Unreleased Games 6

[@GameSack]

What are some other interesting games that didn't get released?

[@QF_Dan72]

There's an arcade game called Vertexer made by Taito in 1993. The game is in a complete status but for some reason, Taito never release the game worldwide. They did however released a limited amount of PCB for some collectors. Apart from footages that those people recorded with poor quality, there's nothing else. I doubt we will ever get a dumped ROM anytime soon

[@Ahmadu100]

How about "Dando" by Treco, a Legendary Axe style game for the Sega Genesis that never got released, it's hard to get footage for that game, it's that obscure.

[@UltimatePerfection]

Computer Virus Simulator, which which was the best hyper retro, lowpoly, lowres, flatshaded 3d platformer.

[@fplgregfrost]

Shining Force 4...

[@myopiniondoesntmatter7068]

Think you've already covered it, but Starcraft ghost was my most notable. Also pretty miffed they cancelled the Shining Force mobile game that looked actually decent even though it would've been aggressively monetized.

[@SignalRidge]

“You play as the main character, Die Hard” 😆😂🤣💀 Always love the humor in Game Sack videos. Top notch!

[@KasumiKenshirou]

Possibly a Simpsons reference, as that's how Bart referred to the main characters in movies when Homer stole cable (back when they were poor and couldn't afford cable). I know Die Hard was one of these movies, and Bart also said, "Here's where Wall Street gets arrested!"

[@TadRaunch]

Interesting bit of detail that the Die Hard prototype had the guns held left-handed, as Bruce Willis is actually left-handed.

[@nicksrandomreviews]

That's a weird bit of detail that they didn't have to do, but I'm glad they did.

[@waqas4318]

added his cinnamon rolls. nice!

[@Chaos89P]

I was suspecting that, but I wasn't sure,

[@ChillingCrowley]

All the best people are left handed.

[@nicksrandomreviews]

@@ChillingCrowley As a lefty, I agree.

[@Cyclingismywholelife]

Honestly, no one has to make these types of videos. But man is it a blessing that some one does, because these are so entertaining to watch. Thank you Game Sack for doing what you do to inform and entertain us. Thank you for your work, I hope you get as much joy making it as we do watching it.

[@revy1063]

Yep could not agree more love these videos live gamesack

[@rossvegas7]

Here! Here!

[@theangryadventurer3954]

Agreed, still great after all these years

[@Falcnuts]

Been a fan for like a decade and every upload feels like Christmas

[@workeded1]

Amazing videos

[@arcticridge]

Game Sack and Sega Lord X, keeping Sega alive with one video at a time.

[@GameCubeGalaxy]

Best way to start a Sunday. Always worth staying up late to catch a new episode of Game Sack. 👍

[@64kram]

7am in the UK :)

[@svenvaltik5657]

11:30pm in Cali. Such a treat!

[@johnellis3383]

One of the perks of working nights for me

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

​@@64kram yup. Makes my Sunday morning. Really does. Cuppa tea, cigarette, cheese on toast in bed GAMESACK with my 8bitdo mini in hand ready to download a rom after to try. .......Im a sad man

[@svenvaltik5657]

@@videostash413 Sorry your life sucks...

[@ultimateworldchampion5531]

"to go fail in the mobile industry" Ha, I love it!

[@kakashi101able]

How many games does it take to fill up a sack? The world shall never know.

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

Ah one, ah two, ah thrrree *crunch* Wait.....I'm not supposed to eat these am I?💀

[@ninjapirate47]

Joe, as a citizen of the U.K., I officially dub thee a knight of the realm for your services informing the public of how tosh klax was. That game was an unbridled pile of klax. Columns... twas not.

[@melancholas]

And again a great episode. I hope you've had a great Black Friday and maybe have been able to find the one or other good Black Friday deal. Cheers from Germany!

[@GameSack]

Thanks! For Black Friday I picked up an NVMe SSD for my PS5.

[@doughbot]

Mandaloregaming just did a video on The Ring game featured in this video. It's quite the descent into madness.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Then there's the sequel, which has you control a little dude around instead of using the cursor.

