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@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 4 жыл бұрын
In1978 Eddie made everybody go practice.
@roberto3262
@roberto3262 4 жыл бұрын
And those songs still are! 🤘
@Johnny-oy9fh
@Johnny-oy9fh 3 жыл бұрын
Sure did!! I was 15 and been playing since 8 and giggjng since I was 13. Blew my guitar playing apart...in a good way...
@guitarocd9984
@guitarocd9984 3 жыл бұрын
I was lazy I picked up bits and pieces from Eddie. But pretty much after I learned Johnny B Goode I was set for life.😎
@jamesavdelis6610
@jamesavdelis6610 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed he did!! Indeed he did!!!!🤟🤟RIP EVH 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭
@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst
@Stefan-Van-der-Pulst 3 жыл бұрын
Or...made everybody stop practicing their scales.....
@somtingwongwai7194
@somtingwongwai7194 3 жыл бұрын
20 lines of coke and 2 bottles of whisky, Dorian mode would be the last thing on his mind.
@brianhazelwood5749
@brianhazelwood5749 3 жыл бұрын
I read an interview with EVH years ago. He was asked why he "jumped around" between different modes when he played. He said "there are 12 notes in an octave, I don't need anyone to tell me how to arrange them". At first, I thought that was kind of arrogant. Later I realized he was exactly right. The chromatic scale is part of music theory. Especially if you're the writing a song, you can use any note you want...
@orion681
@orion681 3 жыл бұрын
He said it's only music theory, not fact.
@ColtraneTaylor
@ColtraneTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
I never accepted the idea of scales all this time I was trying to learn guitar and it turns out I was right and have Eddie Van Halen to back me up. If only the world listened to us naive people more.
@Balazak
@Balazak 3 жыл бұрын
If it sounds good, it IS good.
@kevinr.3542
@kevinr.3542 3 жыл бұрын
Using the chromatic scale is one thing, but making it sound good is another. You have to know how to use those notes in a musical way and that is not so easy.
@carlbaumeister3439
@carlbaumeister3439 3 жыл бұрын
@@orion681 That’s brilliant! Love it!
@svarthelikoptern
@svarthelikoptern 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie is apparently struggling with cancer again. Eddie, if you're reading this by any chance get well soon! You inspired us all so much!
@gabrielvelloso9834
@gabrielvelloso9834 3 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢
@eog5217
@eog5217 3 жыл бұрын
😭
@josephharley7642
@josephharley7642 3 жыл бұрын
💔
@MrJackrockerman
@MrJackrockerman 3 жыл бұрын
😣😭
@gamatp
@gamatp 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this didn’t age well
@reethkitchards
@reethkitchards 3 жыл бұрын
His secret was his fathers jazz playing. The essence of these scales were allowing him to do what jazz musicians refer to as "slurring"...it can be found in Charlie Parker fast runs and Miles Davis's slower approach. So that is why the beginning and ending notes are spot on, with the others having a passing or "slurring" quality. IMO
@IAMTHERAZOR
@IAMTHERAZOR Жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good interpretation of his riff philosophy. There was always this segmentation to his style from the beginning. He explains a lot of this in the Smithsonian interview.
@looneyburgmusic
@looneyburgmusic Жыл бұрын
As much as I hate Jazz, that is more or less correct - it was the one thing I learned from a Jazz player that stuck with me back in the mid-80's - how tossing in notes that didn't actually "belong", was a way to smear a melody-line in ways that were unique musically.
@richcarroll7510
@richcarroll7510 10 ай бұрын
EVH said himself he didn't know any music theory, And completely failed at piano lessons (actually faked it ) ..I also think he was over rated...good at what he did ,but stole a lot of what he did from other players
@reethkitchards
@reethkitchards 10 ай бұрын
Sorry far from over-rated...He is as great of a riff maker as any 6 stringers on the planet. Every guitarist takes from others and makes their own, he was no different but somehow came out Completely Different Compared to anyone else out there...I am not a super fan, but I know what his value was...He was so good, that other people who couldn't copy what he did, invented other things just to compete against his technique and ended creating their own styles...people like Peter Buck, Johnny Marr, Andy Summers. That is how important he was. @@richcarroll7510
@RobertMJohnson
@RobertMJohnson 10 ай бұрын
@@richcarroll7510LOLOL. You need help, bro. A lot. EVH was nothing short of a musical genius. He couldn’t READ music. That doesn’t mean he didn’t know theory. You’ve outed yourself as someone who knows nothing about music and EVH. Pro tip: NEVER say or write something as foolish as “EVH is over-rated…he stole a bunch from others….” Good lord man
@nijmegen5150
@nijmegen5150 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was Eddie that said a guitar solo is like falling down the stairs and landing on your feet.
