. They did a lot tae build up the universe. When Alien started up again with Prometheus that Lore was sorted, trimmed in some areas, grown in others. The UPP was first brought up in William Gibson's rejected Alien 3 script. I strongly recommend the RPG, as it is brimming with lore and worldbuilding.
@ovaldreamx4397
@ovaldreamx4397 Жыл бұрын
@@darthlazurus4382 I'm still new to the Alien universe beyond the movies so I haven't checked the comics yet. I know what I'll read next!
@WellBattle6
@WellBattle6 Жыл бұрын
Every gun has a good 20 sentences of lore.
@ovaldreamx4397
@ovaldreamx4397 Жыл бұрын
@@P2501-y6u I was just checking him out. Will highly recommend it to anyone from now on
@etanman4827
@etanman4827 Жыл бұрын
"For our demand most moderate are, We only want the Earth"- James Connolly
@talideon
@talideon Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Earth has not yet bent to the benign domination of Ireland, but we are are patient as we are loving of humanity. 😁
@casbot71
@casbot71 Жыл бұрын
In a way this explains one of the questions of the Alien Universe - _why wasn't information about the Xenomorphs and Predators general knowledge,_ just for self defence purposes. If a colony/ship knew the life cycle and capabilities of the Xenomorphs then infestations would be less likely (it's the learning curve that gets people killed), and the same when dealing with the Yutani. It's because various power blocks are hoping to leverage those species into being weaponised. In some of the expanded universe however, Xenomorph infestations become so common (due to nefarious Humans) that specialised squads and counter weapons become common as well.
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
Predator is not canon in alien universe. Aliens don't leave any witnesses)
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
Hadley's is hope destroyed, the alien from alien 3 movie was melted in iron, the aliens on the Sevastopol station fell down on a gas giant, and so go on, no witnesses
@Billy-ir4jc
@Billy-ir4jc 4 ай бұрын
@@АМС1313 it’s semi canon
@KristopherPrime
@KristopherPrime 3 ай бұрын
@@АМС1313 and yet, there is no reason for it (and AVP) to NOT be canon. Predator and AVP basically serve as the initial "little green men" experience for humanity. in all the movies, they DO live little to no witnesses beyond select agencies that know (compartmentalization) and the few individuals that bore witness. in short, the Predator and early xenomorph incidents you could say helped inspire the eventual attempts to weaponize the xenomorph and humanity's interest in the stars now that some people knew we weren't alone in the universe.
@somerandomdude7785
@somerandomdude7785 Жыл бұрын
Imagine an Alien movie or game involving the UPP instead of Weyland-Yutani.
@westphalianstallion4293
@westphalianstallion4293 Жыл бұрын
Didnt have AvP2 these weird russian guys?
@dheck1138
@dheck1138 Жыл бұрын
Check out William Gibson's screenplay of Alien 3, where the UPP is sourced from.
@AncientElectronics
@AncientElectronics Жыл бұрын
I think the UPP makes an appearance in Alien Infestation on the DS
@leonardorossi998
@leonardorossi998 Жыл бұрын
Android: "I would *love* to raise the crew from cryosleep to have them recover a dangerous alien egg from this planet... but I'm afraid that's against union laws" *roll end credits*
@EnclaveSOC-102
@EnclaveSOC-102 Жыл бұрын
@@westphalianstallion4293 you mean the Iron Bears? They were a private mercenry firm hired by Weyland-Yutani to augment the regular security forces on LV-1201 and we all know how that went.
@tigeriussvarne177
@tigeriussvarne177 Жыл бұрын
Starts singing the Internationale... or is it the Interplanetare?
@TheLostArchangel666
@TheLostArchangel666 Жыл бұрын
Oh if only the UPP wasn't yet another state socialist project doomed to failure due to its own internal contradictions... True communism cannot be imposed from the top down - only built from the ground up. ... Let no one build walls to divide us, walls of hatred not walls of stone.
@stephenwood6663
@stephenwood6663 Жыл бұрын
The Red Blok in AT43 called it the Intersidereal.
@Jesus_Offical
@Jesus_Offical Жыл бұрын
The interglactic
@cozmoknot
@cozmoknot Жыл бұрын
Wait a second.. you’re on to something🤯
@Banter07
@Banter07 11 ай бұрын
@@Jesus_OfficalThe Intergalacticale
@DragonActual
@DragonActual Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy seeing the ships each sci fi universe has to offer.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 Жыл бұрын
The socialism of the UPP sounds alot nicer than the capitalism of Weyland-Yutani.