[@JazGalaxy]

The “diehard” joke makes me laugh because Ken Levine made a comment about Bioshock wherein customers who bought the game off the shelf at WalMart, sight unseen, were disappointed because, based on the cover, they assumed you played as the. Big Daddy, assumed to be the hero known as “Bioshock”. This is likely why Bioshock 2 lets the player play as a Big Daddy.

[@subtledemisefox]

Bioshock is a pretty cool guy

[@GooseGumlizzard]

sounds like bullshit to me

[@Craig_Fulk]

Here's a fun fact for you. The guy who played Fred Flintstone in Viva Rock Vegas is the same guy who played Robert Baratheon in Game of Thrones, Mark Addy.

[@flemmingpedersen567]

And three others are the woman from "3rd rock from the sun", the woman from "Ally McBeal" and a Baldwin.

[@KasumiKenshirou]

On the first movie, when Rick Moranis learned that Rosie O'Donnell was playing Betty Rubble, he said, "She should be playing Fred!" (After working with her he changed his opinion, though.)

[@sidearmsalpha]

You calling John McClane "Diehard" reminds me of Beavis & Butthead calling Courtney Love "Hole" while watching one of Hole's videos. 😆

[@Unquestionable]

Always was a big fan of Working Designs and their follow up company so was really cool to see some of their stuff that never saw the light of day. A shame as I would have probably checked out those titles.

[@Chicomite]

As a massive Goemon fan, as soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew which game would be included in this, the PS2 Goemon game that Working Designs was gonna bring over here. I've played the Japanese version, and agree with your assessment. I looked for an English translation around 2013 before I knew WD tried to bring it over, and didn't find the translated rom/iso. I also have the "Wacky Goemon" plush you got there, lucky enough for it to still be in it's promotional bag from when they handed these out, and to find one on ebay for a reasonable price. The only reason I found out about the WD version was on an ebay listing of the plush, the seller held up a PS2 case with the mock-up cover art of the PS2 Mystical Ninja game, but it had an English title and Working Designs logo, I was confused. Apparently, these plushes were handed out to promo the game at E3, so cool to see another collector have one. Please play the PS1 Goemon platformers, especially Oedodaikaiten, it's so good, fun graphics with that silicon Donkey Kong look, and very English friendly, a special game. Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu with a Gamefaqs guide may be the best one, but it's a bit more like Ganbare Goemon 3 for Super Famicom, where you need to be able to read to do the little missions, side quests and mini games, but the Uchuu Kaizoku Akohingu is even better than #3(the boxer and old man characters have such satisfying attacks and moves). Shin-Seddai Shumei is a really good Goemon platformer, no reading required at all, very nice graphics, particle effects and abilities, but probably the most standard platformer out of the three PS1 2D Goemon games.

[@DeathlessDevil]

Huge fan too..Akogingu is a complete masterpiece. The soundtrack alone would be considered one of the best ever if the game wasn’t mostly unknown here in the states.

[@LeonSKennedy7777]

I was NOT AWARE there was a Goemon PS2 prototype. It looks amazing running in glorious 60fps. What a masterpiece that game release would have been…..

[@tomenza]

I'm trying not to be upset about "Amanda"

[@y0gafire]

the jap version was released i thought he said??

[@tomenza]

@@y0gafire sounds to me like she Thanos snapped the game away from the US, for no apparent reason.

[@LeonSKennedy7777]

@@y0gafire I did some research & “Bōken Jidai Katsugeki Goemon” was indeed released in Japan on Dec 21, 2000 as the third 3D installment in the Goemon series after the N64 & PS1 games. It was scheduled to be localized in English in 2002, but rumor has it Sony squashed it due to “sub-par graphics”.

[@y0gafire]

ya its unfortunate it never got a US localization tho. n based on "sub par" graphics? thats brutal. it looks fine to me. brining back those n64 era goemon vibes... as someone else said it kinda feels like OOT also. i really enjoy all the goeman games. well as for english version i think there might be some fan translates available. idk tho.