@andrewmaher8409
@andrewmaher8409 3 жыл бұрын
He said it in an interview. Maybe mid to late 80s? ...but didn’t he say it in relation to Hendrix?
@deanbibb3680
@deanbibb3680 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for this lesson! I’m 49, I’ve played since I was 15 and I’m still learning!
@jfrockon
@jfrockon 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, this has to be the best EVH lesson broke down to its simplest form. Wow! Thnx so much... Just awesome
@richardwagstrom950
@richardwagstrom950 Жыл бұрын
...that was good..
@docsworld1369
@docsworld1369 3 жыл бұрын
This is one the best lessons ever! I am still trying to figure out some theory after over 30 years of playing. The first 3 shapes that you showed are what I always went to. Secretly I thought I was just playing sloppy. Like Eddie said, “theory is just a idea, it doesn’t mean it’s right”. Like George Lynch said, “it might not be right according to theory, but if it sounds good it is good!”
@StratMatt777
@StratMatt777 3 жыл бұрын
Krist Novoselich (Nirvana bass player) told me the same thing when I asked him about how to create a great progression while we were waiting to push back from the gate.... he said, "If it sounds good, its good". That's it. I can't remember if he said "Don't overthink it" or not. A super cool nice humble guy, like so many of these players who are really good.
@virginiapicker
@virginiapicker 3 жыл бұрын
That was one of Eddie’s favorite sayings when he was a kid, too. Got him in hot water with his classical music teacher.
@RipVDub
@RipVDub 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy Tedesco has/had the same approach to a speed run...a shape, that creates noise, ending on the point of resolution. I sat in a MI class in 87 where Tommy mentions Ed doing the same thing. It's almost as if they're fooling your ear. Always appreciated.
@pepins02
@pepins02 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that EVH playing relies so much on chromatisms and shapes just evidences how much of a musical genius he is. I've been noodling with those shapes forever and they just sound soooo cheap, it's hard to get unique licks out of them if you're not really a good guitar player (which obviously is my case 😅)
@smashdalde9713
@smashdalde9713 3 жыл бұрын
...I know what you mean..
@damiancasanova4570
@damiancasanova4570 2 жыл бұрын
It's evh.... It's bad ass you're playing his stuff, pick it up and try again
@ArisAlamanos
@ArisAlamanos 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Eddie
@rogeralleyne9257
@rogeralleyne9257 3 жыл бұрын
I admire how you teach because for me you're leading more to self expression than copying!!!🙏🙏🙏
@j_freed
@j_freed 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he teaches because it leads to self-expression more than just copying!
@bigjoob4831
@bigjoob4831 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy how he teaches because of how it leads to self expression as opposed to copying!
@yes0genesis
@yes0genesis 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much time and effort I put into scales and modes back in the day only to realize that later on it all gets condensed into one big thing. I don't even think about music that way anymore and have never played more chromatically than I do currently. It's all about landing at home base at the right times. In a given solo or just messing around I'll be playing major, minor, blues, Dorian, mixolydian etc. at the same time all with chromatics in between.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 жыл бұрын
I happened upon this after Edward’s passing. I’ve always been influenced by Ed but the last 3 weeks I’ve really gone into an EVH deep dive. Thank you for this video, Robert. God speed, Ed. Thank you for everything you gave us.
