"UnSchooling" Is Dumb

[@Kai-Createss]

As someone who does online school due to bullying/harassment, unschooling is BS! I learn through an app, sure its not the best but at least i learn! This is just setting kids back, its horrible. I feel bad for those kids..

[@Shrewzs]

Honestly learning through a program is a lot easier for some people compared to in person school, not to mention you can also go through courses faster because the information is more compact and direct ( in my experience ).

[@Tarts_Of_Art]

i also do online schooling but i have zoom classes because i just dont wanna deal with people and my school is just an online school i have already been in and its actually pretty advanced. and i also think unschooling does nothing good for ANYONE.

[@Kai-Createss]

@@Shrewzs For most people, yes. I struggle with online school, due to the fact theres no social interaction. I'm a very social person so that definitely lacks. Though, I do get my socializing through other ways! I just like in person school better, because it's easier for me personally. My siblings prefer online, but I prefer in person.

[@Kai-Createss]

@@Tarts_Of_Art my school doesn't do zoom, so I miss that interaction aspect for me, which I personally like. But I understand why most people don't!

[@sporeboar]

what app do you use :O

[@DyldoBaggins595]

I was unschooled unfortunately. I am wildly uneducated and have been grinding by the skin of my teeth fpr years, because my parents thought it would be more worth it for me to start learn how to work and take care of of a house at 14 years old, then kicked me out at 18 for being gay. Now at 23 years old I’ve been given the opportunity to get my education starting from scratch and I’m set to graduate by the end of the year. My mental health, self esteem, and my economic standing have been absolutely destroyed before I even had the chance to develop at all. Unschooling is NEGLECT. Point blank. The only reason I’m not on the streets right now is because I was adopted by my aunt and uncle. These people are criminals.

[@Thatgenderconfused3mo]

Omg?? I’m So fucking Sorry you went through that and are going through that you deserved and deserve so much better than that☹️I’m so happy for you to be getting this second chance and it is so cool of you to be doing this and not letting them keep you down. I wish you the best of luck in your schooling and growth🥺💜

[@DyldoBaggins595]

@@Thatgenderconfused3mo that’s really kind of you 💕

[@Thatgenderconfused3mo]

@@DyldoBaggins595 I’m fully cheering and rooting for you and your blossoming🥺💜 you go this! I fully believe in you and know you can do this and much more bestie🫰🏻🫰🏻

[@donutswithlotsofsugar]

What the actual hell??? Are your parents made out of toxic waste from a dumpster?? I'm so sorry you have to go through all of that when you were so young. Taking away your education and childhood then kicking you out of the house just because of your sexual orientation are so INSANELY trashy. I know that we're strangers but I hope that you're feeling better and happy at whatever you're doing in life right now, I wish you the best of luck!!

[@hallow.weenie]

I'm rooting for you! If you want or need help with anything these resources helped me a lot: The organic chem tutor (lots of math and science) Crash Course Those books that are titles like ____ for Dummies National geographic If you use these resources or not you got this! I believe in you!

[@cosm0s_puppy56]

unschooling is just child neglect with a pretty pink bow on it

[@Shrewzs]

literally. it also allows children no escape from an abusive household let alone a safe space to express themselves.

[@theboyeho]

My exact thought

[@celestinacdlc]

they just give it a name so they dont get in trouble

[@Serene._sxlace]

So coquette ୨୧⊹˙

[@melon2point082]

@@Shrewzs can back that up w experience 🙏:/

[@hanakize]

It's depressing that we've come to a point where so many people just can't believe in the education system. I get that it can suck to go through but sheltering your kids from a proper teacher and a chance to learn more about the community they're in is so damaging...

[@nicolekent9518]

Graduated in 2022, in just 2 years my highschool has started paying my attention to the wellbeing of their students. I know teachers are stressed, but we cannot simply keep letting kids slip through cracks

[@vvitch-mist20]

What I wanna know is why they aren't assuming their roles as a mother or a parent also a teaching role? Like I taught my daughter how to throw out garbage by just throwing out garbage every day. I'm not a board certified early child educator. Teachers in public schools are taught how to teach our kids information that is vital. Math teachers, chemists and lawyers aren't born this way usually. Hell even an artist needs the bare bones of an education bc art steams from knowledge, and school is a hub of knowledge.

[@keiramartin8185]

Right? School is essential for children to learn social skills. Take the Covid babies for example, many struggle with communicating and interacting with their peers.

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@keiramartin8185 It's kinda sad people don't take this into consideration when they talk about Gen Alpha.

[@nicolekent9518]

@@keiramartin8185 some of them don’t understand that their younger siblings aren’t at the same spot as they are. And the fast paced attention farming videos they get exposed to doesn’t help them

[@maskgobrrrr431]

My father pulled me out of school after 6th grade and did "unschooling" with me during COVID, it was the most miserable years of my life and I'm stunted academicly, I struggle to understand stuff that most people learned in middle school

[@zuwichsen]

Cool pfp fellow dally face fan

[@maskgobrrrr431]

@@zuwichsen thanks bro! I kin Larry so hard

[@Shrewzs]

let me guess, you also struggle with basic math...

[@maskgobrrrr431]

@@Shrewzs I struggle with division and fractions

[@h4rpy.inactive]

​@@maskgobrrrr431I HATE FRACTIONS IVE BEEN LEARNING FOR THREE YEARS I STILL DONT GET IT 😭

[@_l8000]

same ppl who are gonna ask “why doesnt my child have good a job ☹️☹️☹️” or “why does my child still live at home at 39?”

[@Maskof_Infamy]

Kid hasn’t asked how to be taught to do taxes yet 😂

[@CandiedInChaos]

unschooled kid here, thats what my mother wants, my way older sister hasn't moved out and my mother loves it, she believes kids should never move out, and since we live in the middle of nowhere we can't get jobs, it's horrible

[@steponkusceponas4085]

​@@CandiedInChaos so sorry for you having to live this way

[@cloudyskyz2237]

Tbf, the child still living at home at 29 really does apply to the US these days, and not because they’re uneducated. It’s because they’re so underpaid they can’t afford their own housing.

