The War On Disinformation ft. Habitual Linecrosser & Ryan McBeth | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 174

[@Dab3rz]

“I’m not racist but I got a joke your gonna love” such a great line

[@garrettobrien5197]

Any sentence that starts with “I’m not racist but” is usually followed by the most racist shit on the planet. But it’s funny asf

[@FUnzzies1]

@@garrettobrien5197 I'm not racist but no one asked

[@MiroslavMiroljubic]

​​@@FUnzzies1 I'm not racist but no one asked about your opinion.

[@FUnzzies1]

@@MiroslavMiroljubic cringe

[@PastramiStaven]

@@FUnzzies1 I am racist but no one asked.

[@mysteryshrimp]

Snorting Old Bay with no change in expression and then a take to the camera "I'm from Maryland" is the most Maryland anyone has ever been.

[@banditbro25]

As someone born and raised in Maryland, I agree. Lol

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

Poor guys.....Yankees call you southern and southerners call you Yankees. Lincoln did a number on em even before us.

[@nathanfranklin2115]

That is the most amazing thing I've seen on the internet

[@TheGhostryder88]

The dopest shyt I’ve seen on y’all pod so far!

[@Djrealfake]

The subtle rift of a solo played by the band clutch in the background.

[@HortonSalm]

"We got demonetized" "Was it the slurs or the government secrets" Probably my favorite Nick line so far, and that's saying something.

[@mine4things]

Wojtek was peak Polish history. He was officially enlisted as a soldier, he wrestled with his comrades, he liked drinking beer and he supposedly helped carry heavy shit like boxes of ammunition. Definitely one of the greatest animals to help during the wars

[@CrysResan]

He also liked cigarettes. IIRC his former squad would throw him packs after the war when they put him into a zoo and it aggravated the zookeepers a great deal.

[@MortalWombat047]

Didn't polish soldiers who served with him jump into his cage and give him beer and shit

[@Axolotl6665]

Wasnt it a bear

[@Axolotl6665]

Nvm i answered my question

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Cool as Wojtek was, the Piorun charging at the Bismarck screaming "I AM A POLE" and playing their national anthem abd somehow never getting hit is pretty badass

[@Sdpartscenter]

Habitual Linecrosser: "I'm 100% convinced the NAVY can shoot down the SR-71." Lockheed Martin (while finishing assembly of their SR-72): "And so, I took that personally."

[@thomasbolman375]

Just stop and think about what you know The Navy can do. Now make it two generations more effective and you have an idea about what they can really do. If that doesn't scare you, nothing will except what The Air Force or Space Force has held back from public knowledge.

[@ericcarlson6815]

​@@thomasbolman375 The Marines are still just angry monkeys with boomsticks but are arguably the most terrifying thing to come across

[@thomasbolman375]

@@ericcarlson6815 That the catch. You face the Marines. If The Navy decides to delete you there might be a noise and a bright flash. Maybe.

[@ericcarlson6815]

@@thomasbolman375 yeah fair enough, it sounds almost peaceful that way if it weren't such a scary thought.

[@KennethNelson-fi2wz]

It's cheap too!!! surprisingly enough. It's a 2000lb JDAM tucked in a stealth bomber. Yes, America, we be coming up with shit!!

[@captaincerealbox4575]

The Russian Badger, popmedic and Mike Rowe would be great guests on the podcast

[@bbl4st3edd69]

BAJHUR PLEAZE

[@infidel1322]

I agree!!

[@jasonoconnor8337]

Mike Rowe please

[@Crazy_Broke_Asian]

Popomedic and donut doing 2 hours on policing would be dope

[@autr3553]

Cola medic

[@HeeroYuy01W]

"100% sure convinced that the modern US Navy can smoke a SR-71 Blackbird." That is a terrifying thought of the day.

[@TheHaiko117]

Tbf, some nations came close back in the day, i am not surprised a few nations would succeed today

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

@@TheHaiko117 I mean missile interceptors overall got a lot better, and a lot faster The thing with the SR-71 is that missiles back then could already exceed its cruise speed, just would not be able to keep that up for the needed range and altitude to actually take the thing down, especially since the SR-71 also used its much more powerful sensors to do recon from way out of the effective range of surface missiles too many modern missiles have the capabilities to reach one far easier and more importantly far better sensors to track the SR-71 at the kind of ranges we are talking about here. For example it does not matter how fast or high you get when Aegis can put an entire half of the planet on lockdown if it wants to, and since its a system tuned to also intercept ballistic missiles in their terminal stage you can be sure that it can intercept an SR-71 moving comparatively slower, if it gets too close to any of the launch assets of which there are plenty. That is tho a bit of yet another case of NATO going ballistic on defense tech to seemingly close a gap they had with Russia/China which once again just happened to be made up. It just keeps happening

[@quentinking4351]

Explains why we're building the SR-72

[@willythemailboy2]

Most modern missile systems could hit an SR-71 with the right engagement geometry. Unless the unclassified performance specs are wildly off some Patriot variants could hit one, let alone something like an SM-3. The problem as always is cross range distance. If the SR-71 makes the mistake of flying directly toward either an Aegis ship or a Patriot battery, neither speed nor altitude is going to save it because the plane is flying INTO the missile rather than trying to chase it - with a relative closing velocity of Mach 6+.

[@LeBozo2935]

@@mobiuscoreindustriesholy college essay! tldr?

[@matthewgarland4853]

Ryan’s moto should be “ I didn’t commit the murder. I just loaded the gun.”

[@thegewehrmann8646]

More like, "I told him where the guy was, where to aim, and when would be a good time to do it, but I didn't kill him."

[@spartanonxy]

I like to imagine Ryan does the "go do a crime" meme to the CIA and military when handing off information.

[@delta.alpha.novmbr8802]

“You’re gay” the second time was beautiful

[@bradleyratliff7852]

The second "You're gay" was crisp

[@ericworten3701]

I almost laughed till I cried

[@justinhancock235]

I was lifting weights and had to stop. Tremendous line.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

The first "you're gay" was great, but the second "you're gay" was the ultimate punchline.

[@mammoth157]

I'm at work listening to this and had to cover my mouth so everyone couldn't hear me cackling.

[@broodhunter21]

Nic saying we can't figure this out till somebody goes to court" immediately reminded me of "It's never a war crime the first time."

[@JesseJamesgauthier24]

Right after Ethan said, "Canada,do Canada things,"😂😂😂😂I'm Canadian, so it's just that much funnier.

[@isaachousley325]

​@raven-jamesellic5194 for all we know, poland may be already doing it under the table...

[@JesseJamesgauthier24]

@isaachousley325 true wouldn't want to get on the bad side of Poland.

[@Grimbear13]

That was my first thought too

[@ArcticWarrior2020]

Can y'all poor one for a fallen brother today? We just lost another brother to suicide this morning, and it's hitting me hard. SSG Mangum, rest easy brother!