@matejkubala7221
@matejkubala7221 Жыл бұрын
Workers of the galaxy, UNITE!
@TheLostArchangel666
@TheLostArchangel666 Жыл бұрын
Oh if only the UPP wasn't yet another state socialist project doomed to failure due to its own internal contradictions... True communism cannot be imposed from the top down - only built from the ground up.
@PaiSAMSEN
@PaiSAMSEN Жыл бұрын
You have nothing to lose but your restraining field.
@TheLostArchangel666
@TheLostArchangel666 Жыл бұрын
@@PaiSAMSEN "We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege and injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin.
@chimera9818
@chimera9818 Жыл бұрын
Better dead by the alien than red
@WolfeSaber
@WolfeSaber Жыл бұрын
Okay, Tyrant.
@Sephiroth144
@Sephiroth144 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the upcoming Three World Empire as well
@technomancer106
@technomancer106 Жыл бұрын
The rising sun never sets on the Three World Empire!
@nathanielbables8652
@nathanielbables8652 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Scylla_Charybdis
@Scylla_Charybdis Жыл бұрын
See I love the UPP because for once the bad guy space-leftists aren't ideologically a Stalinist caricature, they're much more realistic commies. The Space-AKs are cool too (SpAKs?)
@valiimper2609
@valiimper2609 Жыл бұрын
GLORY TO THE UNION OF PROGRESSIVE PEOPLES!!!
@Gamer1990100
@Gamer1990100 Жыл бұрын
So they're like The Federation of Planets just less advanced.
@mrXOwarrior
@mrXOwarrior Жыл бұрын
Well they think their the Marxist dream but really their a rotten core like the USSR or WarsawPact.
@cpte3729
@cpte3729 Жыл бұрын
the federation werent space stalinists they just outgrew capitalism
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
It's like if someone tried to create the Federation in a universe with no matter replicators, no friendly humanoid aliens and no apocalyptic catastrophe that brought humanity together, along with much harder laws of physics
@WilliamMosicki-Nystrom
@WilliamMosicki-Nystrom Жыл бұрын
Factions I would like to see next: 1. The United Americas | Alien/Predator Universe 2. The Union of Socialist Eurasia | 1984 3. The Camarilla | World of Darkness 4. The Republic of Gilead | The Handmaid's Tale 5. The Horde | World of Warcraft
@yukooomi
@yukooomi Жыл бұрын
Eurasia is from 1984, I believe?
@himynameisfelipe4042
@himynameisfelipe4042 Жыл бұрын
I think they already did the Horde. It is one of the oldest videos I believe.
@ryanhawe8234
@ryanhawe8234 Жыл бұрын
Here to cast another vote for the Camarilla. Both a world-spanning conspiracy and an incredibly limited village-style government coexisting with 20th/21st century politics....
@anarchosnowflakist786
@anarchosnowflakist786 Жыл бұрын
@@himynameisfelipe4042 it was the pilot for rivalries, more focused on the broader relationship between the alliance and horde, so I'd understand if people wanted a more detailed video
@cyantile5490
@cyantile5490 Жыл бұрын
Man would I love to see some stuff from Metal Gear, From XOF to MSF to FOXHOUND, it's a treasure trove of lore
@readingking1421
@readingking1421 Жыл бұрын
Well this was a wonderful surprise. For someone with no knowledge of the Alien Expanded Universe I am very much hoping for videos on the other nations mentioned here. (And for some reason I feel like Big Trouble in Little China would appeal to the Institute’s staff. Just a random thought)
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Жыл бұрын
I love the grounded and gritty feel of the Alien universe
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, its more realistic than star trek and other shiny sci fi things
@versace6609
@versace6609 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t Blade Runner part of this universe as well ?
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
@@versace6609 no, not officially
@XD-sc4ix
@XD-sc4ix 10 ай бұрын
Yeah what makes alien unique even after all this time is the aesthetics which somehow manages to perfectly combine retrofuturistism, modernish and futuristic aesthetics
@Billy-ir4jc
@Billy-ir4jc 4 ай бұрын
@@АМС1313 it has been confirmed by the director
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a country name Union of Progressive Socialist be UPS?
