Unraveling Chris Chan's Biggest Delusion

[@LoreCattleRanch]

Chris is a MUCH better artist than me

[@cancerousretard7977]

GiBi yo don’t worry I suffer from extreme anxiety as well and depression I understand

[@tomh.5750]

@Bulldoggernaut well share it with us too we're fucking hungry for anything

[@Trollgaming1987]

Same he is better than me

[@axllaw427]

But you are a better person than him

[@MalachiCo0]

I'm sorry you have anxiety problems my dude

[@valiox7506]

Chris believed the sonichu universe was real years ago. Remember when he didn't want to killoff a stolen character in his comic because he thought he would kill her in the sonichu universe.

[@YaMamasAss]

Yeah, don't know where people are getting that this is something new. He's always believed in this.

[@YaMamasAss]

@Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem *He's always believed in this. As in, "He has always believed in this." I know it's not proper, but that should be inferred. And you can blame his parents for never getting him proper care and teachings about his disability. He's a bad person himself, but his parents are pieces of shit.

[@killtokyo5268]

Or when he thought they’d hate their names so he chooses carefully

[@mryoshi1221]

yeah, and this belief stemmed at least 10 years ago.

[@carlwheezer1030]

Yessss so glad other people noticed this

[@SlimbTheSlime]

Hook: Chris-Chan video Transition: Dreams Main point: Drugs can doo spooky stuff Evidence: Drugs do spooky stuff to me Conclusion: Drugs might be doing spooky stuff to Chris

[@sourbrothers73]

Yeah that pretty much breaks it down, lol.

[@DreamingGeno]

This reminds me of the case of the dude who had lived an entire life in his dreams, but was awoken when he realized that his lamp in his dreams looked odd.

[@Hu-WhyteMan]

@@user_name_redacted nah he got punched in his face and ktfo.

[@GGEvan317]

As someone who's diagnosed with a mild form of Autism, I can see a lot of myself in Chris Chan. What could have been and what could still yet to be.

[@crustacrank]

i’m autistic too, and honestly, that’s one of the reasons i’ve been so enraptured by chris’s existence. i doubt you’ll end up anything like chris, even though you have similarities. autism isnt a sliding scale, it’s a spectrum. not to mention chris is the worst possible person to represent the autistic community

[@darkclaws1234567891]

I have a mild form of autism but I don't see myself in Chris chan

[@Brandonhayhew]

I have autism, Chris chan, when i look at him i can see myself in him. I can end up like Chris chan if I don’t get a job or go outside daily.

[@elijahgavin6706]

@@Brandonhayhew I don’t think you’ll become vicariously delusional just from being a hermit

[@strifer2781]

I’m not sure if I’m autistic but man the fact I can see some of myself in Chris chan makes me want to puke

[@AxelWedstar411]

*Chris suffers a mild stroke* "Ah yes, my psychic powers are kicking in!"

[@mr.vidjagamez9896]

I am personally going with the Chris is a god theory.

[@windandfireproductions5358]

Are you joking or are you serious

[@virding232]

@@windandfireproductions5358 Who would joke about that? No, he's quite serious.

[@windandfireproductions5358]

@@virding232 because Chris being a god is very very very unlikely

[@xanderdoesnt]

@@windandfireproductions5358 Are you being serious¿

[@windandfireproductions5358]

@@xanderdoesnt yes because Chris is probably just delusional

[@Interloper783]

I'd kill for an entire video of you just talking about your dreams and experiences in that parallel dream universe. That's incredibly interesting.

[@chelledoggo]

Seroquel dreams sound simultaneously cool as heck and horrifying as FUCK.

[@AyyLmaoPhuckYou]

Try sleeping on LSD

[@theumbrellacorporation1523]

I takes Seroquel, I can say it’s not horrifying.

[@iBrendan1579]

@@theumbrellacorporation1523 but it does happen, does it not? As someone who takes this medicine, do you think GiBi's theory is true?

[@theumbrellacorporation1523]

@@iBrendan1579 Personally, I never get strange dreams or nightmares on Seroquel but I imagine others like GiBi may have different reactions to the SSRI depending on their medical history. Antipsychotic prescription should be taken seriously as 2 people who take the same medication may experience completely different side effects.

[@ArgyleGroove]

What if Chris is asleep and we're all in his dream?

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

You could make a whole twin peaks like show set in Chris Chan's mind it'll be mental

[@doxiedaddy7784]

Chriszazoth,the blind idiot godchu

[@pachylordtaco2128]

oh... well I’m not sleeping tonight

[@pentelegomenon1175]

"if"?

[@chimedemon]

… *oh fuck.*

[@YourUncleBenis]

I don't know much about how brain damage works, but do you remember that issue of Sonichu when they went back in time to Chris' high school days? In the comic, he gets hit on the head with a basketball, and that's when he invents Bionic, his first Sonic OC. Presuming that this is in any way accurate, is it possible for him to have been hit hard enough that his delusions started way back then with Bionic the hedgehog, but nobody really took notice? I mean, I'm pretty sure he always believe Cwcville to be real, so is it possible that the untreated damage caused by that blow to the head is what led to this?

