Unraveling the Sifo-Dyas mystery

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The mystery behind Sifo-Dyas has been confusing fans since Attack of the Clones, mainly because it's a plot point that was not solved. Let's see why...
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⏱Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - The original Sifo-Dyas
02:30 - Changes and pick-ups
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@StarWarsMeg
@StarWarsMeg 6 ай бұрын
Really great analysis!
@Shark1364-kc8iw
@Shark1364-kc8iw 4 ай бұрын
I agree
@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770
@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 6 ай бұрын
I prefer “Sifo-Dias” being secretly Sidious, because otherwise, it seems sort of like he got lucky there. Everything should be according to his plan. Plus it’s just funny how obvious that is.
@tanner.h
@tanner.h 6 ай бұрын
Sidious could have planted the Force vision and somehow manipulated Sifo-Diyas to order the Clone army.
@tk-6967
@tk-6967 6 ай бұрын
@@tanner.h Sifo-Dyas did it before Sidious was the Sith master though. It was Palpatine's master, Darth Plagueis, under his public guise and original name Hego Damask (owner of a huge banking company), who gave Dyas the funding to create the clones, and indeed informed him of Kamino in the first place.
@gabrielcarrasco9078
@gabrielcarrasco9078 6 ай бұрын
He doesn't have to know everything. That's the problem with a lot of Sideous fans. He did not forsee Barriss doing what she did, but in the end it only helped him to lure Anakin since Asohka left. He did not predict the Zillo beast either. Sideous likely planned to create an army, but it'd possible someone came along and gave him the best option possible.
@tk-6967
@tk-6967 6 ай бұрын
@@gabrielcarrasco9078 And that is exactly what happened thankfully. In the Plagueis novel, Palpatine's master by chance meets Master Sifo-Dyas under his original name Hego Damask, wealthy Muun banker and leader of Damask Holdings, and finds out that his belief in a coming darkness (which he learns by just talking to him about his opinions) could be turned against him. Damask speaks with Dyas further, and informs him about Kamino, giving him the funds to buy the army he wanted. From what I can tell, Plagueis didn't actually tell Sidious about any of this, Sidious only found about it via Dooku after Dyas had already made the purchase. It was Dyas' ill fated decision to tell his close friend Dooku about some of this stuff that led to Sidious being able to manipulate the army, had Sidious never recruited Dooku following Qui Gon's death, it is indeed possible that the clone army would have gone undiscovered.
@KM____________
@KM____________ 6 ай бұрын
yeah its like he plans everything perfectly but he does this one thing while Extremely drunk
@MatthewTPrice
@MatthewTPrice 6 ай бұрын
The Sifo-Dyas thing always bugged me, especially because it so obviously sounded like Sidious. Thanks so much for explaining what happened.
@StarWarsLight1138
@StarWarsLight1138 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MarcAlcatraz
@MarcAlcatraz 6 ай бұрын
I actually never noticed the connection and I’ve been watching the prequels since I was a child lol
@Andalaeknir86
@Andalaeknir86 6 ай бұрын
He is in clone wars though
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 6 ай бұрын
I never picked up on that. To me he always seemed to be qui gonn because of how the film frames him as being a former master of obi wan
@leesmith2045
@leesmith2045 6 ай бұрын
Definitely ret conned to add a real Jedi
@leoda_lion4107
@leoda_lion4107 6 ай бұрын
When originally watching the movie, it was pretty clear to me that Sifo-Dyas was an alias of Dooku. Yeah, it was a real person according to Obi-wan. But being killed almost 10 years ago, suggests that someone was using his name to create the army. Even Jango Fett said "I was hired by a guy named Tyranus on the moons of Bodgen." Darth Tyranus being a really cool name that Dooku never used. Only Sidious called him by it at the end. "Welcome home, Lord Tyranus." So for me, it was always clear, that George likes to throw out little details like that, and have the story tellers write a book, and fill in the details. Only problem is, they went too far left field with what should have been a simple plot point.
@mikechris6208
@mikechris6208 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree! I don't like the new explanation from TCW. While AOTC doesn't lay it out word for word, I think it is subtly hinted at that Sify-Dyas was killed and impersonated.
@Andalaeknir86
@Andalaeknir86 6 ай бұрын
And dooku was the one who killed sifo dyas, which was revealed in clone wars
@Kpengie
@Kpengie 6 ай бұрын
@@mikechris6208 The explanation from TCW is what George Lucas intended actually. Sifo-Dyas commissioned the clones before being killed by Dooku, who subsequently hijacked the project.
