Units of History - Byzantine Fire Ships - Ancient Superweapons DOCUMENTARY

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@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
Fire ships have always been fascinating to me and it has been a extremely revealing to see how this technology led to "futuristic" tech such as the land based grenadier and flamethrower units we covered in a previous episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2WTqoCNh76nbbc. What Units of History should we cover next?
@ivareskesner2019
@ivareskesner2019 2 жыл бұрын
The Hashashin.
@ivareskesner2019
@ivareskesner2019 2 жыл бұрын
The Ronin.
@ivareskesner2019
@ivareskesner2019 2 жыл бұрын
Ninja.
@ivareskesner2019
@ivareskesner2019 2 жыл бұрын
Sicarii.
@ivareskesner2019
@ivareskesner2019 2 жыл бұрын
Giant siege engines of the ~9'th century.
@a-drewg1716
@a-drewg1716 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly insane how long the Byzantines managed to hold on with all of their miraculous comebacks
@troldefars
@troldefars 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why they were the Phoenix
@locomotivebearingdown5381
@locomotivebearingdown5381 2 жыл бұрын
It's because they were Roman-spirited. Romans were one of the toughest people if not the toughest.
@Komap619
@Komap619 2 жыл бұрын
In this video they focus on the greek fire but in truth this muslim invasion was going to succeed if not for the aid by the new bulgarian khanate/tsardom which by itself was another arch nemesis of the byzantine empire , during the second siege khan Tervel aided the greeks with anywhere between 15 to 30 thousand soldiers most of which eastern styled cavalry for this help he was sainted in orthodox church and named saviour of Christianity , few years later the bulgarian state and byzantine empire would go to war with one another for yet another time (there is over 500 years of recorded history between them of which most are wars)
@flackstar007
@flackstar007 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, between in fighting and economic turmoil, the Byzantines were surrounded by enemies and their frenemies were as deadly as their straight up enemy's. The supposed crusades did more damage to allied states and nations then it did in the long term against the supposed enemies of their religion. and geographically the Byzantine empire was one big open border to enemy's with very little natural geographical protections (for instance Russia was protected by vast lad features and cold weather conditions that made access almost impossible for an invading force). Add to this the historic achievements of the roman empire and the Byzantine empire itself was more like an object to be crushed to show the might of the current ruler then a place to be regarded as a noble friend. PS: I will concede that many Byzantine emperor's were very arrogant and burnt more bridges then they built, a little but of humility towards the right nations could of secured large sections of the Byzantine border and allowed for less stress from constant invasion to hold the empire for a longer amount of time.
@gilpaubelid3780
@gilpaubelid3780 2 жыл бұрын
@@locomotivebearingdown5381 They were Greeks and hellenized populations with Roman citizenship. They were Romans politically but other than that what "Roman-spirited" are you even talking about?
@youvebeengreeked
@youvebeengreeked 2 жыл бұрын
*That would have been an epic moment to put to film;* *After centuries of saying “Loose!” to your ranged soldiers, a Roman navy commander, though outnumbered and besieged on all sides, would lift the veil off the dragon head, get his troops to aim the hose end, and finally say THE one word…* *”FIRE!!”* 🔥
@srfrg9707
@srfrg9707 2 жыл бұрын
That exact word was πῦρ (Pyr) It draw its way in the english language : pyrotechnics.
@nagyonbalogh
@nagyonbalogh 2 жыл бұрын
Ooor dracaris :)
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 2 жыл бұрын
PYRRRRRRR Latinos called it: Ignis Graecus 🇬🇷🔥
@1992zorro
@1992zorro 2 жыл бұрын
You guys don't know how much you are giving to the history loving community. You guys are a treasure for growing KZbin history community and with these unique weapons/army special series you have found your own Greek Fire. I hope you guys never stop with these amazing hits. Thank you
@HistoricalWeapons
@HistoricalWeapons 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video! would love to see early gunpowder weapons such as firelances, rocket arrows, and explosive grenades of the 11th century
@reptilesarecool9763
@reptilesarecool9763 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like that
@natetendencia
@natetendencia 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. And not the mention the hand cannon, the early handgun.
@cultusdeus
@cultusdeus 2 жыл бұрын
Totally would love to see that.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese also came up with their own flamethrowers that was based on the Byzantine design. Also the Song dynasty who pioneered these early gunpowder weapons invented the first paddle boats which didn't need sails. If only the Byzantines had those types of mechanisms for their fireships. They could have been even more devastating.
@abrarsetiawan5587
@abrarsetiawan5587 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel man
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Greeks used extensively fire ships (without of course the Greek Fire which secret composition was lost centuries ago), during the Greek War of Independence (1821-1830), in order to burn the Ottoman ships, with great success.
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the correct name is Roman fire known as Rhomaicon Pyr. This is the name by which it was known to the Romans. It was also called Thalassinon Pyr which means Sea fire. The term "Greek fire" was handed down into English from the Vatican, which called it "Ignis Graeca" in Latin.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ The correct name is actually "Υγρον Πυρ", which means "Liquid Fire". This was the name given by its inventor Kallinikos.
