Unlocking the SVHO w/ RIVA Stock 8000 Reflash: The Watercraft Journal EP. 85

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The Watercraft Journal

The Watercraft Journal

3 жыл бұрын

Wanna go 75mph without voiding your warranty? RIVA Racing's Stock 8000 Reflash for the Yamaha GP1800R unlocks the SVHO engine to produce 290HP @ 7,800rpm and push our '20 GP1800R SVHO to 75mph. Read the whole article HERE: watercraftjournal.com/gallery...
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@titanmx61
@titanmx61 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content Kevin. Exactly answered all my questions about my new 2021 GP1800R SVHO.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! We're happy we could help!
@martinreagan5083
@martinreagan5083 2 жыл бұрын
Love the new 2021 GP1800R I got mine added a riva tune riva intake and ride plate my digital gauge shows 81MPH it’s probably going 78-79MPH
@NMBSUMMER
@NMBSUMMER 2 жыл бұрын
Going out with ice in the footwells, love it!
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
We walk the walk.
@pete7129
@pete7129 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome video always loved before and afters
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cyrusamini5543
@cyrusamini5543 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid... I'm planning on installing this tune. It would nice to see vids comparing other tunes available to the svho lump. 👍
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@walterbauer4841
@walterbauer4841 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you ROCK love your content Keep up the great work Brrrrrrrrrrr Just got the 2021 1800 r SVHO Now need to get the tuner so I can Pass My Brother yeah thanks Walter Brrrrrrrrrrr
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Right on! And thanks for the support.
@stwings98
@stwings98 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing those skis covered in snow broke my heart. And I ride a Seadoo!
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, we do it to prove a point. (Well, several actually.)
@StevenSynfulmindedVickery
@StevenSynfulmindedVickery Жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal What point is that
@purpskurp8737
@purpskurp8737 3 жыл бұрын
about to buy this for mine did the scom for the rxt 300 last year and i was surprisingly impressed.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
The MaptunerX tune is the exact equivalent of a SCOM for a Sea-Doo.
@fnatomagan
@fnatomagan 3 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal just way more expensive.
@ParrotHead1980
@ParrotHead1980 3 жыл бұрын
By the way thanks for this killer video. Love your 2020 GP1800R nice color. :)
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@DZOElPortavoz
@DZOElPortavoz 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dre3809
@dre3809 Жыл бұрын
Stupid question. What’s the difference between that affordable filter you put in the beginning vs a blow off valve? Can you even use these little filters you installed here on a older model like the 2018 gp1800? I just did a stage 3 and I also was looking to do the blow off valve which is like 400 bucks but then I saw this and I’m so confused lol Do I wanna do both? Thanks!
@tracyenlow8344
@tracyenlow8344 3 жыл бұрын
Given the long and ongoing history of cracked heads with the SVHO, running it hard in cold water is maybe asking for trouble. Yamaha doesn't have an answer for the cracked heads, but suspects cold shocking is playing a role aided by its open cooling system.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully the crack is located in a specific spot, and Yamaha has addressed it with the 2021 models.
@oswaldocastillo6305
@oswaldocastillo6305 Жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal nice to hear this. But cracking happened from cooling engine to fast? Some ppl idle to cool it before turning it off, idk if thats true or not
@NoPrxssure
@NoPrxssure 3 жыл бұрын
The yam yam gp was a gift from the gods
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
It's a winner.
@user-bf2wx3xv5f
@user-bf2wx3xv5f Жыл бұрын
Any idea if one can purchase a supercharger upgrade kit for the Yamaha HO engine to get SVHO performance?
@scottbonham70
@scottbonham70 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious would the engine breather and reflash work on an 2021 AR 195 boat?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Literally no clue.
@ParrotHead1980
@ParrotHead1980 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, Is it worth putting that K&N oil filter on my 2016 Yamaha VXR with 205 hours on it? Does it really make that big a difference on the Non-supercharged Yamaha's? If it does i'm going to purchase it. I always go by your advice on the yamis. :)
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Meh, you'll hear it more than you'll feel it. -K
@ParrotHead1980
@ParrotHead1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal So it's not worth it on a NA ski
@brandonjamesperez
@brandonjamesperez 6 ай бұрын
I have never reflahsed an ECU before. If I have all stock parts what is your suggestion as far as how to reflash the ECU to get the fastest results without putting the ski in too much danger?
