Unlocking the Secrets of Stealth to Build a Stealth Fighter

[@messier82ac]

34 minutes long and this is the abridged version... Maybe I ramble a bit lmfao

[@GamingGremlin21]

F35 AnD Yf23 HaD a BaBy

[@UrsinePuppet976]

It's good ramble, you talk about aviation and how and why you do things and what makes them important. The content you make is incredible, keep it up. Your awesome mate👍

[@The_spac3gam3r]

Gif us the long version

[@isaacm1929]

Rambling about personal interests? That is literally the fun part!

[@paulkepshire5056]

@messier82ac Maybe you're doing just fine and imposter syndrome is rearing its ugly head? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@syborgcat3830]

12:44 Jimmy is staring into my soul

[@messier82ac]

He knows what you did...

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

​@@messier82ac *AND THE DEVIL KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!*

[@lisahiebert-penner1191]

@@messier82acit was an accident it wasn’t my fault

[@MartianLeo_T]

@@lisahiebert-penner1191*it was your fault*

[@John-qv5ux]

Stealth is cringe, my fighters will amplify their radar cross section with luneberg reflectors to create a return so big it blinds the radar.

[@ildaromar1798]

legitimately not a bad idea

[@CarterDauer]

Won’t that blind your radar too

[@legosrcool3420]

@@CarterDauerso what we got eyes

[@John-qv5ux]

@@CarterDauer Radar is cringe. Embrace IRST.

[@alicorn3924]

in all seriousness, could this actually work though? edit: now that I think about it, this is basically just jamming

[@Urssaff]

12:11 The cube! World's best stealth jet fighter

[@0rion5212]

USS Nimitz would agree 😂

[@professionaldesk]

Before time began, there was... The Cube.

[@Ilikespacee]

I saw you edit it

[@botstowo]

This video will be super handy! I just tried making a stealth fighter based on the Su-57. It had a terrible stealth rating which is... accurate...

[@messier82ac]

Hide yo compressors!

[@John-qv5ux]

Sounds like a perfect replica of the real Su-57.

[@G-Cole-01]

...so you made an Su-57.

[@tetronaut88]

Hi cool gas mask guy!!!

[@WildmanTrading]

Seems accurate.

[@me_dum]

Get this man a job at Skunkworks

[@stinbray1120]

not if i get there first

[@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm]

Huh, so that's why he's taking a break.

[@bmouch1018]

22:31 great Messier. You just added a brand new maintenance school and a whole list of qualifications just for the one launch system of one aircraft.

[@guigui70051]

The stealth rate of the cube going from 0.01 to 30156 really made me laugh 😂 We need W or M shaped wings if we want a high rating

[@karlkinnard9932]

This is why Skunkworks was struggling so hard to make the F117 as the ultimate stealth shape was an elongated diamond, and they had to somehow make it fly.

[@danielmansoor8175]

Awesome! Would be really cool to see you tackle helicopters in future projects as well. Maybe a modern AH-56?

[@TheRealGamada]

Hands down one of the best videos you made to date. The intro is solid gold, the blueprints and explanations are pristine, the explanations are clear and understandable. Not to mention the little cinematic (quite splendid imho) and how RAD the aircraft looks and performs. 9 out of 11, I loved it.

[@WSlopeAggie]

It tickled your towers eh

[@TheRealGamada]

@@WSlopeAggie It indeed tickled.

[@samh.6788]

22:12 Us maintainers hate you too! (lmao great vid)

[@axar_pl]

0:00 - Intro 3:39 - Introduction of LF-27 Longsword 7:01 - Building 26:21 - Cinematic 28:49 - Summary

[@luminary69revision2]

you say the landing gear section is boring there may not be much of anything to talk about there, but honestly I find it pretty interesting watching you set up the landing gear housing mostly because I'm utterly hopeless at it myself xddddddddddd

[@messier82ac]

Lol I cut like 10 minutes of stuff out of the video to keep it under 40 minutes unfortunately

[@saltyradiation706]

@@messier82ac Why did you want to keep it under 40 minutes?