[@ScottLovenberg]

I've got one last beer in the house today. Cracking it off for your homie. I'm looking at two pictures on my mirror of friends that logged themselves out. Gone but never forgotten. Ethan Aubrey Lowe :: September 28, 1988 - September 12, 2004 Samuel David Crismon :: March 1, 1986 - January 10, 2013

[@heathadams1274]

I got you brother. I'm sorry for your loss, but I hope he is in a much better place now with no pain.

[@raven644]

I got half a bottle of Canadian club that was bottled in 56. I'll pour out three fingers for absent companions.

[@eduardosc3434]

Imma go graba beer for you homie.

[@AntonAdelson]

I lost my fiancee recently. She fell off a tree. *hug* I have nothing else to say. Just try not to be alone, I guess. 💜

[@edwardsummey8843]

In 1996, I was in an FA unit in Bosnia. We were out in a field away from a base. It was around sunset and our gun bunnies were doing gun maintenance, so the whole platoon had their ducks in the air (tubes pointed at max elevation). 4 CH-47 Chinooks flew overhead. As they flew over our position, all 4 popped flares and flew off. We thought “that was weird,” and went on with life. They must have seen us in the limited light away from any bases and thought we were a AAA unit. About 10pm, we are wrapping up and getting ready for bunk down, full light discipline in effect. I was standing in the dark on a road smoking a cigarette and could hear a helicopter hovering close to me over the road. I could not see him, but I knew he could see me, and (from the sound of the rotors) it sounded like an Apache. So, I just took a drag of my cigarette and waved at him. About 90 seconds later, the copter flew off.

[@fireantfury2539]

Your story's mood: "Hmmm that air blender smells a little spicy. Maybe I should make friends with it before it turns me into a meat smoothie"

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

Thank you for your service

[@allanmonroe692]

I was at Camp Dobol in '97.

[@davecrupel2817]

I wonder if there's any kind of code gestures for people in your position, that those pilots can see with their IRs, and know for sure "that fren. No shoot."

[@edwardsummey8843]

@@davecrupel2817 In 1996, involving a different unit? Maybe for the Secret Squirrels, but not us normal grunts. All I could think of to do was act completely unafraid and friendly. Very, very friendly.

[@UncleSamsDeplorable]

"And if youre a bad guy, See you soon" with a smile is menacing

[@rjcoady21]

As a human your choice in life is tactical or strategic. Welcome to the internet.

[@fireantfury2539]

​@@rjcoady21 well then there's this whole group combined... they're tactically strategic at times and when they're not, they strategically tactical 😂 you have everything short of a pilot and ship captian here

[@cathbadh1320]

Ryan: I"m stone cold sober Also Ryan: Time to siiiiiiiiinnnnngggggg!

[@torkilsd]

By the end of the cadence i was rather sure next he starts to sing "Napalm sticks to Kids"

[@TheNewms90]

He got more and more bloodthirsty with his takes the more that bottle got lower. Loved it lol, dude is def a character.

[@Daniel.Liddicoat]

Neva give up tha will to live!!

[@Rusty.Shackleford1098]

“I’m not racist but I’ve got a joke your going to love.” Human recourse “so I hear your a bit of a jokester in the office…”

[@PermanentlyTemporary]

I'm pretty sure she just hands out bottles of whiskey in the hopes they'll pass out before they finish the idea.

[@DrunkguyFawkes4]

You know your joke was hilarious when HR wants to hear it

[@KornPop96]

"How are elevators and BLACK dudes different?" 😂

[@PermanentlyTemporary]

​@@KornPop96 There's a lot of ways this could go. I'm gonna be nice and not bring up "drug use to get high"

[@KornPop96]

@@PermanentlyTemporary sorry, that is incorrect. The correct answer is elevators know how to raise families.

[@ruralandroid4984]

Brandon fighting on the hill of free speech got my respect. It's easy to compromise ideals when you're talking with a cool dude you've just spent the last couple hours getting along with

[@antonnjames4626]

Respect for the defence of free speech, but can you consider a foreign adversary in wartime utilising a bot farm to manipulate social media to achieve a strategic or tactical goal free speech? In wartime, this is essentially just enemy propaganda veiled in a couple of layers of plausible deniability. Adversary government division performing wartime propaganda duties - valid target? Not for smoking individual propagandists houses, but centralised facilities (server farms, organisational hubs, etc)? Propagandists can be replaced, infrastructure less quickly. Also, I disagree with the kinetic focus. Any appropriate attack vector would work. Non-destructive approaches (e.g. cyber) might be better in some cases. Feel like McBeth gets a little maniacal and too far into his supervillain persona when discussing this so the practical impact is lost.

[@LoreTunderin]

Yeah, I think they were both talking about different things without realizing it. Brandon was looking at it from the perspective of individual freedoms and the potential for abusing that kind of power, whereas Ryan was referring to calculated, inciting words coming from a foreign state actor that's being passed off as organic domestic opinions and discourse for the purpose of weakening the country or damaging its national security by convincing gullible people to do unwittingly do their bidding. Ryan didn't really explain himself well after all that whiskey, but a couple key points that show his intentions kind of got glossed over in the moment: he was talking about targeting enemy state actors who were sponsoring and orchestrating these campaigns, or the infrastructure they use to conduct them- he wasn't talking about targeting the gullible protestors who were duped by bot accounts controlled by a foreign psyop campaign. People have the right to speak freely, but AI chat bots pushing false narratives enjoy no such protection. Nor does a foreign entity that pushes verifiably false information they've carefully curated to sow dissent and division among the populace and undermine the country's strength and democracy. A citizen saying something hateful or inciting of their own accord can run afoul of the law, but they'll ultimately face the consequences of their actions and have their day in court to argue their innocence. On the other hand, foreign state actors continue to act with impunity as they actively wage psychological warfare campaigns on social media. They're free to continue manipulating, radicalizing, demoralizing and inciting harmful actions using anonymous, inauthentic accounts controlled from the other side of the world where the US has no jurisdiction to act. The question of what defines a nation as an enemy is a tough one to answer, which Ryan admitted when he said he just finds them, it's up their lawyers and the people approving kinetic action to decide. A simpler way to figure it out in meantime might be to I just take foreign leaders at face value when they themselves or their state controlled communications tell their own citizens they're at war with the US. Putin has been crying wolf for years now, swearing to his people that they're at war with the United States and the West. At what point do we start to believe him and act accordingly? He's relying on a loophole to keep him safe, as he knows he can wage as much informational, cyber, and psychological warfare as he wants on the west and we have no real answer for it as long as he has plausible deniability or a constructed narrative to justify his actions. He knows he'd get his shit stomped in a conventional war, so he'll never go kinetic or openly declare war on the west, but that doesn't mean he's not on the offensive. If he wants to be so adamant with his people that Russia is at war with the US, and openly admit to conducting disinformation and psychological warfare campaigns against the US like he did after the DOJ indictments were released, then I think it's fair game to respond in kind. The only real options available are to further limit personal freedoms to hopefully catch such operations in the future, or to directly attack and destroy the weapon itself that's being used on US citizens. I'd rather give Ukraine some ATACMS and the coordinates of the data centers used by the troll farms, than give up even more personal freedoms under the guise of making us safer.

