Unison MIDI Wizard 2.0 Is Overpriced And Unison Is Still Trash!!! (Plus Unison Audio Alternatives)

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[@mastakilla2253]

Man, it's always good to see you.

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

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[@MrEllipsis423]

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[@beatsbybombs2828]

Yo ya face expression and title alone got me 😂. I was looking at the ad like wow it can do all that lol Great Vid My G

[@user-ir9gc4zj4e]

The important thing about it though is that it's "cutting edge" as it says in their advertising blurb, and I'm so grateful they pointed that out

[@jaspervantilburgh6393]

Awesome video 🎉❤

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

The first general MIDI was a musical instrumental digital interface and what it did is it told you what the signal key of the notation was the duration and what the control time of what your studio rack wall would do for a FX and all the other control ports for transport

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

And finding the keys to my ear it's not always a short process but if I can see it hear it and change it it tends to be a little speedier

[@user-fg8vk5bd1x]

Love the new intro tune

[@forsale313]

Man thank you so much for pointing folks in a better direction as opposed to "UNa$$ son". You gave all solid options for people to use. Thanks for keeping in real because it's getting "Real Bad" out here with the outright thievery across the board. Keep doing the right things and your blessing will continue to follow you.

[@19501960]

You’ve done a service to the MIDI community ❤

[@knrecordsproduction6437]

Hit the keeeeey 🔥

[@watchmedrivesafely]

why didnt u plug scaler

[@allandutch9792]

I am an 'old' guy and I gotta tell ya, I am soooo proud of guys like you who call this crap "CRAP" when it is! Sick to death (after umpteen decades) of BS advertising, false promises, and extremely misleading garbage from companies like Unison Audio. Keep up the great work!!

[@Synthpoptroubadour]

pity you're old though. i guess you dont have much time left?

[@MarkAdajian]

I need this...I need to push my music beyond human limits 😂😂😂

[@germanher7528]

super loops!

[@knrecordsproduction6437]

Gotta tell you ma guy tho, with this update if I have to be completely honest, they got me real curious, so if I had couple hundred bucks to spare I'd probably give it a shot. Always gonna respect your opinion tho, you da g 🔥

[@Eighty5iveProd]

Funny thing is i have midi wizard and drum monkey. Had it for well over 1 year. Only used drum monkey 2 times and the Wizard about 5 times. Great for beginners but thats how far as it goes

[@StrangerRecords]

World needs more people like you! Thanks!

[@user-rx1by7vp5x]

You're my new favorite person, lol "a lot of musicians want to punch you in the face." Well said, I've played guitar for 30 years, drums 15, produced for 10, sang for 40. Practice is worth the effort people... :-) I'm almost ready, lol...

[@smitty80]

Haha me too

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

So I'm saying unison audio has come up a little bit for sound design but all them lovely midis did you see are for composition it's a shortcut cuz you know what you want to hear but it knows what's in key so you don't have to hunt and pack and the reason why they say you don't have to have music theory and practice for years where a lot of people are trying to use it for production and they're not realizing it's shortening the time of composition so you can get to the notations that you play faster you can do it in Pilots plugins Captain epic you can do it in orbs composer you can even do it in waveform 12 and soon you'll be able to do it in Ableton 12 hey all I can say is if you got something that sounds good you got something that sounds good so if it says it belongs to somebody else for the loop all you can do is take the loops and put them on split and let them play as an instrumental but you take your royalties for arrangement and you got to find a different arrangement in the next person cuz you know once you compose right forward eight to 16 bars that's not the whole length of the song you still need something like Loop Flip or song sketch or even key arranger and these are the type of things you use when you get to the lab and it's been studied there for years that's why they can make their claims this is just release sure but how many people have been beta testing or like me in the Prototype stage where they say how do you create the graphics for this how do you get the AI to react and in my case how do you get it to be genuine format and not a generic and the last thing how do you tax it so it can be worth money

[@WJPII]

So glad you are calling the unison guys out. They STILL have not lowered their pricing. AND, the Bass midi is still not included and is an extra $100. So for $400 total, they are smoking serious stuff. Feel bad for whoever is dumb enough to buy this stuff. And FYI - I tried lemonade. Your video may be a little old. Lemonade is now subscription only. And I hate paying monthly for something. Orb, Pilot and Captain plugins do an awesome job for way less....

