Unitronic Stage 2+ IS38 VW Golf Alltrack Dyno Tests

[@unitronic]

Solid results, this wagon scoots! 💨💨

[@VancityAudi]

We'll see how well it scoots as soon as we get it on track! I'm hoping for low 12's!

[@prs314]

@Unitronic How was it possible for him to get a 91 octane map for this car? I live in an area where only 92 is available and my 93 tune frequently pulls the timing on acceleration.

[@VancityAudi]

@@prs314 as mentioned in the video this is a BETA tune. I'd suggest you reach out to them directly either by phone or email to see if they are able to send you the 91 tune.

[@unitronic]

​@@prs314We recently added support for 91oct on this platform. Please email our team at [e-mail] and we will see what is available for you! Thanks,

[@prs314]

@@VancityAudi thanks, Unitronic sorted me out.

[@tactical_snuggy9686]

Love my is38 alltrack. Pulls like a train!

[@alexdacruz4484]

Any info on how much power the 1.8 can handle?

[@willsullivan1952]

@@alexdacruz4484 a lot. i’ve seen 470 wheel on stock motor with just bolt ons and fueling upgrades with vortex

[@RSXengineering]

@@alexdacruz4484Above around 400WTQ is the limit before rods and pistons start bending

[@thomasburns3345]

Pretty cool, always wondered what the IS38 Alltracks make. I had the gen3 EA888 in my MK7 GTi and that was a really good motor. Never got to IS38 though, went B8.5 S4 instead and now B58 powered now. I would fully buy one of these for a daily/winter car 10/10 though. I love the look, very clean and 340awhp is extremely respectable, particularly in a wagon! I love fast wagons.

[@ORBrit]

Yep, I love my sleeper 2018 Alltrack with Schuenk IS38+, Unitronic Stage 2+ I’m currently running their regular file - I assume 93, but only get 92 here in Oregon.

[@VancityAudi]

I pray that you aren't using a 93 octane tune with straight 92 octane fuel.

[@ORBrit]

@@VancityAudi didn’t know there was a 91 file! Been running this set up for 35,000 miles with no issues.

[@VancityAudi]

@@ORBrit WOW! Your car must run like absolutely sh$t, lol. Why would you assume that you can run a tune calling for 93 octane fuel and only run 92 octane fuel? That's how you blow up motors. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you have never logged your car and have never had your car on a dyno then?

[@ORBrit]

@@VancityAudi haha you’re funny! No it doesn’t run like shit. I may be losing some timing close to redline but most of the time it makes no difference.

[@VancityAudi]

@@ORBrit there is no possible way you are just losing some timing close to redline. From what I've seen from the logs from this car you would be seeing MASSIVE timing reduction through the entire pull if you were using straight 92 octane pump gas on a 93 octane tune. And no I'm not being funny. I've seen multiple cars melt their plugs and cook their engine over a handful of times from people like you, thinking it would be okay to run tunes meant for higher octane fuels and running a lower octane fuel. You think it is running "fine". It isn't.

[@scottc78]

And THAT'S why they should just release a Golf R wagon here in the states haha. That's basically stage 1 93 Golf R power with more utility.

[@Konsfps]

Very impressive numbers!

[@VancityAudi]

Agreed!

[@Carguylogan]

I just rewatched this and noticed the bit about the "Dynojet" calibrated numbers. Mustang dyno readings can be manipulated with the dyno settings- "hp at 50 mph" etc. Dynojet numbers cannot be manipulated. I have a friend with a Dynojet at his house that I've used for years and it makes nearly identical numbers to local Mustang dynos. With nearly the same bolt-ons, same turbo same tune and same gas but on the 2.0 engine in my GTI I doubt I would see 333 whp on the Dynojet I use. 330 on the 93 file with E20, maybe...

[@VancityAudi]

The reason why the shop manipulates the numbers is so they can display numbers comparable to a Dynojet. Seeing as most people want a Dynojet reading and not a Mustang reading because Mustang numbers are so much lower and people get butt hurt, lol. When I used to show Mustang numbers on this channel all the ignorant viewers would make comments about the vehicles making such lower power figures, not understanding at all that dyno numbers vary from dyno to dyno and that the true test of power is 1/4 mile ET's, trap speeds, 100-200km/h or 60-130mph testing.