@superrooster18
@superrooster18 5 ай бұрын
Tyrannus was Dooku’s actual Sith name
@DTheCritical
@DTheCritical 4 ай бұрын
​@@mikechris6208 If TCW didn't needlessly retcon/ignore so much continuity things would have made sense enough the EU in Darth Plagiues they explain things well enough
@davidmaglioli7048
@davidmaglioli7048 6 ай бұрын
As a kid I always thought that Sifo Dyas was meant to be Qui Gon Jinn. It always seemed weird to me that in AOTC they bring up this random Jedi who died a decade prior, around the same time Qui Gon died. I thought Qui Gon was linked to it somehow, and that Sifo Dyas was an alias for him, because they talk as if we should know who Sifo dyas is, and what other Jedi did we know who died a decade before AOTC?.
@battlefrontnews4035
@battlefrontnews4035 5 ай бұрын
Omg me too.
@Kalamrichards
@Kalamrichards 5 ай бұрын
I literally thought this as well as kid!
@cannavega9770
@cannavega9770 5 ай бұрын
That was exactly me as well. It would also suit the character of qui gon in my opinion
@Johnconner976
@Johnconner976 6 ай бұрын
In the book Darth Plagues , Syfo dyas was a a real Jedi that Plagues used to order the clones. It was all Plagues idea and plan not Sidious. He just hijacked it after he killed him.
@bigbird2240
@bigbird2240 6 ай бұрын
Wrong - Palpatine suggested the idea to have the clone army built to fight alongside the Jedi instead of Plagueiss idea of having an army cloned to fight against the Jedi . Palpatine suggested the idea to Plagueis but Plagueis was already planning to build an army so they kind of did it together. Plagueis said he knew a Jedi that would make the order to the kamino for the clone army
@salemhassan2010
@salemhassan2010 6 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. It’s sad to see so many people forget the complexity of legends lore
@Bendaak
@Bendaak 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comment. I was confused and thought for a moment that Syfo ordered the clones off of his own back which would have been ridiculous given that the clones were an integral part of the conspiracy to destroy the Jedi and overthrow the Republic.
@patrickmike2524
@patrickmike2524 6 ай бұрын
More like Typo Dyas
@sfcd4757
@sfcd4757 6 ай бұрын
Obi wan does say Sifo died nearly 10 years ago. So to act like he wasnt known is a flaw. I always assumed Palpatine lured the Jedi and got him to erase the planet from the archives and order a clone army...then they killed him to elimate any evidence. Basically Palpatine used a Jedi to think he would be a Sith Apprentice but as we all know...Palpy likes to lie, cheat and decieve everyone.
@tk-6967
@tk-6967 6 ай бұрын
Dooku erased Kamino from the archives shortly before he left the Order. Dyas had already disappeared by the time the archive data was erased.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 6 ай бұрын
I think Sifo & Dooku were like BFFs in "Legends".
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 6 ай бұрын
In a book "darth plagueis" sifo dias was approached by the sith lord plagueis in his civilian attire. They met each other on several ocations before it and the sith knew that he and dooku where weary of the republic. The sith expressed his fear of a war and that the republic was in danger and that someone has to prepare for it. As the jedi order never would. So the jedi placed the initial order (the kaminoans where hesitend to mass produce an army for anyone else) and the sith lord (who controlled and owned multipe banks) payed for it. Shortly after the initial order the sith killed the jedi. Later sidious convinced dooku to leave the order and put him on the search pf the dark side to make him a pawn in the upcoming war.
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 6 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that there was no follow-up necessary. Firstly, Yoda goes to Kamino, not to pick up the clones, but to investigate for himself, as he tells Mace Windu. Secondly, Sifo-Dyas never actually is implied in the movie to actually have placed the order. What I mean is that while the character was real and the order was placed under his name, he didn't actually have anything to do with it. Obi-Wan points out Sifo-Dyas dies about 10 years ago, around the same time the order was placed, and later says that he believes it would have been before the order could be placed. "I was under the impression he died before that." Jango, the template, was hired by a man named Tyranus, who we later learrn is Dooku's Sith name, and had never heard of Sifo-Dyas. Finally, Kamino was erased from the Temple records, something only a Jedi, like Dooku, could have done. It's clear That Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas, assumed his identity to place the order, and then recruited Jango as Darth Tyrannus as it is inplied by Jango's dialogue with Obi-Wan and him being currently under Dooku's employ that he is in on the plot. He finally erased any record of the planet to make sure the Jedi couldn't find out until it was too late. The explanations on the Plaguies novel or TCW were never needed.
@TheRogueJedii
@TheRogueJedii 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I always thought it was just an identity Dooku had assumed to deal with the Kaminoans. Likely at the behest of his master, Sidious. TCW is a bit convoluted at times explaining things for my taste.
