United Health Care CEO fatally shot outside hotel

[@realchris]

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[@svenop]

Condolences to all the family of people who have their medical needs denied by big health care companies in the USA

[@granolamonger2278]

😂

[@stephenm3470]

@@svenop life must be hard for you.

[@deechey8054]

​@@stephenm3470 life is hard for a lot of people

[@mup_pet]

​@@stephenm3470 Some people have a moral compass, and are able to form opinions on issues, regardless if it benefits them personally or not. The question if life is or isn't hard for them is a non-sequitur.

[@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965]

100%

[@snsnplpl]

UnitedHealth Group had a *profit* of 6 billion in the third quarter of 2024. Every dime of that profit came from premiums being higher than necessary and denied/ curtailed care. This was either an assassination or a disgruntled customer, but I am not going to get too upset, those profits were squeezed from human suffering

[@stephenm3470]

Its hard to have a dumber take on this.

[@changingworldllc1157]

Facts!

[@janetpattison8474]

@@changingworldllc1157 unfortunately, with corporate greed being the norm, and people who desperately need medical care are denied, there is a serious risk for those who work for these companies. HCA is corporation that buys up hospitals, and they have made it completely unfordable for anyone who does not have great health coverage to pick up their outrageous tabs. After a car wreck, I went in for x-rays of my neck and got one pill and the bill was $32,000. I wasn’t at fault, but my Car Insurance paid for part of that bill. The guy who hit me paid for none of it.

[@mattihaapoja8203]

Yeah. The Guy was Robin Hood in grey.

[@stephenm3470]

@@snsnplpl every dime went back to American investors. As a public company. Imagine how much good uhc does compared to any other company in the us.

[@davidfaustino4476]

This guy lives in the lap of luxury while he tells your grandma she'll have to sell her home to pay for medical care. Am I supposed to be shedding a tear or something?

[@matfax]

Same thought

[@peggypasson8794]

This has been happening for many many years I know for a fact .when I was a CNA a minister had to divorce his wife out the property in his son's name .....40 years ago ! Who doesn't know this ugh .Nixon sold us out to the highest bidder privatized health care ....never ever forget this .they will an do literally let you die ......if no insurance .I guess the uneducated don't realize why Obama did what he did with health insurance but .....know your history .they can over ride a mental health board recommendation for inpatient for a high risk to re offend I had to let him out the door !!!! Truth !

[@Konski82]

These dudes make arbitrary decisions that lead to your medical death or a family member. If my kid had treatable cancer that they deemed as not worth spending the money on…it’s easy to see how this could be an expected outcome. Honestly I’m surprised it’s not more common. If a terminal person due to health insurance refusal to treat is waiting to die, what’s stopping them from sending a social message on the state of American healthcare.

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Maybe if we're lucky, other CEOs in the industry will see this and think to themselves "You know, maybe we SHOULDN'T be condemning people to death..."

[@doreengordon1475]

Legitimate argument. Sadly so but truth.​@Mischievous_Moth

[@MCJSA]

The sickness industry is an obvious target. Making money on other people's misery.

[@stephenm3470]

@@Konski82 that literally isn't true. If your kid had cancer, it would be covered by law until they are 24 through either the state or the parents' insurance. I'm guessing you're not american. No children are being denied Healthcare because they arent insured.

[@peggypasson8794]

When are people going to understand this happens each an every single day they deny treatment the have the power to override a Dr order ........they an the drug companies rule never ever forget that .😢

[@genetosphere9285]

Having worked for a large health care company, death threats were very common, especially from patients that had their claims denied or slow-walked.

[@erikhendrickson59]

Gee I wonder why

[@elvisalpha]

Maybe you were the bad guys? I don't know just saying. Not you personally, but you know what I mean.

[@realchris]

Thank you for sharing. How do employees / company usually handle these threats?