@markrogers7304
@markrogers7304 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me on the deep dive. I've been listening to the roth era music more closely and hearing things in his playing that I don't remember hearing. Been working on about 4 of those songs since his passing. Ive also been so inspired that I bought and modded to make a 5150 tribute guitar. I used the kramer baretta special and modded it with a 1984 special edition original floyd rose and a Jalen Pinnacle pickup. If you don't know jalen pups they are freaking awesome for evh tone. Super clear with bell like harmonics. And dont let the price of the kramer fool you. That guitarbplays and sounds as well as my $1000+ guitars. I think it may just have become my favorite and possibly main guitar and I've played for 30yrs.
@TheMasonator777
@TheMasonator777 3 жыл бұрын
I think of them (when forced to explain them) as one string scales. “Pattern 2” : E - Minor Nat. A - Minor Nat. D - Phrygian G - Blues B - Dorian e - Minor/Dorian
@eugenegarrett1156
@eugenegarrett1156 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched several similar videos. This is by far the most constructive. It has really opened my eyes on a topic (Eddie Style) that I've studied for 36 years. Thanks Robert!
@guitarslinger32269
@guitarslinger32269 2 ай бұрын
The interviews I've read with Eddie over the years - one in particular back in the 80s - he unknowingly was using the minor pentatonic scale he picked up on by listening to records; like Cream.....and with all of Eddie's beautiful simplicity - he simply wondered: "what would happen if I started dropping in my pinky?" So he did, and liked the sound. In musical terms, he was adding semi-tone steps to the minor pentatonic scale; creating a symmetrical shape that ended up being one of his go-to patterns. How he made it work was thru the speed....and landing on a root or chord tone at the end of the run or lick. He would call it: "falling down the stairs and landing on your feet." It's all very brilliant, instinctive stuff; all very EVH :)
@kevinking2468
@kevinking2468 4 жыл бұрын
I explored this approach years ago where the only rule was to start and end on a root note and the rest was totally shape driven... I shelved it because I allowed the theory snobs to convince me I was a total sinner! Man I'm back on board - Thanks so much!!!
@garysantiago5854
@garysantiago5854 3 жыл бұрын
I once heard Eddie say in an interview that it's music theory not music fact... Just sharing... 👍
@docsworld1369
@docsworld1369 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you phrased that. Welcome to the heretic society 😆
@zagugelblatz
@zagugelblatz 3 жыл бұрын
Sometime in the early 90s, I saw an interview where Eddies was asked about his note choices, and his reply (quasi-paraphrased, close to verbatim): "Any note will do as long as the effect isn't unpleasant."
@michaeleaster1815
@michaeleaster1815 4 жыл бұрын
2:34 I've read oodles of VH interviews and am sure that he doesn't think in terms of scales or modes. He has said that people approach him and say "in that lick, you added the 10th" (I distinctly remember the "10th" because that doesn't really make sense) and he just replies with the usual "if it sounds good, it is good". His major influences were Clapton on guitar and Debussy on keys, and I think this scale/symmetric pattern reflects that (esp. after a million hours of playing).
@nicholasbernal701
@nicholasbernal701 4 жыл бұрын
I think Eddies more influenced by Jeff Beck than Eric Clapton... Eddies says Clapton cause he heard Beck wasn’t too impressed with his playing in Van Halen.. I personally think everything Eddie does is almost all Beck... doesn’t matter though I like all three of them dudes though... but yeah all them dudes point back to Beck. Lol
@Glamosapien
@Glamosapien 3 жыл бұрын
His phrase was there are no rules if it sounds good it is good
@j_freed
@j_freed 3 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Bernal - I hear a lot of Beck in the fire and snarl of Ed's phrasing. It's the attitude and the spine that makes it Beck. Without that you sound like any other boring carbon-copy KZbin shredder playing diddly widdly arpeggios to a lame backing track. A technician not a musician.
@nicholasbernal701
@nicholasbernal701 3 жыл бұрын
@@j_freed well put bro
@hughmoss9884
@hughmoss9884 4 жыл бұрын
I am just as impressed with Robert Baker as I am with EVH, you decode it all so well ! And, your originals are also good to the ear, and my ears. Sometimes some music isn't, but you have a good ear, Robert.
@dananthony6258
@dananthony6258 3 жыл бұрын
This is what a lot of Jazz players do , there call passing tones . That don’t necessarily have to be in the key . It creates the tension then put the root or the 3 or 5 of the cord that’s being played at the moment and it works.