[@tribemaster101]

this show is always a breath of fresh air compared to other channels

[@Bartycrouch]

Wow, Castlevania!! I Can't believe I'm seeing it finally!! I remember when I wrote you 10 years ago about this game, I thought it was completely lost. Thanks for bringing back to life briefly!!

[@solsticeprojekt1937]

"you guessed it ... the Sega Genesis" omg I burst out in laughter. :D

[@dixongalvez-searle8035]

My favorite Turbo Pad buttons, in order of preference: Run, II (turbo switch all the way up), I (turbo switch all the way down), II (turbo switch all the way down), Select, II (turbo switch set to medium), I (turbo switch set to medium), I (turbo switch all the way up). Also…gotta go check out that Tengai Makyou: Ziria soundtrack now!

[@melancholas]

This episode had so many great games I would have been interested in like that Castlevania or Mystical Ninja one. They looked very promising.

[@zombiegeorge749]

That StarWars 1313 thing

[@ManOfUnknownWorth]

The fact that Gaijin Works decided to render "Jiraiya" as "Ziria" is rather bizarre. My guess is that they wanted to differentiate the character from the one in Naruto. I would have gone with "Ziraya", with the other party members being "Tunadé" and "Oroti" (the names make more sense when one understands a bit about Japanese phonology.) So yes, you said it right.

[@GameSack]

The original PC Engine version is also called Ziria. - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengai_Makyou:_Ziria#/media/File:Tengai_Makyou_Ziria_cover.jpg

[@gaffa2002]

Its also Ziraia on the Kabuki Klash game for the Neo Geo.

[@angelriverasantana7755]

It's basically an intentionally inaccurate romanization.

[@Fuuntag]

So surprised in 2023 we are still finding so many of these, not scraping the bottom of the sack quite yet😉

[@carlosaugustodinizgarcia3526]

Tengai Makyou Ziria is sort a parody of the japanese tale of Jiraiya from the 19th century (yes,the same one who inspired Naruto and some tokusatu/power ranger shows). By the way Tengai Makyou III Namida is another infamous (sort of) unreleased game with a convulated development on par with Mother 3. It was announced for NEC PC FX in 1995 with trailers but was canned after the system bombed. Hudson released 3 other games in the series until they decided to revive the project with the PS2 Tengai Makyou III.

[@WalcomS7]

That PS2 Goemon would have been amazing. The N64 ones are some of the best on the console. I still blame Mystical Ninja 64 as the reason I don't love Ocarina of Time as much as other people.

[@willienelson9019]

Always love your content. I look forward to future episodes, I don't know, an in depth episode of your humor again? Metal Jesus mimick was pure gold 🤣🤣🤣

[@osurpless]

On Amanda Burke: “To go fail in the mobile industry.” A familiar story to Bernie Stolar and even Hiroshi Yamauchi; their way or the highway. While it is more of an industry wide problem, Bob Hoskins had a great quote on Super Mario Brothers where that attitude can invariably lead if there’s no one to properly run defense: “The worst thing I ever did? Super Mario Bros. (1993). It was a f**kin' nightmare. The whole experience was a nightmare. It had a husband-and-wife team directing, whose arrogance had been mistaken for talent. After so many weeks, their own agent told them to get off the set! F**kin' nightmare. F**kin' idiots.”

[@slyguythreeonetwonine3172]

I always wondered wtf happened to that movie.😂 I mean I enjoyed it for what it was even though it wasn't what I wanted. But I was 6 so wtf did I know?😂😂😂

[@osurpless]

@@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 Same with me, but at 12. Dennis Hopper hamming it up in Speed would obviously be more critically acclaimed, but it’s fun to see similar in Mario.

[@troymeredith521]

Seeing that Goemon Plush brings back so many memories of my travels to E3 in the late 90's and 2000's. I still have that plush along with a few others from Working Designs. They are sorely missed and probably would be a powerhouse in today's market.

[@cutter6900]

I can imagine some nefarious parties using that Flintstones racer as a method of torture. I'd definitely talk after a minute of that eye abuse.