[@genetosphere9285]

@@realchris Claims processing was in a high security building, but there were cases where angry patients managed to sneak knives in and confront the staff.

[@genetosphere9285]

@@elvisalpha Having worked on the inside, the drive for profit is always compromising the health of patients. For profit health insurance should be banned.

[@TomMayer-uf7zv]

How many people have died due to denial of coverage from this company ?

[@macronomicus]

Its well over 1 million Americans, every year, if you combine the healthcare industry self-reported "mistakes & accidents" 800k, with denial of proper care, or having no care at all. Yea, its the leading cause of death for an American.

[@SamTheWurzelbacher]

I don't know, but that number is certainly miniscule compared to the number of people who are alive/healthy today because health insurance covered costs associated with their care. That said, I do agree that health insurance should not be a for-profit industry.

[@SilverCloudMusic2012]

I guess his claim was denied.

[@Mischievous_Moth]

This should have been a CSI miami intro lol

[@JamesEldritch]

Finally some accountability!!! United Healthcare canceled the plan I was on in California leaving me with no insurance, their reason because the plan was not profitable! So BRAVO!!!

[@christophercharles3169]

Chris, most of the commenters don't seem to share your surprise, disbelief or disapproval.

[@realchris]

I understand their point of view and that's why we have a community. Learn from each other :)

[@axialvideo]

I am someone who lost my wife and house to for profit healthcare 12years ago. At the time I was seriously distraught and can easily understand what kind of emotion might be behind this assassination. I think we will be seeing a lot more of this going forward and I am a little sympathetic. Many of us have to ask, who brings justice for those of us wronged by this system?

[@christophercharles3169]

@@axialvideo You have my sympathies. Our health systems, both global and local, have lost an incredible amount of credibility and one wonders if they will ever get it back.

[@PlanetJeroen]

In a civilized country with proper healthcare, this shouldnt happen .. the USA isnt one of those sadly. The prices you get to pay for medicine is absurd, and noone seems to give two shits about it. Not enough to change it anyway.

[@christophercharles3169]

@@PlanetJeroen Sad but true but not much better in Canada.

[@BlueSkyOcean]

how many kids and family life have destroyed by this company.... I feel horrible for those people

[@stephenm3470]

@@BlueSkyOcean zero? I think the answer you're looking for is zero.

[@subsystem101]

in a just world private health would be illegal but we don't live in a just world

[@hoost3056]

We don't live in a just country. There are countries that offer quality universal healthcare, but we're not one of them.

[@IndigenousArtst]

@@hoost3056 We sure aren't. Probably because those in power to do something about that rake in too much money from the Big Healthcare lobby. Money in their pockets is more important to them than our health and lives. 🤬

[@JBLegal09]

​@@hoost3056yes and your country is the only highly developed country in the world that doesn't provide universal healthcare.

[@paladro]

profiteers should fear for their lives

[@tomwestbrook]

That’s unexpected. One of the previous ceos was called out for excessive pay ($1Bn?) several years ago. They’ve got a lot of detractors. US health care is the worst mostly due to companies like UHC.

[@wbwarren57]

Violence is bad. However, I have to ask how many people died because United healthcare denied treatment or second opinions while this guy was CEO? The motivation for this shooting was probably not profit, but the desire for the revenge with the death or debilitation of a loved one. The people who died because United healthcare denied treatment or drug drugs or second opinions was definitely for profit.

[@pierregravel-primeau702]

Well... American didn't read the memo. They elect a fashit to destroy liberalism and bring them to a totalitarian state where wealthy can do whatever they like... And people voted for that...

[@Pthommie]

Violence isn't just the one-on-one incidents which happen all over the U.S. at ever-increasing rates -- there is institutional violence & that also causes great human suffering. I'm disgusted with people (not you) who get so upset about a shooting down the street but not at all about this government murdering civilians to make money for their defense industries who bribe them to create more wars, or corporations which take people's money & then deny them care when they need it.