@justinfendelet8675
@justinfendelet8675 3 жыл бұрын
EVH passed away I hit his guitar licks hard solid ...what a gift I got outta working his stuff hard I gained speeeeeeeed and melody and work my way outta situation to resolve...EVH is the the guitar like lahey is the liquor...
@brianterry6149
@brianterry6149 Жыл бұрын
Thanks now I have more understanding just started playing 3 days ago literally at the age 52 you just made it so simple thank you
@juanpablomarin5463
@juanpablomarin5463 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a treasure revealed!!! Thank you so much!! Ed changed Everything in music FOREVER, No one like You!!Virtuoso!!!
@ronniecoffey9945
@ronniecoffey9945 3 жыл бұрын
so i saved this lesson bc i truly wanted to know what Eddie was doing, so Epic , so sad now that he just passed, along with Dime now 2 of the Best Ever, rest easy Eddie, thank you for all the wonderful music and moments, i am Devastated, my heart is Crushed, thx for these lessons Bro, i luv this stuff, keep em coming, we all need to carry the flame Eddie gave us
@lucifermorningstar.3622
@lucifermorningstar.3622 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing he left behind for us was that he proved there were really no wrong notes.
@michaelannely6374
@michaelannely6374 4 жыл бұрын
If you can hear the next note that you want in your head and you know where it is, you play it. It's like 'playing free' you don't need scales, scales are rules and art has no rules.
@nomandad2000
@nomandad2000 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, but a lot of people may read that and think that learning scales and modes are a waste of time, which they aren’t.
@brockmiller574
@brockmiller574 Жыл бұрын
There's a difference between breaking rules because you don't know they exist and breaking them with intent. The fear is that if you study the rules of western music that you become enslaved by them. You certainly might. I would submit that everybody who drills pentatonic minor into their head has a helluva time getting out of "the box". So much so that there are entire series of lessons on the topic. I would submit that EVH himself spent his time in the box in the 70's before having some "a ha!" moments. But, the time it took him to get out of the box was probably a helluva lot shorter than most. What is interesting is seeing these spatial patterns. I feel like those sort of patterns are probably things that make a ton of natural sense to somebody who is inclined to tinker with and modify their gear. Probably works for people who are inclined towards mechanical things too. I'm just speculating here. But I mention that to make observation about how his genius manifests on the fretboard, and hopefully to consider how that could happen for others of us. Some of it is about being fearless. Some of it is about being disciplined. Some of it is about understanding something of how a human being comes to create a wheel on one side of the planet one day, while on another part of Earth the wheel is old news, and on yet another it's never discovered until someone else shows up with it. It could be pure dumb luck. It could be genius. But it's almost assuredly a product of somebody examining the world around them and asking questions. That being said, it feels like folly to eschew knowledge because that knowledge took time and effort.
@michaelannely6374
@michaelannely6374 Жыл бұрын
@@brockmiller574 your analysis is spot on. Ed would add, so called, wrong notes even in his pentatonic era. Thinking outside the boxes is the key to originality 👍
@donald-parker
@donald-parker 4 жыл бұрын
I've been watching a lot of Guthrie Govan lately, and joke about how his guitars have no bad notes. But upon further reflection and experimentation, I think the key is targeting important notes (like start of phrase, end of phrase). Which seems to be what all these "EVH scales" are about. Not in the same why GG does a lot of chromatic runs, but in the sense that "pretty much anything goes between the first and last notes - especially if it goes by fast". It is an interesting way to break out of old patterns and add a bit of spice to your playing. BTW - another classic Eddie-ism is doing the same rife twice but an octave apart. Gotta have some of that going on to sound like EVH.
@jonathankeith524
@jonathankeith524 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've always had this theory as well, but you're the first person that I've seen put it into words. Thank you!
@ParaBellum2024
@ParaBellum2024 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I do, but they do it faster. Much faster.
@jonclarkson2281
@jonclarkson2281 4 жыл бұрын
I’m working through Guthrie’s books right now and he has mentioned that targeting key notes or chord tones during certain parts of the bar/solo, but everything in between is fair game.
@OJA1965
@OJA1965 3 жыл бұрын
Vernon Reed kind of failed at that philosophy.
