Unspoken Orchestral Etiquette

[@treborria4001]

The best insult I've ever gotten from a conductor was "Look at this freak. He's probably the type of guy that collects swords in his basement." I have no idea what I did to deserve that.

[@danielsjohnson]

If someone ever said that to me I would be flattered. Swords are cool.

[@charlesperez807]

My conductor insults us of "fascists" when we play out of tune and I think it is very funny.

[@applechip6748]

lol, mine calls us Russians when we don't subdivide and are going to fast!

[@obeyjuancannoli7120]

the perfect screwup Strong, like bull, but no rushing. No russian

[@ricochet4674]

what does that even mean?!

[@premierepasta1562]

0:00 It''s funny because he reads alto clef.

[@jay-3386]

Pratham Gurung Highest notes are in treble.

[@getalife2842]

Unless you're a boss ass bitch who can sightread ledger lines like a machine.

[@rachameal]

Pratham Gurung cuz im play viola too

[@delanee8568]

Oh I play bass clef

[@erikapayamps2846]

Geta Life yay I’m a boss!

[@ayeshadavis3489]

Please make this into a series. Since I'm in a school orchestra (30-45 people) it's a bit different but some of the things you said were really relatable lol. When you're being roasted by your conductor, don't say shit lmao but it's kinda funny coz the newer members usually get roasted pretty bad and it's hilarious - FR THO KEEP MAKING THESE VIDS THANKS

[@ThatViolaKid]

Lmaooo you got it

[@LFPPstudios]

+ThatViolaKid omg yesss relatable

[@Wendy-je9zf]

ayesha davis we had over 60 kids in orchestra alone. We'd have about 137 kids if both band and orchestra combined

[@akilaalarie]

My school orchestra is lame and only has like 12 people half of which can't play so I pulled a Kris Wu and left

[@jen6042]

My school Orchestra has around 20 people in a good year but my county one has around 7 seperate Orchestra groups with anything from 10 to 30 people

[@rika6108]

I'm the kind of inside player who forgets to turn the page and then stresses out and drops the music and then spends the next minutes trying to figure out which page was where while my outside partner tries to keep smiling

[@basia3173]

dude... RIP

[@charlottesweeney1063]

i alwaysss turn two pages at once- thank goodness i’m on outside this year

[@applechip6748]

oh my gosh, I have sympathy pain for your partner. I'm sorry.

[@rika6108]

I completely forgot about this comment and found it again while re-watching this video 😂

[@cube1146]

I wish we got page Turner's like the pianists get

[@ahtartersauce101]

Yes SERIES! Next video: Inside vs Outside players

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hmmmm, you're on ;)

[@emilyc.3243]

So relatable! I play in chamber orchestra at high school and as the only sophomore, there's so much stuff that I don't get and am always getting dirty looks from the upperclassmen. This was so helpful, and I haven't gotten any stink eyes for the past week.

[@nathanedades7390]

Emily C.

[@risingkhero1714]

Me too ;-;

[@fiddlermw]

hey dude, I've been playing the violin in orchestras (both as a professional and amateur) for about 32 yrs and everything you say is spot on :)

[@ThatViolaKid]

Haha awesome! I'm glad that my advice held up =)

[@ThatViolaKid]

AWWW YES! FINALLY UPLOADED ON TIME! *high five*

[@bugrayuzuguldu6455]

I'm proud of ya

[@ThatViolaKid]

THANK YOU! Feels good homie

[@uplandcandy1933]

Viola remmeber me from the q and a you where doing in costco i am the kid with the scooter

[@scotcon9876]

✋

[@ThatViolaKid]

UplandCandy YO

[@aro4457]

In a conductor class that I took my conductor said “if you get lost, just conduct 1 over and over again, then blame the viola as soon as possible”...what a great guy

[@adriepram]