[@wbwarren57]

@@Pthommie True. In addition to denying care, I imagine the UHC has also spent a great deal of money lobbying Congress to repeal the ACA (Obama Care) so that UHC and other health insurers can return to using pre-existing conditions to price or deny care.

[@Zero4Champ]

In the words of Jeremy Clarkson, "Oh no! Anyway..."

[@georgesos]

This is what unhinged capitalism looks like.....

[@OompaLllloompa-x2q]

They sent agent 47.

[@daroob]

Healthcare should be extremely socialized.

[@stephenm3470]

@@georgesos what? a well ran company saving lives and building wealth for 10000s of Americans to retire. As a uhc customer for 25 years i think you're just misinformed.

[@philfortner1805]

This is not capitalism, it's a monopoly that is enabled by government.

[@rox282]

​​@@stephenm3470you are everything wrong with America you only think me me me

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

I have read a few comments online and the amount of mental gymnastics these healthcare providers use to avoid paying for treatments is mind boggling...

[@ricksamericana749]

The man responsible for denying medical attention to someone was shot in the streets? Huh.

[@soliniv1411]

Kinda weird huh

[@keithjusttruth2103]

Cmon this will be MORE common place IF Trump cuts SS & Medicare/Medicaid, Food stamps , SNAP etc! Peoples will get desperate if we don’t come together and initiate policy for the betterment of Humanity & those in need in USA.. 🤔😖🤷‍♂️

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Ironically many of the people I've met who voted for him ar on those very programs. That's going to be a rude awakening.

[@tinman00]

Did someone's wife die because she was denied health care 😮

[@oscar.p3214]

That’s my guess . United has plenty of enemy’s.

[@Veritasominavincit]

Unfortunately that's quite likely due to the terrible healthcare system here in the US

[@seanbond8075]

My immediate thought as well

[@pluto9000]

Maybe it was the daughter.

[@soliniv1411]

Everyones thought, and comon sense 😅

[@pipestone67]

They are the worst health-care business. Bunch of scammers.

[@jenny-DD]

My thoughts, sadness, and condolences go out to all the families who have suffered from this piece of crap

[@RAl-r8o]

Healthcare should be free

[@johnnyv303]

Brian Thompson - Executive Vice President and CEO, UnitedHealthcare 2023 Total Compensation $10,221,898. Meanwhile Patients CONSISTENTLY have to bend over backwards and justify to their insurance, their need for procedures and/or medication that for them, would be life saving, only to have to struggle DAILY to pay their determined premiums, deductibles, annual Out of Pocket cost, then... have to jump through hops afterwards at the Pharmacy. Until Congress starts acting on behalf of their constituents rather than the corporations and lobbyist who line their pockets... "thoughts and prayers." 🤷🏻

[@mmm-mmm]

the second amendment is more important than health care

[@fromthehaven94]

I remember an episode of CSI, where the death of a woman who crashed her car into a building was investigated. It turned out employees of a health insurance company eating in a restaurant were the targets. The woman had a recurrence of cancer and was waiting for the company to make a decision on recommended treatment. Waiting too long for their decision, and the cancer becoming terminal, that woman made her fateful choice.

[@parmahmac6073]

Why don’t we have universal healthcare in the USA? You know why.

[@123lowp]

If you don't work, many states will give you healthcare for free.

[@dalyphish6448]

Republicans voted over 50 times to overturn Obamacare and recent election proved voters are against Obamacare but love ACA which is the same thing; so we don't have universal HC in USA because too many Americans would rather go without than risk someone needy perhaps getting a band-aid

[@hoonhwang4778]

You can tell the private security companies are salivating already. We'll have to get used to motocade of armored car and combat ready security guards all around.😮

[@MutualistSoc]

I hope this isnt a attempt at life insurance fraud

[@AyotreyD]

The revolving door between government and private sector.

[@168tsai8]

Don’t know him, but also not sadden by his personal tragedy.