[@Rita-kx3yr]

​@@CandiedInChaosI had to deal with a similar situation and there is a way out. Aim for your GED if you don't have it. Next, check if your state has an apprentice program or something similar. Some of them provide room and board, some even provide transportation to the facility. Otherwise, the pandemic opened up a lot more opportunity for online jobs. Honestly you don't even need to aim for a regular job. Just getting any funds is a great start even if it's just gift cards or a few dollars. As you can use it to get a headset for better jobs or pay for a certification exam. There are resources and communities of kids who were raised by parents that never thought them important stuff. It might take some time but you can do it.

[@frankii4w]

The concept of unschooling is so weird and just wrong. I was homeschooled my entire childhood and that was bad enough, but this is even worse.

[@Shrewzs]

isn't it funny how most of us homeschooled kids actually had a bad experience...

[@angelcuree]

​@@Shrewzs its horrible 😭 ESPECIALLY if you have a horrible parent, but even without that it SUCKS, we have no friends, no social skills, no nothing. i would much rather go to public school than be homeschooled, its hell

[@novakitty1619]

@@angelcuree it's just a different flavor of hell i promise

[@Pastellera2video]

@@Shrewzs the funny thing is whenever I read about homeschooling. It’s either the worst or the literal best I’ve heard some people describe how they’re gonna graduate university and they have high paying jobs due to homeschooling and shit It’s never in between for some reason I don’t know why the pendulum are so extreme like that -

[@angelcuree]

@@Pastellera2video because of being homeschooled, i AM smarter than the "average person", but i am still not good at a lot of things. i am horrible at math because of the pressure i was put under because i was being perceived by only my mother, so it was very very stressful. i HATE math because of that.

[@AqsaAbdiraxman]

Honestly although school can suck it teaches you two very important life skills - how to do things you don't want to do, and how to work with people you don't want to work with. Denying kids that is setting them up to fail.

[@CheeseThePurpleDragon]

EXACTLY.

[@GravityDontMeanTooMuchTooMe]

Fr! A lot of stuff unschooling teaches is just stuff yoh learn from PARENTS BEING PARENTS

[@Shrewzs]

@@AqsaAbdiraxman not to mention children taken out of school will only learn what they want, I know because I was one.

[@xxaavviieerrrrr]

yes, to me the social & "disliked but mandatory" aspect of school is the most important, because for better or worse the child will grow up to be more resilient & sure of themselves when having to grow in a place with a variety of opinions & types of people

[@inubaka07]

It also teaches kids how to function on their own without their parents constantly hovering over them and make their own decisions.

[@nicluvsyou237]

my mom is an accountant, my dad is a pharmacist, I am going to school for interior architecture. I NEVER would've known that interior design is my passion if it wasn't for a class at my highschool. I HATE parents like this

[@reshammaa]

This is the point of school, ya everything is not relevant to everyone but there is something for everyone and this is where we can discover it. Even if u decide school sucks, how would you know unless u actually go to school.

[@nicluvsyou237]

@@reshammaa exactly! yes i really don't enjoy math or science, but i learned thru school that I love history and interior architecture!

[@Alex_hehehe]

My mom did unschooling and I couldn’t read till I was 11 (I’m now 15 and still have problems with spelling and reading) and I suck at math. I’m now in public school and I love it.

[@StrangeSpark]

I'm sorry that you experienced that and you're on your educational journey

[@Ms.K305]

As a teacher, unschooling makes me sad for those kids. The social interaction and having other people, outside of your immediate family, provides a diverse way of thinking. Also schools are places where abuse from home is usually noticed first, it seems like an isolation tactic. The lady with the forehead tattoo and the bulging eyes does the bare minimum of being a guiding adult to her own kids. Admitting to no curriculum, no set hours, allowing kids to dictate when they want to learn something (spoiler: kids always want to learn) shows how little of pedagogy, childhood psychology, and childhood development she understands. But at the same time I’m glad these type of parents stay away from the school house, because they’d probably question your every move as a professional educator. Good luck to those babies.

[@sakarikokotala9160]

I homeschool my kids for years now. I have to submit paperwork to our local government school along with a portfolio at the end of the school year. My kids choose the start of class and topics but they also the normal subjects like reading,writing and arithmetic. But they also have penmanship, spelling and dictation in what public school call ELA class. One of my kid wanted to learn about psychology and veterinary science. They this year wanted to learn about German and Russian language along with Introduction to Homestead Science with other subjects like political science and financial literacy. They have to take their ACT test this year, and SAT are next year. I have one kid who wants to learn Animal Behavior course but I could find one course from a online college course. And one other kid wants to get a course in animal fema rescue course which they will be certified. And my youngest wants to be certified in vector rabies animals rehabilitation, which they will be the only one certified out of the whole county. We don’t have weekends or holidays off because we don’t follow our public school schedules. We are involved in Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts and 4H groups. They have homeschooled CO-OP group. My kids belong to pony club too. I have include all this in their portfolio that is submitted to public school, otherwise public school calls Child Protection Services to report negligence if they are below grade level. But what about those teachers who have students who are in the public school classroom that are below grade level get reported to Child Protection Services for negligence? But parents do. What is the consequence for teachers who have students who are below grade levels? Are they fired? Just wondering.

[@Ms.K305]

@@sakarikokotala9160 if an entire class falls behind a grade, yeah, the teacher is fired.

[@lilia3944]

I teach the closest thing public schools have to unschooling: moderate/severe disability, especially intellectual disability. We teach a lot more behavioral and life skills than academics, but there's still a schedule, a curriculum, goals and guidance and social interaction. And we do academics - some students can read and do maths, others can recognize their name or count to five, again others just learned how to choose between two activities. We can be more child-led than general education because there's no fixed curriculum, but that doesn't mean doing nothing. I feel so sad for those children. I get struggling with a strict curriculum when your kids can't follow it, that's part of the reason I enjoy teaching self-contained. I get hating how personal development and even needs come second to academics sometimes. But then you adapt things, you don't just throw everything out the window. Children don't know how to get what they want, they want to read chapter books before they can recognize letters and build a rocket before they know how to calculate velocity. Better hope your child is immortal, because figuring physics out from scratch took us some centuries...

[@Ms.K305]

@@lilia3944 agree with everything you say. Thank you for your hard work and for setting your students up for success by giving them the skills they need to live an independent and fulfilling life.