[@Porkchop_Delight23]

People who have any kind of lasting brain damage from a blow to the head are usually hit hard enough to cause a concussion. The blow is typically hard enough to cause the brain to bounce around and hit the insides of the skull despite the cushion of fluid around it. I don't want to say never, but it's highly unlikely getting hit in the head with a basketball would cause any type of lasting damage. It's something that happens in gymnasiums constantly and there'd be a ban on basketballs in schools if they were _that_ potentially dangerous. What led to Chris' current state of mind is a cognitive degeneration that is typical of people who don't get proper treatment and help in dealing with their disability.

[@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901]

@Jotaro97 that's really reaching. Not impossible but not something that's worth believing with what we know

[@YourUncleBenis]

@@Porkchop_Delight23 Thanks for the clarity on that.

[@YourUncleBenis]

@Jotaro97 It's possible, but unverifiable.

[@UyllS]

@Jotaro97 or he blacked out and then had a dream? I passed out a few times because of head trauma and sometimes when im out i dream these really foggy dreams about godly beings. Maybe chris had the same. Head trauma dreams are weird.

[@The_Wosh]

In a less serious note, I find it funny that if the merge was real, sperit would merge with a sperit and the thought of that thing walking around just makes me giggle

[@Graveyard55]

What would walk around

[@The_Wosh]

@@Graveyard55 a sperit

[@GT-wj3gl]

Do you mean Spirit?

[@MalachiCo0]

@@GT-wj3gl No Dammit. GiBi made a video on this. Go find it and watch it.

[@The_Wosh]

@@GT-wj3gl no

[@Doughboy842]

These are very good theories. I also have a theroy or two about his delusions. With all the years of torment and trolling and all his potential sweethearts turning out to be trolls time and time again. He's reached a point where he kinda realises his chances of scoring a sweetheart is low. Even lower due to his notorious internet fame. Being screwed up in the head and increasingly paranoid. I feel he possibly gave up looking for a real sweetheart and decided to date and marry his fictional characters as he feels he's never gonna get the real thing. And that he feels safer with his characters in his mind and is another escapism as the real world hasn't been good to him. Further and gradually withdrawing from reality. His sweethearts who are his characters he can feel confident in his mind. Without the fear of being hurt or catfished again. And his delusions and wishful thinking is very likely result of further desire to withdraw from the real world to eventually shunning the outside. As things look bleaker for him. The further away he'll try to detach from reality.

[@puscifer99]

I think he is late stages psychosis due to the amount of bullying and torment he received...

[@patrickkelmer6290]

@Oggy A friend of mine who works with autistic people said that many people who actually are schizophrenic are as children often misdiagnosed as autistic. I absolutely believe it is the case here, all taken together with the fact how sheltered and spoiled he was by his parents.

[@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle]

@@patrickkelmer6290 Not to mention his loud conversations with his own characters he has in public (If I recall correctly the first reported case happened in like 2004 when he had such a conversation with Sonichu in Front of Mary Lee Walsh)

[@patrickkelmer6290]

@@NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle Yes, and it sounds really creepy.

[@TheDragonRelic]

So basically his stress clicked him out from our present reality

[@SabbyNeko]

Man... that ending spoke to me. I have Autism, and found Chris Chan a few years ago, and now I'd say I'm fairly learned on the history. The guy is a serious cautionary tale for those on the spectrum who grew up with internet access, and following him has actually helped me out a lot.

[@addybishop308]

I know that this comment is very late but I’ve watch genosamuels documentary and it’s only up to about 8 years ago. Jumping ahead to now there is a lot missing. I’ve been watching you and dillin Thomas trying to catch up but was lost. A viewer recommended this as a video to help explain things. What I was NOT expecting was your frank discussion about your prescription induced dreams. I’ve had my own frightening experience and I’ve never heard someone talk about their dream world in the same way. Mine started while I was in the hospital for other physical issues. I have severe anxiety and sleep issues. My heath status increased that. My medications were shuffled around due to the complications with my physical issues and increased anxiety. To keep it short I started having ultra realistic dreams that were just like the people and places in my real life but different. I had an understood history in my dreams and was terrified. I’d also do things while asleep like ripping out my iv and waking up confused. The nurses gave me more medicine to calm me down, I’d fall asleep and things got worse. I got to the point where I was afraid to fall asleep. I stayed awake paralyzed by the thought I didn’t know where I’d go when I slept. I did finally get help and am much happier now. I’d go into so much more detail because I just want to gush but really what I want to say is you aren’t alone and I’m glad to hear that I’m not either. I wouldn’t wish these experiences on anyone but hearing someone mirror a time when I thought I’d snapped has truly meant so much to me. There’s a big difference between a dr explaining that “it happens” and hearing someone who understands. Sorry for the length but....Thank you. More than I can express.

[@kenjidev576]

GiBi has seen your comment, and so have at least 4 others. KZbin's always watching.

[@addybishop308]

KenjiDev I appreciate that :D I’ve never heard someone talk about that experience. It truly made me so happy.

[@godscalledwayne]

you have my resect for being comfortable with sharing such personal topics in your videos. I must agree, Chris´ delusions are probaly a combination of all of those things. I hope we will someday know more about the cause of his delusions and how it affects someone like Chris.