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

@@messier82ac I think the people that play/watch stuff related to this game and willing to hear you talk about the engineering behind a stealth aircraft... probably wouldn't mind hearing all the other little details even if it's an hour long lol.

[@aesthetic3355]

I very much apreciate both the picture of bo and the family guy funny moments playlist, really keeps the pilot company on those longer missions.

[@PuncakeLena]

These videos of yours have ramped up massively in quality. Don't worry about video length so much when the real world information is so well explained and detailed

[@garretbernard8174]

F22, YF23, and F35 combined. A beautiful aircraft

[@CJ53790]

The gta one

[@loco4loco]

2:39 hull “a northern fishing town” was the first northern and last city to be bombed in the UK during the war and was bombed quite often and heavily tho we were spared V1/2 attacks for the most part

[@thinhnguyenduy4099]

From what I’ve seen, 5th gen fighters tend ro have excellent AoA characteristics, even the the F-35 it doesn’t have tvc or the canard configuration like the SU-37 (except the delta canard config), it could perform some insane AoA, even some post stall maneuver.

[@WSlopeAggie]

Well yeah, most stealth fighters have absolutely massive control surfaces

[@thinhnguyenduy4099]

@@WSlopeAggie bigger control surfaces have better control authority, you can move them less to control the aircraft, so it means less impact on the fighter’s rcs. Advancement in fly-by-wire tech allows for even more unstable aerodynamic design, fighters can fly and maneuver at even higher AoA and lower speed without canards or tvc

[@blockyboy1263]

Also because they have some of the most powerful engines ever out in a fighter jet inside.

[@Dennyboyo]

Great scenario playing near the end there, very ace combat-ish but orange like wingman

[@stinbray1120]

finally someone who also know about the angry red guy who wants to "protect" the people he nuked twice. in all seriousness my favorite quote comes from skill issued red man "monarch... when you hear the thunder... when the storm comes for you... remember me"'

[@v1ultrakill_X3]

man i love this mans yap sessions

[@RandomInterwebs]

I remember seeing some of the wip shots on discord, and man does it look even better completed. Fantastic work on this

[@SRK_223]

The most underrated aviation related channel! Such commitment and attention to detail! 🤘🔥 love your videos man keep it up!

[@ivanstepanov6301]

If Sukhoi had Lockheed-level budget and engineering for the Su-75.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

2 things this game needs, Multiplayer, PVP and War Thunder like controls mode, i bet would be so fun to play

[@AfterOblivion]

I haven't even watched it yet but i already can tell its gonna be great! thanks messier!

[@adense1075]

Messier we would love a longer version of your videos ! (Maybe on another channel, or a playlist of them) Amazing aircraft as always

[@stinbray1120]

i second this

[@AsdAsd-zi4uw]

26:26 Leaked Ace Combat 8 pre-alpha gameplay footage???

[@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221]

This time set in the downright batshit insane nation of Wellow in the Strangereal universe, you play as Scarlet 2, pilot of an experimental aircraft. Tasked with testing the aircraft and demarcating its abilities at first, you eventually are presented with a massive crisis in the Arctic Circle, your ticket to going down (pun intended) in history as one of the great Aces of Strangereal.

[@judet2992]

The LF-27 looks like a YF-23 and an F-35 had a baby. I like it!

[@stinbray1120]

true

[@CJ53790]

Like the gta one

[@judet2992]

@ actually yeah.

[@spacy256]

WoW iT LooKs LiKe A f35 anD a YF23 HaD the HoT Steamy Sekks!!!1!! 😮

[@messier82ac]

Lol

[@FishNamedWall]

What the Kentucky Fried F-16 Fighting Falcon Fuck did i just read

[@the_air_ocelot]

Is this an opportunity for r34 artists? Seems like an untapped market

[@theskipper1136]

Spacy, what the fuck

[@kingsnakke6888]

Oh gods, you didn't have to expose yourself as a member of NonCredibleDefense, kamerad....