[@lilia3944]

@@Ms.K305 I'm trying my best. It's rare for students to go on and live an independent life, at least right out of school, but we can give them as much self-advocacy skills and independence as possible. We transition more independent students to less restrictive settings when possible, this is the most restrictive it gets. Currently got 9 kids and 4 to 5 adults...

[@AnnBurgessFan]

i get and appreciate the intention of unschooling, but it’s done by people who have no idea what they’re doing and the irreparable damage they’ll do to their child’s social and educational skills

[@red2coreblue584]

exactly!!! ive seen it work in real life before, but these people have NO FUCKING CLUE. theyre all really shitty teachers!!!

[@yourancientancestor]

As someone who was unschooled yes you're a hundred percent right and I feel stupid and incapable of social interactions but apparently I seem fine from the outside so nobody understand why I'm so messed up sometimes

[@JL_Pope]

I don’t bc some parents just want to shelter their child from any other influences that could pull them from influences that exist in their home in other words these kids aren’t allowed to have a sense of self or set of opinions outside of what their parents have taught them, it’s detrimental to that child’s development and how they will look at and think of themselves later in life

[@sierrabird2460]

This I do know one person who's kids absolutely thrived but she actually taught them while unschooling. they thrived in private school grade wise. but that's outside of the norm with unschooling.

[@sterlingklein5626]

One of my favorite sayings is "you can't know what you don't know." If you don't know certain things are out there to learn about, how would you know to ask to learn about it?! Absolutely wild that people are basically encouraging ignorance.

[@Truffle85]

I'm becoming convinced that parents are the biggest obstacles to learning. They hate books, they hate teachers, they just sit in their corners and growl.

[@elisam.r.9960]

I've reached a similar conclusion myself.

[@Jabberwocky112]

Assistant librarian here. You’re unfortunately correct. Parents can either be very helpful and good around the place and with others, or a literal nightmare to deal with and the worst patrons.

[@YoutubeAskedMeToChangeThis]

Don't generalize, plenty of parents that encourage their children's curiosity. Things are never as bad as they look.

[@captainhindsight6994]

They are. I did support work for years, one of the main points of our training was how much of a obstacle some parents can be. I worked with one kid whose mum would ask us to do x y z then have a go at us for doing so and the reverse would happen the next day. She ended up going to court due to things and that came up. She was still blaming us for lying and couldn't get it that it was her. Extreme example but it's a real thing unfortunately

[@pastagolia8712]

These are the type of people who make homeschoolers look bad. Homeschooling is a great thing for certain people and situations, but unschooling is only a great thing for neglectful parents I was homeschooled and it was the best decision my parents could have made for me. I graduated college a couple years ago, I'm pretty smart according to my SAT scores and GPA, and I also was allowed to pursue my interests IN ADDITION to regular learning! I hate that unschooling and homeschooling are talked about together because they are NOTHING alike!

[@Shrewzs]

exactly, I had a bad experience with homeschooling/unschooling however I do acknowledge that it actually is good for children who have educational needs that aren't met in a public school. and in general some parents are wonderful at homeschooling their kids :)

[@pastagolia8712]

​@@Shrewzsexactly! My parents did a lot of research and had the time and knowledge to teach me and my sister and handle our various special needs. Whenever I talk about homeschooling with a public schooler, they assume that I want everyone to be homeschooled, but it simply isn't for every situation

[@AmapaenseBakedBacon]

I wish I was homeschooled

[@lkblondie8061]

I was unschooled from birth until I was 15. I honestly believe it's a form of cult. I was essentially exiled from the community for opening up about my experience being sexually assaulted and abused by multiple adults and other children in the space. I went from being groomed by other unschoolers to being in college at 15 with other adults who assumed I was their age and would also make sexual advances, all of which my mother pushed me to agree to or at the very least let continue. Thankfully I made good friends in College who became almost like second parents in the way that they essentially raised me. They let me stay over when my family would scream at me, and would pick me up when boyfriends mistreated me. They also were open about concerns with how my family treated me which helped me realize that my life was not as amazing as I thought it was and how much I was put in danger. I'm now 21, burnt out, left college, in a therapy program as well as individual therapy. I still live at home with my abusive parents, I'm trying to get out but I was literally never taught to be independent so I'm basically learning everything now instead of being taught as I grew up.

[@annie3746]

Please just keep learning whatever it is you need to be independent and leave. It’s much less scarier out there than it is in that home with parents like yours.

[@lemonbutternoodles]

MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WAKE UP

[@Inactiveacc1201]

HELLOOOO

[@killjoy_extraordinaire]

LOUIS HAS RIZZEN

[@ddarling988]

IM UP 🔥🔥

[@salamistuff]

I AM AWAKE

[@Queen_Of_The_Stars]

IM AWAKE

[@MonolithicCyanTsunami]

Children NEED structure so bad, it’s integral for their development and mental wellbeing, it’s nothing short of neglectful to project your manic pixie dream life onto them when they have no choice but to follow and trust you. These lazy parents need to look at the bigger picture and see just how badly they’re going to set these kids back for the future.

[@tatiana4050]

Allowing your kids to learn only what they want to learn wouldn't be so bad if you gave them loads of opportunities to learn. Took them on trips to museums or planetarium some fun educational places. Not just sat them in front of the tablet. Kids often love to learn but they just don't have the skills to express or pursue that. Kids love to meet and greet animals and learn about them. But they won't just go "I want to meet animals I don't know exist yet"

[@samarieow]

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[@MonolithicCyanTsunami]

@@samarieow based Marina pfp

[@niicespiice]

@@tatiana4050 yeah and i think this is the main problem with people criticising unschooling, because they are assuming it means "ignoring your children." which is obviously child neglect. but i don't think that's an inherent part of the concept of unschooling. it's just not going to school, and without the baggage that the word "homeschool" often implies (which seems to usually have lessons at certain times? things like that? idk im homeschooled but i do not have that).

[@Aaaaahellokitty]

As a child of unschooling, don't put your child through that, its intellectual/educational and can be general neglect, and everything Louis says, is correct, even the 18 year old finally learning about division joke, my sister is 18, and STILL doesn't know it.. I do because I did MY OWN SCHOOLING because my parents just didnt care enough to put me in any online or physical school...