[@Graveyard55]

I believe that his brain will be preserved in a jar and will be studied when he passes away

[@griggpev]

Anxiety has been hitting me like a slow drip today, it’s 5am and i still can’t sleep. Hearing you talk about your experiences with anxiety is one of the most calming and reassuring things I’ve experienced in a while, and I’m grateful for this video

[@CircusOfVideos]

Thank you for sharing your own experience Gebi.

[@knightscroftsquire-muldoon]

Your descriptions of your dreams on seroquel are on point. Though I didn't take that in specific, Medication dreams are not the same as normal dreams. Good luck with your Anxiety.

[@rustyshackleford234]

For multiple months after my cat died, I would always see her. It was really weird and it was driving me crazy as sometimes it felt so real that I would call for her to come for me. Though throughout the months afterwards these weird hallucinations started going away. Same thing kinda happened recently when my girlfriend’s dog died, every time I went to her house I’d always see the dog walking in from another room in the corner of my eye. I thought it was just me as I do randomly get visual and audible hallucinations, nice to know other people get it too!

[@TheDragonRelic]

When we stress our minds create new alternate realities or universes or whatever (I won’t argue wether or not they are “real”) but subjective to you they are. Though, don’t let your subjectivity get in he way of our shared reality.

[@DMSteeley]

"If Earth had a protagonist, it would be Chris." High five

[@thesillygoosemuffin3940]

Who would win? Shaggy at 100% power or Chris-Chan after the dimensional merge

[@Nightmare77110]

The Silly Goose Muffin Shaggy, doesn’t even need to use 10% of his power

[@kenjidev576]

What0s it with shaggy and ultra instinct? That meme went over my head

[@arieson7715]

The DOOM Slayer at maximum rage.

[@anaveragegamingchannel1843]

Shaggy would have to win to save all of us from Chris's reign of autism.

[@doxiedaddy7784]

Stalemate

[@NyaandereGaming]

Thank you for sharing your personal experiences and insight

[@danielz.9817]

I think Chris does not believe all this, he wants to believe it and pretends to believe it because it's his only way escape his real life and he knows that this gets him attention that he needs to get donations. He is more self aware than people think.

[@V2ULTRAKill]

I really dont think he is that self aware If you pay attention to his past it is much more likely that this is all real to him

[@DonnieDoodles]

We are talking about the same CWC that thinks that diapers are for babies, but literally shitting your pants like a baby is a-ok. Think about that for a moment.

[@AssassinKillua15]

That could be the case if it weren't for Chris fucking a cardboard cutout, pepper spraying an employee over Sonics arms, trying to hit someone with his car, causing a fire in his home because he tried to brew coffee In the bathroom, groping someone in public ...ect ect. He clearly has something wrong with him.

[@Yummicookie1979]

He cut himself open to expose the vaginal he knew he had and tried to keep the wound from closing. That is not self aware!

[@vicentgalvan70]

Don't forget the un-clit.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

Haters gonna hate, screw em, keep doing the vids , it is cool to hear each person who does these to share there own take and interpretation on Chris Chan

[@juliagrier3310]

GiBi I'm so thankful for the videos you make and especially opening up about your own expereicnes to help others understand why Chris might be the way he is, I suffer from the same dreams and it makes life very difficult to differentiate between the real world and what my brain wants the real world to be like, however watching your videos talking about Chris' deteriorating life helps me to not fall into that same oblivion and be thankful for the life and loved ones I have and I'm sure the same goes for many others.

[@OpossumOnTheMoon]

I’m on 300 mg of seroquil and never hear people talk about the dream effect of it! Almost all of my dreams are linked and are like an tv show. My most reoccurring one is that I have the ability to fly and turn invisible, but I actually have to focus to be able to enact these abilities. And these always occur in my high school that is also a space ship. Talking to others about these dreams make them look at me weirdly. THANK YOU for bringing this phenomenon to light!

[@christopherlowery3797]

Oh man, I remember those Seroquel hunger pangs, it’s like you can eat until you’re stuffed and are *still* starving.

[@Porkchop_Delight23]

I was put on a drug called Geodon (Ziprasidone) while hospitalized for severe depression (bipolar II), which is an antipsychotic. It works fine for some people but in my case it actually caused even worse psychosis and hallucinations. I was seeing geometric patterns on everything and weird color saturations, both awake & asleep, and when I did actually sleep it was hyper-realistic. My dreams were exactly like you describe in your video, I couldn't distinguish between something that actually happened and a dream. For example, I had a horrific dream that I killed my cat by ripping it apart with my bare hands, and woke up screaming and sobbing. For the next few days I was racked with guilt and would start crying, as if I had really done it, even though I knew my cat had died years earlier and I hadn't really done it. When you're in a state like that, even though your mind still knows common sense, the images and feelings still feel more real than reality and there's nothing you can do about it. I was on 11 different medications (some for other health reasons) and I didn't know what was causing what side effects, or if I was just losing my shit. When I got home, I had a dream I was paralyzed from the hips down and when I woke up I sat in bed crying for half an hour, afraid to move, to just find out if it was true or not. I stopped taking the Geodon and ALL the hallucinations and dissociation stopped. Mine were caused by the drug, but I thought, what if that's what having schizophrenia is like for some people if they're NOT on any drugs!? If anything, it made me more empathetic and sympathetic towards other people with mental illness. Which is why it disturbs me to see people who find what Chris is going through as funny entertainment. You just don't point and laugh at someone who has fallen on the ground and then walk on. *_Regardless_* of what he says or does, or his attitude, whether he's "narcissistic" or "delusional," the fact remains that he is a person who doesn't deserve that, even if he is putting himself out there on the internet.