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
@@pseudomonas03 *Hygron Pyr* is ALSO one of the names by which it was known. There were three names: Roman fire, sea fire and liquid fire. The term "Greek fire" is a misnomer given to it by Charlemagne's descendants with the goal of denying the name "Roman" to the true Roman state.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever. Anyway my reference had to do with the fire ships, that the Greeks used against the Ottoman ships during the Greek War of Independence.
@NickStrife
@NickStrife 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ That's because Greeks and Romans are one and the same by that time.. People who like to think that the Roman empire ended when Rome fell will say 'Greek fire".. People who actually know history will call it "Roman fire".. Just like with the terms "Byzantine empire" and "Roman empire"..
@zhihaoge5872
@zhihaoge5872 2 жыл бұрын
With flamethrowers mounting on all sides of the galley, this literally made the Greek Fire ships ancient equivalent of WWII battleships
@davidblair9877
@davidblair9877 2 жыл бұрын
I would be a bit skeptical of that. The ability to spew fire in all directions is impressive, but that doesn’t make it wise. Byzantine galleys were made of wood. If it surrounds itself with flames on all sides…that’s unlikely to end well.
@saeyabor
@saeyabor 2 жыл бұрын
I see the point you're trying to make here, but no offense, the comparison is SO bad lol. Comparing "paradigm shift" in naval strategy, fire ships would be slightly similar to aircraft carriers or submarines, but battleships in both World Wars fired rifled artillery from very long ranges . As David Blair pointed out, a fire ship wouldn't saturate the area around itself with flames the way a man-o'-war or ship-of-the-line would with cannonballs, because in order to avoid warping and rot despite the water, a wooden ship has to be treated with chemicals that also keep the wood flammable despite the water.
@aidanator8008
@aidanator8008 2 жыл бұрын
Technically medieval, not ancient
@BringBacktheGreeks
@BringBacktheGreeks 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidblair9877 i imagine they were smart enough to NOT "piss agaist the wind".
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 2 жыл бұрын
@@BringBacktheGreeks Winds shift directions all the time. Especially those who died from friendly fire via gas can vouch for that.
@Ventolin600
@Ventolin600 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an Arab sailor on a jolly swashbuckling adventure then seeing Greek Fire upclose for the first time
@dewd9327
@dewd9327 2 жыл бұрын
👳🏽‍♂️🔥💀
@majorianus8055
@majorianus8055 2 жыл бұрын
Most sailor s during the siege of Constantinople were actually Christians, many of them sons of former Roman subjects and were subtly pro-Roman, hence the massive 2nd armada defected to the Emperor.
@aventidblechchlatechipfrap7465
@aventidblechchlatechipfrap7465 2 жыл бұрын
@@majorianus8055 source;Dude trust me
@DrJellyFanguzzz
@DrJellyFanguzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@aventidblechchlatechipfrap7465 could always individually verify. 😂 Not like he has to cite every source when making a statement
@majorianus8055
@majorianus8055 2 жыл бұрын
@@aventidblechchlatechipfrap7465 This is a known fact. I cant grab my sources from every comment I did if this is pretty BASIC knowledge and not debatable. It's also common sense. The Islamic conquest of the former Roman provinces are just a few dozen years before. Most sailors and their sons are still Christians, especially in Africa.
@skyfragmented3933
@skyfragmented3933 2 жыл бұрын
Greek fire is called Liquid fire in Greek which sounds pretty cool
@tonymondragon3114
@tonymondragon3114 Жыл бұрын
The Gregorian chant in the background really sets the atmosphere for this great video. Well done.
@gaufrid1956
@gaufrid1956 2 жыл бұрын
Fire ships were certainly a game changer! Imagine what a combination of Byzantine fire ships and Korean turtle ships would have been like! In modern naval warfare game changers were torpedoes, submarines and aircraft carriers. Of course now it is also missile systems. One can only imagine the terror felt by sailors when they first faced the fire ships!
@dawidwojacki5049
@dawidwojacki5049 2 жыл бұрын
The greek fire is probably the closest thing to fantasy in history
@ermislyr
@ermislyr 2 жыл бұрын
What?
@ysbrandd
@ysbrandd 2 жыл бұрын
@@ermislyr he meant fantasy weapons, like lightsabers and that kind of stuff.
@maheshrathod5593
@maheshrathod5593 2 жыл бұрын
Romans🤮🤮
@MMAGamblingTips
@MMAGamblingTips 2 жыл бұрын
They’re not real?
@3jeno14
@3jeno14 2 жыл бұрын
I mean i nuke is pretty magical too
@Cba409
@Cba409 2 жыл бұрын
Only the best Naval Unit in M2TW until the discovery of gundpowder. Nough said.
@solokahn3086
@solokahn3086 2 жыл бұрын
M2tw enjoyers
@TheIronChancellor
@TheIronChancellor 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much history the Greeks have
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
Romans, not Greeks.
@randomelite4562
@randomelite4562 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ They were ethnically and (mostly) culturally Greek. Politically they were Romans.