[@tatiana4050]

It's literally a crime in some countries. In some countries children have to be in education until 16 or 18 or until graduating specific level. If you pull your child out from school and can't prove they are recieveing suitable education you will be in trouble.

[@Guro-Blue-kun]

Sincerely sorry, I hope you're in a better place now. You deserve it and can do it with efforts and some free ressources. You got this! Wishing you all the best 💙🌈🦾

[@rebeccaseppanen3767]

This sounds so hard to be the sole motivator also getting an education. Going through most schools or with active parents you have encouragement and guidance. This sounds so overwhelming. And also hard when things that are common knowledge for others are not for you. So it's like welp I guess that's another thing to add to the table.

[@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr]

@tatiana4050 It’s the same in the US. Children have to go to school or receive their education somehow by law. It’s illegal to not provide children with an education. The issue is there’s not always teeth to the law. It gets abused by certain groups who have an interest in isolating or neglecting a child’s education. Not everyone is like that, but I would say that’s the main difference you’re seeing in the US. To my understanding (though I was never homeschooled nor was I unschooled) homeschooling does have expectations to hold some kind of proof of learning, but the standards differ by state. Not every state holds people accountable to having that proof of learning. Or people just lie or misrepresent what is actually happening with the child’s education. With unschooling, it seems there’s even less oversight than what was happening before in the country.

[@zou1507]

"unschooling" should be classified as an abuse. And as someone familiar with The Montessori method of education I can loudly say it's absolutely not it.

[@raesour2806]

Exactly! I went to a Montessori school for grades 1-3, and it’s different than unschooling in that with Montessori learning, you still learn the necessary core subjects, but in multiple ways. For example you still learn times tables, but you might also use visual and tactile elements to learn too by things like diagrams and structures (rows x columns) etc

[@DeceasedSpider]

In Louis we trust, helping us understand weird trends as always 🙏🙏🙏

[@ballreal3]

is this not idolatry

[@Star_SoupXD]

Yes 🙏🙏🙏

[@ballreal3]

@@Star_SoupXD ..

[@ballreal3]

@@DeceasedSpider y'all better idolise Jesus as mutch as this youtuber

[@bat_bird]

@ballreal3 Buddy not everyone is a Christian, if you are that’s cool but don’t force it on other ppl and just let us enjoy watching Louis’s w videos

[@livvycat]

Additionally, parents don't have the tools to identify learning disorders or how to adjust learning to set the kid up for success. They also miss out on learning how to be around people you're not related to or cope with people you dislike. It's actually really sad.

[@ddarling988]

RIGHT WHEN I GET HOME FROM SCHOOL LOUIS POSTS ABOUT UNSCHOOLING ??? UNSCHOOLING MORE LIKE UNCOOLIJG!!!!!

[@Aster.ix_.]

taco pfp ?!

[@ja1d3n426]

Fellow II fan spotted in the wild😱😱😱‼️

[@vest-tube.canonn]

RAAH TACO PFP (I just got a keychain of her, I’m also at your house btw. Open the door you coward)

[@Quan-on6fx]

Same

[@tr-st_me_bro]

@@vest-tube.canonn is that a threat i can’t tell

[@mic6412]

You know what’s so scary? The child’s speech sounds like a 4 year olds… I don’t think those parents even talk to their child. Like at all! A child’s verbal communication at that age should be better.

[@trixIsHere1]

Idk if I should share this but, in 7th grade (last 7 weeks) i left bc of bullying and some personal trauma but I’m now doing online homeschool! The difference between unschooling and me is I have good social skills, I know how to answer simple questions abt various topics but why do I say this? Because I had 7 YEARS of interactions with other people my age, these kids will have NO social skills,and will never really understand things properly because it’s just what the mom knows and wants him to know. I’m passing all my classes with As btw

[@Shrewzs]

Yooo I'm proud of you

[@MS-wh7ec]

Hey congrats on doing so well!! So glad you could find a solution to getting an education which meant you didn’t have to put yourself in harms way ❤ you should proud of yourself :)

[@trixIsHere1]

@@MS-wh7ec tysm!!

[@trixIsHere1]

@@Shrewzs TY!!

[@redamance]

YES!! i went to public school until 8th grade and im so glad i learned social skills before being homeschooled🙏

[@elvishdust]

“unschooling” is just the Montessori teaching mentality but like 10,000% worse at doing the teaching part

[@socalbarbie1040]

Lmaoooooo

[@Truffle85]

I did the montessori method from kindergarten to grade 3, and they did have some structure. The class met periodically, there was homework, and clear expectations. Unschooling has no structure, no expectations and adults rarely interact with the children.

[@amaramurray682]

yeah i went to a montessori school from 4th-8th grade and there was structure

[@ishathakor]

i dont really think its like the montessori method at all tbh because respecting your child and expecting them to teach themselves everything they need to know are completely different things.

[@SweetforS]

Umm I went to a Montessori from K-5 and it was literally normal private school? Idk what yours is like but it’s literally normal. We had folders given to us for each subject and were expected to do schoolwork, homework, and even science projects starting from 1st grade where most kids don’t even start until 3rd grade (granted my dad helped me a lot in 1st and 2nd), and we did standard testing at the end of each year. That check out as normal for me? In the 1st grade I was ahead of others so they even gave me and one other kid some 5th grade math sheets and again some 6th grade ones in 2nd grade. Some of us were even reading at a 10th grade level by 4-5th grade. Where is the issue? Helped me out enough that when I went to public school in 6th grade I was in one of the top 2 classes out of 1000 students and in honors classes every year from 7th grade on.

[@Shrewzs]

I was taken out of school in the 4th grade due to me being bullied, after the first few months I begged to go back to school, every request I had was denied by my mother, who although was qualified to be an educator, gave up on me and my needs due to her other children. Homeschooling only a few years later turned into un-schooling for me and my sister. When we moved in with our father ( I 14 and my sister 12 ) we were put back into school. Socializing with people after years of not interacting with anyone was so terrible for me, I had no social or communication skills, not to mention how anxious I was because I wasn't used to so many people. I also had to be put back a grade below when I was enrolled again because I didn't understand the things being taught other than writing and reading. I am now a junior in highschool and need extra help in math and have difficulties understanding basic math. My experience with being homeschooled was terrible not to mention the situation I was in with my mother was abusive. being homeschooled and not around anyone allowed that situation to further become worse for me and my mental health. Their needs to be more rules and restrictions when it comes to homeschooling.

