Unused voiced Maruki counseling sessions - Persona 5 Royal

[@RhythmStraw]

Yusuke's not being dubbed is pain.

[@FazPersona]

Yusuke has no food and no dubbed scene, pain

[@margaretrosemartin6477]

@@FazPersona Yusuke doesn’t have Futaba as a girlfriend already, doesn’t have food and doesn’t have a dubbed scene, pain

[@tommytran7409]

What’s pains the most that he doesn’t have a gay option with Ren.

[@zobozo5059]

@@margaretrosemartin6477 I'm sure Yusuke and Futaba will get together eventually

@@zobozo5059 That will never happen.

[@TheBonkleFox]

"No, Ryuji. We don't call a teacher breaking your leg a 'bruh moment'."

[@Kugathalord22]

I feel bad for laughing but that's funny

[@marley3679]

I mean knowing Maruki he would just go with it. “Sorry, what’s a ‘bruh moment’?” “Oh, uh. It’s when something happens, like you drop something, it’s a bruh moment. Someone says somethin’ weird, it’s a bruh moment. A teacher breaks your leg, it’s a bruh moment.” “Alright then.”

[@archivist_13]

@@marley3679 he would then absolutely use it incorrectly. Kawakami: "So how have you been doing recently?" Maruki: "It's been a real bruh moment."

[@spudsbuchlaw]

@@archivist_13 Gotdamn, he totally would say that, wouldnt he?

[@archivist_13]

@@spudsbuchlaw Maruki definitely gives off that kind of vibe doesn't he?

[@Dracobyte]

Rest in peace, Billy Kametz.

[@robbric6098]

So THAT'S how Maruki knew Morgana wanted to be human. Seems like these scenes were cut so late in development that nobody realized they were creating a plot hole by removing them.

[@普通の人あなたの普通の]

No he heard it when Maruki when to Leblanc and Futaba and Morgana are there

[@PWLfr]

@@普通の人あなたの普通の He shouldn't have been able to hear Morgana, did he ?

[@普通の人あなたの普通の]

@@PWLfr he heard him alright and yeah he should’ve cause he had a glimpse of the meta verse a year prior and heard Morgana once

[@nerysstuart4210]

@@普通の人あなたの普通の Maruki's first venture into the Metaverse was when [SPOILERS] Mementos fused with reality. He knew Futaba was talking to her cat, but likely just thought she was responding to meows

[@thiago292]

​@@PWLfranswering it after two years, but: even in the base game it isn't a plot hole. Morgana mentions during the party that he wanted to look more like the TV actor and it's not that much of a stretch to assume that Maruke had been watching him at that time (as is also implied that Maruki was watching him after the fight Yaldabaoth as well)

[@ErenxJ]

Welcome to another episode of " why tf is this not in the game!?"

[@a_ninja2376]

Probs to make it less obvious for the ending. Like if it’s not voiced you let your guard down. At least I did.

[@mrex666productions7]

It's a last minute change I think. Remember Yusuke's one isn't here, which means they wasted all the time to dub them to rewrite the whole script and can't reaudit.

[@assassin1162]

15:08 Maruki speaks to himself with Haru voice

[@FazPersona]

NOOOOOO

[@assassin1162]

@@FazPersona nah, no worries tho 😀

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

It's so baffling that they cut these tracks considering they used them in the dream sequence. Atlus cut a lot of Royal's unique dialogue and honestly I don't really know why it doesn't really conflict with the plot or the characters as they were changed so removing these feels like a huge neg.

[@alconfalcon]

This... truly breaks my heart. Maruki discussing dreams, and trying to give people hope... It would have made the Third Semester so harder to walk through.

[@erachiiii]

The re-written version makes it much less obvious what Maruki was doing. Still they maybe should've kept something about Mona in Futaba's one cause I think in the re-written one they don't mention his desire

[@iwantsleep8079]

Minor third semester spoiler 12:50 So *FUTABA’S* the reason to blame for human Morgana

[@jcplays5831]

Maruki was someone I held close to through my playthrough because I’ve been to council in and therapy. I have plenty of regrets and things I wish I could change, but my therapist helped me more than I could’ve ever imagined. Seeing the main cast, characters who I related to more than any game, have therapy sessions with a man who talked so similarly to my old therapist reminded me of how much therapist truly help. And while I can see where Maruki was coming from in the third semester, I can’t agree with him because I realized I wouldn’t be in the position I’m in without my regrets. Humans are meant to have regrets so you can learn from them and grow as a person.

[@joepo6522]

And that’s where the lines for the new years dream come from

[@PoIarization101]

I was confused why a bunch of the new content was unvoiced when it turns out it was, they just didn’t use it for whatever mind boggling reason.

[@s-wo8781]

If you watch the whole thing you'll see a lot of the dialogue is different.