[@hectorheckler6327]

Sorry for being the devil's advocate, but I have midi wizard 2.0 and its actually pretty good. It has more options and have better sounding chord progressions than the other chord generators that I have used. And it IS a lot better than the 1st version. While I'm a strong believer of making music with my own creativity, I find midi wizard to be a useful songstarter tool. It comes up with complex chords that I probably wouldn't come up with on my own. In fact, I'm learning how to play more chords with it. And you don't have to worry about copyright issues like with sample packs or Splice. All I'm saying is don't knock it down before you give it a chance. But, you're right about the price. It's a little steep.

[@matlaselomakosholo3166]

I'm good with Scaler, thanks.

[@katana2seppuku]

you should do a video on the new cymatics plugin Memory

[@AceeSoul]

With Scaler at 49 dollars, and render audio packs, hard to justify that price

[@b2icebeats]

prisms is the sh!t

[@loungermusic]

Love Scaler2, but they are not the same thing

[@Chrisjenkinstvg]

So scaler is the real deal? I see other ppl speaking about it as well

[@AceeSoul]

@@Chrisjenkinstvg Yes Scaler 2 is pretty much the 🐐for this type of plugin

[@stanislavmyzenko1323]

man thank you

[@GlobalHouseMusicConnection]

youre damn right bro!

[@EASki]

All facts 💯💯💯💯💯

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

You already know!!

[@tessydemessy]

As producer i use already bass dragon and drum monkey as starting base .Now with the new midi wizard 2.0 it dus very well what it promise. So all the critics are incorrect. The first edition was indeed not good.

[@jasonmusic9938]

yeah same here, saw that ad

[@multidinero]

$1200…. Isn’t that like the entire Native Instruments suite?

[@zillasaurus]

Surprised you didn’t mention Captain Chords or Scaler

[@timecubed]

The fact that i got an ad for midi wizard while watching an ad that makes fun of midi wizard is just crazy

[@prodbymeadow]

I honestly have to say this plugin v2 makes really dope ideas 👍😂🌊 v1 was trash 🗑️ but this one is 🔥 and about the marketing yeah that’s another thing.

[@germanher7528]

I think its overcharging cause it has to pay the real developer for each copy it sells, cause the thing seems to do a legit job, at some point the marketing seems like a self parody

[@Reggi_Sample]

@@germanher7528isn’t it a scaler 2 clone

[@lilwoodiewood3457]

@@germanher7528 uhh what ... no they over charge because they want more profit your not that bright At all u think with the amount of ads they run they could justify a low price no they couldn't cause they spend 100$ on ads per every sale they even get not only that their plugins don't cost much to develop I'm a developer they claim it costs a million bucks to make each plugin yet it probably costed no more then 15k and that's a very high price for such a simple program

[@bbigshot]

SumnSumnSumn!

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

I can tell they haven't taught you to unfair Advantage yet you do it in Ableton in there clip View so not only can you key arrange it you also can do a clip envelope to change the effects so you change the timing of the sound of the instrument from the MIDI and another thing when you do your vocals if you're doing sampling of rap or any other vocals to put it on time with the measure like you play your lyrics as a instrument and not by the key but by the pad to trigger you warp marker and you Dice it into pieces you put it on 64 pads on your push and then you press a key at a time and it sounds like perfection and you never run out of breath you you never have a problem with bumping grinding pitching because you moved on from being a musician to being a music producer using a digital audio Workstation and that's what they're for musicians play live and producers use pre-recorded samples or midi to say this is the perfect timing not the variation if you was to consider me a musician I've been electronic music Creator and I would use Korg which back then we called the core G so you never would have heard of the relief until after 2000

[@thiccyboi-6495]

I got an ad for midi wizard 2.0 before this video 💀

[@Lafa2Cool]

got me to subcribe and like in 2 mins lol

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

FL Studios is the easiest thing to make a drum loop on if you're making it by hand but as far as Melodies and chords and all that I still will go waveform 12

[@yeezythabest]

This was hilarious and accurate 😭😭😂😂

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

Always played an electribe so I played stack monophonics

[@lilcheeto2595]

i got a unison add on ts video

[@VinnieDangerous]

I'm always here for the Unison slander lol

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

And I'm always here to serve it up on a platter! 😆

[@Ceejayilc]

I burnt my fingers 3 years ago. I bought the "ultimate MIDI pack" When I opened the "Chord progressions" I saw it was basically Grade 1 Theory. There was literally nothing new. I was super scammed. NEVER again...