[@marymaza2187]

4:55 as someone who hates waste, seeing one "word" every two blank pages made my eye twitch. Like, at least make sure they learn to make good use of their notebooks 📚📝

[@Nockgun]

this hurts me. i literally have to think to draw pretty or draw decently to even begin to draw stuff

[@mckenna_L_]

Un-schoolers are the train wreck I can’t look away from so I’m glad young Louis is taken them on next. The 6 year old writing words in a notebook video lives rent free in my head…

[@indigolash4650]

Felt lmao, I’m the girl who did the video in there mirror who was unschooled and talked about not supporting it, genuinely the comment I get (daily still even though the video is 3 years old now) from unschooling mothers of very young children genuinely petrifies me. These woman sound insane and misspell half their words, use improper grammar while defending what they are doing making them selves look ridiculous.

[@alexandraberzin8660]

Kelsey is not an entrepreneur. She is high up in an MLM company (pyramid scheme)

[@JRand5501]

She is a serial “entrepreneur” scammer.

[@multimahl]

I've never been unschooled, but having to learn online during covid in my supposedly most social teenage years has made me socially anxious and more introverted. It's been hell.

[@totalcIown]

okay i think i can say something about this since i myself am unschooled here's the reason the school i went to quite literally emotionally neglected me i could go on and on about how it did so much to me so i dropped out at 8 and i literally cannot learn the normal way i only learn through videos and im really behind other 15 year olds, the only subjects i learn about is history and geography because thats all im interested in and thats only recently because for the first 4 years i barely made any attempt to learn but idk what else im meant to do, my opinion is if the child does not have a reason like trauma to be unschooled DONT DO ITTT especially if the child isnt a teenager 😭

[@Louis_McClung]

Thank you for sharing your story.

[@Shrewzs]

Honestly I'm glad it worked out for you and you were able to find a way that you could learn and process information :)

[@icanpotatetothat]

I was unschooled until high school; I begged to be enrolled in public school freshman year and my mom decided to let me. Public school has tons of issues, especially with the treatment of teachers, but unschooling does LIFELONG damage to kid's development in more ways than just educational! I have trouble making myself practice instruments or study when I need to because I wasn't really taught that necessary self-discipline

[@SofiaSummerlin]

when I was kid I didn’t go to daycare instead I stayed with my grandma and she homeschooled me to the level she thought I could do. Then again there was no curriculum but she did teach me the things I needed to know and more. After this I went to kindergarten already knowing how to read. So I do believe this could be kinda valid but you need. Need. Need. To teach them how to read and stuff they use in life

[@Shrewzs]

honestly I know a lot of people who held their kids back for a year before preschool to let them mature a bit and also gain some more skills, and its actually a really good thing and helps a lot of kids out especially when they are that young.

[@keiramartin8185]

The problem is: at some point there will be things that kids need to learn but they will never ask the question because they didn’t know that they need to ask about it. Relying on your kid to ask the right questions is risky and simply unrealistic.

[@emilymckay9164]

As a teacher, this trend is so dumb!! Even if the curriculum a student has looks a bit different, there is still a PLAN. Also as an mn teacher it took SO much work and planning to be a teacher, and the fact that the first mom is just doing it as she goes… hurts

[@HauntedHouseAnimations]

The pun at the start gave me flashbacks to my dad when I was in middle school

[@SagaRydberg]

unschooling is so baffling to me since things like unschooling is literally illegal in my country.. how do they expect their children to have a future???

[@indigolash4650]

It is illegal in most states to unschooling but since nobody ever reports these families to CPS and it’s hard to prove if it’s homeschooling or neglect they tend to get away with the abuse like my family did. I was actually the girl in the video talking about why I hated it.

[@SagaRydberg]

@@indigolash4650 oh dang, thats horrible to hear, it makes sense with that cps thing tho.

[@Krueger444]

"Unschooling" is basically the supplemental parental engagement that's supposed to be done in addition to school.

[@QtPieMarth]

I was homeschooled after being in a failing school district that also happened to include racist bullying by staff and students alike. I was an Army brat and my mom took homeschooling me incredibly seriously. I was able to study work well above my grade level (which is where I was at) and did high school reading and middle school math in 3rd grade. I’m incredibly grateful for how seriously my mom took homeschooling me, as we would still socialize with things like chess clubs and other activities. We went to museums both individually and with other homeschool kids. My mother, however, was also someone who had gotten her teaching certificate right when we started. I did eventually return to public and later private school, but I would have been incredibly stunted educationally had I stayed in the other school.

[@cur1ouscatf1sh]

I taught Spanish for 3-7 year olds last year, and I can say firsthand that teaching preliterate children is extremely difficult. You don’t realize how much of teaching relies on reading and writing until you try to teach without it. Even for my older kiddos who were reading chapter books in English, I generally avoided anything that would confuse their English phonics knowledge (I was with them every other week, not an immersion environment, unfortunately - but that’s a complaint for another time). Coming up with activities without words is very, very hard, especially with no training. I sort of stumbled into the job without education training (this is another thing I could complain about regarding the school I taught at) besides the developmental psychology textbook I read cover to cover the weekend before my first day and the book about language learning theory I convinced the school to buy for me. It’s hard to teach other subjects without written text and it’s hard to teach reading without any training. There are people who spend lifetimes figuring out how kids learn best, and it’s critical for teachers to make use of that research. It’s much more complicated than just singing the ABC song and spelling words. It takes a lot of repetition of each of the different components, which isn’t something you know how to do if you’re a yoga instruction or whatever who quit their job to be a van life influencer (or a recent college grad who was only planning on being a substitute teacher, lmfao - I still don’t know why they hired me). There’s also a lot of social-emotional learning that goes on at that point, and a really big piece of that is being around other kids. TL;DR send your kids to school, ffs!!