As a double bass player, I've been an inside, principal, and sometimes play alone. And yep, as an inside players you have to help the outside players so their playing won't be interrupted. And outside players indeed have much more 'burden', being the 'face' of the orchestra (double or triple that for the principals lol). So yeah, it's all fun if you know your task and do it well. Playing alone is fun too, unless your part's page break is messy and it's a fast passage... cursed are pianists and their page-turners! (Just kidding, I love pianist tho) XD

[@kaycieromano2689]

PLEASE turn this into a series!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hmmm ;)

[@kaycieromano2689]

+ThatViolaKid Would it work if I said pretty please?? ;)

[@ThatViolaKid]

Kaycie Daisy Maybeeee :D

[@elizabeth.1905]

Yeees! Turn this into a series!!

[@justinfontaine3912]

ThatViolaKid PLEASE KEEP MAKING THESE!

[@belleholderness817]

Oh my god, I'm an opera singer and I had NO idea that this much went into playing in an orchestra! It makes singing in the opera chorus seem light and free spirited lol

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hehehehe yeah, it can get ridiculously complicated ugh

[@danaholmes3326]

As a professional/teacher, I will be emailing this link to all my students! Especially not punching! Ha!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Oh wow! I'm honored! Thank you!!!

[@Yehezkel82773]

I would also add that you should really only write fingerings if it's completely necessary for complex passages. Fingerings should be written in your practice part only, since it may be confusing or annoying for your stand partner to write in their personal fingerings, especially if the fingerings are wildly different from yours, or just bad. Great video! All of these are totally true. Addressing conductors as maestro is always a safe bet, if they want to be called anything else, they'll make sure to tell you after you first address them as maestro. It's like using the formal case of languages, it's always necessary at first, but the person may ask you afterwards to simply use the informal.

[@songfulmusicofsongs]

I really like the word maestro, didn't know about it. It's like when a person becomes a mangaka they are called sensei. I find it cute.

[@ScrollingKate]

I've never thought there is so much going on in orchestra! Your informative videos are the beeeesstt! thanks for keeping it real, good luck at conquering the world, homie

[@ThatViolaKid]

Thank you so much!!! I'm so glad that you enjoyed it!

[@ingridayarza]

+ThatViolaKid These things should be taught everywhere so young musicians know what is right and what isn't. They should not suppose and when you make a mistake be like "Get this guy outta here😒". So, THANKS SO MUCH DREW! Greetings from Panama ❤👋

[@ThatViolaKid]

My pleasure!!! Thanks for watching!!!

[@OrchDork7]

Omg YAS to all of this!!! I've seen a lot of this in my university orchestra. Especially the stank eye of upperclassmen to incoming freshman. 😂

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hehehe the struggle is REAL

[@AyoLSEA]

Thank you, Drew! Just about to audition for the NYU Symphony Orchestra and my experiences with three orchestras in Uganda never highlighted these (mainly because my piano teacher conducted one orchestra and my violin teacher conducted another orchestra).

[@ThatViolaKid]

My pleasure!!! Break a leg!!!

[@kfluter]

thanks for the video😊 please turn this into a series this is very helpful!!!!

[@bruceyan1672]

you should really turn this into a series

[@ThatViolaKid]

You got it!

[@thepianoplayer416]

A lot of good tips. Being a member of a local band, we have a few acceptable ways with turning pages: 1. When you have rests at the bottom of the page that runs for a few bars, usually this is not a concern. 2. When we have 2 players doing exactly the same part, we will accept 1 player playing louder to compensate the other player who would be turning the page until he/she is ready to play. It is generally preferable to have everybody playing all the required parts. 3. If there are rests on the next page shortly after the page turn, many of us would photocopy the first 2 lines of the next page and tape it to the bottom of the page so that we would be able to read up to the rest before doing a page turn. 4. If there are rests on the next page shortly after the page turn and the section you are playing looks straightforward, some of us would memorize notes on top of the next page until the rests and then do a page turn.