[@johnunitronic]

Nice work, Adam!

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks!

[@vDub_mk5_ndo]

Wow thats some good numbers for a 1.8t nice

[@Carguylogan]

Sucks for people who live at elevation, in warm climates with no E anywhere near. Seems like everyone who mods the MQB platform is on Ethanol. I'm trying to find out how my GTI will perform at various stages on shit 91 octane gas, in warm dry air at elevations between 1,500 and 7,000 ft. Thankfully Unitronic sets these cars up well for lower octane and especially high elevation by keeping the boost targets low so there is a ton of head room. When my MK7 was just stage 1, I drove from 1,500 ft to 5,800 ft elevation and it didn't lose any power that you could feel, and the boost was exactly the same. Even on my Dragy it only lost 2 mph in the 1/4 lol. I drove from there to 7,500 ft elevation and it finally lost 1 psi but still felt just as strong. I am now stage 2 with IC and DP and the boost didn't change at all yet it picked up 3 mph on the Dragy. I'm about to go stage 2+ as I'm still not hitting 110 mph in the 1/4 which was my goal. Again, it's hard to see those numbers on shitty 91 octane gas at elevation. I have no complaints about the way the car drives with Unitronic.

[@TheTexican05]

Hey friend! Are you in CO? Beautiful state, weak sauce gas! I have empathy for my fellow enthusiasts stuck without 93 or E85. Altitude makes the turbo cars work much harder to compensate for the lack of oxygen. Are you on the stock IS20, or IS38? The latter with a good tune will get you to your goals, even in the mountain air. 🏔 💪 🇩🇪

[@Carguylogan]

@@TheTexican05 I'm in AZ. I was on is20. Car is at the shop for is38 now.

[@markpappalardo377]

Interested to see numbers running an E30 blend. Awesome ride regardless.

[@VancityAudi]

There is no tune available to run E30.

[@steviefresh4602]

Soo dope!!! Looks like car is still equipped with stock exhaust though, does it atleast have a 3" down pipe and cat delete or something??

[@VancityAudi]

At the time of this video, I believe it was stock. Now he's running 10's in the 1/4 mile and runs an aftermarket exhaust and Tunezilla software rather than Unitronic.

[@Solyarkin]

Thanks! interesting, it's not so popular in North America to tune 1.8tq (because all a3 with 1 line injectors 2.0, like i understand)

[@VancityAudi]

It is popular to tune 1.8T's in North America. The fact that 2.0T's make more power in general though from the factory is why people tend to tune 2.0T's more often.

[@Christian-xb7ve]

Would love to see IE's IS38 tune numbers compared to this

[@VancityAudi]

Sadly that won't happen. The owner has already gone on to do this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKfSe6x5oNl3ebssi=RoF7gLIsMgrZZFPr

[@JEDAutoworx]

What IS38 Turbo is on the car? OEM from a Golf R, CTS is38 or Shuenk IS38+

[@VancityAudi]

The CTS Turbo version

[@arsenyrazhkov4559]

So you can get more power than unitronic’s advertised stage 2+ numbers by using E30?

[@VancityAudi]

No. All we're doing is maximizing the potential of the tune by running a higher ethanol content. I don't recommend anyone runs E30 on a pump gas tune though. I would run E20 at a maximum.

[@arsenyrazhkov4559]

@@VancityAudi unitronic advertises 354 crank HP and 325 crank Torque, I’m guessing WHP wise that would be 300 WHP and 270-280 pound feet on 93 octane pump gas. Still pretty crazy how simply doing an E30 mix can bump it up to 338 WHP and 328 WTQ

[@VancityAudi]

@arsenyrazhkov4559 dynos do not all read the same. There are a million and one variables that change the output of dyno readings. Brand of dyno, ambient air temp, density altitude, type of fuel, quality of fuel and on and on and on. You should never compare dyno results from one to another unless they were done on the same dyno, on the same day. Proof of this is found in this video I made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3i7oKSiaZJgqaMsi=7B7QWKMSxlf7A1QK

[@joshriles84]

I want to rs swap an alltrack or a tiguan.. sweet sleeper

[@VancityAudi]

A Tiguan would be sick too

[@Solyarkin]

welcome to russia ) www.drive2.ru/r/volkswagen/tiguan/558720683018814094/

[@travisstokes7342]

anyone here upgrade from is20 to is38 on the alltrack ? I'm using intergraded Engineerings is20 tune right now. they just released there is38 tune. want to know if there much of a difference before making the leap

[@_MrLee]

I have a 2017 Alltrack should I copy this build?