@hybridnoisebloom
@hybridnoisebloom 4 жыл бұрын
Probably biased here as a huge EVH fan but this is already one of my fave of your tutorial videos, Robert. This gets to the heart of Eddie's playing that most guys don't capture. I'm taking my notes down. :) Well done, thanks.
@MrNinjastab
@MrNinjastab 3 жыл бұрын
Eddie also had 7 masters in music. Not many know this fact. The funny thing about all these patterns I have been using them for years. The one key you are missing is that he is switching back and forth of the pattern run he goes to the scale or pentatonic version. He also borrows from classical exercises as well.
@chrislamaster3816
@chrislamaster3816 4 жыл бұрын
Getting to see Van Halen back around 2011-12 (can’t remember) and seeing him play was amazing. The 20 minute Eruption solo was sick. 🙌🏻🤘🏻
@m.vonhollen6673
@m.vonhollen6673 Жыл бұрын
Check this out. Over a Dominant 7th chord, here’s how you could think of all 12 notes. 1-3-5-b7 are the safest. As chord tones, you could stay on them all day, 2-4-6 aka 9-11-13 are both notes from the Mixolydian scale and upper extensions. 4/11 is only a half-step away from 3, so it’s the least “sustainable” of those 3 scale tones. Now we are left with these 5 notes: b2-b3-b5-b6-7 (aka: b9-#9-#11-both #5 and b13-7) All of these can be used as chromatic passing tones. b3/b5/b7 are known as Blues notes IF they are played “between the notes” (they are not represented accurately in our 12-tone system). b2 and b6 are probably the least usable but can be used as chromatic passing tones. - Now record say an E7 chord and play in all 5 CAGED positions of E7 using every single note as part of your phrases.
@howardcunniffe8738
@howardcunniffe8738 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie Van Halen has a style in him that can't be beat. He knows how to use the fret board and keep his fingers moving. I play lead guitar myself,but I'm no competition to Eddie Van Halen at all. But that doesn't stop me from playing guitar at all.Practice makes perfect.
@davidsaric2012
@davidsaric2012 3 жыл бұрын
When u did that voice "that's not how Eddie plays it" 🤣😂🤣
@gibsonfan159
@gibsonfan159 9 ай бұрын
That pick/hammer on sequence around 7:45 twists my brain every time I try it. I can do one or the other but attempting both is a struggle.
@brianengquist2110
@brianengquist2110 Жыл бұрын
I think you have put together some of the best insights ever for budding guitar heroes with these EVH videos. While obviously no one is going to watch these things and be shredding like Eddie in 15 minutes (let alone 15 years), you so clearly break down the concepts and demystify them that it gives people something to shoot for and focus on. It's no small feat to put across ideas like this that at once can be a starting point for basic technique and muscle memory practice while also laying the foundation for more generative playing. Pat yourself on the back dude.
@ran-diy-audio
@ran-diy-audio 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert! you're an excellent musician and a incredible didactic teacher as well !! thanks for all your content ! After more of 20 years playing around with the guitar I keep learning! Greatings from Argentina! Cheers!
@mccloysong
@mccloysong 2 жыл бұрын
I bet the modes weren't even in his vocabulary. I think you're right that he saw shapes that had dissonant notes. But if you rip through them fast enough as passing notes, all twelve are game. And, with nothing but a bass below to support him (pre-Hagar), he didn't have to worry about a keyboard or other guitar to rub against, so as a trio he had all the elbow room to be himself. Greatest ever.
@jamesweber5616
@jamesweber5616 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice assess ment- your comment that he had no other guitar or keyboard to "rub" against. Thanks
@fishnmaster421
@fishnmaster421 4 жыл бұрын
I see the notification I get all ready like I’m about to watch a movie. I got to have drink and a snack. Put my headphones in. Get My axe handy Incase I need to pick up right quick. Lol 😂
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 4 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@roberto3262
@roberto3262 4 жыл бұрын
Where's the snake come in? 🤔
@fishnmaster421
@fishnmaster421 4 жыл бұрын
Roberto snack
@roberto3262
@roberto3262 4 жыл бұрын
@@fishnmaster421 well that makes much more sense lmao
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 жыл бұрын
Robert I’ve been stuck in the pentatonic box for decades now. And anytime I tried to get out of it, it just hurt my head 😂. This lesson and the tabs you made for it have taken my playing to a whole other level. I see the fretboard better if that makes sense. I’m not afraid to play a “wrong” note. If it sounds good it is good. Thank you sir.