[@crunchinjelly]

Castlevania looks pretty respectable for the time.

[@anthonyshultz8413]

The post episode skit probably made a lot of collectors cry.

[@Labyrinth____]

Game sack vids are like comfort food and I mean that in the best possible regard. If I had to pick one word to describe your vids it would be "cozy" 👍

[@coorhagon7236]

The Ring of Nibelung, also known as the Ring Cycle, is Richard Wagner's group of 4 operas. Music from Das Rhiengold can be heard in your video.

[@poptheweasel100]

I remember seeing that Goemon prototype unveiled by Hidden Palace. Rumors of it being a PS2 game and being the Goemon prototype got me hyped and I wasn't disappointed. Well, besides maybe the amazing intro still being in Japanese lol Once it got released I immediately started playing through it on my PS2. Overall it's a good game, but it DEFINITELY wouldn't have saved Working Designs if it was released. Combat does get better and you get weapons with more range as you go. There are some weird quirks which indicate a rushed release, like a 30 second stealth section that never comes up again, or you getting tons of spirits late in the game randomly, but overall, the dungeons were fun and it was worth playing.

[@xylsky1300]

Gamesack is probably my favorite retro game youtuber with sega lord x coming at a close second

[@valgalder]

I just want to mention that the ending skit on this one is particularly great.. 😂

[@CorinianSalame]

I actually had no idea the Goemon build had leaked. One of my favorite series ever so I know how I’ll be spending my day :)

[@AskDrannik]

Gotta say that, as a leftie myself, I like that Die Hard 64 had John McClane as a left-hander. You don't see that very often in FPSes: the only other game with a leftie main character I can think of is Clive Barker's Undying.

[@subtledemisefox]

Are we talking FPS or games in general? Because Link from Zelda is left-handed.

[@AskDrannik]

@@subtledemisefox FPS

[@andreavila6610]

“Let us develop Mario Kart” Iwata: (laughs)

[@gregorys9629]

That unreleased Castlevania game actually looks like it had some potential. I think the N64 games had some potential despite their flaws and it would have been interesting to see what direction Konami took this game in.

[@vlaznyccc]

I don't know man, i still think Castlevania should be purely 2D, or at least the best games in the series are.

[@y0gafire]

ya that was one i wish'd got to see completion. it was a natural evolution from their n64 entries... also sonia belmont deserved a proper main console entry in CV. idk why konami didnt just rework to ps2 after learning of dreamcast unfortunate demise.

[@y0gafire]

@@vlaznyccc they are best in that format n metroidvanias. but both could co exist... until lords of shadow came along and killed it all. 😔

[@Turbulation1]

Pretty cool to see another one of these videos. And this is exactly around the time that the unreleased Segapede game released.

[@ColeFam]

Goemon on PS2 would have been amazing. Back then, I had no idea that game was in the works and even less of an idea that Working Designs was trying to bring it to us. I did, however, find that plush at a convention a few years back, didn't know what it was meant to promote this game for the longest time. Thanks for another great episode!

[@mausmalone]

One of the things I've always wanted to see, even if it's just an old VHS recording, is the build of Messiah that Shiny reportedly had working on the PS1. It would be neat to see it pushing the limits of the PS1 hardware, and I think the crunchier textures and lighting of the PS1 would've served that game better than the smooth Glide version we ended up getting.

[@BETMARKonTube]

I guess you're really disappointed about the Goemon game's missed release, due to the plush (also giant, in the thumbnail) and the fact that 1/4 of the video is about it. It's a shame, indeed.

[@LBPreviews]

Gotta love that random dig at Klax lol

[@troybranch9720]

Valis collection is up for pre order on limited run and castlemaniagames. While it may not end up being canceled. It will cease to exist in your mind until it randomly appears a year or so later. It's expensive for no apparent reason also.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

that reason is limited run games

[@theodorerelic2718]

I thought that $39.99 for the digital release was ludicrous IMO...I shudder to think what the physical release is priced.