[@VancityAudi]

No, you should sell your car, buy a Golf R and start with that as your base car 😉

[@e.m6499]

nice lets see the Tunezilla numbers ?

[@VancityAudi]

Follow him on IG at @is38_at and I'm sure he'll be re-testing the car eventually and sharing the results.

[@howardkahn4330]

what is the cost of this upgrade?

[@VancityAudi]

You can reach the owner on IG at is38_at

[@HarryBreyfogle]

What is the wheel set up? I need these

[@VancityAudi]

You can reach the owner at @is38_at on IG.

[@H2oToGoWH]

Why wasn’t this car running in dyno mode? Should be Fwd only…

[@VancityAudi]

You can dyno test these cars however you like. You don't HAVE to run it in FWD only to perform dyno tests. This dyno has much better airflow when facing the way it is. If we ran it in FWD, we'd have to face the car the other direction on this particular dyno. As soon as you do that you lose the usage of their powerful fan. Airflow is key when dyno testing any car.

[@brucemastiff7390]

What plugs was he running?

[@VancityAudi]

NGK R7437-9's

[@brucemastiff7390]

@@VancityAudi Thanks. I have a 2019 AllTrack 6MT APR IS20 Stage 2+ 91 tune. Pretty much everything upgraded like his plus AWE exhaust and a ARM FMIC. Do you think my IS20 would benefit from those plugs? Im in the PNW and would love to take a road trip to play on that dyno.

[@VancityAudi]

@brucemastiff7390 they wouldn't provide you any more power if that's what you're asking. I'm not sure at what stage they recommend a colder plug on that platform, but it definitely sounds like a wise idea

[@rafaelcarazo4768]

I want this but with a DAZA.

[@VancityAudi]

They already exist! There are some people that have already built them.

[@mrdouble99]

I have the exact same car, same color, same years, same wheel except mine are mat bronze I got IS38, unitronic intake, turbo inlet, catted downpipe and ECs intercooler. I want to run e30 blend to :)

[@VancityAudi]

There is no tune available for E30.

[@mrdouble99]

@@VancityAudi i'll try E20 then :)

[@VancityAudi]

@@mrdouble99 do not try it without logging your car before and after. If your fuel system is not keeping up immediately let off the gas.

[@Solyarkin]

what 100-200? Here in R (country who was banned all around the world) a lot of crazys A3 1.8t quattro with is38

[@VancityAudi]

@@Solyarkin he hasn't taken it to those speeds yet

[@22chachalaca]

Ya but how how reliable is it...

[@VancityAudi]

He's already put on over 8000 problem free miles. This car is his daily driver.

[@22chachalaca]

@@VancityAudi that's amazing. I went super conservative with my 1.8 and stopped at an 87 octane tune. I think the North American version of the 1.8 was severely "de-tuned" in order to not take away from higher price GTI sales. Example: VW Polo GTI - Makes quite a bit more power than the 1.8 here does.

[@nigelayer6630]

What is the suspension set up? I love the stance

[@VancityAudi]

Eibach Pro Kit and Bilstein B8's

[@nigelayer6630]

@@VancityAudi thank you very much!! Really sweet ride

[@VancityAudi]

@@nigelayer6630 no problem. If you have more questions for the owner his IG is is38_at

[@edwardstewart4430]

How much did it cost to get it that horsepower?

[@VancityAudi]

No idea. You'd have to contact the owner at instagram.com/is38_at?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[@KidFromQueens]

The amount of money u spend tuning, just get a S4 or SQ5!

[@VancityAudi]

Lol. The amount you spend to tune a car like this is not much at all.

[@sparacis]

All this on stock internals?

[@VancityAudi]

Yes