@abrahambramantino1591
@abrahambramantino1591 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Eddie :(
@hitiblue
@hitiblue Жыл бұрын
The first example is something Dimebag Darrell did and it made his solos sound even more unique. It's inspired by EVH for sure.
@robd754
@robd754 3 жыл бұрын
Well gee, thanks.. I am no EVH.. not even close.. But i have been using all 3 of those patterns as finger exercises, ascend with 1one descend with 2 but if i had 10 minutes of actual music training i could have made it musical.. This just expanded my knowledge 10 fold as to what i can do..
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@shanebrbich5698
@shanebrbich5698 3 жыл бұрын
Brett Papa Bring back the Stache 👍🇦🇺
@pv6505
@pv6505 3 жыл бұрын
As Eddie was a total gearhead, I'm curious what gear was used in the making of this video (I totally love the sound!)
@ddkeegs
@ddkeegs 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I got this from Eddie. Hammer ins and pull offs. It might have something with his keyboard playing and straight up to play what sounds good to him. Stepping out of the box a la Holdsworth.
@NeilAloha
@NeilAloha Жыл бұрын
Hey rob I appreciate all your videos, I’m 50 and my rock star dreams are Over but I love coming home and shredding after work, I throw you a super thanks every once in a while I hope it helps support your channel just don’t wanna join anyone’s class Thanks again for all the videos
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that thank you
@Tom-wm4gy
@Tom-wm4gy 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson... I really was waiting for this tutorial... Thank you soooo much...Sir!
@DarrenWaters75
@DarrenWaters75 4 жыл бұрын
When you discover you've been doing the Eddie scale this whole time.... lol
@powerswish
@powerswish 3 жыл бұрын
IKR!
@Larry-ks8bo
@Larry-ks8bo 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!!🤘🤘🎸🎸🎼🎼
@j_freed
@j_freed 3 жыл бұрын
Except Eddie would never seem lazy doing it ha ha...
@PingPong500012
@PingPong500012 3 жыл бұрын
Samezies
@l1Experiment
@l1Experiment 3 жыл бұрын
Awesomesauce Brotha really enjoyed this video, puts a lot into perspective....
@fishnmaster421
@fishnmaster421 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the fret decoder for 6 days now and my leads have gotten so much more advanced sounding. I was missing 2 notes in the past (playing by ear) and now that I know that whole scale I’m killing lead solos. Can’t believe 6 days of Roberts help moved me further than I’ve came by myself in the last 6 years. Wish I knew that years ago. But never to late I guess.
@sixgunlover274
@sixgunlover274 4 жыл бұрын
Superb. Been waiting for this. Thanks Robert!
@clementcomes1516
@clementcomes1516 Жыл бұрын
I remember Eddie quoted saying " it's like falling in the stairs, and land back on your feet"! Target the note, and no matters what happend in between 😀
@gtedeschi8850
@gtedeschi8850 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! In regards to the Esquire comparison video!! Wasn't expecting that for another 2 weeks!
@rogerowens5669
@rogerowens5669 Жыл бұрын
I realized this is a two-year-old video so hopefully you will read this most of the shredders back in the day didn't have a lot of music theory it was just comradery with the other guitarist. It's good to see you're doing the same thing just on a different format🤘😎
@bilanggoboy
@bilanggoboy 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson! Thank you so much for this deep dive into EVH’s scale patterns! Cheers from Manila and VAN HALEN FOREVER!!!
@dreadful_name2924
@dreadful_name2924 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if he gravitated towards these shapes because of the Allan Holdsworth influence. It’s a lot more shoot from the hip, but symmetrical scales do give an outside feel to his playing without it seeming overly intellectualised. Maybe Allan opened his ear to it?
@jaimel2037
@jaimel2037 2 жыл бұрын
The licks and solos are one part but how all the killer riffs even better!