@tk-6967
@tk-6967 6 ай бұрын
TCW was just piggybacking off of the EU explanation, which IMO makes the most sense. Sifo Dyas was a well-known but controversial Jedi because of his great foresight. He saw in visions that there was a coming darkness, so obviously, the Jedi Council in their eternal wisdom, acted like he was a moron because it was bad for PR, so while he was technically important and valued by the Valorum administration, he held little sway within Jedi affairs. Darth Plagueis, publicly known as Hego Damask of Damask Holdings, a powerful business, intentionally made an offhanded remark about the coming darkness having figured out Dyas' worries from a prior conversation with him. Damask informs Dyas of the planet Kamino, and says that if he is really worried about the Republic, he should request them to make an army. Dyas is obviously sceptical, but Damask gives him the credits to pull off the transaction, so he makes the order. Shortly after this, the events TCW talk about happen. The real issue with the TCW stuff is that it is strongly implied that Dooku is the reason Sidious has been able to create the army, and Plagueis isn't even referenced let alone mentioned by name in any of their conversations despite both of them knowing who Damask was.
@chief664
@chief664 6 ай бұрын
Sifo dyas has always been the weirdest thing about attack of the Clones it broke the whole show don't tell rule. And its just so strange that a character we haven't heard of before of ever see after is involved in such a crucial plot point
@SlashManEXE
@SlashManEXE 6 ай бұрын
I remember Rick McCallum saying something to the effect of “don’t worry, the mystery of Sifo-Dyas will be explained in Revenge of the Sith.”
@__Fn2187
@__Fn2187 6 ай бұрын
Dooku Jedi lost explores Sifo’s character a lot! If you’re looking to understand him more it’s definitely a worthwhile story
@SuperJumper40
@SuperJumper40 6 ай бұрын
In the Star Wars Archive book by Paul Duncan, George Lucas reveals that Sifo Dyas was a secret Sith apprentice of Palpatine. So it's possible that the army was ordered by Palpatine nonetheless.
@user-yq9im9dk9z
@user-yq9im9dk9z 6 ай бұрын
Rule of 4? 😂 Palpatine really doesn't give a fuck
@SuperJumper40
@SuperJumper40 6 ай бұрын
@@user-yq9im9dk9z Yeah, it's not clear exactly what the timeline looks like. It must have taken place between Maul and Dooku's Sith existence.
@kingofhearts3185
@kingofhearts3185 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperJumper40 You would think. The Plagueis novel took a different approach, with him being the one to tell Sifo Dyas about Kamino and fund the project himself (he's a high level banking executive, it cost him nothing). Sifo Dyas tells Dooku, who tells Palpatine. The rest goes how we see in the video. That could have been an interesting story though.
@informedconsumer5293
@informedconsumer5293 6 ай бұрын
@@user-yq9im9dk9zthe ACTUAL sith are only 2 and the rest are strung along
@PunishedTerry
@PunishedTerry 5 ай бұрын
holy shit a star wars channel that actually talks about star wars and not some BS, instant sub
@StarWarsLight1138
@StarWarsLight1138 5 ай бұрын
Doing my best, thanks for the sub!
@ZION-THELASTRONIN
@ZION-THELASTRONIN 5 ай бұрын
@@StarWarsLight1138I just subscribed👍
@cmdrpanorpa8631
@cmdrpanorpa8631 6 ай бұрын
Feloni made a great story out of it in the end, people who don't watch TCW are really missing out on some good content.
@mikechris6208
@mikechris6208 6 ай бұрын
I personally really like the "Sifo-Dyas" mystery in AOTC and am happy they made these changes from the initial script. It was never confusing to me, just subtle. I always interpreted that when Obi-Wan says to Yoda and Mace Windu "They say Master Sifo-Dyas placed the order for a clone army almost ten years ago. I was under the impression he was killed before that" as confirmation that Palpatine/Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas and impersonated him to place this order. At the end of the day, not everything regarding Sifo-Dyas needs to be explained for the viewer to follow the plot. All that matters is understanding that: 1.) Palpatine placed an order for the clone army through the facade of a Jedi Master (Sifo Dyas) to give the army more credibility and not raise further doubts when the army was discovered. 2.) This army was created under the guise that it was for the republic, but in reality, was created for the Sith to carry out their master plan I think those two points above are clearly implied in the movie. Whether Sifo-Dyas was working with Dooku (and killed when he was no longer useful) or if he was killed and impersonated to place the order, is not necessary to understand the movie. Although I still think the intention was for Sifo-Dyas to be killed and impersonated.
@CaptainClark23
@CaptainClark23 5 ай бұрын
Well said.
@nigmar9115
@nigmar9115 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, for sharing! It’s so funny the way Lucas made the story complicated for no reason!😅
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 6 ай бұрын
Complicated?