[@paulbarros5149]

It feels like, UnitedHealthcare denied coverage for his dying wife, revenge sort of thing.

[@jasonp.edouard2307]

Healthcare is of utmost importance for families whose lives are at stake. Our life decisions are not meant to be taken lightly by healthcare professionals in boardrooms or on golf courses.

[@dobbo7690]

The list of suspects must be endless.

[@ivor000]

this will all just get progressively worse.

[@justyouraveragefox3561]

And how many people died because of this CEO?

[@eddy41617]

It just shows stock market doesn't care about CEO. It's up 1%. Make it make sense. The issue is in the U.S., there's a breaking point when this going to be more common if they are taking advantaged of ppl. We living in very tense and emotional era.

[@Cho0c0]

"oh no... anyways"

[@Sas-ym4gg]

When the justice system becomes unreliable, people take things into their own hands.

[@robinredds8527]

Imagine if the only reason he died was because his insurance didn't cover bullet wounds

[@UHyperZero]

They don't fuck with their employees only, they fuck with their customers too!

[@TheNewMediaoftheDawn]

Before I read the comments, my gut told me it could be from an improperly denied claim, or possibly corporate warfare, or even less possibly random,,,

[@Lord.of.the.Vultures]

Could United Health Care be one of those which balks at paying when your kid becomes sick?

[@WTorrie4]

I wonder how much the co-pay is for that?

[@Ihatebs]

It is not covered, pre-exiting condition (greed)

[@soliniv1411]

We cant afford it probably

[@christinamarie3598]

They also contract to handle Medicaid payments .. they are subcontractors to handle Medicaid billing. This isn’t the ONLY private insurance company that sub contracts to handle Medicaid billing

[@Tesla.TeaBagger]

Ohhhh noo, ohhh my, such a tragedy. THE INJUSTICE. Hahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha! The irony here is too much. Yes, this is unhinged behavior, yes this is bad. No rational person thinks this kind of behavior is good. On the otherside of the coin: Do I care at all about the loss of this man? No. Am I upset for his family? No. The number of lives lost under this man's direction is probably in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions. This guy worked there 20 years? Id love to see the statistics. As others have mentioned, claim denials and slow-walking cancer patients who could have been saved with treatment. Who REALLY is the unhinged person here? The CEO or the thug who shot him?

[@_DeadEnd_]

Neither; it's the person gleefully typing a full paragraph about how _he_ is totally normal and the guy probably totally had it coming you guys.

[@changingworldllc1157]

Great comment! Thank you!

[@cmoon8526]

Why is it that you bring the newest news? Thanks for being on top of it💙💙💙

[@exDivinityFPS]

My sympathy is limited for CEOs who run for-profit companies whose profits are based solely off of the suffering of others. I place personal responsibility for the incident on the attacker, but I can't blame them when people die everyday as a direct result of insurance companies and healthcare companies not caring about their patients.

[@sabinereynaudsf]

And yet there is no political support for healthcare for all. There is even more push for privatization now. We need a political solution and take profits out of healthcare.

[@exDivinityFPS]

@@sabinereynaudsf That's because lobbying is legal. Prevent corporations from lobbying politicians and you'll be surprised how quickly support turns to healthcare for all.

[@my1vice]

Look at the response when it's one of the "elite".

[@frapino]

I was about to type something controversial and say that if works in private healthcare he probably had blod on his hands but then i read the comments and realised that my thaughts wasn't controversial AT ALL! 😅

[@SerendipityChild]

Why doesn't USA have public healthcare? It's bizarre making something as important as healthcare so expensive. When human rights aren't granted by the state, people don't feel like they have to uphold their side of the social contract

[@Mischievous_Moth]

Because the healthcare companies pay our politicians to keep it that way.

