Unique Rotating Single-Shot Percussion Rifle

[@seanjarnigan8978]

I would definitely watch "Hey guys take a look at this weird thing!"

[@masterofdesaster8]

Isn't that basically what Tom Scott does?

[@Mr.C710.]

@@masterofdesaster8 who?

[@Mr.C710.]

and i agree i love weird looking guns / weapons

[@masterofdesaster8]

@@Mr.C710. Tom Scott, british KZbinr, who basically travels around and makes videos in the style of "Hey guys, take a look at this thing" among other topics.

[@frbe0101]

"Hey guys lets look at every evolutionary dead in in gun design, look at this silly mechanism, is it not hypnotic? You know why this never took off, yet you now want one badly!"

[@aetius9]

Here's a theory: this weapon is designed to be on a stand or swivel, perhaps behind some kind of plate or protection. If you picture this gun clamped at the octagonal part to a swivel mount and secured using an L-bracket to the mount forward of the trigger guard, this design suddenly makes a LOT of sense. In such a position, muzzle-loading would not be possible but breaking the action and loading from the side would be perfect. The internal hammer and percussion cap system would minimize the amount of smoke from firing "inside", while also preventing any issues with the hammer getting caught on anything. This theory would also fit with the lack of provenance - if this was a custom gun dismounted from a larger device or system, it would be less likely to have unique markings.

[@zetoboogaloo8802]

Your theory is honestly very interesting.

[@Dovakhin94]

This makes a lot more sense

[@Krejza82]

It would even have nice rate of fire with 2 man crew.

[@Broken_Yugo]

You're sort of describing a "wall gun", but those are generally far larger, more of a shoulder fired mounted cannon.

[@davidbowman2716]

Like an M231 Firing Port Weapon?

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

Whoever made this gun probably had a lot of fun designing just the rotating/revolving barrel alone.

[@spacetexan1667]

I found the Masochist 😂

[@AsbestosMuffins]

its really well made for a one-off though

[@Matt-xc6sp]

No one had fun back then, they were too worried about dying from an infected splinter lol

[@spacetexan1667]

@@Matt-xc6sp no one had fun back then? Try to actually look into history please......

[@spacetexan1667]

@@Matt-xc6sp ps... how many times have you died from a splinter you never went to the hospital over?.... something tells me a splinter has literally never killed you....

[@1248dl]

Ian's enthusiastic personality aside, as an historian and engineer, this is the kind of stuff that is why I started watching.

[@doordieace5high]

Same here. Avid history buff and always loved the engineering aspect of technology over the years.

[@DarkestVampire92]

Suggestion: The useless holes drilled into the breech might be lightening the mass of it, since you dont need such a big, chunky, heavy breech for a single shot rifle but you do need its shape- Can't make it hollow easily, so you drill holes to make it lighter. Also the divet may be part of a spring-loaded latch/index that the thing on the bottom originally housed, which got lost over time.

[@Bigfoot42]

Exactly what I was thinking. It didn't look like there was any locking mechanism when Ian opened it. I suspect you would want something to make sure the hammer was aligned with the percussion cap, and the breech with the barrel. And the holes almost have to be for lightening as they are broken though to the outside of the part.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

Or maybe it was supposed to open different way for left hand/right hand shooters.

[@magnemoe1]

Agree, it was probably an ball or similar who was pushed up by an spring to semi lock this in place. Not sure if the hammer can be pull back unless barrel will line up with the breach. See some cutoffs who probably prevent the barrel to rotate then the hammer is cocked and would then prevent cocking it out of battery. Now had this been a bit more fancy it would have the rotation cock the hammer automatically, add rifling an you would had an very nice gun.

[@recurvestickerdragon]

Alternate theory: the gunsmith was working on a cylinder for a pinfire revolver, and only got 4 chambers in before accidentally damaging or miscutting the part's dimensions, etc. It went in the cutoffs bin for later repurposing, and was later rummaged out when planning the break-action. "I need something to drill a chamber in so I can break it open sideways... Hmm, this chunk is just about big enough, and these holes make it a bit lighter..."

[@RaphYkun]

I thought that too, except the main breach cylinder is actually locked to the stock/rifle mechanism by the 2 screws so it would never move relative to that screw cap. At least not in the current configuration.

[@funkla65]

It's a post ban turret rifle. Seriously though, that extra gizmo in front of the trigger guard may have been to house a ball detent to aid indexing the barrel to the chamber.

[@Jarlerus]

Just my thought.