[@michellesstars]

"unschooling sucks" we all say in unison

[@therandomshow_]

I was in homeschooling. We had school the normal times as public school, had books and tests bought from an actual academy that had homeschooling available. My older sister decided to go a step further and unschool my nephew...She makes him work on stuff, machines, for her small business on FB. Calling it "workshop." He can't spell basic words, and believe me, I tried myself to teach him what his mom was lacking in. That got me screamed at and "how dare I try to teach that stupid shit to her son! He doesn't NEED to know any history besides America!" 😭 Instead the ONLY 'history' he learned was from the HISTORY CHANNEL. She "graduated" him EARLY. At 15...I've been no contact since I moved out, but these poor kids are set up to fail by thier own parents. It's freaking sad

[@jazprio]

I haven't watched the video yet, but i'm so happy more people are starting to talk about this, I am currently 16 and "unschooled" I was pulled out of school in 3rd grade, and i have no clue where im going to go or what im going to do in the future due to my lack of education and general life skills

[@Pastellera2video]

I hope you find your way 🩵

[@cicig1827]

Reading and writing must be taught explicitly and systematically once the early literacy skills are developed. Otherwise your child could have major gaps in their reading and writing skills. My sister learned to read through rote memorization of words and she doesn't know what she doesn't know at this point. So far, she's figured out that phonics were actually important for knowing how to pronounce words and to this day still mispronounces words she's never heard spoke . There are other skills and knowledge she missed out on and she's now a teacher and mad at herself and her early teachers because she is having to learn basic stuff.

[@asveses5730]

When a lot of people quit the same job, the problem is not the individual... Seriously, I hate when people blame others for circumstances out of their control, no matter what.

[@TotallyxKatiee]

I was unschooled, but not to this extreme. My parents only taught me how to read, write, and basic math. I was not taught grammar or how to write, only the physical act of writing. I was not taught a lot of stuff, including science and history. I didn’t know what agriculture was when I went to college at 21, just for a reference. I got my degree in secondary education because of how being unschooled affected me. I’ve always had low self esteem because I used to believe I wasn’t smart because I didn’t know things kids my age did when I was growing up. I wanted to be the teacher I never had, but I agree with you that the public education system is so bad. When I went to college I taught myself how to write and basic grammar, so much my cooperating teacher complimented me on my knowledge of my content area as her previous student teachers were not that knowledgeable (I am licensed in English). It makes me very sad how little kids value their education coming from an adult who really didn’t get one. Teachers are severely underpaid and under appreciated. I graduated in December 2023 and I really am not pursuing the job because I make the same going back to my job ar Walmart after student teaching. Many teachers don’t care and are too stressed to care, but it is better than what is going on with this movement. There is a reason why you have to go to school to teach and it is a lot of hoops to jump through. You have to take more credits than an average college degree, and if you are secondary as I was it is basically like you are a double major because you have your content area portion and your certification portion. These people have no clue how children learn nor how to teach, their ignorance makes me so sad for their kids. That teenager who said she taught herself to read reminds me a lot of myself, but my mother was not that neglectful as she did teach me how to read and I have always been a strong reader. However, she probably will never be as strong of a reader as her peers because she missed that stage in kindergarten-3rd grade when her brain was like a sponge, or plastic as it’s called. It is harder to acquire skills such as reading at an older age. These parents don’t know anything about learning or how their children’s brain works, just so sad.

[@MissPinker101]

28:04 I WAS CROCHETING THIS WHOLE TIME

[@amayagreer9691]

ME TO

[@sky30p75]

Oh slay! What are you making?

[@MissPinker101]

@@sky30p75 a messenger bag, it came out so cute! The base was pink the flap was white and the pockets were floral, I added some pearls and pearl buttons on! I added lace bows on the bottom ends and on the thing that goes on your shoulder! I put a fake rose on the tip of the flap. This was my favorite crochet! (+sewing)

[@N0T_4_V4MP1R3]

I just came across you a few months ago cuz you kept coming up in my feed and you look EXACTLY like me but with a mustache, and then I just ended up liking your content but damn it was a weird experience, ily Louis you're my fav drama KZbin doppelganger

[@ehg_in_hell]

I just wanna say that the "Welcome, Members of the Audience" always makes me feel seen. Like... Hell yeah! I'm a member of the audience!

[@imdoingfine_]

4:26 I’ve been homeschooled my whole life, and I think my mom took it in a very good and structured way. Once I reached high school, learning was essentially my responsibility (with constant help and assistance), but it was nothing like unschooling. I had a structure, I was held accountable. Now I’m taking college courses early and thriving! Homeschooling is different for everybody but I think my experience has pretty much only been positive. I get socialization and have a lot of extracurriculars! Unschooling is pretty much nothing like that.

[@ItzSolEclipse06]

YAY! I COME BACK FROM SCHOOL TO A LOUIS VID!

[@rebeccaseppanen3767]

My mom did that in grocery stores too but I also went to public school my mom used the opportunity to quiz me on finding what the price of something was if it is say 20%off. This was before stores just told. You she also taught me to compare items and see how much is it and how much are you getting. Cutting coupons and cleaning but as you said this is parenting. My mom didn't teach me from scratch fractions that was taught in school. She helped me after school real life skills and practicing these things.

[@person_5624]

my history professor summed this up pretty well by essentially saying “the kid would have to know what questions to ask and if they don’t know what questions can be answered how can they know to ask them?”

[@PappyHal]

Do US folks not get arrested or fined for not sending their kids to school? Over here in the UK in some cases it's considered abuse to not let a child gain an education.

[@Because-rt8qs]

There are some states where home education isn't regulated, you can home educate with zero legal requirements. So that's why no one will arrest the parents.

[@buffer_brain1917]

Some states basically go off the honor system. These states also usually don’t require that the things being taught are factually correct. There are literally curriculum programs that parents can buy that cater to Nazis and white supremacists.

[@courtneycalvert185]

You have to give the government notice that you are doing your own homeschool program. The government is pretty hands off after that point

[@One_Flew_West]

I was unschooled for 18 years in the UK. It is sadly legal. We were even investigated, but that only led to a yearly inspection. Part of me wants to campaign against unschooling in the UK, but I would genuinely fear the intense hatred I would get from the crazy mums.

[@Maybe_insane]

“YIPPEE” we all shout in unison

[@Bunniculazz]

Homeschooling was the worst decision my very narcissistic mom ever made. She is extremely uneducated and couldn’t help me past 4th grade work.