@stevengreen9536
@stevengreen9536 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see how the UPP handles a xenomorph outbreak in the expanded universe. Just to see it from their perspective.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
Maybe if a UPP colony got infested their interstellar government leaders would just send in a robot army. Then maybe they'd send the cadavers along with some live Aliens frozen inside converted refrigerated cargo trailers shipped by futuristic semi-ton trucks to a secret science research "city" they quickly set up in the Northern "Arctic" region of the planet. Most of the "buildings" would just be troop transport and bulk cargo spaceships along with some modular buildings that kind of resemble Soviet era mass produced buildings. This would look neat in a film. Also Khruschevka were made to be easy to build back in the 1950s, imagine how easy they'd be to build using modern technology and robot construction workers. Like maybe they'd mostly create platoons mostly of knock-off Working Joe style robots armed with like cheap body armour plates, steel helmets and shotguns. Like in real life the Soviet Union made knockoffs of lots of other countries technology that was more technologically primitive yet simpler to produce and in some cases way more rugged. Like look at the real life Soviet Union made ruggedised licensed Fiat car clones. Like imagine if an Alien film protagonist had to temporarily team up with some very physically tough yet terrifyingly mentally low functioning robots in order to survive. Or maybe ironically the UPP Working Joe knockoffs would just have like the intelligence of at least like a kind of dumb high school student or something because it would show that humorously even the "space communists" thought it was a dumb idea to save money and resources by making dumb robots that all share one Wi-Fi connected robot brain, especially since knockoff computer chips are probably not that expensive to make. Also it could be interesting to have talking robot characters in the Alien universe that are clearly not human at all. The Working Joe knockoff robots could be operating under the command of a handful of more intelligent human-like "Bishop like" robots. The "Bishop like" robots could be wielding like "forklift suits (i.e. Alien 2) with each suit equipped with automatic rifle and flamethrower attachments. They could be the creepy amoral scientists sent to study the Aliens and try to modify the Aliens into bio-weapons that can be easily controlled. Maybe a United Americas spaceship that was surveilling another planet gets infested with Aliens which leads to the crew dying, a handful of crewmates escaping in cryogenic life pods and and both the life pods and the ship crashing onto the UPP planet. Then the survivors get woken by the robots and told "you're at the newly founded Science City in the arctic region of the planet of Neo Russia, we confined the remaining Aliens here after they attacked Neo Moscow however now the Aliens are breaking out of captivity, also we don't much care for you spacemen since we believe you're responsible for this Alien infestation".
@stevengreen9536
@stevengreen9536 Жыл бұрын
@@SurprisinglyDeep Maybe but "IF" they thought they were responsible. Then the humans in charge would place them under arrest and order the bots to put them into custody. Although i believe the leader of that installation would soon realize that A. given the time that the infestation occured and the arrival of the colonial marine vessel it would be impossible. Then B. once the xenomorphs escaped containment. Both sides would have to help each other if they were going to survive and have any chance of saving the colony or escaping the facility alive.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
@@stevengreen9536 Very true. Also that'd be a cool plot. I'm just thinking that the colonists might blame the spacefarers because they assumed the spacefarers were mucking about with like what they'd assume was like the Aliens habitat or whatnot. (Like if a pedestrian sees a bunch of wild animals barking at someone else then it's be natural for the pedestrian to assume that the other person did something to warrant the animals anger.) Also it seems it's human nature to want to blame other people if a catastrophe causing loss of human life occurs, in an attempt to try and find an ordered pattern out of the chaos and to try to find a reason that the event was not just a senseless horrific random coincidence.
@stevengreen9536
@stevengreen9536 Жыл бұрын
@@SurprisinglyDeep I know but regardless of alliances,politics,etc. The smart individuals will put all that aside for awhile and realize they are in a crisis. Even enemies can temporarily work together to stay alive.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
@@stevengreen9536 Very true. It'd be dramatic if they argued for awhile before teaming up though.
@arbelico2
@arbelico2 Жыл бұрын
want a Colonial Marines TV series with : Aliens , Predators , Constructors , Synthetic Revealers , UPP , United Americas , The Three Worlds , and a bunch of other " baddies " .