[@Markolise442]

Ball detent is exactly what I was thinking

[@dashingdave2665]

Sure, It's pretty easy to tell when the barrel isn't aligned with the stock.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

Canadian legal turret rifle 🤣

[@markfergerson2145]

That would support the designer intending to make a turret gun with the nipples on the bottom or top, but then realizing the chambers were too small and saying to himself "aw hell, I'll just bore it through and make it single-shot" as Ian suggested.

[@overboss9599]

a weapon so forgotten even Ian Has No Idea What it is...

[@markhynes5160]

Those are the best kind. So much mystery.

[@Cheesytarian]

@@markhynes5160 I wish I could like your comment twice.

[@markhynes5160]

@@Cheesytarian thank you.

[@lizb7271]

"Hey guys, come take a look at this weird thing" is also the sister channel to "Ludicrously huge revolvers".

[@MesaperProductions]

Ian and Scott from KB are collaborating? Excellent!

[@rays.5764]

If Ian made a channel called, "Hey guys, take a look at this strange thing!" I'd subscribe.

[@steelcannibal]

I really kind of dig the concept. As apposed to a traditional "muzzle loader", you don't have to ram a projectile down the entire length of the barrel, less effort/energy expenditure, and if there's any question of it's being already loaded, you could just break the barrel and look in the rotating block.

[@karolisstankevicius6325]

also if you need to unload rifle and you don't want to shoot it it's a lot easier to do.

[@TheFanatical1]

Well, if you're going to make a breech-loader I think the Hall probably is a better way to go about it.

[@steelcannibal]

@@TheFanatical1 I was not familiar with the Hall, I just looked that up, that's a pretty cool action as well, thanks for pointing that out!

[@randomidiot8142]

@@TheFanatical1 the kammerladder (sp!) I think is a slightly more superior concept if not better mechanically. The opportunity for a better seal like a copper or brass ring to cam against makes it better than the Hall in my eyes. Imo.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Uh huh, keep saying it, you might believe it.

[@amendable5401]

“You would line this up with the little divot in the front.” I love how you give such inside knowledge just in case we ever get our turn to disassemble and reassemble this one of a kind firearm. Thanks for all you do Ian. It is very much appreciated.

[@bobjones5674]

"Hey guys, take a look at THIS weird thing!" All of his subscribers: "That's why I'm here."

[@pirig-gal]

It does look quite durable, and it's probably reliable too, with only a few moving parts.

[@sgas]

Yeah, easy to maintain maybe

[@waywardhorizons]

More durable than a more conventionally-styled breech-loader?

[@pirig-gal]

@@waywardhorizons Just look at the chamber wall thickness. Some of the mass is useless, but at the thinnest it's thicker than most breech-loading guns.

[@Cheesytarian]

@@waywardhorizons I would put this over the Ferguson rifle.kzbin.info/www/bejne/f52nZoZ8h8Skp5I

[@CAMSLAYER13]

@@pirig-gal nost really dont need the extra thickness. Id bet this is very heavy for what you get

[@hanklestank]

"I have no idea who invented this thing!" *The beyblade guy slinks away in shame*

[@NoNameAtAll2]

Moses beyblades Red sea away

[@PolishBigfootCircle11]

Bruh, what's with the Beyblade references on GunTuber videos?

[@knightofastora1324]

Sometimes you just gotta let it rip

[@jonathanb1916]

Now this is a forgotten weapon when he has no clue what it is

[@benjaminfinlay829]

This is really quite a clever and fascinating design.

[@ivartangring3392]

Yeah. Seems awkward at first but compared to normal muzzle loading, easier to do in while staying low behind cover. But there are certainly better ways to do breech loading with powder.

[@sairassiili]

I like the "Woop" sounds from Ian, describing rotation.

[@masterimbecile]

Man's ever expanding creativity of "how can I trow a hard object really fast, and doing so quickly, at someone I do not particulalrly like at the moment."

[@billdermody9402]

Backwards breech loader, super cool!

[@sealy3]

The concept is similar to a trap door Sharps carbine. It would make reloading from horseback much faster and more capable without the need for a ram rod. ( Dragoon rifle / Cavalry rifle ) It does need a sling or a lanyard loop and of course "rifling".

[@recurvestickerdragon]

Oh dang, I didn't even think about that. The break-action would work even better on horseback, cuz you could partially support it with the saddle

[@rogerlafrance6355]

Having to stand and load a muzzle with a rod a foot shorter than the gun was a problem needed to solved. Also, everyone was getting patents on every possible solution, practical or not.