[@troybranch9720]

@@theodorerelic2718 they were around 40 - 50 a pop. Whole collection of 1 2 3 was 144.

[@theodorerelic2718]

@@troybranch9720 Sheesh...I remember finding the Genesis releases of Valis and Valis III for something like $4.99 back in the day....definitely won't find them at that price now :)

[@troybranch9720]

Toplan collection was only about 50 comparatively

[@BLY99]

23:33 Joe is Mandalore confirmed, also that means he's Sseth too. Also the game is on PC if you want to play the full game.

[@trustytrest]

23:35 As soon as that music started up, I got flashbacks to Mandalore's video on the game.

[@Supersayainpikmin]

Check out Scooby Doo Night of 100 Frights on the PS1. It was released on the PS2 as a mediocre platformer, but the cancelled PS1 version is actually an FMV game.

[@bus6292]

I appreciate the TG16 t-shirt.

[@liamwynne566]

Doing a bunch of diarrhea while watching the latest Game sack episode. Life is good, fellas. Life is good 👌🙌

[@MaxZorin2099]

🥂

[@BlownMacTruck]

“What’s your favorite button” is a deep cut.

[@pengwin_]

instead of KLAX i was expecting it to turn into *GREEEEEEEN DOOOOOOOOG!!*

[@JazGalaxy]

I’m about to have so much fun. Thanks Joe! You’re great at what you do.

[@lothargrimm9853]

I love watching Nut Sack, I mean Game Sack on a Sunday morning.

[@jagergerg9771]

You have done a lot of episodes. They are all great. Thank you for the Content

[@bobbyjr.9559]

Awesome video! I really hope we can get that Goemon and far east of eden game finished and sold to the public. we need more good games out there not most of this bullcrap being served out today.

[@TheRagingSerpent]

The Goemon title reminds me of Ape Escape, I feel like that was a large part why it got rejected considering that Ape Escape is a Sony first party IP.

[@TimelordUK]

Joe I always love your writing. Great channel

[@skywalkerranch]

Sweet lord another video from Joe awesome stuff. Thanks for this and all your other videos Joe.

[@Memememe-is1yn]

People interested in this kind of thing should check out the video on the Symphony of the Night port that was almost complete for the Tiger GameCom.

[@dwood78part23]

Happy belated Thanksgiving Day Game Sack et all!

[@Ninjujitsu]

Seeing you punch Panzer Dragoon Saga hurt me physically.

[@explosive_shart9405]

Dave needs to come back for a special episode!

[@jbfarley]

No, he doesn't need to

[@HellfireEternal]

I would definitely use a time machine to help out Working Designs. They brought me so much joy with Dragon Force alone, it's the least I could do!

[@AHMEDRAVENBARNACLE-84]

27:38 And thank you for making GameSack.

[@johnnymo4000]

Man I love Mystic Ninja legend of Goemon, Sad to hear there could have been another game.

[@rufusray]

God bless ya joe, I always fall asleep to early but always wake to a pleasant surprise! Keep em coming buddy, long live the sack......

[@spvrda]

Damn, so many unreleased games I didn't know of! Thank you for the video!

[@costby1105]

I'm pretty sure that The Ring has multiple scenarios to go through and you could end up going through this scenario first at least according to Manalore gaming's video on the PC version.

[@ilikecurry2345]

23:28 That's the funny sound popularized by the late great Kitty0706 and immortalized by his successors.

[@kingbullyrock8739]

I hit my Gunstar Heroes cartridge, and it turned into Greendog for the Sega Genesis

[@subtledemisefox]

Wow! Quite the upgrade!

[@LegendarySuperMario]

I hear if your game becomes Klax after hitting it... you have the pleasure of hitting it a second time to become GREENDOG.

[@chaospoet]

Ha! I thought the same thing. 😆

[@newgameaaaa]

@@chaospoet Me too. I was also thinking of Greendog 64 as an unreleased game.

[@TheTransientOne1]

23:17 My cat this morning while trying to clean her pawns of mud after she decided that running around in the garden just after it stopped raining was a very good idea.