[@ThatValorguy]

@@LoreTunderindude you gotta learn how to BLUF your comment

[@LordViktor299]

@@LoreTunderin I want to know you better man. I know that sounds weird but I think we could have a great conversation. Keep on making long winded explanations.

[@chrisedwards6573]

@@LoreTunderin The difference between an individual practicing their first amendment rights and a 'foreign state actor' murder target for Ryan McBeth is the current government or their corporate masters' opinions about what you're saying. We live in a world where the FBI pays visits to parents who say something that particular local schoolboards don't like, or pro-life protestors at home with their families, or who make memes on the internet. The idea that we'd trust such people with the power to murder us over 'misinformation' is treasonous. You think Ryan is talking about people in a room with 5000 smartphones pretending to be 50 accounts each talking about how Ukraine is losing and should give up, but that's now how this would be used and Ryan knows that. This would be used on people who make memes that the current party in power don't like. Gavin Newsom just tried to make it illegal to make memes in California. It's absurd to think Ryan hasn't thought the implications of that power through. He just doesn't care. You'll be on the end of those bombs and Ryan will be pointing out how you were posting disinformation.

[@TheTuftyOne]

"Hitler failed the trust fall...." I laughed out loud at that!!! Thank you for brightening my day!

[@Deridus]

That was a wonderful line. Warching him clean off HLC was glorious.

[@Tagawichin]

Resisting the urge to fast forward to see what Ryan's super power will be.

[@Juiceontheloose76]

Disinformation and mouthpiece for the ukropigs

[@Sweetness71775]

Taking Trilateral dong without instantly moaning is my guess.

[@CountryAndProud]

Just saw it, freaking hilarious

[@jesusrojas6427]

@@CountryAndProudtoo true to true!😂😂

[@ratgobbler]

Top 10 joke in Unsub history.

[@default5900]

I love listening to HLC and Nick go on tism rants, whether it's military equipment or military history. They're both so good at explaining things in a way that makes sense.

[@heathadams1274]

Completely agree! Both of their tisms are a blast to listen to!

[@cheesegrater..]

Habitual Linecrosser & Ryan McBeth were amazing guest. "i do not like my neighbour so i take landmine and put it in front of his house"

[@123demonskill]

The upgraded expendables. Machine gun man, missile man, infantry man, medic man, hacker. This should be a movie.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

This sounds like a setup for a GTA heist.

[@JainZar1]

Do you mean the deplorables?

[@DesertFernweh]

The Autisable?

[@Orator25168]

Ryan’s also a former AT man

[@0Sirk0]

"The Tism-Ables"

[@phillipholland92]

The second hardest line ever told on this podcast- "that's up to their lawyers"

[@shahnxaoc7749]

What's the first hardest?

[@ethansmith9065]

​@@shahnxaoc7749 the guy that told Nic he had killed 13 people, so he wasnt worried about the language in the TFE videos

[@jeremiahmaddox7755]

Really? Russia, Iran, China have lawyers to be concerned with? This dude tips his fedora before licking the boot.

[@m2hmghb]

@@jeremiahmaddox7755 The international rules of warfare.

[@adarkwind4712]

​@jeremiahmaddox7755 welcome to the real world.

[@ellerykingston1077]

Macbeth reminds me of a quote from C.S.Lewis. "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

[@bilson7523]

The problem with social justice movements.

[@Sweetness71775]

And yet Ryan is LARPing as an omnipotent moral busybody. Irony.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Corporate loafers taste no better than government boots

[@reverendrico5631]

@@Matt-xc6spbut unlike the state occasionaly corporate let the foot up to long enough to shine their shoes.

[@xman5393]

Anyone who disagrees with Lying McBeth is a "Russian asset".

[@windsoboreas6073]

With Brandon's and Ryan's debate toward the end, what worries me is when someone in our government decides that a US citizen is a foreign actor and, using the same logic Ryan laid out, justifies targeting that citizen. In the last eight years, I've seen several sitting congressmen and even the very president call everyday citizens "Russian bots." How much easier would it be for them to make the leap to removal of a citizen when there is a logical step from "destroy foreign effector" to "destroy foreign effect?"

[@omarcarrero3623]

Is someone in our government wanted to do thatthey can already say he is a spy/traitor

[@hestan723]

Ryan isn't talking about simple citizens but entire complex dedicated to spreading disinformation, which are not hard to identify We can already list a number of bots account that spread the message at the same time every time. We don't need to revive the patriot act for that, those people are showing up themselves. A few analyst finding and linking those accounts will do the job All you need to do after that is find where they are (which Ryan demonstrated as possible) and pick which way you want that problem removed

[@davecrupel2817]

Exactly. That is a very dangerous precedent to set, and realm to delve in.

[@Justanobserver72]

Kind of like someone saying I just put the hit out I didn’t do the assassinating.

[@DerAlleinTiger]

Yeah, with how quick people are to claim someone is a "Russian bot" or even just "a Russian" in general for simply disagreeing on a single aspect of the conflict or even geopolitics in general, I don't really like the idea much. "You know, Putin may not be a great guy and I don't support him, but I don't think he's the next Hitler either." "hOw'S tHe WeAtHeR iN mOsCoW?!" "I don't blame Ukraine for defending their country and all, but I don't think we should be discouraging a peace treaty like we have." "rUsSiAn BoT!" "Got to admit, I don't really like the idea of countless young men on either side dying for this war." "pUtIn SuPpOrTeR!!" Considering those same people who jump to those statements are also in part determining our nation's leadership who then determine who has authority to make such decisions, it doesn't inspire much confidence.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

"There's 2 kinds of countries in this world. Those who use the metric system, and those who have stealth bombers."

[@oniemployee3437]

Who's to say we don't? If we know about your **stealth** bombers then they're not really doing a good job being stealthy, huh? ;D

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

​@@oniemployee3437We told you about them, that's the thing. The B-2 Spirit is a forty-year old stealth bomber that's been known about since the nineties, yet no other country has found a way to effectively deal with it.

[@justinbiller6683]

​@@lordpumpkinhead265honestly I think that's the funniest thing, pepole say they see UFOs but we haven't publicly announced any new steath for like 30 years. I wonder if they got anything in common

[@wargey3431]

three countries with a stealth bomber countries that use the Metric system and britain

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

@wargey3431 wait, we have stealth bombers? I guess the F-35 counts but it's a shame we have reduced our air fleet so much. The Jaguar was such a sexy fighter.

[@ghoul1shgobl1n49]

Snorting old bay was not on my bingo card for Ryan. But as a marylander myself, that is peak marylandness. 😂😂

[@johnmorgan1629]

Ryan was quick with his superpower, but Nik was quicker with his offset.