[@enemysub9057]

@@rogerlafrance6355 Yeah you could probably load that thing quite easily if you were lying prone.

[@Hawtsaus]

This seems likely. Additionally it seems almost intended to be fired one-handed on horseback, with the cocking mechanism, apparent attempts at weight reduction, and the aggressively curved butt plate.

[@hiltonian_1260]

This is the truly obscure content that I am here for. More wackadoodle gunsmith inventor projects please.

[@tekumeku2244]

Older guns like this always make me smile at the level of creativity and innovation that many older gunsmiths were willing to try in an era of flintlocks and cap'n ball

[@fredbloggs5902]

The wonderful thing about things like this is that they emphasise that people try all the possible variants when trying to develop things further and the market then decides.

[@blakewinter1657]

There's three types of videos on this channel I really love: looking at the history of firearms engineering (including stuff that didn't really work and is obscure), looking at cool large production weapons but getting new insight, and 'look at this weird stuff.' This is definitely one of the best of that latter variety! ... I just realized those three types of videos basically cover all the videos on this channel.

[@Tallus_ap_Mordren]

Perhaps the plug held a detent and spring, to help the user index the chamber with the barrel? The breech block had a divot that lined up with the open end of the chamber, which I can see a ball detent dropping into. Otherwise, if the end of the chamber and barrel weren’t lined up well, the ball would get shaved, right?

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

This looks like something a survivor would use to hunt in the Mad Max universe.

[@Fenris77]

Or Fallout...

[@18robsmith]

Ancient gunsmith thinks.... "Now what can I do to confuse Ian in good few years time" Ponders for a few days and comes up with this weird thing 🙂 And Ian responds in manner that ancient gunsmith expected all those years ago.

[@Vanilla0729]

@@TheLadderman Well, the existence of a percussion cap nipple tells me you're technically correct. The best kind of correct.

[@danbell3827]

From what i know of early blackpweder rifles, the chanber loading system makes a bit of sense. One of the biggest problems to solve was how to get a tight seal between bullet and barrel, without making it impossible to ram a bullet down the barrel after a few shots fouled up the barrel. This bypasses the entire barrel when loading, allowing tighter fitting projectiles to be used. The non-rifled barrel is a bit odd if that's the case, though. I do think the prone/close quarters inside/horseback idea makes sense for the loading method, too. Getting rid of the ramrod makes it much easier to load. Maybe designed for self defense from inside wagons or coaches? As for the extra holes and bits, I agree it was probably just someone salvaging an "oops" or failed experiment. It would hardly be the first cobbled together system trying to make use of old parts.

[@Mamiya645]

Love the striped furnishing.

[@tenofprime]

We need "come take a look at this weird thing" as a playlist, it will make a great duo with the elbonian guns.

[@guy7912]

Aggressively bends rifle*

[@hurricane567]

Ian needs a Superman shirt

[@leonpeters-malone3054]

This is spectacular. No other word for it. I have no idea why and I think there's definitely something to be said this is being a 'whoops' moment and someone making the most of it. I still think your best 'what is this weird thing' was that over under side loading sporting shotgun from years back. You have the breeches pop out of the side. Wish I could have bought it, was such a work of art.

[@Legoperson75]

That’s actually a pretty neat concept. By getting the barrel out of the way, you’d end up needing a much shorter loading rod.

[@philwood5288]

That is what I think. This is essentially a breech loading weapon using muzzle loading technology. It could probably have been reloaded from a crouched, if not prone, position.

[@Legoperson75]

@@philwood5288 mmhm and that’s a pretty modern way of thinking, offering the most protection while one loads their gun. This would be especially handy in cover where you wouldn’t be forced to stand up to drop the ram rod down the barrel.

[@jamesallred460]

Awesome vid Ian. I always love seeing you do this sort of hands on archeology. Watching your process of disassembling/reassembling a weapon and figuring out how/why a particular decision may have been made fascinates me.

[@KingBattlon]

Seems like it would be much nicer to reload than other cap and ball rifles of the time!

[@5anjuro]

"Oh.. Crap... Screw it, let's just do a single-shot thing", was probably uttered more than once in the history of gun design.

[@globcity3456]

This is an example of the best kind of forgotten weapons. One with a true mistory and engineering thinking that you can physically see.

[@leppeppel]

The break-action gun for people who just really like the look of turret rifles.

[@peterlindbergh8526]

It looks like it would facilitate loading without standing up, could be useful in cover, confined space or on horseback. Maybe the stud on the bottom was used as a fulcrum for a small loading tool?