[@Porkchop_Delight23]

My personal take on the situation is that Chris' parents were part of the problem, they probably had their own problems and neglected him to a point. I too retreat into a fantasy world in order to escape aspects of reality I can't cope with. It's a natural thing for the human brain to do, in order to avoid dealing with something horrible in reality, even if it's just something like neglect. We can't live in a bubble, we can't survive alone as an island, we need human interaction to maintain some essence of sanity. I think by making videos, Chris was reaching out in the only way he knew how for human interaction. He probably should have been put into a controlled, structured life early on (I hate to use the term "institutionalized" because it invokes a negative image), but his parents didn't want to or couldn't for whatever reason. I don't want to make assumptions about his life. But he should have been shielded from society, in order to avoid a situation like what is unfolding before us, and also _to protect other people_ from his bizarre actions, would could very well turn out injuring people or worse. His mental state needed consistent monitoring and being in a special institution would have structured his life, taught him some level of self-sufficiency, and redirected his energies toward positive things rather than retreat into fantasy.

[@Porkchop_Delight23]

It's important to note that I'm as interested in Chris as well, I'm not going to be hypocritical and say no one should take an interest in Chris. I think GiBi's videos are good and especially this one that potentially help others suffering with mental illness issues, because having others to relate to is important. Quietly suffering alone is the _worst_ part of mental illness. The feeling that you're not alone and there are others out there going through the same thing as you is incredibly liberating. It's a relief that helps you sort of reset your life and begin to go on in acceptance rather than fear, shame and embarrassment.

[@twotonedearly]

I think you hit the head on the nail. Bob and Barb had a chance to get Chris into Special Ed class when he was in Elementary School, instead they fled the county to keep Chris in normal school due to Bob believing Special Ed means putting Chris in an asylum and possibly facing a lobotomy.

[@antonsaysyee]

Yeah I feel like you really described this perfectly. I too enjoy messing with people a bit and could see myself provoking someone in the same sense liquid Chris did for a bit but it honestly pains me to watch some of the things that Chris has gone through. The fate of the sonichu medallions and all the fake girlfriends especially. I only recently became intrigued watching the pewdiepie video on it around when it was released but then forgot about it for a bit only to find myself revisiting because of a refernace in some other video and then realizing there was so much I didn't know about him and it was all out there. I really agree on the fact that it has been handled wrong and as someone who had seen a close friend go through a similar mental state bringing up memories of us meeting fictional characters, often video game characters, I can say because of seeing and defending him against the people that bullied him that bullying the belief out of him will definitely only make things worse but just agreeing on it makes him believe it more because of the approval of someone trusts. Although it helped his happiness, which is what we needed at the moment, it became annoying pretty quick and we wanted to see him do better obviously

[@antonsaysyee]

Honestly he needs comfort from someone he trusts and needs them to introduce him to the fact that it isn't real but that's okay. Chances are no men can do it because he has said he doesn't trust 99.996 percent of men, excluding him and his father. With that being said his father has since passed away and he's gotten to the point where he no longer trusts men so much that he refuses to be one and finds comfort around only women. He needs a woman he trusts to tell him the truth but with all the fake girlfriends throughout the years he may even be cautious of that. The best choices would probably be one of his "gal pals", Megan, or his mom. Lately it seems like his mom barely knows at all what's going on and with how he was already when the internet was introduced to him it seems like she'd be a bad choice. Lately it seems like he's been begging Megan to reenter his life and has been using the dimensional merge to make it happen. Some recent video of his talking about the event he said she has a huge role in all of this and being that she is CPU blue heart and probably much more I don't remember but it's out there on Chris' own KZbin channel from very recently and he's called himself cpu blue heart multiple times and he claimed he wouldn't try to touch her or anything like before because he's now in 3 different marriages I guess. Touching was a large reason she cut him off in the first place so to me that definitely seemed like a plea to bring her back into his life and bringing him into reality, although it could, I seriously doubt megan would be up for helping and who would blame her. I'm sure she's been bothered often from Chris and christorians for years and that was a short and less meaningful time in her life I'm sure she'd love to just forgot and have nothing to do with

[@hihello3204]

Hey Gibi, love your chris chan content. I totally didn’t take your tulpa video as a diagnosis-but it was a really convincing theory! You’ve inspired me to make a Chris video of my own, mostly about the cult surrounding him in more recent events. Keep doing what you do!

[@EmilyElizabethxox]

It was a trip hearing you describe your Seroquel dreams. I take Seroquel as a backup sleeping medication and whenever I take it my dreams are so vivid that if they’re sad or disturbing I will actually wake up in a bad mood and it takes a lot to shake these thoughts. Not what I was expecting from this video, but thanks none the less.

[@ichigomomomiya3769]

Thank you for opening up about your anxiety. It's very comforting to hear your experience.

[@NostalgiaUnicorn]

I've had those kinds of consistent dreams since I was a kid, without medication. It's weird to hear someone else share that they have dreams with the same consistency but also comforting. I thought it was just me.