[@LegendStormcrow]

And it was perfect. What makes it bette is his real super power got wrecked by Linecrosser's offset. Same offset.

[@jlander1054]

I was crying about how adamant he was about not having to worry about the damn thermostat anymore 😂😂

[@randallparker8477]

That was fast! Nick is a natural. On a USN ship my buddy was an Engineman 1st Class. On the morning of the space shuttle explosion we were all eating breakfast in the 1st Class Mess watching the shuttle launch. As soon as it blew, 1.5 seconds tops, Engineman 1st Class says, " The last thing on their mind was...nothing." 20 grown ass men had tears in their eyes... from the disaster and laughing hard at his comment.

[@Dskater84]

as a romanian, the advent calendar joke WAS funny. please save me from this hellhole of a country and take me to america so i can experience freedom

[@SpookyEng1]

Fly to Mexico, cross border, claim asylum, Done! Welcome to the U.S.A.!

[@keymaster8176]

Use the app they will fly you over

[@gp556by45]

We got the space homie

[@michaelmiller6050]

What bro? This country is on fire. Your country is the one Americans are fleeing to.

[@siegethompson3194]

@@michaelmiller6050lmfao you’re retarded

[@DookSweats]

I can picture MacBeth hammered off some crazy expensive whisky, sitting in a lounge chair, smoking a cigar, on the deck of his yacht singing that song!

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

Seems like the type of fella to enjoy a diddy yacht party.

[@revsellers]

Brandon: “there’s no actual legal precedent for targeting state actors using mis information….” Nick: “it’s never a war crime the first time…”

[@Deerhunterjs]

Canada knows all about that.

[@Bobis32]

@@Deerhunterjs Ah yes the Geneva Suggestions

[@fireantfury2539]

​@Bobis32 ain't on the canadian bucket list if nobody's tried it yet and that's the best part

[@robertpopa2628]

Local area net for grunts? Isn't that a firepit?

[@markalbert9011]

"They had a great time until Hitler failed the trust fall"......it was right about when he said that, that my morning coffee came out my nose.

[@dr.oetqer]

"Let's kill people together", Ryan to Brandon, while gently touching his shoulder. This should have been the opening of the show. 🤣

[@Sweetness71775]

He's a legit psychopath.

[@Psycorde]

@@Sweetness71775 What got your panties in a bunch? Can't take a joke? Kremlin stan, I see you

[@Marmot_with_a_Branch_of_Plums2]

@@Sweetness71775 No, he's legitimately based. Foreign state run bot networks funded with the sole purpose to wage information/cyber warfare against us are valid targets.

[@m2hmghb]

@@Sweetness71775 Nah. He's desensitized.

[@mosh.4245]

@@Sweetness71775 He's not a Psychopath he doesn't do the weaponeering

[@PROSF313]

This was one of the best episodes ever. Brandon and Macbeths back and forth about the military industrial complex was epic!!!

[@ConnerHubbart]

it’s refreshing seeing a disagreement between two people not deteriorate to a fight. 2:31:17

[@knightnotnight]

Too fat too furious 2 actress 10 minute argument, you nailed it

[@dylannix4289]

It did feel like a bad faith argument based on a misunderstanding. Because the gang literally only refuted with humor, even though Ryan technically has a point The misunderstanding here is that Ryan is trying to emphasize how the whole “buhh MIC rrraaahh” thing is bs, which it is. They have many fingers in many pies, but it’s more like a doomed perpetual motion machine than a godlike entity. No matter how much manmade horrors they put out, they’re essentially running off of their own fumes While the gang clearly thinks Ryan is saying defense contractor aren’t significant at all, which is not the case here

[@Sweetness71775]

@@dylannix4289 Lol are you on crack? Oh wait you're defending the MIC. You're on powder. Duh. Dude. The last 4 actual wars the US fought were solely due to the MIC.

[@ImDudePlayinADude]

@@dylannix4289 Ryan also said the top 5 defense contractors made under 13billion. I just added up the 2022 numbers, and the top 5 made just under 200 billionin revenue from defense. So he may have only looked at profit, or something, but thats irrelevent to how much the us gov spends on it.

[@bilson7523]

​​@@dylannix4289I think the point Ryan should have made, which he probably couldn't because of the whiskey, is: Right now, in America, do you think Raytheon, Lockheed, and Northrup have more power than Apple, Google, and Amazon? The latter absolutely have more pull in society. And, ultimately, I think Ryan's point is the shadowy corporate power isn't in defense contracting anymore. It's in big tech.

[@cjhackattack2375]

26:00 Another polish ship is ORP Piorun (G65). They harassed the Bismarck while while radioing and flashing“I am a pole”

[@sierrascoundrel]

I've decided it's best not to wake up on Saturday until the sound of giggles and White Claws can fill my ears. Thanks guys!

[@sierrascoundrel]

Last week I had to sleep for whole extra day, thanks for the rest, needed it!

[@CollinGalbraith]

@@sierrascoundrelI literally woke up and seen they posted and it was the only thing I’ve done today

[@NeedsMorePants]

People like Ryan are why I use Linux with various ad/script blocks, never connect to public wifi, severely limit my browsing over cell data, and pay in cash when possible >_> That's not meant as an attack, that's meant as a sign of respect

[@platapus112]

No its for your own safety because pussies like him will use it to ruin your life

[@RayvenTheNight]

Dude I feel you man, I hate how everything is digital these days and people think I'm legit insane for preferring to always have physical cash.

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

​@@RayvenTheNightHell, I use cards all the time yet I can see the appeal of having $50-$100 in assorted bills on hand at all times. If the services go down (which is probable), then what are you gonna use to pay?

[@Makro3d]

Hate to break it to you, but that uniqueness makes you easier to find. Also, do you take your phone with you or do you leave it stationary? Because if you take it with you, well, bad news there buddy.

[@rainman6080]

Just an fyi. All the dollars you get out of the ATM have a camera take a picture of the serial numbers so it can still be traced back to you. 😮😮😮

[@sirbriskk]

My medic experience was interesting, I was the calm one thinking it would be a easy fix... I was the one who dialed 911 for bleeding that wouldn't stop. I got dressed while bleeding, grabbed my house keys, and met the cops on my door step locking the door behind my... They relaxed and asked me how bad it was so I moved the towel wrapped around my arm and started gushing blood everywhere... I was still calm but the ambulance picked me up from my door step and put me right in a plane... I'm still calm since I live in a small town like " oh, must not have an ER surgeon on hand..." They keep asking me who they need to call, I just said " it's alright, I'll be home in the morning. Then they held my hand and leaned in... "I think you should really have us call someone".. I remained calm but got worried... turns out I lost 2 liters of blood at this point and they were asking who to call if I died. I think I just excepted it might happen so I didn't freak out. Probably helped safe my own life by not freaking out... The tourniquet did kill a nerve so my hand and wrist don't work right now... But I am happy to be alive, Really just a good story of tomorrow is never promised. Adding this as I watch. I was in my tourniquet for a little over 2 hours... worst pain of my life. who am I kidding... no one will read all of this..