[@nailujgilroy501]

Messier thank you so much for your content I praise you and your creations

[@messier82ac]

Glad you like them!

[@xxxm981]

Yes, please make a video indepth explaining modern combat plane jet engines. And maybe some of the early ones as well

[@jaredragland4707]

"We begin with the A-10, as one should, and its high bypass engine..."

[@RafaelRodrigues-jq6uc]

dude this plane looks so cool so clean bro

[@authenticNL2]

A plane made of chocolate would absorb all microwave and even radar waves too!

[@nullanonsonemmenoiocosascr6676]

Amazing design, glad the paper i sent you was useful for something, the plane looks great

[@themanwholooks3606]

First of all, your videos are getting better and better, second, your craft is Gorgeous, I myself playing Juno New Origins on mobile since my pc died, minding about buying a new one just for Flyout!

[@owenschulz9504]

That family guy and temple runners probably comes in handy during those long endurance missions

[@Aedeus]

.... I wanted to create all my dream planes in Flyout, but Messier just did the work for me... but 100x better. Thanks

[@benjaminwiese2994]

12:56 so can this can technically be a feature in the game

[@FundyTheAstronaut]

Messier82.. WONDERFUL TO SEE HOW FAR YOU HAVE GONE.

[@Tipsyweeb]

Messier really just made me want to invest in the defence industry, god dam it

[@susy411]

28:02 clever how you used the flares sound as part of the music

[@damongraham1398]

I'm curious what a B-1 with a YF-23 tail section RCS would be and look like?

[@bobbobson-dk6jl]

rlly interesting and cool design, i find it funny how to deploy countermeasures u have to increase ur radar cross section 😂

[@fjandro9646]

Great video, I really enjoyed as usual. You could make a series of "Building the best 1Gen fighter, 2Gen, 3Gen... 6Gen"

[@Wraith_Of_The_Shadows]

incredible aircraft you made and incredible video! me myslef im working on as aircraft but it's based more on DSB-LK design. as of yet top speed is about 4.7 mach with turbofans i think? has a low bypass and currently has bit stability issue in the mode it would fly in at high speeds in reality but that feature isn't ingame yet so it's not a priority:D i wish you good luck and fun

[@jimbainianmonkey182]

Beautifully edited, bravo 👏

[@RogueBeatsARG]

Plane looks Beautiful!

[@zimozim]

Amazing video man, keep it up!

[@DFX2KX]

That is a GLORIOUSLY slick looking bird. I'm impressed.

[@mr.mcmorbid]

Hey! I'm a maintainer! GA but still,, this is why I hate engineers! I knew y'all had it out for us! Awesome build and vid tho keep it coming.👍

[@davidandre8029]

It looks a bit like the Su 75 and they will probably both stay as as a dream, not enough money to produce them 😅. Anyway great video as always! (a 35 minutes video is not boring when it is entertaining)

[@Ajuzu6]

Even with all of the "incoherent rambling" I always manage to learn something about aviation from your channel. And I'm an aviation enthusiast I research aviation all the time

[@AlteryxGaming]

A very interesting design for a multi-roll stealth plane! However, I am curious why you chose the less stealthly diverter style inlets as opposed to the divertless “bulge” system used by the F-35.

[@messier82ac]

The "Bulge" In the F-35 is known as a diverterless supersonic inlet. They vastly improve intake volume at low speeds and high AoA over an intake with a diverter but aren't inherently "more stealthy" than any other stealth intake. (For example, the F-35 has a -30 frontal dBsM while the F-22, with diverters, has -40). While I wanted to do one, it would just end up looking even MORE like an F-35, which I was already getting complaints about, so I decided not to.

[@ez_theta_z9317]

@@messier82ac doesn't the splitter plate cause stealth issues with the radar bouncing around in the gap between the intake and the fuselage?