@justinrice5405
@justinrice5405 Жыл бұрын
Love that the TTRPG came out and gave us an immense amount of lore. Workers of the Middle Heavens, Unite!
@gorvarhadgarson5227
@gorvarhadgarson5227 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the UPP! Space Soviets!
@mingchoi8369
@mingchoi8369 Жыл бұрын
Break the chains, comrades! Break the chains!!!! You know, if it weren't for supplementary media like RPG books, you might have forgotten that there's more to the Alien world besides hapless soldiers fighting unstoppable alien beasts. I hope you'll do a video on the Xenomorphs soon.
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman Жыл бұрын
Y'know, personally I feel the writers were a bit unimaginative by making the UPP economically very similar to the later Soviet Union with their more mixed economy- there have been many ideas regarding how computers, the internet, and AI can be incorporated into centralized economic planning since all the way back in the 1970s (see: Project Cybersyn in Chile) and it's something that I think would be really interesting to explore in a sci-fi setting.
@dominicsmith5588
@dominicsmith5588 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you there, I love For All Mankind and love the alternative history of the Soviet Union avoiding collapse and the Cold War extending into space but none the less cringed in the Red Wave short between seasons 2 and 3 that simply had the Soviet Union avoid bureaucratic stagnation though 'market reforms' like modern day China. Alongside the example you gave of Cybersyns you can go back even further to the early 50's and Cybernetics in the Soviet Union that while at first criticised by the conservative party leadership who feared that technological innovation could could disrupt their 'tried and tested' methods of crude, common economy, industrialisation, by the mid 50's moved into popularity as the abstract potential for computers to revolutionise economic planning began to be understood with their ability to instantaneously provide information for economic feedback mechanisms allowing the economy to overcome the so-called 'Socialist Transformation Problem' identified by the bourgeois economist Hayek of a lack of feedback once supply and demand are removed as regulating factors. The 2010 hybrid fiction/non-fiction collection of short stories, Red Plenty, written by the anti-socialist writer Francis Spufford that uses fictionalised for Francis to interject his views into the narrative with kind of fourth wall breaks where he addresses the audience, in spite of his intention to, at best, dismiss economic planning as a utopian dream, features a Soviet Cybersyn mathematician in the late 50's who was struggling against the government to realise socialism through computers, to quote the text directly, "He could see that this would not be possible under capitalism, where all the factories had separate owners, locked in wasteful competition with one another. There, nobody was in a position to think systematically. The capitalists would not be willing to share information about their operations; what would be in it for them? That was why capitalism was blind, why it groped and blundered. It was like an organism without a brain. But here it was possible to plan for the whole system at once. The economy was a clean sheet of paper on which reason was writing. So why not optimise it? All he would have to do was to persuade the appropriate authorities to listen. Suppose that the Soviet economy could be made to grow by an extra 3% a year - an extra 3% a year after year, compounded. It would mount up fast. After only a decade, the country would be half as rich again as it would have been otherwise." While Spufford's intention was to present such people as hopeless dreamers that were doomed to fail in the face of the conservatism of the Soviet state, even if you accept that as true and I think he was probably right as that initial conservatism of the late 50's and 60's turned into outright hostility when the party elite came to understand implementing such politics would destroy by redding them economically redundant, the millions of overpaid, corrupt state bureaucrats, they depended on as their social base to keep themselves in power, even then, it does not follow that such social and economic policies, if implemented in the early period of socialist regime, that is before the crystallisation of an entrenched state bureaucracy, such a socialist system might achieve a level of success economically while avoiding totalitarianism. The next most developed developed theoretical examination of the use of computers for socialist planning following the work around Cybersyn, that party builds of it alongside the limited exploration that did take place in the Soviet Union before it was side-lined can be found in the 1993 book, Towards a New Socialism, by Paul Cockshott and Allin F. Cotterll, the authors putting the book online themselves in 2000 to contribute to the wider theoretical regroupment of the socialist left following the complete ideological capture of the the overwhelming majority of the former communist and social-democratic movement by liberalism and neo-liberalism. So why the lack of imagination in future socialist societies with writers being so limited they are unable to look beyond a nostalgic, idealised version of European social democracy or a unconscious imitation of China when there is a wealth of material out there? I think it honestly just stems from the continued absolute domination of neo-liberal orthodoxy over the developed capitalist countries with no alternative economic system or even discussion being tolerated in the corporate media, education and the largest corporate funded academia. The writers simply can't conceptualise any alternative to the market. This is truly a shame and a loss for realising the limitless potential of fictional non-capitalist societies and civilisations but I honestly don't see this changing for the foreseeable future, at least in more mainstream fiction. For now, I would recommend the Culture novels by the science fiction author Ian M Banks for the best to date example of an intergalactic communist civilisation that has completely overcome the market economy even if the civilisation of The Culture is not without it's pit falls with the disproportionate power influence of The Minds, super advanced AI's, within it.