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomelite4562 You seem not to understand what ethnicity means. If they were ethnically Greek, then why did they claim by and large to be Romans who were descended from ancient Romans? Why did many of them claim to be descended from non-Greeks? They cannot be ethnically Greek because a) they did not self-identity as Greeks, b) there were a variety of ethnic mixtures within the eastern Roman state that was clearly not Greek. Hence, why many Isaurians, Iberians and other non-Greek peoples served in the government and army. Greek was nothing more than a lingua franca of the Roman state. Their culture was also not mostly Greek. Their religion was Judeo-Christian. Their government, their economy, their military, their politics, architecture and customs were also widely Latino-Roman. Their music was highly inspired by Syrian traditions. There was also an inflow of eastern customs like Persian and Arabic, let alone also Slavic influences. This was natural, since Anatolia was the crossroads of both Asia and Europe, and also in close proximity to Africa. The Greek cultural part came in the way of the Greek language, and inheritance of Greek literary tradition. In many ways, though, the eastern Romans were much less Hellenic than the ancient Greeks. There was no drama, no theater, no Olympic Games. No polytheism. The memory of the ancient Hellenes was also disparaged. Your claim that the eastern Romans were "Greeks" rings hollow. They themselves were proud to be Romans. The insistence that they were not Greeks was all too evident.
@johnlewis3891
@johnlewis3891 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ They were both Greek and Roman. They identified as Romans, for the same reason that I, a black person whose parents come from the Caribbean, identify as America. Simply put, they were Greeks who had Roman citizenship. By this time, the empire was largely based in Greece and Anatolia, and Greek had replaced Latin as the official language.
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlewis3891 That is a woeful analogy that you spun, if there ever was one. Your self-identification as an American being also a black speaking English does not equate to the eastern Romans self-identification as Romans, speaking Greek and being of different backgrounds. The circumstances behind the two identities, American and medieval Roman, are different. First of all, in your example, your skin hue is dark. You are from the Caribbean. You speak English (perhaps as a mother tongue?). So what exactly are you, and how does your background equate to an eastern Roman who might have been born in Syria to Syrian parents, but speaks Greek and identifies as a Roman? According to your logical train, Americans are both English and American. They are not. They are simply English-speaking Americans, and anyone who thinks that Americans are English would be rebuked by Americans for saying so. Likewise, the medieval Romans who spoke Greek would have said that they are Romans. They would have rebuked you for calling them Greeks.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
Making Greek Fire back in the day must've been extremely dangerous. I don't envy the poor souls who had to put up with the process of making it everyday.
@stefanvella9807
@stefanvella9807 2 жыл бұрын
Its a shame no great movie about the Romans of Byzantium exist.
@necronom4792
@necronom4792 2 жыл бұрын
Political+Religious reasons and a basic lack of knowledge to the mainstream audience, so a movie wont make alot of revenue
@bsherman8236
@bsherman8236 2 жыл бұрын
Needs diversity to be on the market
@ThomasGazis
@ThomasGazis 2 жыл бұрын
They were not Romans though but mostly Greeks!
@stefanvella9807
@stefanvella9807 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasGazis I said Romans cos the empire was Roman
@ThomasGazis
@ThomasGazis 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanvella9807 how comes it was Roman when the inhabitants of "Roomania" (Byzantium) were predominantly Greek, they were speaking Greek and they had Christian-Greek morals, coustoms and practices? Could you please explain that?
@csabaszep8162
@csabaszep8162 2 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of greek fire in the morning.
@march11stoneytony
@march11stoneytony 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Consistently blown away by the quality of historical content some creators are producing.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
learn the difference between History, myth and fairytale.
@UnclePutte
@UnclePutte 2 жыл бұрын
The animated image of the parthian toying with a firebomb is particularily impressive. His expression suggests he's really tired of getting besieged all the time.
@antman2826
@antman2826 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the artwork and animations. Very impressive quality. Keep it up and I’ll keep watching. Awesome to also see the battle and drive plans and tactics explained. Fantastic video.
@valerimarkov1332
@valerimarkov1332 2 жыл бұрын
The byzantine fire ship was indeed one of the most formidable navy units at that time and it undoubtedly helped tremendously in both sieges of Constantinople, however, your other facts in the video are a bit blurry. In the second siege of Constantinople (717-718) the main Arab army consisted mostly of overland footmen rather than navy ships. According to some sources, the land based army was between 100,000 (10th century Arab writer al-Mas'udi) and 200,000 (probably exaggerated, reported by Syriac chronicler Michael the Syrian). It wasn't the fire ship that saved the city, but the emperor Leo shrewd diplomacy - while delaying negotiations with Maslama ibn Abd al-Malik, the Arab army leader, he enlisted help from various neighbors, mainly from the Bulgars, who settled north from Thrace, but also some smaller Khazars and Armenian forces. According to Byzantine records, Khan Tervel of the Bulgars attacked the Umayaad army in the rear decimating half of it and trapping the other half between his army and the walls of Constantinople and so the besieging army became besieged instead. Arabs were aware of the fire ship capabilities from their failed blockade before and were prepared this time. The army was well-provisioned, with Arab accounts reporting high mounds of supplies piled up in their camp, and had even brought along wheat to sow and harvest the next year, but with the Bulgars trapping and effectively besieging them, they were unable to do so. Consequently, the Arab army was ravaged by epidemics and had no other option but to try and fight. According to Theophanes the Confessor, Bulgars killed another 22,000 soldiers in the second fight and by doing so ended the siege itself. The same Khan Tervel was later canonized as a saint from both the eastern Orthodox and also from the western Catholic churches, thus named St. Trivelius (or Tribellius) Theoktist the savior of Europe, clearly signifying the importance of these events, which modern history tend to underestimate.