[@alydar2716]

I'll watch orchestras more closely now to observe their etiquette. I love the interaction between Hillary Hahn and Maestro Pavo Jarvi in her performance of the Mendelssohn Violin Concerto..... ultimate respect and obvious collaborative mindfulness. Maybe one day you'll post about etiquette as a soloist with a major orchestra, interaction with the conductor and the rest of the orchestra? Best wishes to you!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Maybe, though I'm not sure it'll be from personal experience since I'm not a soloist hehe =)

[@jakedahms6005]

someone needs to come up with an alto clef pun asap

[@lydiaboyle1698]

Jake D T Dahms You askin' for treble, it's bassically impossible... alto I can still try

[@jakedahms6005]

bless you child

[@lydiaboyle1698]

Jake D T Dahms You are welcome

[@miatortelllini4049]

Jake D T Dahms Violas play a good alto-native clef

[@ncorva]

Very nice! It is amazing how being a true professional depends not only on your playign but also knowing these small things.

[@KtangMC]

Sorry for the uneducated question, but what do you mean by "Inside players" and "Outside Players"?

[@jamaicanpianistcomposer]

The sections are staged in rows of two outside players are basically the chair closer to the audience (end of stage) and the inside players are beside them. :::::: (Take these dots for example the bottom dots are "outside" and the top dots are "inside"). Hope i helped.

[@applechip6748]

Outside players are the closer stand partner to the audience, and inside player is the one next to them.

[@derycktrahair8108]

Thank you. This is NOT taught by the average teacher. Usually we have had to work it out on the job.

[@mayasuarez549]

Very informational. As the viola section leader, I never realized these specific responsibilities!

[@jen6042]

Thanks! I'm playing in an orchestra at a higher level to the one I'm playing in currently in a few weeks and found his really helpful. Thanks mate.

[@RizwanJaganiViolist]

Number three is shocking because my conductor when I was co-principal for three years encouraged the students to ask questions and the principals were always okay with that. I guess it just depends.

[@ThatViolaKid]

It does depend! :) The culture of the organization plays a big part in the protocol :)

[@baileytincher4405]

Hey, loving the videos. I'm going into my senior year of high school, but I'm going to be joining my schools orchestra next year. I've been learning with a teacher for the past 6 months, but I was wondering if you could give me some tips on what to expect and how to fit in. going to be quite an odd man out with everyone having come from grade school orchestra experience and what not. thanks.

[@ThatViolaKid]

Trust me, there's nothing you need to know that you don't already know! School orchestra is for learning, and everyone there will be in a similar learning position as you! Get excited to play music with other people!!!

[@baileylynn8005]

I can't believe you were in Columbia and I didn't know!!!!! I live so close

[@ThatViolaKid]

I can't believe you didn't know either!! I was there for almost 2 months!!! =O

[@crescentepereze.8462]

Thanks Drew!! I just got into a orchrestra and now i know the things that I don't have to do. ;)

[@ThatViolaKid]

Good!!! I'm glad! You're gonna have a blast!

[@crescentepereze.8462]

+ThatViolaKid Thanks! :) 🎻

[@WLotus]

I've never played in an orchestra. That was fascinating!

[@ThatViolaKid]

I'm glad you got a kick out of it!!!

[@MarsLos10]

Hey, here's my problem; I have to play the piano for a quarteto of violins and as an accompany instrument, my melody is different than theirs (I actually play the melody of the second violins). When I play alone I am very comfortable and perform very well, but in rehearsals I mess up very easily. The main melody really confuses me! What should I do?

[@applechip6748]

how did it go?

[@MarsLos10]

the perfect screwup thanks for asking! I was very nervous when we were performing, but I played a little better than on rehearsals. The only mistake I made was actually because of my shaky fingers, a little F instead of F#, whoops 😆 at least I kept the rhythm steady :)

[@bedrichsmetana4777]

Referring to #1, In my orchestra (Youth) The person whose music folder is on the stand is the one the writes the notes, since it’s their music.

[@fishkeepercole2464]

have you ever done a viola and trumpet duet? it is sooo much fun and it sounds great. plz do it for a video!