@moritzpollich8252
@moritzpollich8252 6 ай бұрын
I love how it’s not really ever explained. It gives it that much more mystery and it give me a vibe like something I was never supposed to see
@ncapone87
@ncapone87 6 ай бұрын
It's clear it was Dooku posing as Sifo-Dias, who used that name because he died and therefore no one could ask him
@swiftsamurai6833
@swiftsamurai6833 6 ай бұрын
if you read the book Dooku jedi lost its explained very well, Sifo Diyas was one of young dooku's closest friends who went insane when he started constantly receiving visions of the future and truly losing his mind. in his darkness pakistan's reached out too sofo diyas and used him
@kingbooomer9231
@kingbooomer9231 6 ай бұрын
@@swiftsamurai6833sure but that's a newer addition to the canon. The answer we had in Legends was that Plageuis and Palpatine fostered heavy worry on Sifo-Dyas (who was accompanying Dooku which by this point was familiar with Palpatine) that initially made him decide to put in an order for a Clone army. From there it is basically the same as canon, though it's speculated that Dooku posed as Sifo-Dyas and preserved Sifo-Dyas's corpse for future use (Blood transfusion with General Grevious)
@cska_om4021
@cska_om4021 6 ай бұрын
They did start to work on this in clone war animated series towards the end but just when it got really really good some genius decided to cancel it .
@thejurassicking3817
@thejurassicking3817 6 ай бұрын
The story is Sifo Dyas saw visions of the clone wars and knew the republic needed a army. Dooku who had just started to be in league with sidious and was friends with sifo dyas. Sidious knowing that this is an opportunity to wipe the Jedi out told Dooku to go to Kamino and tell sifo dyas that that is where they can make there army. They both went to Kamino and made the clones. Dooku was going by the name tyrannous as a cover. Dooku took a chip the sidious had made in a sith lab and Dooku took it to Kamino and was able to place the chip in the clones and have it mass produced. Not many Kaminoen knew what the chips did but for some reason they mass produced it into all clones. As a cover to make sure no one knew about the clone army Dooku killed sifo dyas on Oba Diah by sabotaging his ship and paid the pikes to not tell anyone about the crashed Jedi ship. Dooku then went to the archives and erased Kamino from the data base of the Jedi order. Dooku also killed Yadle because she found out. That’s the story. Any questions?
@aidantaylor117
@aidantaylor117 6 ай бұрын
i don’t even wanna know what “Jar Jars Great Adventure” is. sounds like some of the deepest sith doodoo i’ve ever heard
@kevinvassago
@kevinvassago 6 ай бұрын
Great video!! I personally always liked the aspect of him
@GRWelsh7
@GRWelsh7 6 ай бұрын
I've always wondered about this. Thanks for the explanation!
@benbrandes4520
@benbrandes4520 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying this confusion! 🥂
@PokemonButcher
@PokemonButcher 6 ай бұрын
Excellent examination of this convoluted plot beat and how it ties into the motifs of the six movies and clone wars show
@MarkMarxonsBassChannel
@MarkMarxonsBassChannel 9 күн бұрын
Awesome job!!
@nothappierthanme6146
@nothappierthanme6146 2 ай бұрын
I just re-watched this episode "the lost one" from TCW, and holy...it is so frustrating to see the jedi concil not doing anything after knowing that dooku literally made that army for them. Its even more frustrating when it happened so shortly after the Tup and Fives incident 😭 I feels kinda weird tho that they really didn't suspect ANYTHING about the clone army, feels almost like a plot hole to me honestly.
@SniffHeinkel
@SniffHeinkel 6 ай бұрын
Finally someone addresses this. Thank you!
@bandogstudios3459
@bandogstudios3459 6 ай бұрын
There is even more information on this in the novel "Darth Plagueis" by James Luceno. It, in fact, was Darth Plagueis who initially manipulated Sifo-Dyas toward the ordering of the clone army. Great novel if anyone is interested in Sidious's rise to power and the death of Darth Bane's rule of two.
@zacqueeentertainment7336
@zacqueeentertainment7336 6 ай бұрын
This always confused me. I thought they were speaking about Qui Gon Jinn. But Sifo Diyas was totally different. He deserves a Tales of the Jedi series
@Poopyboy267
@Poopyboy267 6 ай бұрын
When I was a kid I thought Sifo Diyas was Qui Gon too mainly because they say he died 10 years ago just like Qui Gon
@zacqueeentertainment7336
@zacqueeentertainment7336 6 ай бұрын
@@Poopyboy267 exactly!
@swiftsamurai6833
@swiftsamurai6833 6 ай бұрын
if you read the book Dooku jedi lost its explained very well, Sifo Diyas was one of young dooku's closest friends who went insane when he started constantly receiving visions of the future and truly losing his mind. in his darkness pakistan's reached out too sifo diyas and used him
@robbarnes9674
@robbarnes9674 6 ай бұрын
The clone wars tv series covered this
@BlueKhaotix
@BlueKhaotix 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Well explained
@dillarslk
@dillarslk 5 ай бұрын
WTF good video man
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 6 ай бұрын
The novel Darth Plagues does touch on Sifo-Dyas a little bit more namely how he came to the idea to use Kamino to clone an army and get it paid for without the Republic or Jedi Order knowing. I personally do not like Filoni shoehorning in his own plot, as much of what his shown really screwed with the canon previously established in the EU.