@l-nolazck-rn24
@l-nolazck-rn24 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I learn more about this? It sounds really interesting.
@riptrojans7237
@riptrojans7237 Жыл бұрын
​@@l-nolazck-rn24 My brother in Christ there isn't a single nation in the world that recorded history as well as the Romans and it's not even remotely close. You can find it absolutely anywhere, google the battle of your choice and you'll be bombarded with endless well-sourced and well analysed descriptions of anything.
@kkyrezis
@kkyrezis 2 жыл бұрын
In Greece we call this "Liquid Fire" (Υγρό πύρ)
@ainzooalgown1364
@ainzooalgown1364 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how far ahead of their time the Romans were, even past their territorial prime of antiquity. Can’t help but imagine how different Greece would be today if the west and east could have set aside their differences better.
@Billswiftgti
@Billswiftgti 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's not only West/East differences, it's also numerous civil wars and of course endless invasions. Just for a quick example, during Greek Independence (1821-1832), 2 Greek civil wars took place. Yes, 2.
@ThomasGazis
@ThomasGazis 2 жыл бұрын
Another history falsifier, deliberately calling the Greek - Byzantines "Romans"...in order to serve a rather dark agenda...
@Billswiftgti
@Billswiftgti 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasGazis the confusion is global my friend, even between us Greeks. The truth is that the vast majority in the area at the time was culturally and linguistically Greek. But they called themselves Romii, they were part of what was left of the "Roman" Empire ( Vasilia ton Romeon). The confusion is even bigger when Westerners and Easterners called them Greeks, Hellenes, Junans. I think that Romans faded away, but they left their print, in East and West. Administratively and militarily (this one debatable) Eastern Roman Empire was Roman, the most Roman at the time. But culturally, linguistically and ethnically (again debatable on areas) Roman was devoured by the Greek massive culture. Lost but not without a trace. In conclusion, trying to describe medieval Greeks/Romans in English is difficult. In Greek and Latin it's easier.
@ThomasGazis
@ThomasGazis 2 жыл бұрын
@@Billswiftgti there is no confusion at all! There is a specific movement of some nation-nihilists, anti-Christian bigots to deliberately de-Hellenize Byzantium and turn it into Roman! By doing so they are falsifying history but they don't care for that, as long as they are serving their own agenda!
@Billswiftgti
@Billswiftgti 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasGazis well they are a bit late if they want to turn it into Roman. But in the nation nihilism part, I agree. There is a whole globalism effort, but there is also a much older effort to wipe out Greek presence outside Southern Greece, and subsequently wipe out Hellenism entirely. And these two efforts benefit from eachother. But they won't succeed, be 100% sure about that.
@stlouisix3
@stlouisix3 2 жыл бұрын
This technology and the techniques to carry them out successfully was amazing 👏🏻 🙌🏻 😀
@simsim6419
@simsim6419 2 жыл бұрын
The Arab navy defeated the Byzantines in every single naval battle
@AkkaAlbatros
@AkkaAlbatros 2 жыл бұрын
@@simsim6419 lol no.
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
@@simsim6419 Not true -under the Macedonian emperors of 10th century the Byzantines gave the Arabs a thrashing in nearly every field recapturing Crete and areas of Anatolia and Syria -and the papal and Italian fleet gave the Arabs a complete thrashing in the battle of Ostia off the coast of Italy after the Arabs had unsuccessfully attacked Rome.There is a fresco of the battle in the Vatican by the great painter Raphael.That was around 862 A.D.
@simsim6419
@simsim6419 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 the Omayyads took tax from the pope through Ostia for over 70 years.
@JeriDro
@JeriDro 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go back in time and watch these battles like a floating eye
@kyleheins
@kyleheins 2 жыл бұрын
Equivalent game changing tech would include field deployable cannons, nuclear bombs, the Caravel, the dreadnought, the steam engine, and the mińe ball.
@averyshaw2142
@averyshaw2142 2 жыл бұрын
The gatling gun
@averyshaw2142
@averyshaw2142 2 жыл бұрын
Also the chariot
@kyleheins
@kyleheins 2 жыл бұрын
@@averyshaw2142 better to go with self loading weapons since there were a bunch of weapons similar to the gatling developed at the same time.
@nagendraraman6410
@nagendraraman6410 2 жыл бұрын
Turtle ships of Koreans.
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 2 жыл бұрын
@@nagendraraman6410 OH there were indeed inovative and were uses to they full effect by the admiral.
@justiceagainstthemaccounta6335
@justiceagainstthemaccounta6335 2 жыл бұрын
Very good! Best and most comprehensive presentation I have seen in over 50 years
@elijahjohn4482
@elijahjohn4482 Жыл бұрын
Large dragon heads spewing violent fire. Must have been utterly terrifying and devastating. Just thinking what the self confident besieging navy would have faced makes shivers run down my spine. Holy...