@technomancer106
@technomancer106 Жыл бұрын
I would do many things for a video on the Three World Empire :)
@WhiteScarsEmo
@WhiteScarsEmo Жыл бұрын
I still have a actual printed copy somewhere of "Aliens: RPG" by Leading Edge Games. I read that thing until it started to fall apart on me. I could never get my friends interested enough to play it and that was okay. I read it for the lore. 🙂
@alexernst9448
@alexernst9448 Жыл бұрын
Downloaded Fireteam Elite for the bug hunts, stayed for the lore drops.
@dustrider5274
@dustrider5274 Жыл бұрын
It was a fun new faction in the Alien 3 Audio drama. But the SSV Nikolai Stolko needs a redraw. The music it gets has such a strong presence!
@Emanon...
@Emanon... Жыл бұрын
That's another one for the "worst named sci fi nation", Marc!
@TemplinInstitute
@TemplinInstitute Жыл бұрын
oof, big time
@creepinjesus6888
@creepinjesus6888 Жыл бұрын
week ago i found out about the Alien extended universe and was like "I wish the Templin Institute would cover this"
@terrorcop101
@terrorcop101 Жыл бұрын
It's good to get some proper background info for one of the most popular horror franchises; makes me want to know more about this universe and whether or not the xenomorphs and Engineers have greater roles to play in it.
@mezarisage6055
@mezarisage6055 Жыл бұрын
I knew about the UPP from the aliens fireteam elite game, it's got a bunch of guns that originated from them, they're okay but personally I have a soft spot for three world empire gear.
@pablocastillo5074
@pablocastillo5074 8 ай бұрын
El arsenal de la UPP esta basado en las armas de la plataforma kalashnikov
@samthompson7568
@samthompson7568 Жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested in hearing about the Three Worlds Empire.
@NineWorldsFromDrew
@NineWorldsFromDrew Жыл бұрын
… And whatever rumours continue to pass through the vast depths of space, may simply not matter. Because in space, no-one can hear you scream.
@JackRabbit002
@JackRabbit002 Жыл бұрын
Huh!? This is in Alien lore I've always wanted to dive into that universe more, noticed they have a few books etc Didn't even know about this Nation, very cool!
@derektorres3092
@derektorres3092 Жыл бұрын
UPP let’s go Favorite alien faction Also weirdly its a union of Spain, Germany, and Russia
@stekra3159
@stekra3159 Жыл бұрын
EU collapse you woud wish.
@Notlordstark
@Notlordstark Жыл бұрын
A lot can happen in 85 years
@pdehoff1
@pdehoff1 Жыл бұрын
Kinda curious how France and Poland tolerate that... But, like the other guy said, 85 years is a long time.
@keatonburton6064
@keatonburton6064 Жыл бұрын
Now that you've finally started delving into the Alien universe, I want to see videos about the Yautja and Xenomorph races.
@403902
@403902 Жыл бұрын
Definitely, I've never gotten too into the lore but always wondered what contact Humans and Predators have had by the time of the second or third Alien movies - have they fought wars? Is there trade? A no-go zone? &c.
@dheck1138
@dheck1138 Жыл бұрын
AvP (and the Predators) aren't canon to the main Alien series.
@Kaosbunny000
@Kaosbunny000 Жыл бұрын
@@dheck1138yeah but they could just do videos about both in their own settings
@keatonburton6064
@keatonburton6064 Жыл бұрын
@@dheck1138 So what? This is the Alien Extended Universe I'm referring to.
@airsoft6147
@airsoft6147 Жыл бұрын
Ok this is weird, I literally just started playing Alien fire team elite for the first time last night and just heard about the Union for the first time while playing.