@The_Macaroon
@The_Macaroon 4 жыл бұрын
The guy is so good he has his own scale pattern and not some obscure niche jazz no one listens to , but in a main stream rock band. EVH = genius. 🤘
@mccloysong
@mccloysong Жыл бұрын
Another great insight paired with technically surgical playing
@bobjoe7508
@bobjoe7508 5 ай бұрын
Initially it sounds like Eddie was just winging it and making shit up, but I’m genuinely convinced he used his jazz background all over those early records. I think he played it off as ‘falling down the stairs and landing on your feet’, but a lot of those riffs sound super jazzy to me. Also sounds like he used the core notes of an actual scale or key, but then spiced it up with ‘wrong notes’
@ffemto4
@ffemto4 4 жыл бұрын
All i can hear is the "Girl gone bad" licks from 1984 album. neat lesson!
@chimster1234
@chimster1234 3 жыл бұрын
this was so helpful. Thanks for taking the time to break it down for us
@leegollin4417
@leegollin4417 4 жыл бұрын
First pattern is more major pentatonic than minor. Most good players, yourself included, bounce between both.
@cOpEnBaCoN
@cOpEnBaCoN 4 жыл бұрын
Came for the title, but now I want that guitar. 😂 EVH just did so many weird ass things, but they always worked so well. Doesn’t get the recognition he used to.
@RichTones
@RichTones 4 жыл бұрын
He broke the rules and then wrote his own rules.
@willparker547
@willparker547 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson! You should definitely do a video like this on George Lynch!
@GearZenChannel
@GearZenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It's really about the notes that are resolved to, rather than the in-between notes, especially when the note is like a 1/64th note. Also, I recently came across a video of Eddie improvising outside his comfort zone and it wasn't really all that good. I think he needed to be in his pocket to be truly effective and is then essentially unstoppable.
@drsteviejasengnsangma8739
@drsteviejasengnsangma8739 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing breakdown.. The main idea behind his playing, Thanks a lot..
@tonstagnant
@tonstagnant 4 жыл бұрын
That G D A chord intro reminds me of Wicked Garden by stone temple pilots
@tastefulsubstance
@tastefulsubstance 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're not wrong
@robertsmith-ux8ls
@robertsmith-ux8ls 4 жыл бұрын
Those are the chords
@tonstagnant
@tonstagnant 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmith-ux8ls can you show me the chords of friday im in love by the cure.😁😁😁✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼
@robertsmith-ux8ls
@robertsmith-ux8ls 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonstagnant lol I wish I had his kind of song writing talent
@tandybare
@tandybare 2 жыл бұрын
love the Dimebag reference and your haters impressions are spot on.
@mikegorski065
@mikegorski065 4 жыл бұрын
Love your sound for this. Spot on EVH tone.
@hinjurock
@hinjurock 3 жыл бұрын
3:41 That's called a symmetrical pattern/scale - Dimebag Darrell taught those shapes in one of his Guitar World columns from the 90's.
@FantasyFilms100
@FantasyFilms100 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video!!! Brightened my day. Love the Eddie videos! Hes the greatest.
@seanp777
@seanp777 4 жыл бұрын
Love this! Please do more! Really helped open my eyes to some theory and how it relates to patterns I thought were kinda useless but now they make a little more sense thanks to you and EVH!!🤘🏼
@timfox2000
@timfox2000 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Great analysis of Eddie's thought process and approach to his playing. BTW - the "Ice Cream Man" lick you talk about around 14:40 is a very similar pattern to the "Beat It" solo. Hadn't made that connection before, thanks for showing it!
@addicted2tone349
@addicted2tone349 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of EVHs perceived arrogance was just his artistic drive. He never let himself be put into a box or told what to do which is honestly the backbone of rock and roll. He was a musical genius, RIP EVH! You were one of the reasons I picked up guitar.
@whitex3898
@whitex3898 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that’s probably correct. I mean if you read about him, people say he really was a super nice guy (when he wasn’t drunk). So I’d say it was correct to say it was his artistic drive was what made him come off as arrogant. Eddie just had the right idea as far as musical creativity goes.