@modernprosperity7798
@modernprosperity7798 2 жыл бұрын
The best weapon is the one your enemy knows nothing about. History is nuts and I F-in LOVE IT!!!
@rezkyputra5239
@rezkyputra5239 2 жыл бұрын
Curious how these ships prevents friendly or self-fire
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 2 жыл бұрын
Probably by using copper and leather as isolation.
@arandomgamer1508
@arandomgamer1508 2 жыл бұрын
They had friendly fire turned off
@comradekenobi6908
@comradekenobi6908 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t light your own ship on fire Source total war
@abdualziz9
@abdualziz9 2 жыл бұрын
By telling the soldiers not to play with fire
@kreken5260
@kreken5260 2 жыл бұрын
The crews collected feces and urine in buckets during their journey instead of dumping them into the sea, and the flames could be effectively smothered with this piss-pack mixture
@lakedaimonios480bc
@lakedaimonios480bc 2 жыл бұрын
I have to correct a minor mistake here. The boetian flamethrower was used in 424 bc during the battle of Delium and not in 434bc that is mentioned.
@georgezachos7322
@georgezachos7322 2 жыл бұрын
Some of you seem hellbent in killing any connection between the Greeks and The Eastern Roman empire. Greek here. I consider the history of Eastern Roman empire, a part of my historical background. Whether you think that the term Byzantine doesn't fit, or that it was never Greek(it was, but only in part, as it was after all a multi ethnic empire just like its counterpart in the West), it makes no difference. We are all, ALL OF US, the products of thousands of years of history.
@alexmcaree7854
@alexmcaree7854 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people see connecting greece with byzantium as disconnecting it with rome but the truth is that greece decended from Rome just as much as Italy did, perhaps even more so due to how much longer the Eastern empire lasted
@georgezachos7322
@georgezachos7322 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmcaree7854 Right.
@Aioradeleo27
@Aioradeleo27 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmcaree7854 not really, the Romans never considered themselves heirs of Greek culture, since they considered it inferior, and the Eastern Romans never considered themselves or called themselves Greeks or Byzantines, they were Romans. In addition, the empire never gave importance to ethnic origin or race, so that now we can say that they represented Greek culture or Greek ethnicity
@alexmcaree7854
@alexmcaree7854 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aioradeleo27 I never said the Romans were heirs of ancient Greece, what I meant is that MODERN Greece is decended culturally from the Eastern roman empire
@gilpaubelid3780
@gilpaubelid3780 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aioradeleo27 Romans didn't consider the greek culture inferior, that's why they were influenced to a significant degree by it. When it comes to the eastern Romans, they were Greeks with Roman citizenship, ethnically-Greeks/politically Romans.. .As they themselves were saying they were Greeks in race that were calling themselves Romans, a name that they took from New Rome (Constantinople) (" Έλληνες όντες τω γένει, ρωμαίους εαυτούς ονομάζομεν, και αληθώς γε μην· εκ γαρ της Νέας Ρώμης η παρωνυμία αύτη προσκεκλήρωται ημίν") In other words they certainly considered and were calling themselves Greeks and that's something that can be confirmed by multiple byzantine sources that have survived. There are Byzantine sources with slurs and insults about Roman citizens that weren't ethnically Greek, so I wouldn't say that ethnic origin was of no importance.
@creightonbrown6449
@creightonbrown6449 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite Empire to this day!! Byzantine for Life!!
@paprskomet
@paprskomet 2 жыл бұрын
Roman for life.
@gelisgeo1309
@gelisgeo1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@paprskomet graecorum imperium. Byzantin empire or East Roman Empire are the same.
@paprskomet
@paprskomet 2 жыл бұрын
@@gelisgeo1309 except "Byzantine" terminology was designed for it to strip it of its Roman identity. And there is no need to refer it as eastern after western half of the emperi tě no longer existed. They simply named The Roman Empire.
@gelisgeo1309
@gelisgeo1309 2 жыл бұрын
@@paprskomet this is your theory about what "must" be doing. I am not agree exactly
@paprskomet
@paprskomet 2 жыл бұрын
@@gelisgeo1309 Are you insane?That is not my theory those are simply facts...
@michaelcorbidge7914
@michaelcorbidge7914 2 жыл бұрын
In 941 when the rus invade briefly under lord Igor as i heard it pronounced, I'll mention that the rus are in fact the Vikings. Tjey used to travel grom the Baltic sea to the Black Sea by means of portaging their ships between rivers. I've heard mentioned that the Vikings would be employed as mercenaries throughout middle east but i ain't verified it .
@lordsiomai
@lordsiomai 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about the history of firearms from cannons to arquebuses to matchlocks to flintlocks
@dirtbird7415
@dirtbird7415 2 жыл бұрын
With perhaps the exception of the cannon (for siege) problem with those weapons is that the were really not game changers , short of there psychological effects. Most encounters in those days were still decided by the blade.