@NotPork
@NotPork 10 ай бұрын
please do more alien/bladerunner content
@grantmac9055
@grantmac9055 Жыл бұрын
Well done TI ! I’m not a big fan of anything outside the original trilogy, but I was fascinated with this.
@FallenEpic
@FallenEpic Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you didn't go for a simplistic, binary, or grim take on the UPP. Alien as a universe tends to delve into the lowest common denominator of grimdark cynicism to the point of (for me) literally laughable parody. But you presented the UPP with both its strengths and weaknesses, acknowledging that there's a nuance and complexity to them that neither redeems their failings or ignores their virtues (or those of their political adversaries). It made it feel like something real, like yeah I could see something like that happening.
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 Жыл бұрын
Union of Based Peoples.
@wishiwascooler
@wishiwascooler Жыл бұрын
This just made me think of Dawn of Victory, which just makes me sad that it never got released. But I'm still hopeful that we'll see something new someday!
@oimate4248
@oimate4248 Жыл бұрын
May we one day make the title of humanity worthy of the laurels and honor we laud upon it.
@tylercross8877
@tylercross8877 Жыл бұрын
I have a decent knowledge of the Alien extended universe but I don't remember hearing about this faction at all
@Rodrigo_Vega
@Rodrigo_Vega Жыл бұрын
I think it's much needed new political landscape writen for the tabletop RPG.
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai Жыл бұрын
@@Rodrigo_Vega Back when they made the first two films the soviet union was still a thing and pieces of script that ended up not making the cut mention them as a competing interstellar superpower. The UPP is just that idea revived and renamed to better fit into the future timeline.
@Rodrigo_Vega
@Rodrigo_Vega Жыл бұрын
@@GaldirEonai yea, the URSS shows up in a lot of sci-fi of the time, but some of this media was done well past that point. Today Aliens is almost "retrofuturism" It's 80s IN SPACE and this factions plays the part. Making the UPP into a rebranded URSS in space is perfectly serviceable in it's tropey-ness but a bit unoriginal and not particularly enthralling as commentary or speculation.
@kellyduggan2326
@kellyduggan2326 Жыл бұрын
love this channel, and loved how you show more of this Alien Universe
@mikeriley2475
@mikeriley2475 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully that new FX Alien TV show shows more of the Universe and world building!
@masterchief9177
@masterchief9177 Жыл бұрын
Man I wished the new upcoming strategy Alien game touches more in this lore or maybe a small/big active temporary play into the game. I feel like it's barely going to get touched upon just like how Alien fire team did. At the very least I love the lore within the Alien and Predator universe.
@taiko1237
@taiko1237 Жыл бұрын
"I'm going to the one place that hasn't yet been polluted by capitalism... SPACE!!!" yes i know space has been polluted by capitalism in this universe but whatever still a banger quote
@DarthChino1
@DarthChino1 Жыл бұрын
Way to wrap that up with a David quote. Well done.
@commanderpinnacles
@commanderpinnacles Жыл бұрын
Should do the Earth Defense Force! from the EDF Games!
@RHR199X
@RHR199X Жыл бұрын
So basically one xenomorph is all it takes for war to erupt across space
@Rand0m_Mex1can14
@Rand0m_Mex1can14 Жыл бұрын
Are they progressive?
@firstcynic92
@firstcynic92 Жыл бұрын
In exactly the same way the DPRK or GDR is/was democratic and a republic.
@SolarFlareAmerica
@SolarFlareAmerica Жыл бұрын
Somewhat? They're a relatively uninspired copy+paste of the IRL soviet union. Kinda boring honestly.
@randomka-52alligatorthatis34
@randomka-52alligatorthatis34 Жыл бұрын
They're "Progressive Socialist" I guess lol. Who knows? It's set in the far 22nd Century.
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
No, they are not so advanced as United Americas, but they have much more Human power
@IslamistSocialist371
@IslamistSocialist371 Жыл бұрын
Just like PRC who call themself democratics
@rtstrong
@rtstrong Жыл бұрын
“YOU DOWN WITH UPP?!!” “YEAH YOU KNOW ME!!!”
@knightbork
@knightbork Жыл бұрын
Love your stuff. I hope you guys will do something on 'The Last of Us', now that the season has ended.
@herrdoctor2895
@herrdoctor2895 Жыл бұрын
Union of Progressive People is a nice name
@marcello7781
@marcello7781 Жыл бұрын
UPP's Communauts.