[@ThatViolaKid]

I didn't know they wrote duets for viola and trumpet!

[@fishkeepercole2464]

They don't. Me and my friend picked one of my easy songs and we wrote an accompaniment for my friend. That's where the fun comes from.

[@Monica-rv7go]

I think the reason for tip number 2 is the fact that the concertmaster and the conductor are the top 2 power controllers of an orchestra but in many cases if the conductor is not a violinist, the concertmaster would make the decision, which I am not really sure why because professionals audition for a chair and the first chair isn't necessarily better than the rest, they get some famousness, but in a professional orchestra, everyone is the best. But, yes in the case of a non-violin conductor, and the possibility of 20 violinists arguing, it is standard for the concertmaster to take on the role of decisions, this is probably good because when everyone is really good, in the end, someone has to make the decision, so it is standard for the person at the front to do so. Maybe the reason for passing the question up is for the concertmaster to decide whether the question is good enough to ask the conductor or answer it themself??

[@CadaverQT]

Great video!! I had a (not relevant) question: what shoulder rest do you suggest? Mine falls off or even gets displaced while I'm playing. It was that way with my Kun and now with the Everest. Have you tried Bon Musica?

[@CadaverQT]

I have a 16.5 viola, if it matters

[@ThatViolaKid]

I haven't! I just use a rest called Hox. Super generic

[@annikamoser24]

MAESTRO KIRK IS A SAVAGE!! All of these rules apply to the high school orchestra he conducts too!! Haha glad you got to work with him

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hehehehe ;) I wasn't about him! What are you talking about??? ;)

[@annikamoser24]

+ThatViolaKid OF COURSE you weren't!! 😂😜

[@sabrinasheffer5581]

I've been playing the viola for 5 years now and I'm looking for another viola? Something better than a beginners one... recommendation?

[@ThatViolaKid]

Visit your local music shop and try some instruments out! If you have any luthiers in the area, I would definitely start there!

[@Nightmar1500]

i need to send this to one of my old stand partners lol

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hahahaha do ittttt

[@Nightmar1500]

+ThatViolaKid my friend, for some reason, has a very hard time turning pages. I should actually send it to my orchestra teacher (conductor) to show on the first day of orchestra, it might actually make orchestra more effective (talking problems).

[@ThatViolaKid]

Ooo that'd be cool! Please do!

[@mistyarcher7443]

so that's why my private instructor didn't show up lol. he was playing in the symphony with you

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hehehe oops

[@sofie.a3849]

Because I've been both an inside player and an outside player, I can honestly say inside players are so underappreciated liKE THEY DO MOST OF THE WORK FEED THEM COOKIES

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hahahaha so truee

[@brasschick4214]

Being a brass player - The mysteries of string section and bowing etiquette Woah! 😲

[@kiaraeijo]

That's the same with us wind players when we ask the conductor about articulations. :) I've had very condescending conductors in the past. What do you do when your conductor is not communicating with you correctly?

[@ThatViolaKid]

Just do your best haha. If they aren't communicating effectively, that's their fault. They have one job--communicate effectively haha

[@jaclynvazquez2649]

Hi thank you so much for posting this very informative video I was wondering where you got that amazing hat though?

[@ThatViolaKid]

It's part of my personal merchandise that I'm building up :)

[@marioescabi2529]

I've like never been in an orchestra so I literally no both. but I'm interested in joining

[@ThatViolaKid]

Well, I hope this will be useful to you in the future!!! :)

[@LFPPstudios]

Where the stream squad at? Also this notification made me soooo happy today haha

[@ThatViolaKid]

Aww I'm so glad!!! =D

[@courtneybrown4385]

I recently started playing the alto saxophone, and I have been told MULTIPLE times by teacher directors etc, that I NEED to have private lessons. I am the 1st chair in my school and I can not afford private lessons. they are expensive. and my parents say if I want them I need to pay for them myself. are there any tips that you have for someone that can not currently take private lessons. is there any books that I could purchase at the music store that could help? is there any online lessons that are free or affordable? did you take private lessons as a kid? (sorry, SO MANY QUESTIONS!) thanks though 😆😄😜