[@chandranapier2259]

Same. The layouts being consistent also ring home to me. Not all my dreams are consistent but quite a few will take place in the same environment that only exists in my dreams, example being a much bigger, high scale of my current home.

[@NostalgiaUnicorn]

I can't believe I found validation for something that's worried me for a lot of my life on a Chris Chan video. Pretty awesome.

[@joaomartins814]

This reminded me of the comic "Long Sleep" by Junji Ito

[@sceneable8437]

Possibility number 6 - The trolls caused it. Think about it; Chris has been through so much shit, that he has become depressed, so he eats like shit; he became insane and now is going through possibly fatal seizures. It is the fault of the trolls, those who sat there and did nothing when they knew the severity of the trolling, and those who even egged on the trolling. How about we drop the torment and trolling, and tell these immature and wreckless trolls *no.* And then, when trolling has decreased, begin to constructively criticize Chris, more and more as the trolling depletes. Even if you think it’s hopeless for Chris, don’t contribute to his insanity. And if we fail, and nothing has stopped and Chris still dies, at least we can know we tried.

[@nekomaru856]

You are an idealistic fool to think this would work or even that it could be organized, but the world would be a better place if others thought the same.

[@tophatgeo]

Sceneable Got to agree on you with that. People crossed the line from bullying to ruining this man’s life. Did he deserve it? Who knows. The trolls got a reaction and that’s what they enjoy, it’s hard to tell whether or not it will stop.

[@opadrip]

He was a sicko before he got trolled. You can't just "troll" someone into getting a seizure you fucking white knight.

[@thisismyname5657]

Mental illness like this goes much deeper than people just being assholes to him. It's a gross oversimplification of such a complex matter and it does a large disservice to those who suffer from it and to the legitimate science and research that has been put into studying these sorts of issues.

[@sadstarfish7]

Chris doesn't take constructive criticism as just that, he takes it as a personal attack

[@xjkappax]

Thank you for opening up, I am glad you have a good support network, I've had a few dreams like that and it's hard as balls, take care man, best wishes. Honestly hearing you talk about playing dungeons and dragons just makes me remember how much I miss playing and the people I used to play with., feeling nostalgic now.

[@flanderfiend2759]

Anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds make more realistic dreams because it forces you to identify with your subconscious, at least more than what you are used to. IOW it's just bringing you to a normal state of interaction; a state in which you are not so high-strung all the time. I've had the same experience on Zoloft and Lexapro with the dreams and anger, however, I developed some insomnia because of it. Every one has something different to experience.

[@hardboiled2987]

Im keeping this take in mind. Really curioud about the subconscious aspect

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Sounds like a good time, but I do not trust anti-depressants anymore. Nor anti-anxiety unless they are benzos or depressants.

[@jesnemo2677]

Somehow missed this one so I’m glad you recommended it in one of your recent videos. I know some things have changed over a year but I think the points you hit in this video are relevant and I applaud you for sharing your own personal experiences. SoMe years back I went through a rollercoaster of depression/anxiety and addiction to my meds from my back injury and was misdiagnosed with greater psychiatric issues and treated for them. I can attest to the symptoms you mention and the confusion to reality it creates. Moving forward I’m thankfully in a better place and planning to do more research into the topic of maladaptive daydreaming and Chris Chan is such an interesting example as I think even with recent evidence there is some part of it he believes in, even if it’s just subconscious to alleviate the stagnation of his life. I really wish he’d find the help and support he needs as it’s just sad and frustrating to watch despite the fact I find myself feeling like a shitty voyeur at times. Thank you for your respectful approach to this as opposed to some folks out there who solely do it as ridicule. I appreciate people like you and genosamuel. take care xx

[@Tkokat]

Your personal story was captivating, I'm sorry you had to go through all of that. I hope everything is working out for you nowadays. Huge fan of your channel.

[@R33fth3b33f]

I believe there's a mental dimension the crazy, the creative and the genius can only access.

[@TJay423]

seraquel has been one of the only medications that effectively manages my bipolar symptoms, of which one of the biggest is anxiety, & i appreciate your willingness to share your condition and what tool(s) were used to help mediate it. good job man. keep up the dope videos, too.✌🏻

[@everettlopez9127]

If you plug your nose in a dream you’ll still be able to breathe through it. That’s usually how I tell if I’m dreaming

[@rosethaturtl_2812]

Same here!

[@bridgetg832]

I cried when I watched this. I have a fairly similar situation with my dreams despite not having a medication that causes it. I didn't know that there were more people like me.

[@ArahabakinoKami]

I have this kind of dreams a lot. Some are so intense that get me feeling bad for days. Hope you feel better someday, my dude.

[@Zerochimp]

As someone who has watched just about everything I could get my eyes on--regarding the entire Chris/Christine saga--I have to say that I haven't heard of this before. I usually alt + tab while listening/watching KZbin vids, and I was completely zoned in with the mention of Seroquel and the dream scenarios. Very good coverage, Devon.

[@toxigenic]

Thank you for sharing your experiences with dreams. I found it very interesting and some of it really resonated with my own experiences. Keep up the good work!