@wittycognomen4931
@wittycognomen4931 Жыл бұрын
My humour has degraded so much, I giggled at U.P.P. You PeePee.
@FjongFleron
@FjongFleron Жыл бұрын
i never knew there was a extended universe until now
@michaelgray6429
@michaelgray6429 Жыл бұрын
I've always believed that the alien universe goes far beyond what the movies portrayed .
@adamm.6595
@adamm.6595 Жыл бұрын
Soldier, Outland, and Blade Runner are also in this universe, right? Or at least share a part of it?
@SuperGman117
@SuperGman117 Жыл бұрын
Only according to theorists. If you ask me, there are too many discrepancies, and they're extremely unlikely to ever cross over in an official capacity.
@adamm.6595
@adamm.6595 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperGman117 too bad they dont sit down and sort it out. Would be pretty awesome if they could somehow connect them. Maybe even add in Dredd universe somehow as well.
@SuperGman117
@SuperGman117 Жыл бұрын
@@adamm.6595 It would be cool. You could even throw Avatar in there. The deleted scenes that feature Earth are very classic cyberpunk.
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
@@adamm.6595 Officialy they said no. But also they said we can combine them if we want in our own headcanon, yeah the guy that look over the cannon in the 20 century fox said that we can create our own non official cannon
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Union of Progressive Peoples, also known as the Templin Institute.
@Linterna001
@Linterna001 Жыл бұрын
Wait, why?
@OfficialJohnnySinsGaming
@OfficialJohnnySinsGaming Жыл бұрын
Last I checked, they are non-partisan civilization researchers?
@mrdrprof8402
@mrdrprof8402 Жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh so that's what's UPP. Good video!
@alexanderhorwath506
@alexanderhorwath506 Жыл бұрын
Finally a universe in which Germany corrects, what is in ours long overdue: to become one of the Anarchist/Socialist/Communist strongholds and beacon of hope for all mankind... Something that would at least in theory lead to a Star Trek Utopia.
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
Took me 1:30 to realize that it's literally that Alien
@CzolgoszWorkinMan
@CzolgoszWorkinMan Жыл бұрын
the problem with capitalism is that you eventually run out of other people’s land
@ikergonzalezmartin2201
@ikergonzalezmartin2201 Жыл бұрын
Finally my countrie gets some camera (iam spanish)
@PHneverwhere
@PHneverwhere Жыл бұрын
"I will go to the place where capitalism wasn't conquered, TO SPACE"
@hecksters423
@hecksters423 Жыл бұрын
Cherdenko has found his home, apparently.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
Who's Cherdenko?
@adamcheklat7387
@adamcheklat7387 3 ай бұрын
@@SurprisinglyDeepPremier Cherdenko. The head honcho of the Soviet Union from Red Alert 3.
@nice3333333333
@nice3333333333 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about NanoTrasen from Space Station 13? Syndikate from same game would be most welcome too
@TheOneWhoMightBe
@TheOneWhoMightBe Жыл бұрын
Huh. I didn't know there was any real lore beyond the movies.
@JimmyAgent007
@JimmyAgent007 Жыл бұрын
Oof, for a moment, I thought this was one of the settings you were looking to create and thought, "Wow, that's uninspired." When do we hear more about that new project of yours? It sounds like my dream job to create something new like that. Are you looking for interns? lol
@pauljensen5699
@pauljensen5699 Жыл бұрын
Time for an Alien category in your playlists?
@fish_birb
@fish_birb Жыл бұрын
The State Security reminds me of the Stasi to an extent... "In space, no one can find out how they got that Lenin bust on their drawer."
@jesseberg3271
@jesseberg3271 Жыл бұрын
So, is this a novel series, an affiliated game, or did I miss a movie trilogy?
@DetectiveLance
@DetectiveLance Жыл бұрын
Novel series, tabletop rpg, some of the background lore in the video games
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
It was from the Aliens 3 script famed science fiction writer William Gibson wrote that was never used
@songjunw8981
@songjunw8981 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do "The Three Body Problem"
@DABViktor
@DABViktor Жыл бұрын
Thank you the Video and the English subtitle.
@StarlitJasmine
@StarlitJasmine Жыл бұрын
Love this narrator so much!