[@ThatViolaKid]

Private lessons are essential. Essential!!!! Is there a way you can find a part-time job to pay for the lessons? I was actually a part of a program that helped African Americans get lessons for free, so that's who I was able to afford them with a single mother

[@inkandsoap4203]

I don't even play orchestral instruments but I love this all the same. +1 sub

[@christiansegura5503]

Hey drew! I am in a pickle. So this upcoming year I will be a sophomore and I will be 2nd chair Viola. Also In my very small orchestra I'm the only one who plays both Viola and violin. And Since I'm the only one in my grade in orchestra. When I'm a senior I'll be the only senior. And everyone says I should switch to violin and be concertmaster senior year. There's still plenty of time but I'm not sure wether to be principle Viola of concertmaster senior year😫 sorry if my question is confusing

[@ThatViolaKid]

I would stick with the instrument that you enjoy the most! Don't let other people pressure you

[@naomihill625]

Informative, great vid!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Thank you!!!!

[@emmaplays4538]

god damn... here in concert band, there's less rules but only playing the music right and getting the right positions/valves/buttons/partcials etc. im kinda glad i picked a trombone instead of a cello.

[@jamaicanpianistcomposer]

Well as a pianist i will say this video WAS STRESSFUL!! MY GOD the ego of it all! wow it stressed me out!

[@Guuzaka]

Interesting information.

[@ThatViolaKid]

Thank you!!!

[@faithymae8785]

i love the fact that i found a chanel that plays viola

[@KM-px8cs]

Thankyou for the insight!!

[@justinfontaine3912]

I love these videos! Keep them coming :)

[@ThatViolaKid]

So happy you're enjoying them!

[@Fi2pianist]

#5 and #8 are totally new to me haha thanks a lot!

[@thehamsterplanet8105]

Helpful!!

[@savannahrae2315]

This was very helpful, thank you! :D

[@ThatViolaKid]

I'm so glad!!!

[@DrDeath-my5nn]

This would be such an awesome series! Tips and tricks are ALWAYS welcomed omg #themusicianstruggleisreal

[@ThatViolaKid]

You've got it!! :)

[@brookemickelson3559]

Good tips but I already knew these! I'm in college and we follow most of these in our orchestra. Even in the community orchestra. The one that most amateur groups neglect is section players speaking to the conductor directly. Many of us know it's a rule, but we don't implement it in our rehearsals. Although I still get a bit annoyed when someone interrupts rehearsal to ask the conductor a very useless question.

[@shevaschwartz9959]

you should do an #askTVK but more like advice, yenno? i need some practicing n orchestra advice n stuff!!!

[@shirleyw6539]

Loved this. I'm a singer and could have used this info DECADES ago. I feel like an idiot.

[@naeelle2116]

Omg, this has made so much more nervous!!! I'm going to be principal next year in Youth Symphony, but we're not really "professional" lol!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Don't be nervous! Just be prepared!!!

[@MrLilYonsan]

Hey dude, when you were playing in Columbia MO, did you get a chance to meet with Yennifer? How is she/her violin?

[@savannah.gudrun]

BLESS YOU!!!!! HEH YOU TOTALLY SHOULD MAKE MORE TIPS AND TRICKS VIDEOS ^_^

[@ThatViolaKid]

Okay!!! I'll see what I can come up with :D

[@savannah.gudrun]

yeee

[@nataliatheweirdo]

#2, i finally get that now xD in my school orchestra, if they ask a question, theres no stink eyes of whatever but all the heads turn to the person asking the question and stay there for about a minute 😂

[@l.5584]

Oh my glob! I love that hat!

[@stevenchristophersen7673]

I really like this!!!!! Now, out of curiosity, do you think you could either do another video or maybe go over any of these kinds of Etiquette tips for wind players? I know you're a string player and all, but anything you could do would be insanely helpful. Also, how did you like playing with the Missouri Symphony?!?! That sounds like it would have been so awesome!!!