[@Akakiryuushin]

i did, and that calm ness really helped keep the heartrate slow.

[@sirbriskk]

@@Akakiryuushin I appreciate you reading it all, The paramedics thought they would lose me on the flight but I never even lost consciousness. I'm defiantly lucky

[@Akakiryuushin]

@@sirbriskk really lucky. i cut my toe once and nearly passed out from the full teaspoon of blood i lost. im pretty sure i cant handle blood so im sure to be screwed in your situation

[@sirbriskk]

@Akakiryuushin I've had many injuries and have bled alot. This was by far my most. Never been to a hospital for bleeding till recently. 2 liters is a lot.

[@LegendStormcrow]

I read parts of it. Glad you made it.

[@Yevgeni_Prigozhin]

Thanks!

[@SamlSchulze1104]

After hearing about Eli's security-tism, the wild panic scream and abject horror stricken face in the Ghost Bed ad makes so much more sense now.

[@Vote4Drizzt]

I was so glad to see Brandon push into the claim about targetting disinformation actors. Not because I don't see a point about the importance of these functions in modern politics and conflict. I just also think Brandon raises a solid point about targetting speech and the sticky moral issues that brings. I think its good and right to put ideas to the test like that.

[@djdanno13]

It's definitely sticky but I think Ryan's retort is a fair line. He's not saying you kill the guy who says "Russia did nothing wrong" he saying target the guy who says "Russia did nothing wrong, now go out and shut down this power grid, prevent this port from loading containers, etc." Speech that incites violence is not protected speech under the 1st amendment.

[@bsowers22]

@@djdanno13you both make excellent points. Brandon is worried about the slope I.e. the Government could take someone out who is just like us some rando guys with an opinion, but the Government could make it look like we’re some nefarious actors who are legit bad guys. Ryan is also correct that there already are legit nefarious state sponsored actors who are using this tech to undermine our country and fight an info war against us. We need to maintain the ability to defend ourselves. Anyone who’s ever had a social media argument knows just showing “The Facts” to counter a narrative is useless, no matter what, the other people refuse to believe it. It’s a very nasty situation.

[@kinocorner976]

@@bsowers22Brandon is a classic libertarian, sometimes they babble on about things they don’t understand. They’re usually intelligent people, but sometimes they’re little to big for their own good. Nothing against Brandon, but he does that time to time. Ryan did that a lot in this video 🤣. People like Brandon think they know best and legitimately wants what’s best, but don’t understand the finer details of the expanding grey area we currently find ourselves in. It’s hard to apply certain laws and rights to these things. These networks aren’t people saying, “America is bad, eat Chinese cookies.” It’s “America is bad, now I need you to riot and cause as much damage as possible to American infrastructure and people.” These people aren’t giving their opinion, they’re inciting violence and are legitimate threats. Someone with a network can cause more damage to people than a bomb or a gun can.

[@LegendStormcrow]

​@@kinocorner976The problem is where does that line start. Does it start at "someone should X" or "I don't feel bad for X." One is condoning the actions, but the other one is simply stating lack of care. What stops it from sliding back from there? Governments rarely give back power once gained.

[@kermitthefrog2578]

​@@LegendStormcrow the line should start when those who simply state an opinion not shouting for violence are hit by the government, the other thing is to have checks and balances like for instance you can have a four check comb through that entire person's life on the Internet and some in between and if there's enough to be warned for inciting violence then there's reason enough to act, there's no perfect solution for everything and there's gonna be grey lines everywhere but having people know inciting violence is not protected by the first amendment can be a start, and to stay out of a dictator like state start pushing people to take less than lethal action about suspicious people calling for riots/violence or anything similar that could cause a loss of life.

[@aydenno1012]

“I do not not like my neighbor so I put landmine in front of his house.” Damn that’s creative might steal that idea from him

[@fireantfury2539]

Shhhh the ATF is listening 😂

[@KnawedOne]

Give him props for creative thinking and elevating neighbor- neighbor relationships to a new level.

[@trollusa3206]

Habitual: yeah these are numbers 😂😂😂😂 everyone missed it but one of the best lines in the show.

[@danielfrank2985]

Ryan describing his job and how he “investigates” people who engage in “disinformation” is absolutely terrifying like I had a vague idea people could do this but hearing it laid out in detail is kind of unnerving.

[@lars7747]

Also your address and work schedule is really easy to find online. Especially if you ever ordered online or get your schedule from an app

[@savageinstitute9569]

Especially because he is not wise enough to understand he is now in the industry that intends to criminalize mistatements and lies, and only those from private citizens not the government. He is on a path that is harshly anti-free speech. Also he seems desperate for any attention as he can't find his way into the beltway intelligence industry and instead leans on the programming education and ends up the data side, while pretending to be in "intelligence." Just my observations recently.

[@Swangbang]

Especially when he goes on a rant about killing them later in the pod lmao

[@FUnzzies1]

He engages in a ton himself. Like A LOT

[@mybru1]

​@FUnzzies1 😂😂😂 where. Everytime he got something wrong he publicly stated it and corrected himself. Judging by your comments about him on here and on his channel your most likely a little turd seething at him

[@pablosauceda5737]

Not gonna lie this was one of the best pods y’all made, loved how Brandon wasn’t afraid to push and question Ryan on his position on somethings

[@Sweetness71775]

Yeah because Ryan's positions are completely inconsistent with this little thing called "reality".

[@Ben_not_10]

@@Sweetness71775Ryan says the quiet part out loud. I live with a conservative who when he sees people acting like animals on the internet goes on a rant about how those particular people need to be dragged into the streets and beaten to death for something like burning an American flag. The danger is the sentiment has ALWAYS been there amongst middle Americans, Ryan is saying infront of millions of people what too many cowards will only say in private. Tbh I don’t agree with Ryan on this and I am thankful that Brandon is the one keeping true to his character and pushing back. Nicks playing devils advocate for Ryan was a bit concerning given his stance on communism and how often the first thing communists and fascists like to control is free speech.

[@noodlelynoodle.]

​@@Sweetness71775yeah he had some of the worst takes I've heard in a while lol like it was hilarious but it was weird af

[@pablosauceda5737]

@@Sweetness71775 dude was either definitely feeling that whiskey or is a little less smart than some people give him credit for

[@isaachousley325]

​@noodlelynoodle. Are they though? How many wars/military actions throughout history have happened because leader thought that another was trying to influence their base of power?

[@radarmike6713]

As a Canadian... I am willing to continue to help assist the world in their Geneva checklist.... We got you Nick.

[@Der_Dekanter]

Um I'm half German half Canadian. Sooooo

[@Palora01]

what would be the war crime here?