[@lildrawhub1025]

​@@s-wo8781 I honestly like this voiced dialogue more than the unvoiced ones in the actual game.

[@sadeknight9112]

These do seem a little *too* on the nose. The team being firmly told they should ignore their problems is rather unsettling for a first play through. Although it does explain how Maruki finds out about their dreams.

[@dustydave961]

This explains why we could hear their voices in that dream. I kind of like these better tbh I do wish Futaba talked to Maruki about cognitive science though, and I see why they went with the tea time for Haru.

[@zeveria7206]

I think part of the reason Futaba's needed to be cut out is because it feels...a bit too soon. She hasn't known Ren for that long. There's a good chance that the player wouldn't even have the Kindness to start her second Confidant at this point. I think she would need more time to develop such strong feelings for Ren.

[@joltganda]

Why this isn’t in the game: I feel it makes it a bit too obvious once all the thieves’ dreams come true.

[@aerodynamo4874]

Exactly what I was thinking By not giving them all solid voicelines, getting to the dream makes you think about where you've heard and seen those lines before.

[@lambbonesdev]

I love these. RIP Billy Kametz

[@malikaithehokage0607]

Rest In Peace Billy Kametz

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Maruki is, sadly, not as much of Therapist goals as I thought on my first playthrough His casual style, kindness, psychological knowledge, and charisma are really strong though

[@ANightattheOpera28]

Him being easy on the eyes imo doesn't hurt either. I'd fall for his schtick hook line and sinker.

[@leaf8554]

Very upset they removed these from the game; I could listen to Dr. Maruki all day. Thank you so much for uploading these!

[@violaashworth8122]

The utter foreshadowing and using certain lines that mirror others in these unvoiced things is kinda scary, actually.

[@ysabelasophiab.didulo3522]

12:40 Futaba sees the MC as family! Yay! :D

[@livingoutloud40]

5:20 In the final game Ryuji straight up says "Nope" and I laughed so hard

[@AQWpaladan]

We needed these

[@livingdoubt54]

*SPOILERS* remember when joker had that dream were he was in school in a prison uniform and he heard their voices? thats probably why they removed the voice clips bcuz if people heard them again in the dream, the players would know its maruki before his reveal as the palace ruler. this is just my theory tho.

[@Emma-Queenofhell]

Its really easy to figure out Kasumi even says all three key words

[@akirayama1534]

Listening to all of these conversations and then looking towards later in the 3rd semester (don’t wanna spoil anything) this is some crazy foreshadowing

[@arielmartinez94]

I can only think of two reasons why this weren't voiced in the final game, 1, they voiced all of these, but changed some of the text after and couldn't re-record them in time, or 2, they didn't finish recording Yusuke's one, so they decided to not have any of the sessions voiced

[@mrex666productions7]

> they voiced all of these, but changed some of the text after and couldn't re-record them in time More like the whole text is overhauled.

[@aerodynamo4874]

@@mrex666productions7 kinda sounds like bullshit but ok? I swear, almost none of the text was changed in the main game, but I may be wrong.

[@mrex666productions7]

@@aerodynamo4874 It's significantly different. Compare between the in game text. Only around 30% are the same.

[@aerodynamo4874]

@@mrex666productions7 no i took a look and all of the voicelines are the same as the text. There are just extra lines in the text. It's not an overhaul.

[@mrex666productions7]

@@aerodynamo4874 What? I took a look at Futaba's once again and compared it to here and NOWHERE in the main game he's asking Futaba about Joker instead of her mom? And Ann's one looks a lot different from what I remember from the final game?

[@eclecticspaghetti]

Some of these feel really weird to me. I wish they had kept some of them, especially Ann’s, but it would be really weird to have some of them voiced and some of them not. Ultimately I prefer that they rewrote it (because it shows that they actually cared about the writing) but the trade off that it had to not be voiced almost makes it not worth it.

[@etahnbrownlster2019]

Spoilers He’s such a great antagonist. Notice how I didn’t say Villian, because he’s not bad, he’s just off trail, he’s a good guy but you need to help him understand, it’s not the best to live in someone’s palm

[@etahnbrownlster2019]

@UCuVR2V5Md1QkG2owS6Fva7A I think it’s more of a popular opinion that can be wrote similarly

[@MagicxWisdom]

THANK YOU!

[@stevenpham1044]

All of these Maruki scenes and talks with the PT really does prove that Maruki isn’t a evil or corrupt antagonist, he just really want to help, give back to the people who helped him, and makes sure no one has to suffer. While I definitely do not agree with his ideals, he is not evil by any stretch, he is just a good man doing the wrong things. Plus, he give us snacc :P

[@s-wo8781]

Wow, Futaba's is almost completely different. I see why they rewrote it. That shit was too long, but it does explain how Maruki knew Morgana wanted to be human.