[@Mary-en4mz]

Yo what wind instrument do you play? I'm clarinet

[@stevenchristophersen7673]

Same!!!! Well, I main clarinet anyways... XD

[@Mary-en4mz]

+Steven Christophersen cool!!!!!!! It seems like u play other instruments too. What other instruments? Sorry but I'm just so interested to know!!!! I don't know why! Guess cuz I finally found another clarinet player! XD

[@stevenchristophersen7673]

LOL! We're clarinet buddies! I play like the rest of the clarinet family, tenor and soprano sax, piano, and harp!

[@ThatViolaKid]

I'll have to ask some of my wind buddies for help on this one--I'll see what I can do!

[@shelleygreenwood5614]

this is AWESOME!! Even though we are brass, all of your tips apply. My daughter is in the St. Louis Symphony Youth Orchestra (not far from Columbia, MO) and she has learned alot about this etiquette. Thank you for emphasizing the issues of respect to the conductor, principal players, and working as a team player. Also, next time you are near St Louis, MO please stop by Powell Symphony Hall - home of both the St Louis Symphony Orchestra and the StL Symphony Youth Orchestra www.stlouissymphonyorchestra.com :)

[@shelleygreenwood5614]

that is actually www.stlsymphony.org :D

[@ThatViolaKid]

I definitely will!!! =D

[@jazzdaddycriticisms7049]

Finally. A violist blogger.

[@AbbySitton]

Are there any unspoken rules about only outside players can write stuff in, only write in it if it's your music, that kind of stuff? Because at an orchestra came I was at I was an inside player ans my stand partner didn't like it when I wrote in her music.

[@ThatViolaKid]

I think that person was just weird. Most of the time, you're supposed to write in the conductor's specific instructions. Anyone who doesn't want to do that should just leave haha

[@theflutecorner8618]

Boy, life of a string player is so complicated! Piccolo players just need to stay in tune. And enter at the right spot. And, maybe NOT stop in the middle of their solo to write in an alternative fingering (don't ask me how I know that one, haha. It can get really embarrassing. And do not try to talk back and explain what you were doing. Just smile, nod and NEVER do it again) Another thing, don't stand up and try walking off the stage while the audience is still clapping regardless of how badly you want out of that building. 😂 Should be obvious. Also, if it's a pops concert, and you are sitting right next to the trap set, can't hear other instruments you are supposed to play in unison or yourself (on piccolo!) in the high register, walk off the stage with a horrible migraine, don't wait to tell your principal until the end of the last dress rehearsal. While things CAN be done to help take the edge off if you bring it up early enough, complaining about it 10 minutes before the show will get people upset with you, and that's it. The same applies to stage lights. It's always a problem due to the location of some of the players, and should be dealt with EARLY on. If you miss your entrance because you can't see the music, it's on you.

[@collins8958]

Loved this video!

[@ThatViolaKid]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@heyitstay9506]

Can you do a video on tips for sending in audio auditions? I'm going to be auditioning to be in my states All-State orchestra and we have to send in an audio recording. Also thank you for making these videos I love them and it's nice to see a violist youtuber. That's very rare it's almost all Violin

[@ThatViolaKid]

Tips for audio auditions....hmmmm ok!

[@Monica-rv7go]

Wait, on Number 7, do you adress conductors as maestro and their last name, or just maestro?

[@aylakm6652]

"cries" I MISSED THE COLUMBIA PERFORMANCE! I had a lesson that day and my teacher didnt show up because he is in that symphony (Dustin Freida, do you know him?).

[@carolineneumann3523]

Oh my gosh I love your hat! Where did you get it?!

[@benfreedman7901]

as someone who has literally never been an outside player I can completely relate to the problem with page turns. And the thing is I still suck at turning pages. 😱😂 I'm really liking these videos btw! I would love to see one a about concert anxiety/messing up during a concert.