[@catmousam6068]

Thank you for sharing your personal experiences about the side effects caused by your medication. I've never heard of that before, and I commend you for opening yourself up to the internet

[@ATM180]

I take a decently high dosage of paxil (for anxiety) and my dreams are incredibly vivid. I will go through entire days and weeks in dreams, I will feel pain, they are so real. I have found that keeping a journal by my bed recording when I go to bed, when I wake up and what I see in my dreams helpful for differentiating dreams from reality.

[@rosethaturtl_2812]

Devon, thanks for posting this video and thanks for your willingness to be vulnerable with your fans. I too struggle with mental illness (and I am autistic) and I'm constantly afraid that I'll be just like Chris. I have been watching your videos for almost a year now, and somehow it took me that long to come across this one. To know that I'm not alone, and that someone I look up to feels the same... it's comforting. I'm glad I found your videos. Your insights are helpful, enlightening, and shared with sensitivity. Thanks again for all you do.

[@sashizakura9124]

Terry Davis was the very first person I thought of when I found out Chris was now suddenly a goddess and predicting this dimensional merge bullshit. I think he's heading in that direction. All it's going to take now is for him to lose his shit and start becoming abusive toward his mother (though that's unlikely, since she...doesn't seem terribly coherent, and much less is she capable of criticizing Chris to the point of enraging him anymore), or otherwise doing something to make himself homeless. My guess is one of his white knight enabler pals from the farms would pick him up anyway (LOL), but even they would tire of his crazy rantings eventually and end up alone and who knows what else. Terry Davis was an accomplished and respectable individual before he started becoming ill. There is no comparison with Chris, there. Only, as you said, the age when the illness started to set in, and the kind of delusional thinking is similar. It's a good comparison that way.

[@rockhistoria2537]

He did end up hurting his mother, just not in the usual way...

[@AnikiPlay]

and i was "wrongfully" put onto anti depressent at 11 for 7 years, add absolutly no dream for this length of time and felt like my life was on auto pilot and my conscience was on the back seat, after stoping medication add the most vivid and brutal dream for 3 to 4 night where i wake up drench in sweat and head about to burst. i am now today riddled with anxiety for never having to properly confronte my stress in a healthy way

[@Sephiroth3239]

It’s scary. I often can’t tell the difference between dreams and reality and have to ask my fiance if the event actually happened. Anti depressants are a wonder but also a wild scary life.

[@aussied]

My heart goes out to you regarding your anxiety and vivid dreams. I'm sorry about the confusion and frustration that causes you. I'm glad that you're able to talk to a doctor about it though. Best of luck moving forward, dude!

[@a.j.whelpley2551]

Yeah I agree seroquel dreams are very vivid and can impact your life in a negative way without supervision

[@R33fth3b33f]

Your seroquel dreams sound like the way I have dreams. I've got my own dream realm where I actually love revisiting a past location I've dreamt up. I've been dreaming a town bit by bit and the central location is this mega hotel complex in the middle of a convention. Things are lucid and I'm in control of everything and I love being connected to it because I basically created it.

[@upartas7738]

Yeah i have that too. Its fun and all but the fear of lossing your connection to reality scares the absolute shit out of me

[@HomeNuke]

The way you describe your dreams and the alternate worlds you exist in are exactly what I've been trying to describe to people in my own life.

[@McDinkledorfM.D]

I just listened to you explain the effects of the medication you take and it may have been the most interesting thing I've heard in years. Thanks!

[@DangerousPerson]

I weirdly have the same experience with my dreams. the way u describe it is down to a tea for me. its like jumping into another world and tho the places are places II know they look different and I still end up in these places and it's been going on for years. what's strange is I dont take any medication. I'd love to see more videos about the dream stuff and tulpas.

[@chandranapier2259]

I’ve had very vivid dreams for years and I can still recall some. They’re very complicated. As a result I have a fascination with dreams and love hearing about others experiences.

[@yogsothoth8389]

I’m late to this channel, but I wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your personal stories of anxiety and medication. I checked out your video because I find Chris Chan fascinating in a morbid-curiosity sort of way. But it was your discussion of dreams that really connected with me. I have a similar type of dream life, but I don’t take seroquel and my dream world has been as it is for most of my life as I know it. I’m well familiar with the idea and feeling of the dream world being a parallel dimension of sorts. I’ve got a long history of dream/memory overlap. I’ve never heard anyone else describe their dream life in a way that resonated so much with my own experiences. I actually enjoy my dream life. Once when I was prescribed a medication that had the unfortunate side-effect of shutting down that dream life, I told my doctor that I couldn’t allow that, and I wanted a different med. There’s a lot more to these stories of mine but I won’t drag you through all that. Anyway, thank you very much for such a thoroughly intriguing, thought-provoking, and multi-layered video. I got more out of it than I expected.

[@meenerman7693]

amazing video, your personal experience has helped give deeper insight into CWC. thank you for your coverage on the main character of our world.

[@kariasimova1251]

I completely agree with the Seroquel bit. I was on it for a few years and have PTSD-like symptoms from one of the 'dreams' I had. A whole big can of worms I won't open, but I felt my input was helpful.

[@IntelGoesHard]

I'm under the belief that It's 100% possible to be traumatized by dreams. I had horrific dreams while on an antidepressant that felt 100% real. I also had a psychotic break at that time. It was horrible. I still have ticks from that time that have been persistent ever since.