@Alex06CoSonic
@Alex06CoSonic 6 ай бұрын
I personally like the original idea of it being Sidious better, but it feels a little too obvious. I think an in-between version, with Sifo-Dyas being either captured and manipulated by Sidious and Dooku, or impersonated by them, and Sidious really being behind the Clone Arrmy order, would make more sense plot-wise. Though I also like that they suspect someone from the Senate ordering the clones - and that could only work if the name "Sifo-Dyas" was a fake.
@jocastadidntknew5980
@jocastadidntknew5980 5 ай бұрын
You gotta love how the Sifo-Dyas backstory is so confusing that not even The Clone Wars could explain it thoroughly.
@Mazeltof90
@Mazeltof90 6 ай бұрын
Great analysis mate! :)
@StarWarsLight1138
@StarWarsLight1138 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@efrenjr2768
@efrenjr2768 6 ай бұрын
You got a new sub man!!
@drummerchilipepper
@drummerchilipepper 6 ай бұрын
I looove your content! As a huge Star Wars fan and the Prequels turning me into a Star Wars fan two decades ago, I'd love to hear your take on the Darth Jar Jar Theory. Seeing how you are able to find deep research for your videos, I'm interested to see what more research you can find about the Darth Jar Jar Theory that hasn't been found yet!
@StarWarsLight1138
@StarWarsLight1138 6 ай бұрын
Glad that you like the content! As for the theory, I personally think it was never a thing... I believe it was just some fans' attempt to make some sense of a failed character. Lucas himself has denied it. Sorry if that disappointed you! That said... I'll include the theory from its conception in a video about him, maybe we can find something out! Oh, and btw, I LOVE Jar Jar😆
@naverich4603
@naverich4603 6 ай бұрын
Lucas once said that Jar Jar is a key to all of this and you can see him standing next to Palpatine when the body of Qui-gon is burned. He also somehow got this prominent role on Coruscant? It's weird. There also talks about Lucas being pushed by the studio to change some aspect of the film because it would harm the sales. and that it might be the fact that Jar Jar would turn out to be a sith lord. Just imagine....a character made purely for commercial purposes, being sold as a toy and loved by kids turns out to be a Sith Lord. In my opinion, that sounds like something Lucas would do 😀 I think he was at least toying with the idea but changed his mind.
@ozsumut
@ozsumut 6 ай бұрын
I was about to watch more of this vid and it suddenly ended 🥺❤
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 5 ай бұрын
For the longest time I always thought that Sifo Dias was just another name for Qui Gonn. The only reason I believed this was because they died around the exact same time.
@Zapski
@Zapski 6 ай бұрын
Good observations
@davidmr11able
@davidmr11able 6 ай бұрын
It was always clear to me that it was Dooku posing as Syfo-Dias, after being forced to kill him for discovering him in the same way he did with Yaddle in Tales of Jedi. Then Filoni modified it in Clone Wars, I don't know if because there was a bug in that.
@josephprice4095
@josephprice4095 6 ай бұрын
Ummm. The Clone Wars series completely resolves this issue.
@mackenzy.mp4
@mackenzy.mp4 6 ай бұрын
I hope in tales of the Jedi we get to see more of Sifo Dyas. Apparently his foresight was something he was known for, and it would be interesting to see a skill become a curse as it becomes plagued by the dark side (perhaps the influence of palpatine)
@kleinerlemming5125
@kleinerlemming5125 6 ай бұрын
Actually, in one of the books, I think by Pablo Hidalgo, it is stated that in a story meeting George Lucas said who ordered the clone army. One of the attendants wrote it down and asked if it is written Sifo-Dyas. George Lucas said, yes whatever. Actually he indeed meant and said Sidious. But he didn't really care at the moment. And so it became a thing.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 6 ай бұрын
George is like that with names. I've heard the Tantive 4 pronounced Tan Tiv 4 or Tan Tee Vee 4 or Tan Tive 4. Tive rhyming with jive. He didn't correct Billy D. saying Han as Hann rhyming with pan. And look how many different ways actors say Coruscant. Core a sant, Core oo sant, Core roo sant. And so fore and so on.