[@ThatViolaKid]

I already made a video about Performance Anxiety man! I'll look into making another one though

[@benfreedman7901]

+ThatViolaKid thanks for the consideration! maybe go over things you didn't in your last video like how to combat the infamous shaky bow, how to recover from screw ups in concerts,and maybe even tell funny concert stories.

[@mkelly7617]

I've seen a inside forget to turn the page and the outside had to stop playing to turn it, everyone was just like are you kidding me. He even writes page turn on the music and he still forgets.

[@ashplummer3921]

Can anyone explain the inside and outside player thing? Is this a string thing, or am I just an uneducated bassoonist?

[@ashplummer3921]

+Jyxa A. mmkay awesome thanks

[@ThatViolaKid]

Thanks for the assist homie!!!

[@michaelbenoit9240]

This is why I don't want to be a full time professional.

[@anitawilliams6292]

every music teacher should show this to new students, especially incoming freshman.....as a section lead it drives me crazy when new students go past me for silly questions i could have answered without disrupting the flow of rehearsal

[@ThatViolaKid]

Agree :)

[@jordanthompson8800]

I live in Columbia Missouri!! There is a good chance that I could've heard you play! Did you perform at Jesse Hall, or the Missouri Theater?

[@ThatViolaKid]

Yeah, I performed at Missouri Theater!

[@taekwondishawonita267]

agreed, we need more violists! I'm a violinist myself but it's so cliche and half the people that start lessons never stick with them.

[@ThatViolaKid]

So trueee

[@TheMaestro2005]

Good job man this is Dont'e Davis from Atlanta Imma try to catch you in November at spivey!

[@DarkLeprechaun89]

Saw this shared by a friend from my hometown! Keep it goinnnnn

[@ThatViolaKid]

Oh wow, now way dude! xD

[@polarisursula3745]

This is great to know, I'm auditioning soon for NEC's youth orchestra... don't want to piss people off. Also, can you make a guide to conservatory and how not to piss people off there? Thanks :D +1 subscriber to you!

[@ericklora7340]

What if you don't have a standpartner? Can you do whatever the heck you want?

[@AbbySitton]

You do it all. I have to do it all in my youth orchestra.

[@ericklora7340]

+Abby Sitton Sorry abby

[@AbbySitton]

It's fine.

[@skylerclyne6542]

ERICK LORA I play double bass and have never had a stand partner in my little school's orchestra

[@slavichwalker9856]

whats inside and outside seating ik one is on the left of the stand and one is to the right but i assume outside is to the right

[@jasminewhitehead1752]

Sooo is a principal player like a first chair or ?? I’m a violaist and I’ve never heard the word or anything.

[@annieberkowitz7685]

This video saved my life❤️❤️

[@ingridayarza]

samee

[@ThatViolaKid]

Hehehe :)

[@annieberkowitz7685]

+ThatViolaKid AAHHHH U REPLIED I love our videos soooooo much you are really talented

[@pink2nt47]

You can stop playing during a run through if you're a string player 😉 as principal clarinet, I shouldn't stop playing lol, unless of course it's in a tutti/non-soloistic section

[@ThatViolaKid]

Well, of course! But I don't imagine that you have many page turns during major solos. Editors would get NAILED for allowing that haha

[@klimentmilanov]

wait, I thought the people on the outside turn the pages (like 2nd chair, 4th, 6th)?

[@talulahsafir]

those are referred to as inside players

[@ThatViolaKid]

Yeah those are the inside players man. Outside players are the odd numbers because they're closest to the audience

[@klimentmilanov]

Ohhhh ok well that'll take some time to get used to, thanks!

[@thechangster7928]

do you have violafest here you live?

[@jayroviapree2231]

omg how did i not find this channel?

[@jeremytarter5167]

Do tip number 7 apply to a school orchestra cause my orchestra teacher can sometimes be a pain

[@ThatViolaKid]

Yes it does. Don't assault people dude