[@BriannaBow]

My mom made me do this stuff 😖😖 I got bullied relentlessly, and my mom decided to punish *me* by pulling me out of the eighth grade. I never got to attend high school. Thank you for talking about this 💗

[@thegrapedoctor13]

Thanks for sharing, I'm really sorry that you had to go through that bullying is actually the worst, I'm sure you're wonderful ♡

[@Kamyia.]

As much as i hated public school before online , they do teach you necessary things if you take the right classes. All my math glasses, geography , social studies and elar classes were extremely helpful , as well as i took business and communications which also taught me a lot of crucial things about the business world , professional, how to make a resume and have a good job interview as well as taxes , and a lot of vocabulary words and explanations pertaining to money , loans , how to buy a house or budgeting your expenses when youre an adult

[@shinydiamonds0458]

“Math, reading, and maybe science” MAYBE 😭😭 I feel so bad for these children

[@Marian-zo7ii]

WAS JUST WATCHING FUNK FROG BAIT AND AM NOW WATCHING LOUIS MCCLUNG, TODAY IS GOODDDD

[@evileggsaladsnail]

NO WAY I GOT A LOTION AD RIGHT AFTER HE SAID EDGING LMAO

[@DraidensDen]

KZbin can sometimes be funny like that

[@silly_lunatic]

I love coming home from school and seeing that Louis posted

[@misterpediaman]

same

[@Punkrockpenguin2]

Lmao

[@Iamgoatandtheonlygoat]

1:40 not me i acutally love math, mously 3d geometry or geometry in general, i even use it for my story, and caracter designs (also buildings cuz i wanna be an arhitect!)

[@_deadbirdou_4392]

I wish to be architect too! Good luck to become one, you'll do great I'm sure ❤

[@cxtt3482]

But to be fair, How would you know about the facet you like math if you never got taught it?

[@DHasty]

I've been babysitting young children since I was like 10. I worked at a home daycare (just slightly illegal) from the time I was that age. It has been over a decade since I started working with kids. I have seen the influence of unschooling, and it chills me to the bone.

[@buttercup253]

I already knew i was going to be crying laughing about this topic😭

[@funeralsnacks8052]

I was unschooled growing up and it genuinely caused so much harm and stunted so much growth in me and my younger siblings. I went to kindergarten and first grade, from then till my junior year of high school I was home/unschooled. Though my HS Diploma is homeschooled , I dropped out of junior year after one semester due to struggling and being bullied. Senior year I went to another school and barely lasted a semester and two months before my step dad made me drop out and go back to homeschooling while providing me no material or support to do that with, but nonetheless. My experience with growing up unschooled and neglected, I remember my mom teaching my brother and I basic addition and subtraction multiple times from second grade age until I was about 13-14 when she completed gave up on teaching anything to me at all. Sometimes though she’d give me and my brothers work sheets later in life, Almost always just basic math not science or history etc, tell us to do them and then never follow up so of course we wouldn’t do them. We were kids. Me and a couple of my other siblings struggled a lot with learning how to read. Hell i remember that one of my younger brothers could barely read picture books by the time he was nearly 13. I personally always struggled with focusing on reading, and re reading the same words and paragraphs, words moving or shaking as I tried to read, or reading but not retaining anything so I would get frustrated and quit. Now at the age 25, I still struggle immensely with reading and processing what I’m reading. College is something I’ve wanted to pursue for a really really long time, but I’m convinced that it won’t happen. The complete lack of an education growing up has me embarrassed and feeling helpless over it. Just thinking about what it would take to go to college makes me shut down and that makes me so mad sometimes. I deserved an education growing up, my siblings did too and so do all of the kids whose parents are unschooling them. I’m sorry but you are setting them up for failure and struggle. I can’t express how isolating growing up like that felt and still makes me feel. Thank you for talking about this subject. Your videos mean the world.

[@capellamorel]

KING LOUIS HAS BLESSED US WITH ANOTHER VIDEO! EVERYONE GET OUT ART SUPPLIES

[@carolynbrubaker1619]

One of the most common reason people give for unschooling is the bullying . Unfortunately going to school is where you learn how to deal with bullies. The thing people don't seem to realize is that bullies grow up too and you will have to deal with them in the workplace. I was bullied at home (big brother) and at school (terminal cooties). Because I had to learn to deal with that, it is almost impossible to bully me now. People try but they don't succeed. I've gotten so good at it that sometimes they don't even realize they didn't succeed. Public schools have taken a horrible beating in the last 50 years. It's taken that long to destroy the American public school system, which, believe it, or not used to be one of the best in the world. they need reform not annihilation

[@_silly_thing]

as a member of the audience i greatly appreciate you louis

[@trinity3272]

Unschooling doesn’t fix the problems with school though it just adds new ones

[@kismecrow]

As someone who was homeschooled from 1st grade-12th grade, (I’m 19 now) let me tell ya. Worst thing to ever happen to me, educational neglect is an extremely common thing with homeschooling, not everyone has had educational neglect, but very many, including me. It also affects social situations, it has become a huge problem with getting a job, I can’t function normally because I didn’t grow up around people I didn’t know for my entire life, as well as being an undiagnosed autistic person. My mom meant well, she pulled us out because I was heavily bullied in kindergarten, and it started off ok, but quickly became an educational neglect nightmare, I still struggle with things from back then. I don’t recommend homeschooling unless it’s through a program, it’s awful.

[@JellyJuli]

I did homeschooling since I was a kid and I have always felt that I wouldn’t be so behind as I am if I had just gone to public schools. I was stunted emotionally physically and educationally

[@MAAG_OFFICIAL]

2:58 “Nobody likes public school” Me who likes school and goes to public school: *sweats nervously*

[@caitlincalles1685]

I was homeschooled cuz the schools in my area are way too under funded and too many kids to teach us all effectively so my mom wanted to help boost my education. But. She only unschooled for EXTRA CURRICULUARS AND ELECTIVES. Trust me, I tried getting out of math and writing and she laughed.