@ShaquilleOatmea1429
@ShaquilleOatmea1429 6 ай бұрын
In the plagues book, plagues posing as a man named Demasc who is the head of Demasc holdings went to sifo-Dias and injected the idea of a clone army into his thoughts by mentioning it to him
@ermincakovic2855
@ermincakovic2855 6 ай бұрын
Personally I think Sidious pressured Sifo Dyas into going to Kamino and ordering a clone army with the help from Dooku. At this time Dooku wasn't okay with everything the Jedi did and was also shattered by Qui-Gon's death. So he got more and more in contact with Sidious and Sidious told him his plan (or Plagueis) to make an army. Dooku then convinced/tricked Sifo Dyas to go to Kamino and order an Army because at this time Dooku was still respected and Dooku and Sifo Dyas were kinda friends. They did this so it is very hard to track it down. You also see in The Clone Wars that Sifo Dyas is being held captive that's why I'm more convinced Dooku and Sidious got some to do with it.
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 6 ай бұрын
Sido-Dyas, the initial plan, but… wowzer.
@Frost4Real
@Frost4Real 6 ай бұрын
This is definitely the most convoluted story line of SW, but also ironically my favourite. Once TCW and TotJ shon more light on it, it does (mostly) make sense.
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. I was wondering about the one off Syfo Dias name drop as if we were supposed to understand who that was.
@collectingwithaj1898
@collectingwithaj1898 6 ай бұрын
U know I was just thinking about this
@kwamesmith3214
@kwamesmith3214 6 ай бұрын
Sifo Dyas’ distant cousin was that father in Star Wars visions who liberated and adopted the rabbit girl... it’s my head canon, but the father and Sifo Dyas shared same voice actor, Paul Nakauchi
@andylikesstuffchannel
@andylikesstuffchannel 4 ай бұрын
Back in the day without clone wars we dremt up any possibility
@darthqui-gon5986
@darthqui-gon5986 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was easy to follow before Clone Wars. At the end of Attack of the Clones Darth Sidious refers to Count Dooku as Darth Tyrannus. Obviously Dooku killed Sifo.
@chill_itsjustlife
@chill_itsjustlife 6 ай бұрын
Did you ever hear the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise? It's on audible and the Sifo-Dyas plot is covered there.
@corbananderson7060
@corbananderson7060 6 ай бұрын
There was a Star Wars comic that came out around the time of ROTS that had a bunch of short stories that were supposidly rejected pitches for material for ep 3. One story was the duel on Tatooine between Obi Wan and Darth Maul where you see the bottom half of Maul is robotic, another was a back story on Sifo Dias and General Grevious. It basically says Sifo Dias was manipulated by Palpatine and Dooko into creating the clone army and then was kept in stasis where they were giving blood transfusions from Sifo Dias to General Grevious making him somewhat force-sensitive so he could fight Jedi's after he was turned into a cyborg. None of this was canon or was used but it's been cherry picked a bit for a lot of the newer content
@hellstrombones7
@hellstrombones7 6 ай бұрын
The Plagueis book explains it so much better. Thst both Sifo-Dyas and Dooku were manipulated by both Plagueis and Sidious. They need to make Plagueis canon and turn that into a show, it would be so much more popular than what they are doing
@swiftsamurai6833
@swiftsamurai6833 6 ай бұрын
if you read the book Dooku jedi lost its explained very well, Sifo Diyas was one of young dooku's closest friends who went insane when he started constantly receiving visions of the future and truly losing his mind. in his darkness palpatine reached out too sifo diyas and used him
@TheFirstCurse1
@TheFirstCurse1 5 ай бұрын
The original idea was superior in every way. Yet another reason Star Wars needs to be remade. It would fix so many issues, including Sifo Dyas.
@arnaldojunior8924
@arnaldojunior8924 6 ай бұрын
This name is so good when you're Brazilian, really really really funny
@virtualtrainstuff990
@virtualtrainstuff990 6 ай бұрын
I'll admit when I was just a kid, when obi wan said "Master Sifo Dyas was killed, almost 10 years ago".. I thought he was referring to Qui-gon under an alias name.. because after all it was roughly 10 years after episode 1.. then came the clone wars.
@thomassantino392
@thomassantino392 6 ай бұрын
The book Darth Plagueis goes deeper into this
@unlimitedgamerworks6125
@unlimitedgamerworks6125 6 ай бұрын
I like the Filoni attempt to patch Sifo Dias, i will say the Bounty Hunter gane has the best version of Jango becoming the clone template.
@wolfxp2
@wolfxp2 6 ай бұрын
It’s also told in the darth Plagueis novel which was cannon until Disney purchased lusasfilm, give a more clear picture and worth reading
@thomasjeppesen3055
@thomasjeppesen3055 6 ай бұрын
I kind of bothered me why Lucas used a completely random Jedi when the obvious choice was letting Qui Gon place the order prior to his death. The rising threat of the Trade federation could even have been a good reason for doing something like that. Not alone would that have been a massive twist for Obi Wan to discover but it would also have served as a tighter connection to Dooku who they eventually discovered recruited Jango Fett as the template.