[@benstadnik4737]

Damn, this one was both incredibly hilarious, and extremely informational. Absolutely fantastic episode, love you guys. Funnily enough, I listened to Ryan's story just a few weeks back, pleasantly surprised to see him on here.

[@maskedman327]

“ I’m not racist but I got a joke your are gonna love” bro is my spirit animal

[@s.d.bobplissken5674]

Tony Montana snorting mountains of old bay screaming say hello to my little friend as he unloads his 40 tow missiles because they were about to expire.

[@charlesdecker4841]

🤣🤣🤣🤗

[@Al.Caller]

Brandon was correct. The Quick Sink misses the ship and explodes under water. Like a torpedo and breaks the ships keel.

[@luke5g230]

What a bloody ripper of a podcast thank you all so much!

[@ryanquinn1257]

“That’s up to their lawyers” is one of the most hilarious successful question half answers I’ve heard in a bit 😂

[@JoshuaGold1]

Out of all the lines in this podcast, that one hit me the best

[@pilotmanpaul]

I don't know. That made Ryan to me as someone who is prone to becoming a Dictator if he is willing to blur the lines to that extent.

[@kermitthefrog2578]

​@@pilotmanpaul so would you continue playing the devil's advocate? Because damned if you do damned if you don't.

[@Palora01]

@@pilotmanpaul you do realize that's the only real answer, right? Everything else is a moralistic nonsense placebo speech given for easy bragging points that will never apply in any real world situation. China, Russia, Iran, Hamas and more are already engaged in asymmetric cybernetic war against the rest of the world but the USA specifically. And they are doing it because it's the only way, for now, in which they can get away with it. And yes when/if the USA does begin targeting disinformation agents with kinetic strikes it would be entirely up to their supreme leader if they want to respond in kind and, in civilized nations (so not Russia, China, North Korea or Iran) the government lawyers to reasonably justify how their government can do that. But cyber attacks should totally have repercussions. Because the result is really more important than how you get to it. It really doesn't matter how you unalive a soldier (bullets or words), how you shut down a factory (bombs or disinformation), how you destroy a country (nuclear bomb or convince the people their elections and government are irredeemably corrupt). At the end of the day the soldier is no longer a threat, the factory is shut down and the country is destroyed. And yes Ryan is totally aware that he, as a US citizen, would be more protected against counter-attacks because he is a citizen of the strongest nation in the world.

[@Palora01]

@@pilotmanpaul why? that's a realistic approach to it not some placebo virtue signaling answer with no real world applicability. Most civilized governments would only be able to do it if their lawyers could justify it to their voters as something their government should be able to do. Key word here is civilized, Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and a few others, get to skip that step in dealing with the issue and go straight for real world repercussions for taking those actions. Russia and China are already out there targeting information "agents" in other countries and getting away with it. (I say information not disinformation agents because it's people literally telling the truth about those governments)

[@daltonmckee4788]

"We are the war thunder of podcasts" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Genny207]

It looks like that quick sink bomb is supposed to work like a torpedo except it's dropped from the top instead of the side. Explanation was made on SmarterEveryDay's channel: The thing's target isn't the boat, it's the water below the boat. It's objective it to cavitate the water so the center of the boat is unsupported while the ends of it are, then the boat just folds under its own weight. I'm sure this is even more effective though, because you also punch a hole straight through the hull causing a weak point that you now get to compromise the hull at.

[@flexinclouds]

I thought Brandon was right. He mentioned the cavitation & I remember learning about it

[@wargey3431]

its exactly how britain used tallboys to sink the tirpitz a big enough bang deep in the ship will crack its spine it also helps if it also sets off the magazine also thats a modern built cargo ship keels on ships are not as overbuilt as they were for warships in the 1910s-1940s

[@bobbytyler7097]

Holy shit I love this podcast. As an Army Vet, my twisted sense of humor aligns with these guys even though they are quite a few years younger than I am.

[@omegagarry8192]

On today episode of Unsubscribe: Ryan McBeth never gave up the will to live, Gets drunk and calls for the death of thousands. then starts drunkenly singing army cadances like show tunes

[@DesertFernweh]

And thats why it is the best episode ever.

[@kaedemisawa5942]

ah, a fellow NC

[@thegewehrmann8646]

@@kaedemisawa5942 better than the purple spandex squad. I'll take an NC over a VS any day.

[@banegas0411]

@@thegewehrmann8646 live free in the NC

[@theplourde]

"It's like the Swiss Family Robinson fleshlight" - Brandon Herrera, colorized 2024

[@joshstanton267]

Ofc it had to be Brandon to be the first to put "family" and "Fleshlight" in one sentence 😂

[@ReallifeRedHarlow]

The Tism Strikes Back. Love you guys. Glad to see habitual is back

[@SuperMisteriPlayer]

most 40mm HV HE rounds have a self destruct fuse that goes off after 2200m or a set ammount of rotations. its the 40 mm LV rounds that have not set max range

[@CocktailsConsoles]

"Is this what you drink when you're on your periods?" 🤣

[@t.Purpose.t.Found.t]

Mcbeth is a great example of a high functioning sociopath. I hope I don't get a bill for his dominatrix services. He must have thousands of people living rent free in his mind.

[@briantaylor6463]

Ryan doing those old cadences brought back a flood of memories from basic training. You guys nailed it again,I mean I'm not sure what "it" is I just know you nailed it.

[@justbuggin67]

It’s still blows my mind that Jeff Baxter, the guitarist of Steely Dan and Doobie brothers fame, gave us the thought of using Aegis as a missile defense system via a 5 page paper.

[@kennethschlegel870]

There's no way that's real *one Google later" holy shit...

[@DavidNewman-f5s]

Ryan's fedora went from am interesting acetic choice to Raymond Reddingtion real fast

[@jacobdoerr3075]

One of the best episodes so far. I could watch this group talk in depth on this for 10 hours.

[@JoshuaHudson421]

Here for the algorithm from Pepperbox. Amazing episode guys. Much love ❤

[@cow_powah]

Things to take to heart: If the nurse/medic/EMT looks worried as fuck and trying to keep their cool while tending to you, have the other medic (or them) take down your living will cause you might need it if you don't already have it. Edit: We have the Black Hawk. China has the White Pigeon. Same difference!

[@LegendStormcrow]

The Chinese version would accidentally include a racist slur against black people and the bird would throw in a random bird of prey, like an owl.

[@TheNewms90]

McBeth there got more and more bloodthirsty with his takes the more that bottle got lower. Loved it lol, dude is def a character. Another great episode. Second time watching it. I am late with the comment, not that it's important in any way. Love ya boys, always look forward to the next.

[@e.scottdaugherty8291]

I have been accused of using the word "fuck" as if it was a comma in my discussions, so I understand completely.

[@Mr.Potato420]

dude snorted old bay and didnt even flinch.