[@CDC1357]

thats freaky about the dreams... i tried some of my moms Seroquel one day when i was having a mental breakdown, that night i dreamt the absolute most vivid dream i have ever seen. it was me in the back of my moms old car from when i was maybe 5-7 leaving the parking lot of a store, i remember how extremely clear everything was, i even looked at the passing grass on the side of the road at all the detail. i woke up extremely confused and kind of scared

[@stoopiosproductions3130]

Gimme some of that

[@CDC1357]

i forgot to mention some freaky shit happened too. in the dream, the 'camera' slowly panned to the front seat where my mom was, it slowly went to her face and it was covered in darkness and distortion and glitch, until a demon jump scared me and i woke up

[@Narull]

Years later I watch this and your description of being on seroquel is amazingly perfect, I'm also on it though maybe I'm on a higher dose as the sleepy thing has never gone away even after years and I regularly spend days wondering if something really happened or if it was a dream, often about friends and I'm too scared to ask them if 'X' really happened because well....I'd seem crazy. Know it's off topic to the Chris chan stuff, but seriously amazing explanation of what it's like to be on that drug.

[@JohnnyJohnstonÖ]

I don’t even take medicine yet I just experience this kinda dream stuff all the time

[@TheGirAddict]

So the little thing about seroquel dreams explains so much to me about my past when i took them thank you

[@adjacentphilosophy680]

Fantastic presentation. Btw, your description of dreams was spot on, I dream like that. I thought it was normal, but comments makes me second guess that.

[@jejethejeplalq821]

All of these theories are false. The real reason is because he watched Rick and Morty. I'm not joking. Chris already believed that fictional characters were real thus growing really attached to them and believing everything they said. It's easy to see where he gets all this dimensional stuff from.

[@Snowymae]

Now 4 years later Chris believes he is Jesus

[@Iwakoicon]

I know that this video came out a couple years ago, but I wanted to say thank you for sharing your experience with your dreams. It definitely helped me understand your theory on Chris, but I understand that it was probably difficult to share something so personal with the internet. I hope things are going well for you, GIBI!

[@cordeliaspecific]

well done on describing tulpas. that shit's brutal and hard to put into words.

[@sonyalinkov7475]

Is it weird that I love my seroquel dreams? It's like going to see the best movie of my life every night.

[@petermichaelsprivateinvest5129]

this video has several qualities of a david lynch film. like, you're starting with talking about chrischan, and then it turns into a really deep and actually really, really interesting tale about your drug induced dreams. you're a very interesting guy, dude. i'm subscribing just in case you make something else like this video

[@srka42]

I’ve been dealing with dreams like this what feels like my whole adult life, thank you so much for verbalizing it as well as you did.

[@BathroomCube]

wait seroquel is why ive had these dreams? damn that explains a lot about middleschool.

[@pamharvestcraft]

Holy crap, your medical induced dreams sound exactly like the type of dreams I have. I've never heard of someone having such real dreams with constant maps and such. I luckily don't suffer every day with such dreams, but they are often. Thank you for opening up.

[@wangflop]

This is honestly one of the most interesting videos to me on KZbin. For a short period in my life I have also experienced dreams like that. I never have been on medication though. Now that I have gotten to experience different kinds of "party drugs", I have not had any of those kind of dreams anymore. I don't know if any of the drugs I've used have been useful in that regard, or the experiences I've gained under the influence. But I'm glad it's over and I can really empathise with your situation. Either way, great video.

[@PomahPon]

14:30 a week's time in a dream state. Crazy stuff man. Imagine when we have the technology to tap into dreams.

[@IAmAndrew1]

I dunno why it is exactly, but this video really hit me hard. I hope you're doing well, man.

[@Tyingful]

i had no idea the bizarre consistency of my dreams was due to my meds. i continue to learn something new from every chris-chan video i watch

[@360Fov]

Can tell Gibi experienced somewhat therapeutic value from recounting his experiences in this video, I think that's cool!

[@chrisbomber101]

I 100% agree with what your saying about very vivid dreams that seem real because im also on anxiety meds and the same thing happens to me put that with Chris being abit slow i can see how he could start to think the dreams are true.

[@roflBeck]

Seroquel sounds like a hell of a drug. It lets you keep dreams as long term memories AND they're so real you can't tell they're dreams? I haven't experienced that. Most days I can't even recall last night's dream. Man, this sounds interesting, and scary! I like the part where these dreams can have the same persistent world, that's really weird.

[@MB-lz5eb]

I wonder if there's a way to get dreams that are stored in long-term memory + have consistent maps w/o the brain labeling them as "this actually happened."? Like, all the good/cool parts with none of the bad parts

[@Hapiche]

I also take the same medication. I've noticed however that I smoke before sleeping I don't dream at all. The last time I didn't smoke I had a dream of delivering a baby myself. It felt as if I had actualy had a daughter. I remember the waves of love washing over me. it was wild.

[@BigDad138]

I never dream either and I smoke a lot of weed

[@williamneuzil7403]

@@BigDad138 If you take a break your dreams will be insanely vivid and easier to remember.

