Unit Review: Aegis Defense Line - 10th Edition Index

[@Sirilere]

I wish 40K would again allow earth and wood fieldworks like trenches, bunkers, and gunpits. Those used to be allowed. And they are timeless defenses.

[@mistformsquirrel]

Main concern I'd have with it is that most of the faction terrain stuff seems to be going to legends. So I just don't know that it'll stick around come Codex time. It is a neat idea though!

[@rodrigueoneil3328]

we can give him orders like +3 on movement in order to advance or +1 on saving with leontus

[@YaoiHole]

got one but still havent used it. Really want a more trench style for my Death Korps

[@jerrytoppins]

Well I ordered one to add to the collection

[@CadianSergeantSteel]

I really want to make this work in a casual list... 🤔 maybe with your trial and error too we could figure something out

[@MrMaharg79]

1:08 GHOST! POSSESSED DEFENSE LINE! BTE (by the emperor) RUN!

[@lancourt]

GHOOOOOOOSTTTTT!

[@The_Foil]

If only GW would release fortress of redemption terrain so I can add it to my imperial defense lines!

[@hobbyvices887]

Great review, I may need to get one of these! My understanding is that the enemy will not (usually) get cover when you're shooting out of this, as you're drawing LoS from any point on your models and can likely see the full enemy model from that vantage point. If you're ducked waaaay behind the defense line, it could work out they get cover, of course.

[@AzkuulaKtaktu]

I love this stupid thing

[@dannyfeller7034]

I don’t know, home defence is important and giving what limited models left to defend it some cover isn’t always a bad idea, besides it looks sweet 😁

[@Delta285]

Does it block deep strike

[@CadianSergeantSteel]

Yes! It counts as a unit.

[@AiloDyerRamberg]

So you can only deploy it in your deployment zone?

[@stauxin91093]

Yes

[@mrgray3608]

So a tank receiving cover behind this would get a 4++….?

[@CadianSergeantSteel]

Unfortunately only Astra Militarum Infantry. But a vehicle would get the benefit of cover.

[@mrgray3608]

But an earth shaker carriage?

[@dexterello]

Mobility is important. Whatever the unit is, if it doesn't move, it's useless. As I understand it, this fortification can only be placed in the deployment zone and this thing doesn't even fire. For its cost, it's better to get something else. Everything would change if it could be placed anywhere on the map, but so far it's just a useless piece of plastic with an inflated cost in real money.

[@CadianSergeantSteel]

But for the cost of a cheap Leman Russ or 20 infantry, you can screen 20" of table with a super hardy unit. T12 is no joke. I swear, if this was like... 110 or possibly even 120 points, we'd see it in lists.

[@dexterello]

@@CadianSergeantSteel Well play a couple games with those walls and tell us about your successes. Just be honest.

[@Abp.Mars-Assembly]

Although I enjoy all of the content on this channel I do agree there should at least be a case study to give the topic more credibility and not just speculation in good faith. It might not be, but it does leaves allot of room to wonder since this model has such a bad reputation. In my opinion, this model would only be good for stalling fighting phase units against stationary units like basilisk, manticore or weapons teams. It could keep them around for an extra round and you dont have to split other units to defend those units. I would say once the melee units make it over, kiss those heavy guns and missile launchers good bye But if the wall remains, thats an added obstacle for those units to double back. That wall isnt supposed to just allow infantry squads to fortify to the last round. I think thats the deceiving part about it. It looks cool, but in practice its one of the worst decisions you can make with that unit. Especially in 3 round objective games. Even if they gave that unit more abilities and made it cheaper, it would still be an extremely situational unit.

[@dannyfeller7034]

@@dexterello if you enjoy it does it matter? Gaming should be first and foremost for fun.

[@simonemastrovito6315]

Honestly, I really don't think I'm ever gonna use this. BUT consider that this is 20" of Deep Strike denial

[@karlnygren]

I don't like this since it encourages you to stay still in a mobility driven game. Also it giving cover to enemies makes it less usable but the enemies most likely would be able to get cover anyway with todays rules. What baffles me the most is that being behind this grants a 4++ but it doesn't get that for it self. Now it's rather easy to destroy unfortunately.