[@CanadianInScotland]

What an absolute beast from Maryland

[@thenovicewildcamper9192]

Infantryman don't back down hoo rah

[@chugachuga9242]

McBeth has the most terrifying aura of any guest they have ever had on the podcast

[@paddington1670]

it was make believe, not meant to disparage Ryan, i like him.

[@delaseoul87]

18:00

[@leviervin405]

I have every single video downloaded, these never disappoint. Haha this is by far the best podcast ever made!

[@Snowyowlphotography]

Just a friendly reminder, don’t let this podcast play while you’re sleeping otherwise you will wake up with the most messed up dreams lol I woke up laughing while thinking I had PTSD. It was awesome Absolutely love this podcast.

[@smotherytable39]

4:55 "WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN"

[@Crazy_Broke_Asian]

Do NOT write that down

[@Twinspinner]

​@@Crazy_Broke_Asian no no no let him cook

[@E2J25]

Hahaha no Sponge Bob

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

Fellas, wake up! New alternative to the Pringles Can just dropped!

[@theosprey_mk00]

"This is the War Thunder Podcast" absolutely got me!

[@GamerValene]

Marylander snorting Old Bay, yeah, that tracks. There is an Old Bay vodka too.

[@kooolainebulger8117]

i hate old bay and yet i live in maryland

[@mattmumford430]

​@@kooolainebulger8117 weak

[@GamerValene]

@@kooolainebulger8117 JO person?

[@kooolainebulger8117]

@@GamerValene not a clue what that is

[@uncreativename826]

Also Old Bay Goldfish

[@keyslonsimon4571]

Seeing all my favorite content creators together hanging out, shootin the breeze, being friends is something special man, ill tell you what.

[@chrisarnoldTX]

As an retired Aegis FC who worked on BMD systems..........I want a shirt that immortalizes the Army acknowledging "Aegis is just better in every way".........

[@wargey3431]

Aegis what skynet should have been called or is it Skynet what aegis should have been called

[@wittsullivan8130]

There are literal books about how the M-16 got the shaft during Vietnam. Secretary of Defense McNamarah was hired to reduce the cost of warfare and brought a whole team of accountants with him. I don't know what other equipment and logistics got screwed up by them, I just know they ignored everything Eugene Stoner recommended. Btw, Stoner designed the AR-10, Jim Sullivan, Stoner's long time assistant and some other guys were in charge of scaling the AR-10 down to shoot the .222 Remington cartridge, later the .223 with Stoner's supervision. Stoner was against the bolt forward assist, for some reason, they stuck with it. They eliminated the chrome lined chamber, chrome lined bore, and chrome plating on the bolt carrier group. The original grip had a trap door so a bottle of oil could be stored in it. The original buttplate had a trap door for a cleaning kit. The trap doors were eliminated as were the cleaning kits, all to save a few dollars per rifle. One theory is the rear of the bolt "cleans" itself when the rifle is fired so carbon doesn't build up as much there. One of the bean counters took that to mean that the rifle was "self cleaning." You had all the soldiers and Marines go through basic training learning how to use and operate the M-14, basically the same rifle their dads used during WW2 and some of them took deer with them. When they get to Vietnam, they're issued the M-16, a completely different rifle, a hopped up .22 magnum. In the early part of the war, they were issued magazines which were pre-loaded at the factory and they were told the magazines were disposable, so they didn't retain them. When some soldiers got a resupply of ammo in boxes, they had no idea how to load their magazines by hand. When they were issued bandoleers with stripper clips and charging spoons, they knew how to do that because that's how they loaded their M-14 magazines. I don't know what company decided to use WW2 ball powder to load .223 on the cheap, but of course, that made everything super dirty. You have high humidity, getting dunked into water and mud, and no oil or cleaning kits, bolts were rust welding to the chamber, locking the guns up. They had no cleaning rods to clear the bores of obstructions so they were blowing barrels. Even a .30 caliber bullet can be deflected by brush, it wasn't the fault of .223. I had that happen with a .45-70 before I figured out there was one little twig hanging between me and my target. With 55 grain bullets going at .223 speeds, a 1:15 twist is sufficient to stabilize the bullet to 100 yards to get to the 4 MOA standard. That's the same twist they put in .223 bolt action rifles. When they bumped up the power with 5.56, it destabilized the bullet and increased barrel wear, so they went with the 1:12 twist for the A2. Another problem they had was with the pencil thick barrel getting warped by soldiers using the three prong flash hider to pop the steel bands off ration and ammo crates when they didn't have any pliers. Plus, the thinner barrel couldn't handle obstructions as well as a thicker barrel. Basically, the M16A1(minus the forward assist) is colser to the rifle Stoner and Sullivan and crew actually designed and intended to issue, the M-16 is what they had at home.

[@hephaestus220]

Just how Cody is slowly looking more like a wizard as his beard grows

[@andersed1]

KE= 1/2m * v^2 is for calculating the energy for projectiles. E=mc^2 is for canned sunshine. 56:12

[@MGTexan47]

Only after disaster can we be resurrected. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything. Nothing is static, everything is evolving, everything is falling apart..- Tyler Durden

[@OpeNorthBud]

I didn’t start watching til a few weeks ago. But I’m so happy. This is how I speak. This is my comedy. Thanks guys. Fuck KZbin.

[@ColonelEviscerator]

I can get behind the idea of destroying state-funded misinformation, but that kind of suppression of speech is too easily abused to be left in the hands of the government, or worse, the government bureaucracy.

[@SomeCallMeTim47]

Yeah, that one was over the line. Like I get where he's coming from but we've got a bunch of smart people (including him) so we can definitely figure out a better way to deal with the problem.

[@omarcarrero3623]

Hard disagree, i see them the same see spies. You could also say the same thing about protecting and or killing spies

[@Ben_not_10]

I also noticed that it was a point Brandon didn’t back off from. By simply reiterating it’s still speech regardless of what the intent of the speech is. Not a huge Ryan fan tbh and drunk comments like this kinda give a Nixon ordering a nuclear strike vibe.

[@z0phi3l]

This would only work as a military op and not a police op, this would fall under electronic warfare, not a boots on the ground or warheads on foreheads type operation but still some some key players are valid military targets, just like any other terrorist leader

[@kevinw4267]

Don’t understand your reasoning here. I don’t see you crying when someone get killed in the field

[@thejollygrimreaper]

Warning : this episode is so funny you will cry and your mental health will improve just from laughter alone, pee before hitting play , avoid drinking liquids in front of anything valuable

[@Flippyrock2011]

Had to pause quite a few time to catch my breath, my side hurt lol

[@caesari3708]

I really appreciate Brandon at the end of this episode goddamn.

[@tryitout977]

How does unsub literally have the best guests?

[@bbl4st3edd69]

Because they truly love their fans and give us the best

[@Diddy_claps_Meek_Mill]

Because they know their audience.

[@savageinstitute9569]

Because they are cool and people need to promote themselves.

[@pilotmanpaul]

I wouldn't call this dude a "best guest" seeming how he is teethering on Dictatorship levels of control on a nation.