@drewlovelyhell4892
@drewlovelyhell4892 5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was intended to just be one of Palpatine's aliases. The Kaminoans seem overly trusting and easy to dupe. He just rolled in there and did a few force tricks to convince them he was a jedi, then pretended he spoke for the order. The suggestion that someone ordered a clone army (for some reason) and then mysteriously disappeared is too convenient to Sidious' plans.
@tomn6800
@tomn6800 6 ай бұрын
We meet Sifo-Dyas in the audio drama _Dooku: Jedi Lost_, and he is a close friend of Dooku. Shows that Dooku killing Sifo-Dyas was a big moment in his final descent into full darkness,
@treoui8739
@treoui8739 6 ай бұрын
All the mysteries are not meant to be solved. I can garantee you, lucas didn't "forget" this one in episode 3.
@Tommytakanawa
@Tommytakanawa 6 ай бұрын
Bruh you can't even spell guarantee. Let alone promise something.
@lemushroom2169
@lemushroom2169 6 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything from the Darth Plagueis book. It goes into great detail regarding the intricacies of the Sith plot to bring the Jedi to fall
@StarWarsLight1138
@StarWarsLight1138 6 ай бұрын
You're right... But I wanted to make this video shorter, and the fact that it isn't canon anymore made me not to include it. Anyway, thanks for mentioning it, I'll take it into account for a future video.
@hippiehillape
@hippiehillape 6 ай бұрын
Even with the F, I thought that was an obvious tell
@BierBart12
@BierBart12 6 ай бұрын
Did Lucas forget about it, or was it just lost when trying to cut down Episode 3 from being like 5 hours long?
@simongervais9302
@simongervais9302 6 ай бұрын
4:45 very Oedipian of George
@zacharywilliams6337
@zacharywilliams6337 6 ай бұрын
I was just always more confused how he was killed in those season 6 episodes.
@cobchob
@cobchob 5 ай бұрын
Bro had no plan.
@9Dunk
@9Dunk 6 ай бұрын
I guess he used find and replace. But that doesn't work on misspelled words, leaving us with one Dwgt / Sifo-dyas.
@bigbird2240
@bigbird2240 6 ай бұрын
Darth Plagueis book explains it perfectly
@Dankdalorde
@Dankdalorde 6 ай бұрын
…..I just thought it was Qui Gon’s alias “Master Sifo Dyas was killed almost 10 years ago” “Prime Minister when my master….did he say what it was for?” Also, is government ID not a thing in Star Wars? “Hello I am Jedi Syfo Dyas and I’d like to put in an order for an army” “Hello - thank you for contacting Kamino Labs - may I see your ID?” “….uh I lost it?” …. *End theme WRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY GEORGE LUCAS
@robertbattles
@robertbattles 6 ай бұрын
I prefer the legends version of the answer, sifo dias is a war loving jedi master that gets killed on the outbound flight project
@apollosungod2819
@apollosungod2819 6 ай бұрын
Why? The whole Sifo Dyas ordering the clone army is supposed to take place ten years before the Attack of the Clones movie... it was crystal clear that "something" was happening behind the scenes during the events of Episode I. Sifo Dyas being a "mystery" is nothing different from Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious and Darth Maul being "mysteries" themselves since they had to HIDE themselves from the Jedi in plain sight and Darth Sidious took it a step further. Also George Lucas established that the Emperor Palpatine and Darth Sidious being one and the same was the one pulling the strings, a skill he was lucky to never have been discovered at. As such it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Darth Sidious being a Sith Lord was grooming Sifo Dyas behind the scenes but somehow he also ended up grooming Jedi Master Dooku as well which led to Jedi Dooku leaving the Jedi... ten years before the Attack of the Clones movie... Sith believe in deceit and betrayal just like Yoda states at the end of AotC, therefore Darth Sidious set up a situation where Sifo Dyas was being manipulated (remember we see Anakin being manipulated for a while) but that's just too much story to tell then Dooku gets manipulated and both are set up so that one betrayed the other because the Sith have the rule of two and will Deceive you with the lure of power. As such "Count Dooku" states how much more powerful in knowledge of the force he is in AotC because he was lured under the illusion of power by Sidious and he had already been knighted or initiated as "Darth Tyrannus" because it was Dooku who killed Sifo Dyas.. George Lucas knew this himself but he has to write tons of pages so later we get a Lucasfilm staff writer's fan fiction on what happened when all you needed to do was piece the mystery by paying attention to the clues in AotC and knowing that the set up happened during Episode I.
@NostalgiaNetwork
@NostalgiaNetwork 6 ай бұрын
In the novel Darth Plaqueis, Darth Plaqueis is the one who placed the order for a clone army
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 6 ай бұрын
No. They manipulated Sifo-Dyas into placing the order and then immediately killed him to take it over. Plaguies did visit Kamino, however, and spoke with them about creating a hypothetical clone army and the different species that would work best for such a force. I think that is what you're thinking of.