@billybobjones4317
@billybobjones4317 2 жыл бұрын
You got bigger balls than me, getting into water where it snows lol, where I live we stay indoors if it drops to 10C, we get about three weeks in Winter where we can get down to 10 at night, during the day it's normally 24C unless it's a cloudy or rainy day then it can get down to 16C brr. I don't understand how people can live in cold places, we can be with out power for a month and no one gets hyperthermia, even in our three weeks of Winter :). The water in our area is a constant 22C, a little cool but you get used to it. Doesn't your face freeze ? the beard probably helps a little but at speeds over 45mph the wind chill would be very cool :), I would think the water spray would wake you up as well :)
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
LOL! It's not too bad when you make up your mind to ride all year long, regardless of the weather. We tease those guys who claim to "ride 365" but won't go out if its a tiny bit chilly.
@billybobjones4317
@billybobjones4317 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal Tiny bit I don't mind as I will go out riding if the temperature is only 20C as that can be 20C cooler than the middle of summer ;) but there is no way I would be out on the water if it was anything cooler than 20C :) , where as 20C is probably a nice warm day for you guys :)
@phillipsjames2244
@phillipsjames2244 3 жыл бұрын
Do you buy the map tuner x and unlock tune separate or does the map tuner come with the unlock
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Purchase of a Maptuner comes with one tune of your choice.
@Mad-i134
@Mad-i134 2 жыл бұрын
So the dealership told me to just add 89 octane fuel in the 2021 Yamaha VX unlimited. Is this true or do you recommend a higher octane ? From Southern California
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
VX Limited is naturally aspirated. It can run on 87 or 89 (or 91 if you want) without trouble.
@profiveoh
@profiveoh 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a comparable stock tune and power increase for the HO version?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
No, because the stock HO tune is not speed restricted in any way. You'd have to up to a Stage 1 tune. Call RIVA's Maptuner support with further questions.
@josephgrekoski2447
@josephgrekoski2447 3 жыл бұрын
More performance vids like this. I smell a RIVA paid sponsorship 👀
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, RIVA is a major advertiser for The Watercraft Journal. So we use, test and endorse most RIVA products.
@emjman
@emjman Жыл бұрын
So is there an engine bay blower on these machines like most boats have? I feel like that hot air mixed with oil and whatever other fumes aren't the best thing to have jam packed in an engine bay
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal Жыл бұрын
Nope
@Bangincheeks369
@Bangincheeks369 3 жыл бұрын
Is the engine breather attachment better than a catch can? Or is it just less complex?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha's do not require a catch can.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
I would contend any boosted engine needs a catch can (possible exception of Civic Type R baffled head) because they all have some blowby...most just recycle the blowby to the sump where it contaminates the oil
@WaterDR-tw8re
@WaterDR-tw8re 3 жыл бұрын
Would the results be similar with a 2019 FX SVHO?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Watch today’s “Quick Topic” video, you’ll enjoy it.
@moneymaker8278
@moneymaker8278 3 жыл бұрын
Super
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Duper!
@lf4225
@lf4225 3 жыл бұрын
What GoPro Mount do you have in the front?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
GoPro suction cup.
@abdelrifeno9606
@abdelrifeno9606 Жыл бұрын
Hello I have yamaha sho fx1800 check engine code fault 68 problem is the right handlebar (switch blue no-wake-mode) ?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal Жыл бұрын
No idea. Go ahead and look that up.
@callahan18
@callahan18 20 күн бұрын
I want this engine breather, but you say they wouldn't notice. What about in races? Is it legal for little mods like this?
@theapeman1989
@theapeman1989 2 жыл бұрын
So can we just flash this stock file and the hand held? Is the stock 8000 file free?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
When you buy the MaptunerX you're provided one tune/map, that you can switch back and forth as often as you like.
@videntemusic2465
@videntemusic2465 2 жыл бұрын
Hi If i flash it, I can put it back from the factory so as not to lose the guarantee.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
It is 100% reversible.
@johnhill2550
@johnhill2550 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work on a 2021 fx cruiser svho
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but ONLY with the factory ride plate swapped for a RIVA plate.
@Sizzerb81
@Sizzerb81 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 fxsvho. With the tuner will the speedo read past 70 mph?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, good question! Unfortunately, not much further past 70 and definitely not accurately.
@Sizzerb81
@Sizzerb81 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. Thanks for the response.
@bryandonnaud6197
@bryandonnaud6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal You know, I just did 75 on my ski last weekend. Exact same ski as yours, same color, year, model, and my speedo read 75!! Bone Stock.. It's running F ing great! 40 hrs on it now. I'm gonna research your stuff and then call you. I'd like to hit 90 or more. Perfect water where I am. Thanks.
@brad750
@brad750 2 жыл бұрын
Was there an acceleration improvement as well?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's a stock tune.