[@alanu4637]

Glad to see some Goemon love and someone else that has the Goemon promotional plush. This series is huge but vastly under rated in the West, but unfortunately the games came out before the Japanese and anime fandom really became popular. Sony really screwed this game and Working Designs over, I like to think this game might have brought the attention the Goemon series that it deserves and possibly saved Working Designs.

[@spain1983carlos]

Joe I really love every video, thankyou so much for create them 💫💥

[@amrguazhalal3361]

In the meantime thank you for doing "Game Sack"

[@digitolwonder]

Trust the sack. Love the sack. Great episode right for the holidays sir!

[@SwayRod836]

Keep hitting that Klax until it becomes Streets of Rage 2 again!

[@M4R14NO94]

I had no idea the PCE Off the Wall proto actually publically surfaced; last I knew of it was only a video of an even earlier proto shared by said port's programmer, Jun Amanai; he has also shared vids of the similarly unreleased PCE ports of Marble Madness and Peter Pack-Rat, as well as canned PCE and Famicom ports of Tengen Japan's Game Gear puzzler Popils. I forget if he mentioned why all those were canned (EDIT: The description for the Off the Wall one does mention that it was a combination of HuCard manufacturing costs and the fact that they would've had to do a rotary controller, as there was none for the PCE)

[@TanookiSuit]

I had that Goemon plush 20 years ago, worked in the industry and they handed them out as premium booth goodies around 01-02, forget what year. Same time you also could get the Ghaleon Lunar punch puppet too. Not sure they would have retailed Goemon, but preorder likely as Ghaleon was.

[@Shendowx]

To be honest I was really excited for this Castlevania game to come to the Dreamcast😿 I still have the Dreamcast magazine that showed off the game and screenshots.

[@nicktaylor8032]

I'm a ong time subscriber, and absolutely love your content. Easily one of my favourite channels in over a decade of KZbin. I did prefer it when you had your mate doing these videos with you, but it's still a superb channel. Anyways, I just wanted to say thank you for such detailed and informative content.

[@BrainSlugs83]

Area selection screens mean it's not the final game; it's a work in progress that you would see at like an E3 Demo, etc. We have some early prototype Ocarina of Time E3 demos, and even some random abandoned PS1 games that do the same thing. Basically, hooking up doors was a last step thing in the development life cycle for some reason for a lot of these games. Also, it made it easy for the Press to see all the areas of the game without a huge time or skill commitment.

[@nixel360]

Interesting video, The Communic aspect of it Kept me engaged bravo

[@phorm57]

The one show on youtube i can "Like" without even watching first.

[@icelandicbanks6473]

Whoa, that Die Hard game would have been something! I loved Die Hard Arcade and Dynamite Cop back in the day

[@mcdb7335]

These videos are awesome and would love if you could turn down the music a bit in the opener so we can hear you better. Love this!

[@zanegandini5350]

Time Diver Eon Man was a really fun action game for the NES that was finished but never released. If I had to guess, it was probably unreleased because the NES was on its way out in 1993, when the game was completed. I'm not sure if it was covered in a previous episode, but Resident Evil for the GBC is also a neat unreleased curiosity.

[@kubev]

Imagine if Sega had included Off the Wall on the Game Gear Micro as a bonus. XD

[@fazares]

Fantastic video as usual...plenty of interesting tidbits...gotta love the final gag as well ahahah

[@andysmith719]

My wife got a little sack right before bed and now I do too! Thanks Game Sack!

[@shakeyourbunny]

You are really teasing the viewers with "destroying" Suikoden 2 :D

[@acdc09]

I wish Scalebound would get finished and released as it looked really cool.

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

Yep, I did know about goemon zero and I Kindy wanted to play it because it was like a sequel to that N64 one ... I didn't know about working design trying to bring it to this side ....

[@jasonz7788]

As always, solid work Sir thank you

[@StitchJones]

Good stuff! Thank you for sharing these with us.

[@SfjpMoon]

Ready, Set..... Game Sack. The reason for Sunday morning.