@explorer1968
@explorer1968 2 жыл бұрын
Some years ago, in the History Channel, I watched this program titled Ancient Discoveries. A chapter was dedicated to the topic of mysterious and highly effective Greek Fire!
@Antaragni2012
@Antaragni2012 2 жыл бұрын
Answering you question, I think the invention of stirrups was also very important for warfare.
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 2 жыл бұрын
and stirrups, with all their simplicity, came surprisingly late. For example, chainmail for centuries, but still no stirrups invented. That always blows my mind.
@pappelg2639
@pappelg2639 10 ай бұрын
Cool video! The Viking Varangian Guard in the Byzantine empire is also very interesting. Fascinating empire.
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is a weapon as devastative effective as pure fire. if for most the psychological effect. just seeing someone with a flame thrower active was and often still is enough to make others just stop fighting. the down site is that often even the friendly soldiers of said person operating the machine would want to keep away from it.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather fight a guy with a flamethrower then with an assault rifle. Its just that we got used to guns. But show an AK to a Greek guy. You point a stick at someone and their head explodes. They would think you're a god.
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479
@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Жыл бұрын
Flamethrowers in ww1 and ww2 had high amounts of casualties inless put into good positions because everyone shot at them, the shotgun and gas weaponry are more effective at this
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer Жыл бұрын
@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 it's more the psychological effect a fire has. I mean that is just taping in to a very basic instinct. Sure it can be slow at first but once going it will also take a lot to stop it unless it can burn itself out. in warfare most flames were aimed at buildings and to a smaller extend armoured vehicles (that at times could act more as a building)
@Crytica.
@Crytica. 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me what the background music is in this video? It's really nice and I would love to hear it on it's own. The chanting part***
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know this too
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 2 жыл бұрын
I picked it off the audio jungle website. I think it's "Byzantine Chant 3"
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvictaHistory thanks!
@Crytica.
@Crytica. 2 жыл бұрын
@@InvictaHistory legend! Glad you noticed my comment and responded! Keep up the good work!
@Irene-iu9sj
@Irene-iu9sj 2 жыл бұрын
I think the first part is"gregorian" chant,the second is you come like lightning.
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 2 жыл бұрын
A fascinating topic, thanks! 🔥
@Lappmogel
@Lappmogel 2 жыл бұрын
Flamethrowers are an interesting weapon, theoretically they could've made really good ones way before this as well. A pressure vessel is basically just a sealed pot, bronze would be a suitable material and with vax you could cast some intricate parts as well, you could make relief and 1 way ball valves using a number of different materials, leather and grease could be used to make it pressure tight. A skilled metal worker could even have made a man portable one thousands of years ago. Fuel could be found in nature or you could make tar from wood, if you distill it down the same way gasoline is distilled today you could make it even more potent. Sure guns could've been made way back as well if people had figured out gunpowder, but you need some high levels of skill or machines to make more then a single shot weapon so even with a gun you would be dead if you where severely outnumbered.
@jasperzanjani
@jasperzanjani 2 жыл бұрын
these illustrations are a blessing
@michailmoulagr5631
@michailmoulagr5631 2 жыл бұрын
Υγρό Πυρ
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool stuff
@JLoC.2479
@JLoC.2479 2 жыл бұрын
A small overlooked important tool of mounted warfare was the Hunnic stirup, finally making horse stable weapons platform to strike or fire in all directions from all positions , the stirrup or the 3 pointed "anti cavilry mine" that always landed point up and were laid in key positions
@philly83
@philly83 2 жыл бұрын
"oh looky, their ships have dragon ornamentation... Ahhh"
@AkkaAlbatros
@AkkaAlbatros 2 жыл бұрын
and then... aaah the dragons are aliveeeeeeee
@jaxamilius5237
@jaxamilius5237 2 жыл бұрын
it looks like a rocket backwards... the greeks were incredible
@locomotivebearingdown5381
@locomotivebearingdown5381 2 жыл бұрын
This wasn't the Greeks. It was the Romans. Safe to say it's a Roman creation, Roman Fire.
@serenity_VI
@serenity_VI 2 жыл бұрын
@@locomotivebearingdown5381 lol no it was Greeks
@locomotivebearingdown5381
@locomotivebearingdown5381 2 жыл бұрын
@@serenity_VI Romans, not Greeks. They literally were not Greeks because they were proudly calling themselves Romans, while steadfastly denying that they were Greeks.
@serenity_VI
@serenity_VI 2 жыл бұрын
@@locomotivebearingdown5381 Yes, but they were Romans politically, so they were Greeks.
@serenity_VI
@serenity_VI 2 жыл бұрын
@@locomotivebearingdown5381 They denying that because back then Greek or Hellene was equal to pagan.Also sorry for my bad english I'm trying.
@Asgardiom
@Asgardiom 2 жыл бұрын
good video as always, and I would love to see one on The Mongols
@RoaringEgg
@RoaringEgg 2 жыл бұрын
Naval Spurs? How do they work? When I hear spurs I think of cowboy boots lol. (Make a video on medieval naval stuff?)
@happymonk4206
@happymonk4206 2 жыл бұрын
Something similar to Greek fire was used during the Vietnam conflict called napalm. It was a thick jelly like substance that had to be scraped off. Water had no effect.