@dragshotking7776
@dragshotking7776 3 жыл бұрын
SiCk Kevin👍🏼
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jaredhays2947
@jaredhays2947 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin my dad has a 2019 FX SVHO I got him the oil breather upgrade, the riva maptunerX programmer and flashed in the stage 1 plus tune and also the Riva ride plate. We are in Nebraska so elevation is about 900-1100 feet depending on which lake we go to. Unfortunately we have only seen about 1-2 mph gain over all from complete stock setup. He has barely cracked 71 mph in 50 degree air temps cool water temp and low fuel level and he weighs about 230 pounds. Any idea as to why we aren’t seeing any better results? We were hoping to see 75 mph especially after adding the ride plate lastly, but saw maybe .3 to .5 mph increase from the ride plate. The ski is a rocket out of the hole but just thinking we should see more top end than we’re getting for the mods we did.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Stage 1 Plus with the stock impeller? That's your problem. What's your RPM?
@jaredhays2947
@jaredhays2947 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal he is seeing 7900 on the stock tach at wide open throttle, how accurate the stock tach is idk, we tried one of those TTO tachs from greenhulk and never got it to work either. We first flashed the “bone stock” tune into the ECU and saw no change in any performance at all then we did the “Stage 1 + tune” I Believe it was called, and only saw about 1.5 mph gain, then the ride plate only gained about .3 to .5 mph gain, ski is stock other than oil breather upgrade.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Forget about MPH. Pay attention to RPM. If you're not seeing over 8K (8,100-8,150 ideally), you've got a problem, and your problem is the impeller. Grab this now: rivaracing.com/i-18698460-solas-yamaha-160mm-concord-13-20-impeller.html
@jaredhays2947
@jaredhays2947 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal okay I’ll see if he’s willing this sink a couple hundred more bucks in that impeller. How come the GP1800 SVHO see’s such a big improvement with just a re flash and oil breather as compared to the FX SVHO, to our understanding the motor and “drive train” / “driveline” and even the hull are the same between the two skis just the FX is a little longer/heavier. Does the stock impeller just suck that bad on the FX? One other question. Is that factory tach reliable/correct over 8K RPM on the ‘19 FX? We noticed the speedometer is an absolute joke on the ski, it is just relative to the RPM and what speed you “should” be going in its mind for the RPM, and the speedometer max’s out at 70 and it’s not accurate anyway at 70, it shows 70 when you’re doing 67 on GPS. Does the Tach “max” out like this at say 8k or does it read true past 8K so that we can actually notice if it is turning better RPM with the impeller you listed.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and look up our videos on the current FX. We explain why.
@seadoo4life127
@seadoo4life127 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny so many people say that the Yamaha‘s don’t have enough power but they don’t realize that Yamaha restricts their horsepower for a reason. A simple tune and you are good to go.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
It's truly the most impressive before/after experience we've had on the water.
@bryandonnaud6197
@bryandonnaud6197 2 жыл бұрын
Well , since I HV the exact ski, exact color, everything, I'm gonna look into this. Is this the fastest tune for this ski?? I don't wanna go half way, I want THE fastest tune. Thanks.
@mrjon2805
@mrjon2805 2 жыл бұрын
I did 74 GPS confirmed with no mods on my 14 FX SVHO
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
We ticked the GPS at 73.1mph on a 2014 FX SVHO - some we sneaking out with delayed throttle controls.
@LarryPeteet
@LarryPeteet Жыл бұрын
I did 73 according to the speedo on my 2016 SVHO Cruiser.
@scottlovesplayingbass3495
@scottlovesplayingbass3495 2 жыл бұрын
I see the filter for the breather but there are 2 sizes. What’s the right size? I wanna do this
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Who says there's two sizes?
@scottlovesplayingbass3495
@scottlovesplayingbass3495 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal K&N site
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Go to rivaracing.com instead
@zchhrrs4590
@zchhrrs4590 Жыл бұрын
Leaving those nice skis out to get snowed in without a cover??
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal Жыл бұрын
Intentionally for the videos
@albert30121977
@albert30121977 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do this on 2016 FZR SVHO ?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly! It's the same SVHO engine!
@04tsxpower
@04tsxpower 3 жыл бұрын
Is this detected when it goes in for a service?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all.
@Matt-xf6pn
@Matt-xf6pn 3 жыл бұрын
Does a stage one tune from riva only come with one tune the 8000rpm? And is not detected when going in for service?
@04tsxpower
@04tsxpower 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-xf6pn already answered service question and no can't be detected
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Stage 1 tune can be identified by the dealership. This is NOT the Stage 1 tune.