@MrSHADOWANGEL999
@MrSHADOWANGEL999 Жыл бұрын
Humanity repeats itself
@pdehoff1
@pdehoff1 Жыл бұрын
War never changes.
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo Жыл бұрын
Do the Three Worlds Empire
@ewok40k
@ewok40k Жыл бұрын
Interesting. While original movies had been focusing on the weyland - yutanni as megacorp Evil, the "space commies" look like nice alternative bad guys...
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 Жыл бұрын
So now there's not only Aliens, Predators and whatever those big fishmen from the Prometheus film are are called. There's also communists. That universe really walks around no rake.
@Tongzhi_BellaLabDog1995
@Tongzhi_BellaLabDog1995 Күн бұрын
The good guys in the Alien universe.
@ceccascorp8149
@ceccascorp8149 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, I just love the the details and arts
@iandaniel1748
@iandaniel1748 Жыл бұрын
I hope next t will be battle tech 😊
@silverstar8868
@silverstar8868 Жыл бұрын
What a name for an organization
@tylercross8877
@tylercross8877 Жыл бұрын
So, basically, they are just a revival of the Soviet Union.
@SolarFlareAmerica
@SolarFlareAmerica Жыл бұрын
Literally copied and pasted into sci fi. I'm sad, wish boomers had had more imagination, but I suppose this is cold war intoxication.
@SurprisinglyDeep
@SurprisinglyDeep Жыл бұрын
It's kind of different though. Like this video said the UPP is not actually trying to create a communist state, they're just trying to limit the power of the mega-corporations and give their people in general better living standards. So it's a government system made by well intentioned yet self aware cynical realists with a glass half full mentality made by people saying "we all know what happened with the Soviet Union and the other state communist countries, we all know that trying to make a truly communist state is a completely futile endeavour but let's not try and build an impossible stateless classless society, let's like just try and build a government that values what we think are good principles to live by in terms of a focus around socialism and create worlds where everyone has a decent standard of living". Like they could still be oppressive but thy might not be as bad as many state communist countries, like they probably wouldn't accuse anyone by saying "we accuse you of being a dirty pig dog capitalist" or "we accuse you of being one of the people trying to prevent the communist state from coming into being" but instead they'd probably say "we accuse you of being a selfish person who did something to put his own needs above those of others" even when the person had not done anything illegal. Also it's interesting in that in its struggle for power with United Americas and the Three World Empire the situation is kind of like the 18th century Age of Colonialism except if one of the "empires" was instead kind of like the Soviet Union instead.
@terranova1203
@terranova1203 Жыл бұрын
Please do more on the other factions!
@owenparris7490
@owenparris7490 Жыл бұрын
First learned about the Union from the Aliens RPG and they've become one of my favorite aspects of the universe!
@Adalore
@Adalore Жыл бұрын
Ehh. They are mutually exclusive. Every time a rising socialist government did halfies to play nice with the capitalists they get their reign knee capped by either the capitalists(capital strikes, after all it's still their property, they can withdraw using it.) themselves angry that they can't keep underpaying people or from capitalist nations over seas going full red scare "we gotta coup that before our citizens think it's viable. Just saying, there's a whole lot of Coups to install "market friendly" fascists into office. as I gesture aggressively at the banana wars. Goddamn banana wars.
@kirk7528
@kirk7528 Жыл бұрын
More aliens universe lore!
@ryankruchowski1951
@ryankruchowski1951 Жыл бұрын
I want to see the UA and the UPP fight. Along with the xenomorphs in the middle.
@АМС1313
@АМС1313 Жыл бұрын
Alien RPG scenario "destroyer of worlds" You can read it if you want
@Heretican
@Heretican Жыл бұрын
Do a video on the Three World Empire
@lordextinction8322
@lordextinction8322 Жыл бұрын
Does this mean we’ll get an Xenomorph video soon
@ThomFoolery12
@ThomFoolery12 Жыл бұрын
Further evidence that the aliens are actually not the most interesting thing in alien
@jazzbefos9303
@jazzbefos9303 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think I would like non-united Earth stories this much
@teddyn240
@teddyn240 Жыл бұрын
Please do CWCville from the Sonichu comics.
@phreakazoith2237
@phreakazoith2237 Жыл бұрын
Please make one about Futurama's Bender units. Development, which metals are they made of, seems to vary interior, cpu
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