@MorinoRavenberg
@MorinoRavenberg 2 жыл бұрын
Byzantine power, baby! ☧ 🔥💪
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
Roman power.
@simsim6419
@simsim6419 2 жыл бұрын
The Arab navy defeated the Byzantines in every single naval battle
@mathewkanapilly796
@mathewkanapilly796 8 ай бұрын
i couldn’t imagine going up against a napalm equivalent weapon in the middle ages id run too
@ermislyr
@ermislyr 2 жыл бұрын
Υγρό πύρ (liquid fire)
@chad8907
@chad8907 2 жыл бұрын
The more I think about the reason I love Invicta and docs like it has to do with the Voice behind them idk who you are guy but you got one of them Sir David Attenborough voices
@ericborger8759
@ericborger8759 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt even more influential was the Gatling gun, precursor to all of the terror in WWI
@StormLaker
@StormLaker 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid.....we used to experiment with our own concoctions, and try them out at my grampa's auto salvage. We came up with one concoction in a molotov cocktail that burned for 2-3 days.
@byzantinetales
@byzantinetales 2 жыл бұрын
Greek fire is a mystery. Who knows when and in what condition it could be used. This secret died with the empire.
@MaxMustermann-pr9lo
@MaxMustermann-pr9lo 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing Video, excellent work!!
@danielfrost-reed7469
@danielfrost-reed7469 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Macedonian pike was probably an equal for a military equivalent. It was quite pivotal.
@lonestarwolfentertainment7184
@lonestarwolfentertainment7184 Жыл бұрын
I’m imagining this but with Wildfire from Game Of Thrones and let me tell you it is glorious.
@thecatfather857
@thecatfather857 2 жыл бұрын
"What other military technologies do you think come close to matching its legacy?" Napalm.
@johnm840
@johnm840 2 жыл бұрын
Had not heard of the Fire Ships before. Interesting.
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the correct name is *Roman fire* known as *Rhomaicon Pyr.* This is the name by which it was known to the Romans. It was also called *Thalassinon Pyr* which means *Sea fire* and also "Hygron Pyr* which means "liquid fire". The term "Greek fire" was handed down into English from the Vatican, which called it "Ignis Graeca" in Latin.
@Thouhand.
@Thouhand. 2 жыл бұрын
Actual fact instead of a fun one, it was really called Sol Semen, because it was like the sun jizzing on barbarians.
@eartheternal3565
@eartheternal3565 2 жыл бұрын
This was epic! Thank you!
@ExoticBankai
@ExoticBankai 2 ай бұрын
Super interesting !
@arubahachigatsu3022
@arubahachigatsu3022 2 жыл бұрын
So this is why byzantines got 25% faster firing fire ships and the unique tech "greek fire" which adds extra armor to their ships
@ВладыкаПалпатин-и2ч
@ВладыкаПалпатин-и2ч Жыл бұрын
Great channel, sir.
@jdmjunkie2446
@jdmjunkie2446 2 жыл бұрын
I bet this greek fire was inspiration for the "Wild fire " in Game of Thrones
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
It is. That chapter even included it's own version of the Golden Chain.
@bulbakip6380
@bulbakip6380 2 жыл бұрын
How prevalent has Total War series been that Rome is always depicted in red and the Byzantines depicted in purple
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ
@ΡωμαϊκόνΠύρ 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how much history the Romans have.
@danielpirez381
@danielpirez381 2 жыл бұрын
WHY AM I SO HYPED
@danielmunsaka2051
@danielmunsaka2051 2 жыл бұрын
There's actually a tech in AOE 2 for the Byzantines called Greek fire so I guess it's semi historically accurate
@arcomegis9999
@arcomegis9999 2 жыл бұрын
The ship was called Dromon.
@kimmcroberts5111
@kimmcroberts5111 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work!
@ALVONIUM
@ALVONIUM 2 жыл бұрын
Flamethrowers on boats, the meta when playing the Byzantines.
@Voshed518
@Voshed518 2 жыл бұрын
Köttbullar e fan gött
@90skidcultist
@90skidcultist 2 жыл бұрын
.
@Jorn-gy3yc
@Jorn-gy3yc 2 жыл бұрын
More so in Attila in total war
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
So iconic GRRM can't help but add an equivalent in his novel LOL
@seanbruce8294
@seanbruce8294 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would’ve happened to Europe if the Muslims were able to conquer Constantinople at this point of history if the Greek fire wasn’t available?
@justmoritz
@justmoritz 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they did conquer good parts of the roman remains in Spain, so that's a good indication. Once the central European forces were strong enough again, they were driven out again. Probably similar would have happened in the east, too. That's the thing about invasions and conquests though, it's extremely difficult to impossible to completely supplant or assimilate the native population. It's just a numbers game in the end. The fact that the Romans *were* able to do is why they are so revered today.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
@@justmoritz Didn't the Turks pretty much did that? There's very little Greek presence left on Asia Minor. And then there's North Africa which is majority Arab now. Yes it's possible to supplant the previous inhabitants. You just need get rid of as many of the conquered initially and then convert and outbreed them whatever remained. Some would even argue it's happening in Europe now, without a shot being fired.