[@jerome3653]

It really looks like there are markings across the centre of the round block, on the side with four holes. You can see lettering where it catches the light and maybe a round symbol/maker's mark thing?

[@petesheppard1709]

The workmanship looks really good; I can see it as a concept for military service, since it would be easier to remain behind cover while reloading.

[@gordoncouger9648]

When that gun was made folks seldom drilled extra holes in steel blocks, it took too much time and wore out precious drill bits. The plate with the useless screw could have been used to layout the hole pattern for those unused holes then used as part of the frame of the rifle, neading that hole plugged Either the disc is a piece of steel salvaged from another project, the scrap pile, or the as Ian speculates the gunsmith changed his mind and made a single shot instead of a 4 shot percussion gun. The lack of rifling, an effective lock among disc, barrel, and rifle frame all point to a project quickly finished once it no longer held someones interest. However, if their goal was a fast loading breech-loading musket or small-bore shotgun that does the without much complexity. The breech would be much easier to open using the barrel and buttstock as levers rather than turn the disk after a few shots of BP fouling.

[@sindar8179]

Looks like an all hand-made one off item. Very cool that it's survived all this time. These interesting tinkering's are a great intergenerational link.

[@____MC____]

Thats cool. It gets rid of the need for a rod to ram things down the barrel.

[@rickymherbert2899]

Not only did that gunsmith fail to leave Gun Jesus any markings, he also add a few features that would confuse him too, now there's a very foresighted gunsmith!

[@Sman7290]

Gun manufacturing, Rule number 1: Put your name on it in big letters.

[@engeenir7440]

You can see a ratchet notch on the frame that hold the nipple (4:25) and those annexing holes plus the grooves around the breach makes me think that it was supposed to annex a new position on the breach every time you break it at 90° using the said ratchet system.

[@barttorbert5031]

Odd that if you have a breechloader, why not have a rifled barrel for greater accuracy? But as Ian stated, this may have been a tinkering project and the gunsmith just grabbed whatever parts he had laying around. But even if this is a Frankenstein gun, the overall concept for a breechloader is interesting. I wonder if other attempts to create a break-open breechloader were tried.

[@recurvestickerdragon]

Or perhaps rifling tools weren't available to the smith, or they planned to on a later iteration, etc

[@jubuttib]

@@FurnishedIgloo Wasn't one of the reasons that muzzle loaders tended to be smoothbore because it was so hard to force the ball down a rifled barrel? I at least most commonly think "muzzle loader = smoothbore" and "breech loader = rifle", acknowledging that exceptions exist.

[@voiceofraisin3778]

@@jubuttib Minie balls corrected that since the base of the bullet expanded to grip in the rifling so they could be narrower than the bore, but before that in the days of round ball ammunition yes, the ball had to be wide enough to grip coming out, which also meant it gripped going in.

[@gullreefclub]

@@jubuttib Muskets for Military use were smooth bore for that reason and because powder fouling was such a problem especially with rifled barrels but with a smooth bore weapon just running the ram rod up and down the barrel could abate the problem enough to keep shooting the weapon in battle. That said other guns that were not for military use were smooth bore because they were cheaper to make because back then rifling a barrel was a slow process that if one cut was screwed up could turn the barrel into scrap metal. Another reason for smooth bore barrels was that buck and ball or shot could be loaded into the weapon without affecting the barrel.

[@squireob]

I came looking for this very comment, because I had the same basic thought.

[@grumpyboomer61]

I would have to agree with the other comments about the mystery piece at the front of the breech assembly. There would have to be some way to insure that the barrel and chamber were properly aligned. The designer of this rifle may never be known, but he gets a thumbs up for creativity.

[@SangTheCryptek]

Babe wake up, new video of Ian talking about a weird gun dropped.

[@mathewweathers2788]

This channel has done more for firearms education than anything else in history. Thank you.

[@Sman7290]

Knight announcing its new "In-Line" muzzle loader (circa 1810).

[@lairdcummings9092]

Damn. That's bizarre. Effective, but wow...

[@lairdcummings9092]

I bet it fouls like mad.

[@jfsinc]

Probably the weirdest gun I’ve seen. Thank you for sharing it.👍

[@the51project]

Designer: Elmer Fudd Purpose: Wabbits.

[@dscrappygolani7981]

Close enough 😂 I was thinking Wiley E Coyote.

[@markzosemsuello4016]

Blue wabbit: but its duck season

[@the51project]

@@dscrappygolani7981 Isn't language amazing. 5 words to make people have a giggle.