[@SerendipityChild]

@Mischievous_Moth I heard it even costs money to have deadly things like cancer treated, and to give birth 😕

[@potts995]

Protestant work ethic and racism. Public healthcare is equated to godless communism and especially poor black communities would benefit most from public healthcare, which is precisely why it is rejected in American culture.

[@nevermore7325]

A private company holding peoples care hostage and leaving them to die is violence

[@thedude1666]

I guess someone did not like their health insurance premiums going up.

[@lamars2486]

The world has gone nuts in the last 48 hours. People are loosing it.

[@bipl8989]

Actually it was in 2016.

[@richardcoughlin8931]

Chris is saying I realize is the right way to feel but truth be told I feel about the same way as I did in 2019 when Frank "Frankie Boy" Cali, boss of the Gambino crime family, was shot and killed outside his home in Staten Island, New York.

[@ché_1987]

Didn't the ceo have a security team? Too risky to be a ceo nowadays esp with all these layoffs, ai spending, disgruntled customers, etc.

[@imjamming]

Apparently, he didn't.

[@spadog63]

I was covered by United Healthcare at one time. We don't know what the motivation is.

[@Tyrannocaster]

So $16M a year can't buy everything. Bummer.

[@edmorey8140]

Cuban refugees in my family warned when pushed to the limit this is the result.

[@ToeMater2027]

We need to stop pretending to care to virtue signal when in reality not a soul on this planet actually feels sorry for the man.

[@adamjaramillo7218]

I have United health care and it's the best health insurance I've ever had. Although I think Americans need much more affordable health care.

[@bellsTheorem1138]

"Investor conference". People getting rich off of our deaths and suffering.

[@Orverge]

Literally no moral and informed person ever cries over the loss of a CEO.

[@ray24051]

It's very telling that the CEO of a healthcare company Was meeting with investors that tells you right there that is their main priority to make money for their investors not the actual health care of people.

[@mhollis1989]

Comment section below summarized: "Thoughts and Prayers"

[@bobbobbinson1841]

These things are going to happen more and more. Greed kills.....

[@krisla3142]

Something crazy every day!

[@Jacob-ed1bl]

We're literally living in the most prosperous and safest time in human history, pick up a history book or two. Live was far crazier and way worse throughout history.

[@KNGDDDE]

​@Jacob-ed1bl in particular areas yes but never has the entire planet gotten screwed at the same time. Every nation using fiat currency is suffering.

[@Jacob-ed1bl]

@KNGDDDE Wrong! It's literally the reverse of what you're saying, this trend is worldwide and it's the places that are struggling and dangerous that are in the minority. The exception is never the rule and as someone whose traveled the world I've seen it for myself. People nowadays don't know how good they have it unless you're someone who unfortunately can't escape those bad places.

[@KNGDDDE]

@Jacob-ed1bl yes but you're only considering active combat. What about slxvery, exploitation, theft, physiological abuse of all kinds. Warfare has changed and evolved, most warfare nowadays I would say is spiritual.

[@SP2X1369]

UHC was the absolute best choice for my health care, never regretted it about for 7 about years now and I am disabled. First class treatment.

[@thexfile.]

How American. ☹

[@masterheke7339]

[@mauricelee77]

“Thoughts and prayers”

[@dante9192]

I’m not sorry at all!!

[@devine999]

I've heard about something like this before. The French Revolution.

[@razor1uk610]

Sounds like the perp had been watching and studying the location and targetted victim. I would guess that this is not the first or second day of the conference..?

[@burn1gotbeats]

Some jobs come with great liabilities & responsibilities

[@PonziZombieKiller]

UNH government shake down is over.

[@ringbling420]

Holy shit I work as a contractor for a uhc company this is crazy

[@mickomoo]

It’s the US. People don’t really need a reason to shoot others here. But if this is targeted this has got to be the first time I’ve ever heard of people targeting CEOs of companies people don’t like.

[@maxruedy951]

Murder is never acceptable,too soon to comment on this one,but just a thought: Medical debt is the biggest driver of consumer bankruptcies in the USA today.