@charlesachurch7265
@charlesachurch7265 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation thanks xxx
@arandomwalk
@arandomwalk 2 жыл бұрын
Invicta uploading is at least something good happening on a Monday
@imperfectcell7081
@imperfectcell7081 11 ай бұрын
Byzantium used Flamethrower! It was super effective!
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
the secret weapons were just the tools. it was the leadership of Leo III that saved the Empire. his diplomacy, his cunning, and his military prowess sent the Umayyads back, with but a mere fraction of the forces that went on this conquest.
@koki84ji7
@koki84ji7 2 жыл бұрын
AND YOU KNOW THE THEODICIAN WALLS!
@Fraudkuna.
@Fraudkuna. 2 жыл бұрын
@@koki84ji7 theodosian
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
@@koki84ji7 yes. But while impregnable, the Umayyad armies were trying to starve it out. The walls could not be breached, but ppl can still starve or die off from disease. Leo used every trick in the book to save the city. Including a very strange alliance with their rivals, the bulgars.
@bonbondurjdr6553
@bonbondurjdr6553 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks a lot! :D
@Mohamed-hv2zo
@Mohamed-hv2zo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey invicta, just wanna wanna say that I like this series (units of history) so much and would like a video on the rashidun caliphate army (particularly the rashidun cavalry) to know how they beat two imperial empires and what tactics they used. Thanks.
@kaiza9184
@kaiza9184 2 жыл бұрын
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2 жыл бұрын
Very intersting Story and excellent Video 👍🙂
@nagendraraman6410
@nagendraraman6410 2 жыл бұрын
Similar game changing Naval addition was Turtle ships of Korean Genral Yi sun shin.
@gwickle1685
@gwickle1685 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@knightofsvea604
@knightofsvea604 2 жыл бұрын
Basicly every great empire ever. Have something noone can counter and win every battle, but Eventually die due to Corruption 👍 The self is its own worst enemy
@Son-of-Tyr
@Son-of-Tyr 2 жыл бұрын
Greek fire was probably something akin to napalm. It can be made with orange juice concentrate, accelerant and a few other ingredients. Wouldn't be hard for them to figure out.
@admiralsquatbar127
@admiralsquatbar127 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody: "Constantinople looks weak right no..." Constantinople "NOOOOOOOOOO"
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 2 жыл бұрын
"Anyway...."
@TravelChanelBangkokThailand
@TravelChanelBangkokThailand 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very interesting info 👌
@nikhtose
@nikhtose 2 жыл бұрын
With these victories, using Greek Fire, the Eastern Romans saved Western civilization, but never get credit for it. We always hear about the Battle of Tours in Francia, which, compared to the sieges, amounted to a glorified food fight.
@ThomasGazis
@ThomasGazis 2 жыл бұрын
But they were mostly Greeks and definitely not Romans...
@totalcrash5006
@totalcrash5006 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasGazis tomato tomahto
@clevelandwilliams5922
@clevelandwilliams5922 2 жыл бұрын
Greek Fire sounds very close to the Lord Jesus Christ sword. As he opens his mouth a torrential rain of fire. This is what happened to the Cities of Sodom & Gomorrah.
@gr.pan.7342
@gr.pan.7342 2 жыл бұрын
Συγχαρητηρια, ευγε σας!!!!
@BringBacktheGreeks
@BringBacktheGreeks 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive , and well researched video. Thank you ! Now I see, where the makers of "Game of Thrones" got their idea of the fiery Dragons ;)
@michaelimvriotis4332
@michaelimvriotis4332 2 жыл бұрын
More like their inspiration for wildfire
@theelysian1172
@theelysian1172 2 жыл бұрын
God damn... why can't Hollywood make a movie about this this is one of the craziest stories I've heard about ancient times I would pay to watch this.
@kingtryfon5702
@kingtryfon5702 2 жыл бұрын
ah yeah according to our school books in greece this fire weapon could even fire when it was in water ,incredible
@Ff-rr6uj
@Ff-rr6uj 2 жыл бұрын
ours in italy too, they even give the ingredients: sulphur, resin, etc...
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 2 жыл бұрын
well, oil floats on top of water so... not strange
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting to actually know and understand more about these then just "and then the Greek Fire won the battle" edit: I meant that this is interesting to know more then you learn in school kind of thing but it came out weird when you read it
@abcdefghi1234154
@abcdefghi1234154 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. It will be much appreciated if someone could guide me to a research on explosive pots, if it could be regarded to the Assyrian realief of 9th century BC would be best as I couldn`t find anything on that matter. Keep up guys! History is sexy!
@jonathanwilliams1065
@jonathanwilliams1065 2 жыл бұрын
If Greek fire disappeared completely before the 4th crusade what was that crusader’s account from?
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 2 жыл бұрын
You should read about how the Byzantine Emperors intimidated their foes by having Thrones that came down from the sky which they controlled with a Lever 😃
@AkosJaccik
@AkosJaccik 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the one time in history when at the gate of collapse the promised wunderwaffe _actually worked._
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