[@dscrappygolani7981]

@@the51project indeed! However, the now mostly forgotten art of 'wordsmithing' lies with the wordsmith; otherwise, words are but fleeting sounds in the wind ... What's that saying, ...' brevity is the soul of wit'

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@markzosemsuello4016 wabbit season

[@LOVEMUFFIN_official]

In a way, it’s quite brilliant. There are all kinds of problems with breach-loaders before brass cases are introduced, but muzzle-loading is hugely inconvenient, especially with a long barrel. So this rifle gives you the option of substantially shortening the barrel to make muzzle-loading easier!

[@owllymannstein7113]

That's what I was thinking. It seems like a really good idea that doesn't any major drawbacks other than being more expensive to produce.

[@TheFanatical1]

This clearly doesn't pre-date the Hall rifle, and while it's probably a whole lot better at containing the powder blast than the Hall, it's not clear to me at least how much that really matters. Also, it looks like a pain to balance.

[@НикитаПыко]

From what i see - it was planned to have 1 slot for barrel and like 4 additional ports for capsule to ignate main charge, thus you can shoot from the diffirent angles . Something like modern corner gun

[@danletter9357]

This looks like a prototype for a turret loader. I’d agree 100% with that logic. Again, chamber wouldn’t work, there’s probably another example with a larger “disc” or “turret”, that did work out. When I’m tinkering and run into an issue, I like to finish the original too. It helps you to discover any other issues you might run into.

[@Plastikdoom]

Awesome fast way, easy way to load a rifle back then, surprised we don’t see more of them, at least similar to that.

[@richarddixon7276]

It would be really interesting to see this rifle being fired . Thanks Ian .

[@octarineflame]

Norwich castle museum in uk has a gun similar to that, not sure if it’s identical but very close. Haven’t seen it on display for many years now as they changed their display a few years back but don’t think they would have thrown it away

[@laurianweisser5944]

This is one of my five favorite Forgotten Weapons videos.

[@Tekdruid]

Well, whoever made that thing, top score for originality.

[@nikolaishriver7922]

This would have been a really neat concept for a breech-loading cannon, albeit a little more complicated to make.

[@Mongo63a]

Well it would let you load while prone.

[@pirig-gal]

You can load a more traditional break action while prone. You can just turn it 90 degrees to the side, right?

[@GUARDIAN.13]

That's actually a cool way of doing the action. It's easy an easy way of getting to the cap nipple and not needing to waste time with a long tamp or ramrod

[@iberiksoderblom]

Instead of the traditional front-loading riffle, this system is quite smart. I could easily see it adopted for an army, making loading riffles a less cumbersome job, while under fire.

[@JPR3D]

You know you're in for a good time when Ian overrules the standard intro with unfiltered excitement.

[@Chlorate299]

I would wager the thinking behind that is that cylindrical parts would be easier to make to fit and seal than flat faces, and possibly a little bit less complicated to manufacture than other breach-loading cap and ball rifles of the time.

[@REXOB9]

Definitely love "Hey guys take a look at this weird thing" channel. What a clever design.

[@forcesightknight]

THANKS AGAIN EAN, these old rifles are being archived in my mind just in case I need to be machining weapons. You have presented several that are very promising. For a single shot home made hunting rifle, this is genius. If there are any gun smith's out there, I'm thinking gatling X with a ?? Won't say on here. Semper fi

[@khaderahmad-abdallahllop7823]

I saw an old ¿20gauge? Shotgun with a sideways break action similar to this one a few years ago. It was Basque or Iparralde ( French-Basque) if I remember correctly. I'll be going to that place later this month. I'll ask the owner to show it to me again, because chances are high that my memory is pranking me. Btw the shotgun had been long out of use, rusty AF.

[@nerd3d-com]

So it's a rolling block breach loader but the barrel rolls instead of the breach and it rolls sideways. Cool.

[@gerry343]

The 'lug' on the frame 5:15 is a mystery. When Ian puts the 'cylinder' back in the frame to show one of the four holes aligning, he puts the cylinder in upside down (check with dismantling 3:50) On dismantling, there is a small dimple in the cylinder which does line up with the lug.

[@joshuahadams]

Probably some sort of spring and ball bearing detent then, to lock the barrel in position, while the rest are lightening holes.

[@gerry343]

@@joshuahadams That's the sort of thing I was thinking, but the cylinder does not move relative to the frame- its held fixed by the through bolts.