[@OzymandiasMC]

love this build and the video! reminds me of a slightly less sexy f22 or a more sexy yf23 lol

[@S1su]

They should somehow store stealth jets in the space in a vacuum so they wouldnt need as much maintenance. And the when it needs to be used get a pilot in there from the soace or something and just launch it back to earth. But if a pilot was in space in 0 gravity, going instantly to 8Gs wouldn’t be good. Unless the astronaut was in a soinning satellite that had 1G in it

[@LtPulsar]

That's a very... creative idea. It however, would most likely complicate things far more than you anticipate. For one, space requires radiation hardening, cosmic radiation in space is not only harmful to living creatures, but also sensitive electronics such as are found in avionics and guidance systems. Secondly, re-entry is massively taxing on an airframe, requiring expensive, heavy and maintenance-demanding heat shielding, which is likely incompatible with the RAM coating used to make the aircraft less visible to stealth. Not to mention that anything that just underwent re-entry would stick out like a sore thumb on infra-red sensors, being extremely hot. Plus, the logistical issues of actually getting planes, pilots, replacement parts and ordnance up to orbit are prohibitive in the extreme. We can barely get enough tonnage to orbit to do simple research right now, let alone station and staff an entire airbase. All that said, the idea sounds awesome in concept, dropping a plane out of orbit to ruin someone's day. It definitely satisfies the rule of cool.

[@Scrunkly_blorbo]

"combat has been a part of history longer than history itself" goes hard asf

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

"For example, let's (uhm) rotate this cube." *accidentally creates the worlds best stealth fighter*

[@dthree4496]

So well produced. Fucking diabolical Work

[@i3865]

Can you try to build a twin engine(one above another, like English lighning have) plane with separating drone (like Lockheed M-21).

[@Pineapplr_]

thanks for this guide! It will be of great use to me!

[@jonathanadams8835]

22:13 Would two larger bays with a Sidekick style system work better? Edit 1: Speaking of the F-35, how big are the two main weapon bays compared to the F-35's? Edit 2: Could the front bay hold two peregrine sized missiles (6 ft) diagonally without any mechanism?

[@Wayan.el.sanchez]

I was about to desing my first stealth plane in flyout, this comes in handy

[@kandd2591]

Good to know we got temple run and family guy clips included with it along with a picture of your cat

[@alg2990]

Doesn't this plane looks like the future European fighter, the FCAS ? If the FCAS is that efficient and that stealthy, it's gonna compete the F35 ❤

[@user-pk3eo6pq6m]

10:15 about here happened a small misunderstanding. the circle In theory is the perfect stealth shape because looking straight ahead it perfectly splits the radar wave into obscurity. but if its just a bit off it wont work. the opposite works with the triangle pretty much. if hit head on the dot then it will reflect straight back to you but rest of the angles ends up just reflecting the beam away from the radar.

[@user-pk3eo6pq6m]

after a 2 hour break I watched the rest and like 24:04 I am assuming you are joking but like. no that can't be done it compromises the stealthiness. in a plane like F-22 the "camo" is just the paint crisping up over time. and roundels and such is left for lead aircrafts. but you can most likely change the material's component's a little bit to give a slightly different color and to help break up some radar waves into smaller individual waves.

[@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr]

this is such a beauty, i wish i could ever make planes as well as you.

[@rb2b-ld7sw]

This shares a lot of traits with the shadow sabre, like the all moving stabilizer and the wing shape.