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

And then there's some notes that you can't play on the piano or any instrument because not only are there semitone there cent in between the key so what you do is you whistle and you sing tone into your vocoder and it sounds like that sweet analog that can't nobody get it

[@ultrasupreme9312]

I had to watch a unison Wizard before seeing your video

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

And I will whistle or sing the tune before I play it

[@cjfmusic1986]

I deserve those plays 😆

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

😆 🤣 😂

[@andrewranson9200]

And for midi wizard in the middle of this😂😂

[@umelo_melodies]

♥♥♥💯

[@PeteOnTheBeat]

I'm watching this for the second to finish. Both time I started I had Unison ads pls the banner below. I predict 2 weeks of this unfortunately. And yeah,as you said,if you want AI to make everything for you,are you really making music? Like,get yours,but still. Since I'm just here to have fun,I want to make my own beats. I've even been trying to keep away from serato,chopping my own shit.

[@MattStevens9824]

It also means the chances of a youtube video getting interrupted by a Unison audio youtube commercial will go up exponentially coz these things are targeted. "The Chords are made for you..." for the Nth effin time! (where's my 1 second skip button?)

[@ivanvasquez4692]

It works if you know what you doing...but it is expensive

[@marcelszekowski315]

The fact i got a unison ad on this video... I f***ing hate this company!

[@dieterkalt4281]

Finally, someone who can speak the truth

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

If you don't understand the Roman scale of music or how to do it in Roman just looking at it as a circle of major fifth the number is a major first major second major third major fourth major fifth major 7th

[@KepalaMonyet]

Great video! Good explanation. But how are you "not making music" with Unison plugins but then somehow "you ARE making music" by using your substitutes?

[@amigazo3972]

I saw the Wizard announce this morning as well. Just made me laugh at the fact that even the most fancy mastering and mixing plugins don't cost like this. This is expensive trash.

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

And when you're doing music is a job for royalties quota matters for royalties

[@ILikeBreadBro]

Tbh the Midi Wizard aint that bad, its a good thing to use as insperation but its too expensive for crap that should cost no more than 20 dollars

[@AlexanderMoriarity]

Beta testing could be giving the 10X feedback just saying.

[@johnrambo7147]

Just use klimper guys for chords

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

Unison audio now has hm Gov self vat gateway for tax from u.k so it does not say don't keep the file

[@TheSynthesium]

How can you judge without installing? This plugin is definitely not a trash. "It's not really a synth, it's more like a rompler." - That's surely not true. There is a real synth engine inside. It's hidden from the users though, but you can find some macro controls like detune, fm depth, glide, etc. Macro controls are different for each preset, hence they seem to be picked manually by sound designers, cause they make perfect sense for the context. Sound is really cool. Even strummed guitars sound like real. It's probably not very cheap product, but definitely nice tool to grab some inspiration. I can see how much effort has been put into it.

[@lilwoodiewood3457]

no it has one shots its not a synth lol

[@TheSynthesium]

How would you control FM modulation depth or oscillator detune with one shots LOL

[@ashtenbahr646]

AI is the new gluten free

[@lmclrain]

that much money to not be that creative imo still someone with all those vsts got to think and choose the right parts to make a good song and also has to balance mids, lows. highs, pick right instruments, etc and if he or sings that is even one more factor that won't be solved by the vsts themselves

[@matt_nyc_audioengineer]

It's not like they can even say they meant beata testers with they "customers say it's 10x better" comment. I'm a beta tester for SEVERAL developers and we don't pay for the plugins. We get NFRs so we aren't "customers".

[@SeanSwizzySwagger]

yeah was a tester on version 1....they deactivated those licenses and withdrew their end of the agreement after the plugin was released

[@matt_nyc_audioengineer]

Wow, how unappreciateve! The stories just keep getting worse and worse. A lot of us work really hard as beta testers. We earn those plugins. We just do it with our time and experience. @@SeanSwizzySwagger

[@chessmusictheory4644]

beyond human limits hahaha 🤣

[@germanher7528]

seeds sounded like trash imo, must be edited to be usable, the other plugins you showed are the ones I wouldnt pick. Orb Producer and Captain Chords are way better imo. Scaler has nice reviews but I dont find it as clear since it doest seem to have a midi sequencer inside, WA Production plugins dont come with their sound library so thats a minus for me and there are a few other that either seem to generate too random stuff. Midi Wizard 2 seems usable until you see the price

[@vincenthimself2986]

This is a poor comparison... The midi wizard gives you more options and long term would be cheaper. Will take 3-6 years to be the cheaper option but If you're in this game for the long haul.... Also having the Wizard midi in the Daw itself is awesome for workflow as opposed to an external app. Just my thoughts haven't purchased the midi wizard yet.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Unison just copy the web page from one to the other, they have been doing it years, see the old Reason Lego lol shows how long they have been doing that. Also Reason Comes with scale and cords and You can literally randomly draw midi up and down press one button and turn it into in key chord progressions.