[@janetpattison8474]

Yeah, very sad, very tragic.

[@i_i8924]

Symptom of a dystopia.

[@jebbrown5961]

Public response: rage at United Healthcare. People are very angry about corporate abuses in healthcare. In a time of instability, violence in response to inequality is likely to spread. Media is treating this story as a shocking murder, but the public has seized on healthcare as an issue.

[@NVRAMboi]

I suspect an outraged family member of an insured (or even formerly insured) who has recently died. Think denial of coverage for a precious loved one who is medically suffering, then subsequently financially ruined, and then dies. Purely speculation on my part. I could see such a situation generating significant hate/anger/rage/vengeance.

[@GrayHand-jz6ie]

A rich CEO dies it;s a tragedy. A person with health insurance dies due to being denied healthcare.....It's a Wednesday. Sorry, but this sounds like someone didn;t get the coverage they paid for.

[@JP-gw9ts]

“Your money or your life” how ironic.

[@bipl8989]

As opposed to, Your life, or your money.

[@staceygantt1119]

You know 99% of us don't care. The Insurance industry is a legal racket. Whether it's healthcare, auto, home, or gap insurance, we the customers get screwed while the CEO makes 22 million a year, plus bonus, plus stocks, plus this or that.

[@dh1148ify]

Omg this is terrible 😊

[@Rightiswrong-qv5ul]

With our gun laws I see this becoming common place. Everybody's pissed and it's getting worse.

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

Dang, this crazy.

[@ombhetwal778]

Worlf trying to find balance, fighting evil with evil

[@Mischievous_Moth]

You cannot rationalize with evil, you can only protect others from it.

[@matfax]

I don't see why I should feel more with this victim than some random drug addict who died on the streets, a victim of the pharmaceutical industry. It might be a personal vendetta, or it might be the start of a new right wing terrorist group in the USA. History has shown that new revolutionary activism often coincides with a small fraction that's willing to use all sorts of force. In my country, that was the RAF (left) and, more recently, the NSU (right).

[@kevk741]

Find Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring Psychiatry on this channel. Find Nicole Lamberson PA. Find “Medicating Normal”. You are absolutely right. The pharmaceutical industry is injuring people left and right. I will never forget the word “akathisia” or “tardive” as long as I stay alive. I have lost 24 friends to chronic akathisia since 2021. Read Robert Whitaker’s “Anatomy of an Epidemic”. Mark Horowitz. Peter Breggin. Find Dr. Stuart Shipko in Mad in America and hear about his work with tardive akathisia and other injuries. It’s insane what is allowed to go on.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

This is the most America story I can think of.

[@johnconelly9139]

Just watched John Q again last week. Classic movie. I don't think anyone has sympathy for dude. As an empath I understand why ppl feel that way but I also understand the business/profit side of it. Everyone take better care of yourself and don't expect any help from the top. This is Trumps America, home of vulture capitalism.

[@Lhawk2107]

well the investigators have their work cutout for them, i mean the guy was the CEO of a private health group, shixxx it could have anybody who done it...

[@chrisjohnson9645]

This country differs from authoritarian regimes with oligarchies. As they try to install the American oligarchy in the US, with Trump and others, these things will happen here more than in Russia. Everyone has guns here, which is not true of most dictatorships. It presents a different problem to the new makers of American fascism that Putin and Xi never faced.

[@seapeajones]

Thoughts & prayers 🙏🏽👼🏽

[@brandillysmom]

Well…..

[@elainejustice7646]

this is not even breaking news in America.

[@noway8233]

Its seems something personal , like a pay killer , powerfull mens always have enemies.

[@Arewethereyet69]

oh no.... anyways

[@ann3923]

Oh no 😒

[@ticolindo2010]

I hope you didn't have health insurance with United Health Care. How many people have died due to the lack of medical treatment denied by this company?