@freegee3503
@freegee3503 7 ай бұрын
^ ^ THIS! ^ ^ You got it! 👍
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec
@MichaelSorensen-bl3ec Жыл бұрын
Michael Schenker said, "There is no wrong note, just connect it to the right note and it is OK. There are no mistakes if you can think correctly'.
@anwar.termizi
@anwar.termizi 4 жыл бұрын
I always want to study bout his playing but too lazy. Thanks for sharing this man 😎👍🏼
@jasonk5150
@jasonk5150 Жыл бұрын
The secret sauce that binds all of these runs together seems to be the legato/staccato technique. Amazing.
@looneyburgmusic
@looneyburgmusic Жыл бұрын
Before this style of running scales became "mainstream", some used to say the player was doing the "Drunken scale" - unintentional extra note mistakes made while playing drunk that actually ended up sounding "good". Then everyone started doing it on purpose, and it became a cliche.
@randyerb6839
@randyerb6839 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff...When you look at on a keyboard, as EVH composed most of his songs....It becomes "clear".
@graememiddleton5296
@graememiddleton5296 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Robert for the technique on lick 2 u rock man
@donnyhawk662
@donnyhawk662 Жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome! What a great way to keep Eddie relevant. Thank you Mr Baker!
@mewoosh
@mewoosh 3 жыл бұрын
SOOOOOOOO inspired today now! Thx!
@johncooper6265
@johncooper6265 4 жыл бұрын
Nice....you should listen/watch to Cameron Cooper and his latest demos of the Frankie road worn for EVH ...awesome
@darrylisaacs6110
@darrylisaacs6110 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Robert, lots of Holdsworth sounding lines on the outro solos of the 1984 album.
@unsurprisingly
@unsurprisingly 3 жыл бұрын
Checking out KZbin and caught you on here brother never seen you before but I love it already subscribed much love from Huntington West Virginia rock on brother
@valve84
@valve84 3 жыл бұрын
Ed was a bundle of energy. Great vid Robert!
@ronh1978
@ronh1978 3 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you read these but your videos are always informative and enjoyable.
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron
@silentstormstudios
@silentstormstudios 3 жыл бұрын
So, what I gather that you’re explaining is how Eddie Van Halen pretty much cheated and threw in lots of wrong notes just to make the patterns symmetrical and, therefore, easier to play fast. And, of course, the faster you play them, the less noticeable the wrong notes are. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge life-long Van Halen fan. But that’s essentially what’s happening here. He figured out how to play as many notes as possible as fast as possible, whether the notes were “wrong” or “right” in the context of traditional theory, and make it sound good. It’s really genius. As long as you start and end on a chord tone, it all turns out good!
@LeStraTele
@LeStraTele 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone going for Eddie's tone has a Strat with a humbucker and a Floyd Rose. But Eddie didn't get a floyd until the spring of 1980. The early stuff was a good old Fender Strat trem. Different midrange tone.
@dayshunmarxus27
@dayshunmarxus27 9 ай бұрын
There is some scale but i find darting around the fret board helps play more like him
@brownsfan7753
@brownsfan7753 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!! EVH is the reason I started playing!!
@jamespatrick9446
@jamespatrick9446 3 жыл бұрын
He played a drum kit with strings!
@AP-qn6br
@AP-qn6br 3 жыл бұрын
The riff you do from B to A at 8.08 works great, i,ll try to use it.
@pcollenyt3683
@pcollenyt3683 3 жыл бұрын
Odl saying....if you play a wrong note, smile and call it jazz.
@ipguyman108
@ipguyman108 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you, great lesson. I was kinda figuring it out but you nailed it down for me😊
@highlandparkguitarlessons8129
@highlandparkguitarlessons8129 2 жыл бұрын
If you pitch your left and right enough, you’ll probably be able to hit any notes and be in the key especially if the bass just hits the same root note over again.
@ClifHaley
@ClifHaley 9 ай бұрын
What I find impressive is that Eddie probably thought zero about any of this, he just did it.
@3500ton
@3500ton 2 жыл бұрын
In another context it would sound almost like flamenco with a gipsy swing what he does. Spanish Fly is a perfect example. He was jazz influenced but the way he aggressively approach sounds more flamenco like to me.
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