[@lilwoodiewood3457]

copying one web page from another to promote your product is not a problem why do u think thats the issue no unison is trash for other reasons nonthing wrong with a damn sales funnel but their is something wrong with their products and marketing

[@PhillipMacon-lk8mb]

Otherwise I would do my piano monophonic

[@double2782]

It’s funny how you made a video about the disfunction of our community. However, it seems as you’re definitely part of the problem you’d described 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

It's funny that this is your only comment ever on my channel... And it's about a company that's consistently scammed people, copyright striked creators, partakes in fomo (which is illegal), doesnt honor their money back guarded, spams the producer community etc etc and I'm part of the dysfunction because I speak about the company..... I guess I'll be dysfunctional then.

[@double2782]

@@SumnSumnSumnHTK of course you would be. It’s how you get clicks. Follow the pattern of what generated success from viewers. I understand both perspectives as a person who had his own marketing team with a prominent Fortune 500 company. I’ve managed many people and conducted numerous marketing campaigns. And what I see is an emotional person who follows other channels form of anger success. Carry on my friend and god bless your disfunction

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

See that's where you get the internet messed up. You assume you know the creator and why they make the content they do. If I was simply following a trend I'd hate on everything because that gets views. Maybe I don't like unison and maybe I don't wanna see someone else get scammed. Maybe I see all the negative from the company and realize it's not over a 20 year span but over a 3 year span. Maybe I feel it's necessary to speak up. You think i made that video because of views? 😆 Its not like the video is going to get a ton of views. It's not going to go viral. It's going to do about what every other video does. I could've just made another video if it was strictly about the "views". You should really meet someone before you try to analyze who they are and what their motives are... smh

[@double2782]

@@SumnSumnSumnHTK it’s your most engaged content prove me wrong and I’ll digress and apologize

[@double2782]

However, I do appreciate your passion for your position. Don’t ever stop that. You’re man enough to engage with people who see things differently so I give you a ton of respect ✊🏾

[@kymlove2006]

Lmaooooo

[@alexyari6036]

I’d say that if Unison’s plugins really could done everything they claim and much better than other plugins maybe they’d be worth it for someone who needs a backing band or someone who wants a band in a box to listen to. I did see a battle demo of midi wizard and I thought it had catchier melodies out of the box than the other software. That being said, I wouldn’t pay $300 for it. The alternatives are good enough for me and if I am going to tweak the results anyway, it does really matter. The advertising is classic high pressure sales tactics. Scammy as hell.

[@sighandsmh9739]

Unison thinking they legit can take 200 dollars for this shit 🤣

[@alsoulmusic]

I am with you on the marketing that unison does. It sucks. Make fun of all the marketing as much as you want to. I have to admit that the reason why this video bothers you called it trash. This is a tool that is useful to some people for different reasons. I have Scaler2, Captain Chords, EzKeys, and Midi Wizard 2 (I bought the original version and got a fee upgrade) and they all have a different approach. Midi Wizard 2 is not a scam. It is fine if you don't like it but think that calling something you have not used trash is going to far.

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

You clearly didn't watch the video because I didn't call this plugin a scam or trash. I said their marketing is scammy and Unison is still trash... but carry on.

[@BFHPET]

do it make good melodies? or is it hard to get something that sound good i tried scaler and captain they didnt make good melodies or chords

[@jtb5867]

@@BFHPETfr im tryna find this out as well

[@BFHPET]

@@jtb5867 nice comment back and give me feedback i did like to hear it for an actually user and not just one that talk shit like the summsumm kid.

[@Reggi_Sample]

@@BFHPETit’s the user most likely.

[@jordanjames5044]

lol

[@jixal]

Probably worth while considering not everybody is a music or music tech pro, and this shiz is haaaard to pick up. Stuff like Unison lowers the barrier to entry and allows people to stop faffing around trying to pull together multiple plugins and music tech theory and get into the act of making music. Sure if you just slap together premade stuff and call it a day that's lame, but if you get inspired and then jam over the track and eventually make your own stuff..... that's a legit time saver. Not every understands how to build chords or chord progressions or how to write melodies or basslines for different genres. Perhaps somebody just wants to jam over the top of stuff with other instruments. It's quite pricey, but also your time is worth a lot.... so if it saves a chunk of time for somebody then it's worth it? I honestly hate their marketing, it really puts me off, but have found some of the other stuff helpful just to get a jam going with mates. By the end of the night we wrote our own stuff, but it was a great launching point to just get into it.