[@kermitthefrog2578]

​@@pilotmanpaul that's almost every nation right now, especially with the Britain and their laws locking people up for stuff they say online.

[@gas_lol85]

Was great seeing Ryan at the live show! Keep killing it guys!

[@Darkreine99]

Habitual, Ryan, and Nick all in one, :O all we need is Angry Cop and we will have a full house :)

[@thenovicewildcamper9192]

Ac is the one 😂

[@TheTuftyOne]

Christ, adding AC to this mix would be unhinged!

[@AlaskaDogGuy]

Then add niko Ortiz. That would break the internet

[@michaelmiller6050]

Bro. What’s up with that. Profile pic

[@CovertSerpent]

I don't think they could even post that episode on YT 😂

[@brendandodson6553]

I lived in Maryland for a while. I know so many defense contractors. None of them build tanks or ships. They sell cyber services, and make a shitload of money. The military industrial complex is alive and well.

[@charlesdecker4841]

But do you know Steve ? 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️😉😂

[@kinocorner976]

Meanwhile companies like Amazon and Google laughing at your comment. Cyber services? 🤣

[@chilloutdude3617]

The moment he said it didn't exist is the moment I understood he is still in it

[@zachhoefs9543]

​@@chilloutdude3617exactly

[@Flippyrock2011]

Yeah it still exists but nowhere as nearly as big as back in the cold war. Back then those guy rolling in DOD r&d money like Scruge McDuck

[@Jonnyrocket97]

As someone stuck in Maryland.. I’m deeply pained I couldn’t escape Old Bay on this podcast 😂🤣 Yes you can put it in beer, food, eyes it’s fine.

[@ff--ji5yj]

Lived in Maryland for 2 years I hate old bay.

[@dirus3142]

Brandon and Ryan both had great points in that final discussion. Brandon is defending the American ethics on free speech. Forcing that hard sell argument. Which is what we need more of. Ryan is explaining a threat that is attacking the hearts and minds of our younger generation. Which is leading them to hate their own society to the point they want to tear it down. This is giving America a huge dilemma. How does America hold to it's ethics stated in the bill of rights, and remove an insidious threat to the nation?

[@thebman468]

100%. Both of their arguments are really understandable.

[@TheDreadPirateRoberts-jr2fk]

It’s not even a 1A thing, he’s talking about targeting non-Americans (to start with anyway, but we all know how slippery that slope is). There is just no way it doesn’t get abused and I’d say unethical to begin with. The twitterfiles showed the gov was pushing the company to push an anti-Russian narrative. Does this make twitter employees valid targets for Russia?

[@szariq7338]

As a Pole, well, I don't mind those huge hardware purchases, but before all those flashy purchases we should have acquired stuff, that actually keeps the military going. Clothes, boots, ammo for existing hardware (couple of years ago there was a famous article, how for every Leopard we only had 8 shells) AND ESPECIALLY image, so that people would stop associating it with pathologies as recent as 2000s (famous "wave" system, where conscripts closer to their discharge would abuse and sometimes do messed up stuff to those, who were further away from it).

[@Psycorde]

iirc they decided to get a bunch of South Korean stuff instead of American hardware, that's going to be interesting

[@andrewmoore7022]

​@@Psycorde in addition to, not instead.

[@wargey3431]

the big thing they should have put forward is how you bought 100 skysabre batteries whilst its producer the UK has what 5

[@richwalter3107]

Ok , RECENTLY RETIRED defense contractor employee here. I particiapte in each of your comment sections. AND I OWN stock in my former employer. So, if you paid attention, YOU DO know someone in a defense company. ( probably about 8% of you total audience is veterans who work for one)

[@bsowers22]

Not to mention, the other “benign” companies that Ryan mentioned as being bigger than defense contractors, all have Government and Defense Contracts themselves or they own subsidiaries that have them. So he’s being pretty guilty of what he preaches against.

[@leecline5759]

​@@bsowers22 Dude, Ryan's point was that the traditional MIC that Eisenhower was railing against don't have the same power over the government as the new big tech companies do. The big boogie man everyone was scared of got replaced by someone else and no one talks about that.

[@bsowers22]

@@leecline5759 no they didn't get replaced by another boogie man, they just became part of the boogie man that Eisenhower was talking about.

[@johnrhodes4273]

The collab we didn’t know we needed until it happened. Ryan and hlc are top notch.

[@Sweetness71775]

Top notch grifters, maybe.

[@mildly_miffed_man1414]

@@Sweetness71775why are you on this channel if you hate everyone and everything, dude.

[@jurassicturtle3666]

​@@mildly_miffed_man1414oh cut him some slack, he's sitting at his desk at the bot farm nervously checking the sky every few minutes. Of course he's gotta blow off some steam

[@joeblow5214]

​@@jurassicturtle3666I actually like HLC, Brandon, Eli, and HLC. I used to like Ryan, but his brain is cooked harder than an egg in a frying pan.

[@Sweetness71775]

@@mildly_miffed_man1414 I love the hosts. Both of their guests are globalist shills.

[@mikeblue6732]

The greatest show yet, I swear it was like sittin around drinking with my old Army buddies.

[@Callsign_Glizzy]

"So how was karate?" JESUS CHRIST BRANDON

[@conradpfalzgraf]

Why Gary Why😂

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

Jody would approve.

[@ConcreteHeat]

Being a Ryan Mcbeth fan before this episode was HYPE.

[@The_Cranky_Painter]

The difference between apple and lockheed martin, is that one is paid for with taxpayer money, while the other is purchased voluntarily...

[@Sweetness71775]

And one has hard power and the other doesn't. One can (and let's be honest, has) caused high powered people to croak, the other hasn't as far as I know. Ryan is a disingenuous clown.

[@MeeesterBond17]

Apple - Yep, that's exactly right. (laughs in taxpayer-funded subsidies)

[@ginacalabrese3869]

​@Sweetness71775 there are apps that the military uses with smartphones that can literally call in an airstrike. For example ATAK (Android Tactical Assault Kit). The Apple version (ITAK) probably has the same abilities.

[@Sweetness71775]

@@ginacalabrese3869 Hardware vs softare.

[@grtwhtbnr]

​@@Sweetness71775I GOT IT!!!😅

[@KnawedOne]

Ryan McBeth is definitely my favorite UnSub guest! Great tolerance for booze, funny as hell, phenomenal memory and just unhinged enough to keep things exciting. ♥️🥃♥️

[@manjisaipoe517]

Eli, with out letting the others know, get a table the same color/shape with a 6" larger diameter. You can move a bit away from the human sweater, and everyone will think they are shrinking. Sorry to your camera guy for the slight change it would require!😅

[@billygammage7798]

Eli is the camera guy

[@manjisaipoe517]

@@billygammage7798 Doh! I knew that!! LOL

[@wesley8599]

​@@manjisaipoe517'Tism fingers summoned "Do you want to know my settings?"