[@colchronic]

The govt in 2 weeks: It's crazy how messier 82 committed unliving by two gunshot wounds to the back of his head

[@LéonardTerret]

i love it, it made me think of an su-75

[@zimozim]

A very cool video idea would be to look at the history of swedish fighters and then design Swedens next version fighter, short take off and landing(maybe reverse thrust like the viggen) Maybe add canards? Yeah i think it would be cool

[@oneshotReker]

Maybe you could try to make a stealth tilt rotor aircraft to supply the LF27 or give fire support for it, like how lazerlink works on most aircraft doing CAS or SEAD, that would be really cool. The tiltrotor would also be a multirole as it could get outfitted with weaponry, while maybe having somewhat of a cargo bay for ammunition or supplies. OR maybe I'm just biased towards the Osprey and would love to see your opinion on this lol

[@tyger1st]

What would happen if you designed a plane with a backward sloping canard and a foward sloping wing that were tied together with turbulence generators on the vertical connectors? Also instead of angling the weapons carriers downward and ejecting forwards, let them slide out the back between the engines. Would that make them any less radar visible? Interesting stuff for an old Vietnam era air winger, thinki F4 Phantom.

[@stinbray1120]

was that the 4.5 gen fighter from couple vids ago also why did the front bay have to rotate couldn't you have put a hydraulic piston that lowers so it launches straight

[@MichaelStanton-e8i]

M82 never cease to amaze

[@Cipher529]

That statement or "i hate maintainers" feels like what the engineers said when designing the F-35 cause sometimes i hust want to commit sudoko whenever i work on it.

[@justcarcrazy]

22:16 Every AME's thoughts about every design engineer ever!

[@gunstick711anims9]

“easier than you think” Lockheed Martin would like to know your location

[@Juan-f4x8i]

its very funny how that man is talking like if he was selling these to some military to buy them lol

[@safeish57]

loved that cinematic

[@energonow]

i think lockheed martin skunk works wants you

[@jocax188723]

TLDR: Messier builds a Checkmate (but better)

[@amorosogombe9650]

Looks perfectly credible.

[@smolbrain8650]

What game is this i want this, I've been playing simpleplanes for a few years now so i want to test this game out

[@burpboy-]

00:01 video starts at 8:17 and ends at 26:20

[@Allthegoodhandlesaretakenlmao]

Nice video as always. Could you make a video on engines though? My engines always have 5 minutes of fuel with less thrust, and I just can’t seem to fix it.

[@mistyLmistake]

I somehow like this plane so much more then actual combat planes out there if I knew how, I would put it into wart hunter

[@SophisticatedFrog69]

If you put a turbine in your missles and make a custom input and key bimd to activate the engine you can make 6 km capable missles

[@Void08-EVA]

Looks like a 3D model I made on tinker cad I while back called the F-8 blizzard

[@NeurodivergentSuperiority]

would look better with a bubble dome cockpit, but i still LOVE this design!

[@ADR1fley]

As a maintainer, thank you for the hate, it's returned 10 fold to all engineers.

[@JayGatsby-b8w]

I am deeply disappointed that the temple run footage was not included in the cockpit. You will be hearing from my legal team about this.

[@gengisbohx_]

isn't having a 360 degree radar like flashing a light at night ? radar waves are detectables no ?

[@yakirfrankoveig8094]

What stops countries from covering their skys in radar beams using ground based and possibly satelites and have only rader detectors therfore you can use it more like eyes rather than ears meaning whatever the shape you will be able to see all of its cross section

[@abas656thegodemperor9]

Maintenance cost.

[@kertaspaper94]

With regards to the exhaust. How effective would an F-22 style flat exhaust be when it comea to reducing both radar and heat signatures ?

[@tothmatyas2177]

Okay so maybe could do you do a video/ explain that how to do custom weapons, and show it how to do it, and show which mods are you using ? (and maybe explain how to do cool weapon bays like in the cinematic)

[@isaacteo4063]

That is basically Lockheed Martin and Northop Grumman had a baby

[@astraldragon2820]

How has this guy not been hired by the air force yet!

[@3.6Turbskis]

whats up messier, i dont know how you made that 152mm cannon, was it a mod or a dev testing thing they removed?

[@messier82ac]

You can go into the files and edit the caliber of weapons to make them larger

[@3.6Turbskis]

@@messier82ac any tutorials coming soon or nah

[@biddinge8898]

I cant wait for you to make s varisble wing stealth sircraft.

[@schrimblo]

oh damn i saw you make this thing on stream lol