[@BillyTheCat128]

At 5:08 I actually think that what he experienced there may have been Sleep Paralysis. When I was younger I experienced waking up and unable to move my body, next moment I closed my eyes it was as if my brain was on fire, like lightning coursing through my body which felt like it was contorting or warping me. I can remember shuddering immensily as the episode went on. From what I know, that usually can happen due to lack of sleep and knowing Chris's "shedule" that does seem plausible.

[@grilledpook]

it's really interesting to hear about your experience with seroquil dreams. im not on seroquil, but my antidepressants do cause me to have very vivid and persistent dreams about things im afraid of happening in real life. for instance, through my college semester ive dreamt more times than i can count that ive missed assignments and even finals that would determine my grade. it all feels so real when it happens, and i frequently wake up confused. it could most definitely be something fucking with chris, as delusonal as he already is.

[@middleofnowhere1313]

Also, mad respect with revealing the whole meds and anxiety thing. I have a different med, different diagnosis but let's just say this whole thing is not unfamiliar. While I was trying a certain medication, I had the most bananas dreams ever. It was like an actual drug trip. I appreciate your thorough descriptions of your experiences.

[@scorcher69]

when my dad died i had some pretty crazy dilusions, no medications helped, only therapy and accepting my dad's death solved it. i feel like that might also be a factor into this

[@Skrawnsan]

Its scary seeing chris-chan. The way you mention being one step away from chris-chan level of delusion really hits home for me too, like I should have ended up like chris, but one misstep saved me. Have you ever tried looking at your hands when you think you might be dreaming? Hands tend to be very difficult for dreams to render for some reason and often can be used as an indicator.

[@queenb9126]

Holy shit you put into words, experiences I have had my whole life with dreams that have recently got worse this past year with me taking anti-depressants. I'm scheduling an appointment with my doctor and I'm so tempted to just show him the dream section of your video. Sorry for rambling but I feel like it is worth while to share my recent experience. I literally have had to give up my engineering degree because remembering complex information and processes over these consistent, life like, time losing dreams. I would nearly forget days of working on calculus processes and my brain seemingly would delete that short term memory (Obviously I would need to practice a topic more than once to really, really remember it) in favor over these awful stressful interactions that would happen in my dream. I could study for a weekly test at one of the top engineering schools in the country written by a stringent my professor, get a 100% on it after studying the subject for a full week. Later that night if I had one of these horrendous dreams that leave me feeling exhausted even after 8 hours of sleep, that information from the test would be impossible to recall. Even today! I just woke up from a nap where I spent several days dealing with this recurrent abandoned warehouse anxiety dream, full of all these animals I forgot about but have to take care of now that somehow are still alive but hate me now. I could go on...

[@sadboy7685]

Oh My Emmanuel, in your story you just described the premise of Junji Ito's The long dream, and that's actually terrifying. I hope you will manage to beat your anxiety somehow, and stop having these dreams. Take care man

[@microcult]

Your experience with medication was very insightful!

[@Dakckaa]

Wow. I’d never heard of any of the stuff you’ve been through. That’s rough, man, but so interesting.

[@lisakay8253]

I have the same dream experience!!! I really appreciated someone articulating this. I don't feel as crazy.

[@jarlballin6548]

The roots of this well predate the Idea Guys and all the Dimensional Merge stuff. Back in 2010, he repeatedly referred to his characters and Asperchu’s as actually existing in another *real* universe while talking privately with Leary. I can also attest to certain anti-anxiety medications causing curious and vivid dreams. Although not to the extent of cerebral dreams as you have had.

[@Aquaticdragon]

I'm really glad you explained the dream thing. It's something I go through and I'm not sure how to put it into words.

[@spleenforsoul]

Whoa! You honestly blew my mind! I've been trying to explain this to my therapist for a long time, but it's hard to find the words. I take Seroquel XR 400mg along with a few other meds. My dreams are insane and I remember everything! I've created this whole city that all of them take place, buildings, street names, apartments. I have whole conversations in my sleep according to other people, I cry and I've broken 2 ash trays so far. They always have a theme too, like tornado dreams, end of the world dreams which usually have either aliens or religious aspects which is weird since I'm not even slightly religious. Or these dreams where there is disease in the city I've created. I get shot a lot, and I can feel it. I can feel like hot, searing pain as it goes through. Like you said it really is like living two lives. I also feel so tired when I wake up most of the time. Like it wasn't a "restful" sleep. Sometimes I wake up, heart pounding, out of breath. Just everything you said resonated with me.

[@salemlinnet]

my dreams are like this but i'm not currently on any medications. i am extremely mentally ill though, kind of comparable to what chris chan seems to deal with, actually. i feel you really hard on that closing note, gibi, i think partially i follow chris chan cause i can see how easy it would be to lose touch like this, the brain is complex and reality can be fragile. i think the points you made are all solid grounds to produce a delusion like this, especially the fact that it's so willful. there's so much motive for chris to perpetuate this, even more in the present day. like, what is the incentive to listen to reason? for chris, there is none.

[@robinlee1032]

Someone should convince him cwcville has fallen into a 12 way civil war. That would be interesting

[@cancerousretard7977]

God damit man that montage that started with Madison hit me in the feels rip feels ),:

[@owenhuffman9785]

I'd honestly like to hear about some more of your dreams it sounds like they're quite interesting.