[@RonOhio]

I think it comes down to "I'm bored, what have I got in the junk box from playing around for the last 20 years?"

[@johnmorgan1629]

So it's official Ian's launching a new channel and that was just him practicing the intro to - Look At This Weird Thing. He is doing it as cover for if YT bans any pew pew content, even educational/historical content. Yes I know it was only a joke. Though he did get the hands right for the thumbnails on such a channel.

[@Riomhaire]

The side cuts in the unused chambers remind me of the slots for pinfire cartridges.

[@davidh5903]

So, the maker accidentally bored the first chamber clear through the center and realized he no longer could have four separate chambers, and made the best of it?

[@leszekkadelski9569]

Still less of a screw-up compared to the guy who dropped ready-to-launch satellite from a fork-lift ;)

[@SlickSixguns]

All I could think of was , “ awesome! We can now shoot around corners!”

[@EDKguy]

I love it when Ian takes a valuable weapon apart... mostly for liability reasons

[@ronniebrigman2607]

It reminded me of the postman's pistol and would bet the original thought would have been to rotate turret for reload with the lug hole on the trigger guard as a stop but figured out it was less complicated for the barrel to rotate

[@brianthomson6896]

Bizarre! No wonder why it's a Forgotten Weapon. Thanks Ian.

[@HereticalKitsune]

I imagine this thing to be easier to reload than a musket of the same length. Less ramming and such.

[@FirstDagger]

Would probably also work better than a muzzle loaded rifle.

[@XtreeM_FaiL]

@@FirstDagger If you can manage tight tolerances.

[@SirEdubardo]

you know this thing is forgotten when not even Ian knows nothing about it

[@Jorqell]

It's some sort of multi-shot design prototype all right, those side channels being different lengths means there was going to be multiple percussion caps at different heights. The gunsmith was going to create inserts with percussion cap nipples, then drill multiple chambers and connect them to the inserts, but probably decided the project was a waste of time. Later he built a single-shot gun out of the parts.

[@WmSrite-pi8ck]

Two thoughts: the axial holes could have been a way to put a powder charge or multiple powder charges into the "turret" so that all that was required is a lead slug. The powder charge doesn't need to be co-axial with the bore, it just needs to expand into the bore and it might be a way to preload four powder charges and then just have the need to prime it and slug it. Or it could be a way to store powder or lead or some other such thing you might need in this type of firearm.

[@ChamplainValleyRailSnapshots]

It's amazing watching a host with more personality than basically everyone on mainstream TV. Live the intro. Stuff like this is why I don't watch TV anymore.

[@Ofca_PL]

Watching you for years and still surprising me from time to time 😁🤠

[@oubliette862]

what a good idea, neat gun.

[@truemisto]

so it's sort of an encolsed sideways break action. looks quite sturdy

[@jasonz7788]

Thank you Ian great work Sir

[@ihcfn]

The lug looks like it's for barrel alignment, as it seems there's no other way to lock it in place precisely.

[@Allen338LM]

That's cool I really enjoy seeing stuff like this it shows how people were thinking back then and stuff that lead to innovations in firearms

[@TroopperFoFo]

Remember everyone if you are going to make something weird put your name on it so hundreds of years in the future we at least have some idea.

[@User-dc6sm]

looks like something you would build in the apocalypse: Easy to understand, reliable

[@thatguybrody4819]

it's a very interesting way to solve the problem of reloading a musket.

[@juanpedropedraja1614]

Extraña y a la vez bonita pieza de colección, me encantan estas joyas con historia que nos trae Ian.

[@schiltronmunitions3820]

I love one-off gun projects of the past!

[@DeltaOps3]

Ian you never had to tell me Im about to look at something weird, thats basically every video with you in it lol

[@lallumanohar4107]

It is nice to see you have multiple channels, keep going👍, like the content.

[@jeremywilliams5107]

My two cents on the design: The breech block is locked to the butt with the two pins that traverse it left and right of the axis of the gun. If the additional covered off lug is for location, then it's in the wrong place, as it doesn't index to a feature on the barrel assembly. Also if there were any pin that traversed from this point up to the corresponding hole on the top side, then of course that would go straight through the barrel of the gun and render the whole thing rather useless. It looks like the rotating barrel indexes into place using the spring loaded guide plate. This seems to indicate that anything on the vertical axis in this breech assembly is as good a bunch of red herrings as anyone is likely to catch. My vote goes for the armourer who had a four-shot revolver mechanism which he repurposed by turning it from the vertical to be horizontal and drilling a chamber.