@096085
@096085 2 жыл бұрын
I have a GP 1800R SVHO with Stage 1 plus can I say I have 300hp ?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
You're over 300HP.
@Tesstickles101
@Tesstickles101 Жыл бұрын
Might be a good idea to not put the Stickers on so Yamaha dont associate the craft with tuners to avoid warranty problem
@michaelanderson2335
@michaelanderson2335 3 жыл бұрын
IS THIS SNOWMOBILING ON ICE WATER?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!
@JonathanGarcia-pz9kw
@JonathanGarcia-pz9kw 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need a map tuner license to tune it ?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Maptuner X must have a license for each PWC it tunes.
@JonathanGarcia-pz9kw
@JonathanGarcia-pz9kw 2 жыл бұрын
Does the license come with the Maptuner?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
The first license does/can at purchase.
@VifferDude
@VifferDude 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, @2:48 you show that boost and horsepower rises substantially between 7300rpm and 7700rpm then tapers off. Why does yamaha wait until the very top end for maximum boost?. Is it possible to put a different supercharger impeller and fuelling so that boost starts build at 5000rpm and peaks at 6000rpm and tapers off at 7000rpm?. Surely, more ponies sooner, and more boost across a wider rev range will make this ski a killer?. Seems like Yamahaw (
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Anything is possible but consider who their primary buyer is first. The vast majority are cruisers who simply want a temporary thrill of squeezing the throttle. This is why so much of the SVHO’s power is delivered via the torque from displacement of the 1.8L instead of the top end horsepower.
@regularjoetac-gearshow6474
@regularjoetac-gearshow6474 Жыл бұрын
My Phoenix bass boat with a 250hp pro xp will run 75mph per gps. Something’s not adding up here.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal Жыл бұрын
Why not? Your bass boat has a very flat planing hull.
@ericsmith6677
@ericsmith6677 11 ай бұрын
funny because my H.O is the same way. it has a limiter at like 7200 rpm
@costasgeorgiou5015
@costasgeorgiou5015 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man you don't have ski covers? Lol 😂 just to think only if your were a ski journalist kevin😝😜😁
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t tow long distances with them on.
@dreknotz1996
@dreknotz1996 2 жыл бұрын
Covers = scratches on plastics and paint job.
@costasgeorgiou5015
@costasgeorgiou5015 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreknotz1996 paint fades without just don't drive with them on 😜😜
@adrianrivera3743
@adrianrivera3743 2 жыл бұрын
Does doing this void your warranty?
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 2 жыл бұрын
Yes (if you get caught)
@dawgfather2101
@dawgfather2101 2 жыл бұрын
@@watercraftjournal if you get caught? And that's my question! What do you mean? I have 2, both seadoo gtx 300 limited 2018 and 2021. I used maptuner X for a "barebones" tune, I know you can reinstall the factory tune, but I'm hearing these ECU's (for all jet-ski makers) have an rpm history it saves and when you take your ski in that's what the dealer looks at for warranty! So even if you reinstall factory tune (maptuner X saves) they still know! Is this true? If so, there is no way to tune a ski without voiding the warranty.....which sucks because these skis are way more fun with a good tune!
@EinsteinTeachedYou
@EinsteinTeachedYou 3 жыл бұрын
Come do mine
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Nah. You can do this at home.
@wreckdiver61
@wreckdiver61 3 жыл бұрын
They should be maxed out from the factory. Why would you make something that doesn’t take reach it’s fui potential. Same with motorcycles and snowmobiles.. I’m tired of company’s trying to “save me from myself” because of lawyers.
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
Your anger is misplaced. Be mad at lawyers and the morons they represent who gave us the need for these regulations in the first place.
@nsaadaie
@nsaadaie 3 жыл бұрын
68mph is plenty fast out of box and above that speed a lot can go wrong. It's best an enthusiast unlocks the extra power willingly, because 75mph + is mind boggling fast and isn't for novices.
@jimclark6883
@jimclark6883 10 ай бұрын
I quit doing mods like this for what I feel is very marginal gain in speed and voiding my warranty for the cost and labor involved to do this stuff. Not worth it Kevin!
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 10 ай бұрын
It's absolutely worth it if you know how to work on your own stuff. -K
@puscifer03dude52
@puscifer03dude52 9 ай бұрын
You can hit 82 mph
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 9 ай бұрын
Not with just a SCOM
@bubbavasquez1744
@bubbavasquez1744 3 жыл бұрын
My 2021 Ex Deluxe get any faster flashing it or no? Ty
@watercraftjournal
@watercraftjournal 3 жыл бұрын
No not really. Save your money for a supercharged ski later!
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