[@EmpiricalMind]

Seeds Lemoaide is asking for credit card details for a "free" trail, thanks but a BIG NO thanks!!! terrible.

[@lilwoodiewood3457]

thATS PRETTY NORMAL AND NOT A RISK THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT COMPANY IS LEGIT THEIR PRODUCT ISNT THAT GOOD BUT ITS NOT A SCAM THEY DONT CHARGE U TILL YOUR FREE TRAIL IS UP DO U NOT UNDERSTAND THAT STOPS ABUSE EVERY TIME USTART A NEW TRIAL U NEED A UNIQUE CREDIT CARD ... THATS ALOT HARDER TOGET THEN A EMAIL ADDRESS IT STOPS ABUSE WHICH IS A HUGE PROBLEM FOR COMPANIES ALOT OF PEOPLE ABUSE FREE TRAILS IVE DONE IT MY SELF MANY TIMES I ABUSED ABLETONS TRIAL FOR LIKE 3 YEARS BECAUSE THEY DIDNT MAKE U USE A CREDIT CARD SO I COULD KEEP RESTARTING IT

[@flossondatrack8861]

This plugin is overpriced. I actually paid for the first version, so this one was free. It is better now if you can withstand that price. Lemonade was pretty good until they went to the subscription model

[@JUSTaCringeChannel]

If you don’t know chords, why would you make music?

[@thisguyrools2807]

Just torrent their stuff 😂 or learn music theory

[@user-ir9gc4zj4e]

I hope no-one is stupid enough to buy it, what a waste of money

[@user-ol2es6oo9x]

Not Wothed

[@donovanfisher6945]

Don’t trust any KZbin people full stop

[@jeremiahclement6808]

Look everyone that has this and has the silly alternatives Knows with out a shadow of a doubt there is nothing close. You simply rely on the Niche Fans you have knowing they don't have the time and Money to purchase these Products. .....Yes I bought everything with my hard earned money I was not paid a cent Nor did I receive any compensation for Simply stating the Truth. The facts are if you have the Money And you need some inspiration this is something that can help a great deal.

[@VentureNW]

Sep?

[@jeremiahclement6808]

Ah dang Cover Blown 😂@@VentureNW

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

To assume people don't like Unison because they don't have "hard earned money or time" is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile. Unison has a reputation of scamming people starting with the Unison chord pack, copyright striking youtube channels for giving them negative reviews, not honoring the money back guarantee, predatory marketing, overcharging for plugins, fomo marketing, making false claims and annoying tf out of the whole entire music community with their ads that we can't disable. There's more people that hate Unison than like them. You sir fall into the small minority or "niche" group of people that support Unison. Just because you have no morals and will support anything that doesn't mean the rest of us have to. There's a difference between being too broke to afford sumn and not seeing the value in sumn.

[@Reggi_Sample]

@@SumnSumnSumnHTKgot em

[@user-lb8ih6ie4m]

All this whining, if you don’t like it don’t buy it, move along!

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

All this whining, if you don't like my content don't watch it, move along!

[@lilwoodiewood3457]

@SumnSumnSumnHTK it's just the unison Fan boys none of them are your audience they can't handle critical thinking

[@lowedv]

If u didn't try it, don't trash talk the update, u just all sound like haters

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

The biggest problem is the price of Unison products, and there mamiplutive marketing targets noobs who dont know any better.

[@SumnSumnSumnHTK]

This is my channel ima do what I want over here!! 😆 🤣 😂

[@lowedv]

Exactly, is your channel, and on your channel you give false information without trying the products 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭👍

[@lowedv]

@@HOLLASOUNDS now you are correct, the price is too high I feel. But they can charge whatever they want. It's there product and they might not want everyone to have a copy lol.

[@lowedv]

@@SumnSumnSumnHTK yeah the channel they gives false information 😭😭😭🤣😂

[@elienganga9479]

I never understood this person; he consistently creates hate videos about Unison products. In reality, Unison offers high-quality products, and their prices don’t exceed $300. Unlike other AI plugins like Limonad, which are subscription-based and require monthly payments without ever owning the plugin, Unison products are something you actually own. Why the negativity towards Unison?