@noivern8869
@noivern8869 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Syfo-Dias sounds like a swear word in Brazilian portuguese ("Se fodias" = fucks himself), so they changed his name to Zaifo-Vias
@transformersrevenge9
@transformersrevenge9 6 ай бұрын
Well clearly Yoda meditated on this and got no answers.
@N7_Jedi
@N7_Jedi 5 ай бұрын
Anakin saw his mother die and was encouraged to ignore it, if he acted when he saw it originally hed have been there sooner. Js.
@Jkrocsko
@Jkrocsko 5 ай бұрын
Oh? I thought Tyrannus and Sidious kidnapped and killed Sipho-dias, then used his alias as a way to request an army to battle the separatists and set his plan in motion to seize power. I assumed dias was dead and his name used as a scapegoat until ppl found out and by that time it would be too late
@lordsauron8811
@lordsauron8811 6 ай бұрын
Remember dooku killed him saved his body used his blood to save gerivous life and he almost became force sensitive
@DCUOMultiverse
@DCUOMultiverse 6 ай бұрын
Watching the films.... I thought Sipho-Dius was another name for Doku?? :( Yeah... that whole bit was a mess. :) But... who was Tyrannus???
@OtherL
@OtherL 5 ай бұрын
That visions thing goes both ways. If Anakin did nothing his mom would still Have died. She was a captive. As for Padmè he was supposed to do nothing imo but obviously whose gonna sit by with that kinda dream lol
@jonathanstafford3383
@jonathanstafford3383 6 ай бұрын
I'll be honest I thought syfo Dias or what ever was count dukoo original Jedi name (just from the movies cus they never explained shit they just kept introducing new one off villains.… the clone wars show really does so much to supplemente the movies
@boba3597
@boba3597 6 ай бұрын
Im confused, i thought dooku joined sideous after Quigon dies. But the video says before the naboo blockade
@marianopie3785
@marianopie3785 5 ай бұрын
I never once in my life thought that "Sifo-Dyas" sounds like Sidious. Still don't
@cobaltprime9467
@cobaltprime9467 6 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s not that hard to follow. In universe: Sifo-Dyas commissioned the Clones in preparation for a coming war. Dooku assumed his identity to add the Clones into Palpy’s overall plot. Out of universe: George rewrote that plot point and we as the audience accepted it until we saw it unfold in Clone Wars.
@iYehuk
@iYehuk 6 ай бұрын
I always assumed that it was Dooku who ordered the army under the alias of Syfo. Though I'm not a great fan of media outside of six movies.
@FabianGuse
@FabianGuse 6 ай бұрын
If we just follow „Attack of the Clones“, you are absolutely right.
@shellnjoeycastro1730
@shellnjoeycastro1730 6 ай бұрын
It was delt with in the clone wars
@CowboysCrusaderTTC
@CowboysCrusaderTTC 6 ай бұрын
A wizard did it.
@dwbryant13
@dwbryant13 6 ай бұрын
Wonder why it’s so mysterious… maybe it’s because filoni is a talentless fury with a canonical dunce cap.
@hibox699android8
@hibox699android8 6 ай бұрын
Obviously Lucas didn't want to answer that question. It understandable because there will be no point to answer that question that's why each scenes mentioned with syfo dias is just parried somehow.....
@geostam4420
@geostam4420 6 ай бұрын
Somehow there’s a clone army ….
@apeman505
@apeman505 6 ай бұрын
George really needed a second person to iron out his scripts, you shouldn't require secondary material to understand the plot of a movie. (Even with the Clone Wars explaining it, I'm still fuzzy on the details.) So let me get this straight... Syfo-Dias foresaw the coming of a droid army and went behind the backs of all the Jedi to purchase a clone army. Then Dooku and Palpatine killed him, and had the Kaminoans install biochips into their brains for later. Then, in order to get the Republic to actually use the clone army, they hired Jango to hire Zam Wesell to botch two assassination attempts on Padme so that Jango could kill Zam Wesell with a Kaminoan dart that Obi-Wan could use to trace everything back to Kamino, and then put a tracer on Jango's ship and track him to Geonosis and start the Clone Wars so that he could obtain emergency powers? I dunno... I'm going to have to rewatch Clone Wars.
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 6 ай бұрын
You don't need secondary material. Just watch AOTC and pay attention. - Only a Jedi could erase the records of Kamino. - A Jedi named Sifo-Dyas placed the order, but he died 10 years ago, before he could have placed the order according to Obi-Wan. - Jango Fett, the template for the clones, had never heard of Sifo-Dyas and was instead hired by a man named Tyranus. -Jango Fett currently works for Dooku, a former Jedi. - Darth Sidious refers to Dooku as Darth Tyranus at the end of the movie.
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