[@naesenh.2162]

The crazy part is once they join public schools they’ll have terrible grades and the ACTUAL teacher will take the blame for having them falling behind 🤦

[@simple_simp.1]

As I now think about it, isn't it illegal? Taking away people's rights to receive a quality education? 🙁

[@randl7423]

Sheesh. Every time I go to a parent-teacher conference, I am stunned - *stunned* - at the breadth and depth of information, resources, thought and planning being put into my little kids' education. This is a public (i.e. regular, free) community school in Canada. We love it and are very grateful for it. There is no way in hell I could impart all that education to my children, nor would I want to. The teachers all deserve double their salaries, but they do it for not-awesome pay because they absolutely rock. I am so sorry for the kids of these narcissistic parents who are depriving them of a normal, decent education. It's honestly very depressing.

[@r0tten.b0y]

Louis may not be pregnant but he always delivers 😎

[@Punkrockpenguin2]

I like your pfp

[@r0tten.b0y]

@@Punkrockpenguin2 thank you!!

[@gummipaws]

in my country (in europe), it is actual law to attend the basic school years. we call it grades 1 to 9, so ages 6-14 (plus minus, some younger and older). if the child doesn't attend, cps will be looking into the family and likely take them away from the parents if they don't make their kids attend. honestly, these videos are making me glad that i live in a small country lol

[@shslprogrammer4454]

honestly, i thought this was how it was in the us too. i guess not?

[@SabrinaRina]

They act like kids are apps awaiting updates.

[@kirikirikiri99]

Imagine taking an unschooler to trivia night

[@talonsofart]

1:00 he missed the opportunity to quote the teacher from the incredibles “coincidence, i think not!”

[@Eli_lovessharks]

Fr

[@Sarah.p.Stewart8654]

I have PTSD from years of bullying at school and I haven’t been able to do some of the schooling I wanted to because of it so the idea that as a parent you would take away your child’s ability to go to school, to have that privilege of being able to go to school is just, ugh so aggravating

[@SenRaspberry]

Me when louis posts a school video two days before my school starts: 😮

[@Queen_Of_The_Stars]

SAME !!

[@zuwichsen]

Mine is is on the 29!

[@skz_world_domination_n]

i had my first day of school today-😭

[@Verogram]

Good luck man! I just finished my second week!

[@Golden_Eagle_Skies]

@@skz_world_domination_n but it’s Friday? Who starts school on Friday!?

[@EmmittPotter-g9r]

So my cousin was unschooled so she didn’t know math or reading, as a big sibling-like figure to her whenever she would visit we would watch movies and binge shows with closed captions on and I had her just watch the captions. On KZbin we would watch read along and I would watch as her TWELVE year old mind was finally learning how to read. Like the girl in the video, my cousin went to public school came highschool and it made me so proud to see her actually know how to do basic math and reading, of course she had trouble but eventually she got the hang of it. Remind you, my cousin is OLDER than me. So the only reason she looked up to me was because I went to public school and knew so much more, she later said that because of me she was able to graduate and she is currently in college. Sometimes I think back and wonder where she would be know if she was like these kids who most likely were not taught the things they are supposed to be.

[@chaerry_ontop]

OMG THANK GOSH YOU MADE A VIDEO ON THIS I'VE BEEN WAITING 😭🙏

[@Axelcochran2117]

I found your videos yesterday while looking for videos to watch while sewing 😭 your my new sewing youtuber, your videos are so interesting to watch and listen to while working on my projects.

[@chicken_god1st]

I played the first 3 seconds of this and my older sister came running yelling "MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE...I watch him to" and ran out of my room

[@sakamafone]

Thats so cute lol

[@3_character_minimum]

I will always remember a great line from one of my teacher. "An education doesn't begin or end with Schooling." Then there were various lines to follow... my fravorties. ..."but it [schooling] helps" ..."so pay attention" ..."find that out in your own time" ..."practice that later" ..."so listen here, to skip this later" ...

[@Cabbages-sketchbook]

30:04 “TOpO ChicO it’s pretty good 👍😃” got me 😂😂

[@One_Flew_West]

I was unschooled. It was insane, and hugely damaging. I can only imagine my parents didn't really expect me to ever grow up. It messed me up so much. P.S. Your hair is awesome.

[@Magz_stuff]

I’m literally studying rn to become a early childhood educator, and omg like for one she fails to talk to them like children. Like “pink isn’t in the rainbow idiot” like no you respond with “Yeah that’s right!” Literally trying to sound smarter then a toddler. Also, social development.. even for baby’s is SOOO IMPORTANT! Parents that are like this get me pissed of sm. And OMG the mother saying “they won’t be a doctor because they arnt exposed to that” THEN EXPOSE THEM TO THAT! THIS IS WHY SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND HAVING OTHER SOCIAL GROUPS ARE SO IMPORTANT! Literally like they arnt gonna grow as a person

[@Im-at-yo-door]

4:22 Hi, I was homeschooled during the second grade and I’m one of smartest in my classes. Didn’t struggle at all to adjust to third grade at public/normal school. I can confirm, homeschool works if your parents do it right.

[@lilgxthb]

9:47 she had to explain it in a way a 6 year old would understand. She should had used a different example bc it wasn’t the best..

[@youregreat]

I believe that was a 3yo, but still fair point

[@hoosfan29]

And she pronounced it wrong. Lol

[@caycehelderman9254]

16:25 that mom not normalizing a doctor is frightening to me. Those kids definitely get their strep throat treated with onions in their socks

[@nikicrowe2768]

26:49 as a History teacher, I thank you for this sentiment…

[@thelazydeathgod]

I was unschooled until 8th grade, and frankly, I wouldn’t wish that experience on my worst enemy. Overall, I got out lucky compared to a lot of other people in the same situation, but I have spent years struggling with the aftereffects. It's not even just the lack of knowledge, not knowing how to learn, or being left behind socially, but also the associated crippling shame and other negative emotional issues that come with being so behind. Again, I got lucky, and now I'm on track to getting masters degree, but if I had continued to be unschooled until college, I'm not sure I would even be here right now.

[@Asthmatic8ot]

HELP 6:49 JUMPSCRED ME SO BAD I VISIBLY JUMPED WHILE ANIMATING

[@eddie1278]

I teach English to non-native speakers in Asia… reading is not a natural thing that one is born with; it is something you learn. The fact that my six year old kids can read and write sentences while her kid, who is surrounded by the language, can only copy the words eggs, jar, and lions is proof of it