[@coltonandjen]

I'm not complaining, Erica Lindbeck did a great job voicing Futaba

[@adrianarballo179]

Even though he's a very questionable counselor whenever he counsels Ren and the rest of his friends he almost sounds fatherly in a way. I guess that's why most people call him therapy dad. This is especially true when he's counseling Futaba

[@darklight645_]

12:49 We can thank Futaba for hot Morgana

[@CrimsoNolf]

Its funny, these are technically unused, but you hear some of these clips at the beginning of the third semester when you're walking through Shujin in the striped clothing, but you only hear Ann's, Ryuji's, Haru's and maybe Makoto's if you take forever to get to the school entrance, Yusuke and Futaba's both definatly go unused

[@wonderlandzer0]

Ooh thanks for the info!! I'll have to keep an ear out when I replay that part 👀

[@roxasuchiha5474]

now that royal is coming to PC this month I really hope someone makes a mod to add all these back in. it's an actual CRIME these were cut, I'll never read the in game stuff again and just watch this when I replay the game

[@izunia8436]

At least Futaba's scene didn't include the major reveal that Maruki knows about Cognitive pciensce

[@aerodynamo4874]

Ironically enough you can also think of this from a story line perspective. One of the reasons it couldn't have gotten in is because it already _is_ in. On the Hollow Day, in the middle of New Years and 1/1, Joker has a dream. Over the course of that dream, you hear voicelines of everybody else's dream, the very same lines they use in Dr. Maruki's counseling. While it's way more likely it was just rushing, it also works as a way of trying to make you think "Now where have I heard these words before?" during Joker's dream.

[@SamuraiPanda201]

It's interesting, these highlight for me how much Maruki, attitude and charisma as disarming as they are, is imposing his will on these folks. His interest isn't in helping people confront their fears, problems, or issues. He has an ulterior motive. He wants everyone to believe a specific thing, to get everyone to see his perspective: that if he can remove anything negative from your life, wouldn't that just be better? And then takes even the slightest agreements as confirmation that he's right. The really big moment left in the game that cements it for me is when he tells Joker he wishes he could believe him about Sumire. Sumire told him once that she wanted to be Kasumi. But she changes her mind, she accepts her reality. He stopped wanting what was best for her, he didn't spend time with her like Joker did and learn that in the interim. He's already made up his mind to save her, and that HE knows what's best for her. That and these voiced exchanges lend character foundation to Maruki. Of course he thinks he's doing the right thing. But nothing could be further from the truth.

[@objectionable6693]

Somehow I remembered these all being voiced already in my head until I replayed the game again. Just goes to show how strong the writing is

[@Batmunk664]

There is so much added to the scene with actual voices.

[@jeffeverywhere]

12:50 I was wondering how Maruki was able to grant Morgana's wish without talking to him.

[@jeffeverywhere]

3:04 It looks like Ryuji is committed to Joker.

[@konjiki8203]

Again, why? There is absolutely no reason for no voices. It’s stuff that happens in game.

[@margaretrosemartin6477]

Konjiki!!

[@feazeldagamer2247]

These should have been in the final version of the game.

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

There was no good reason to remove these.

[@TheBrutalSax]

Predictability is probably why. I feel like I would uncover the plot of 3rd semester if I watched these cutscenes during my blind royal playthrough

[@_ANDRE.]

@@TheBrutalSax The whole Maruki thing was still completely obvious. Im actually pissed they cut it. It wouldve been so much better.

[@TheBrutalSax]

@@_ANDRE. him being the villain or a palace ruler was obvious. But this was pretty much implying he was going to take Yaldabaoths place and recreate reality too hard

[@_ANDRE.]

@@TheBrutalSax Not really tho. It only shows that he knows of the dreams of the PT but not that he could make it come true. It only hints at it.

[@TheBrutalSax]

@@_ANDRE. idk he hints pretty hard that he *wants* a perfect reality in like every cutscene from the cut ones. The unvoiced stuff in the final game (minus the Futaba one) were pretty much the identical conversations but had less of the hints at it. I know some weren’t as subtle in the final game but still

[@a_ninja2376]

Sorta spoilers Y’all they probs didn’t use the dubs so you didn’t think the counseling was that important. It helps you let you guard down. At least for me it did

[@alconfalcon]

These Interactions would have thrown in so much character building, though, for Ann, Ryuji, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, and ESPECIALLY Maruki. He’s already a confident, besides Sumire, who we know is important, so a blind player would know something’s up with Maruki. It was (And still is) practically impossible to play Persona 5 / Persona 5 Royal without Spoilers. I still feel that these Dubs should have been thrown in. Even if it was at just random times, and you had to physically go out of your way to unlock the abilities to see these, I would have happily accepted that. I don’t waver. These should have been thrown in.

[@ginadavis7331]

@@alconfalcon I disagree that It would have been obvious. Shinya, Hifumi, Yoshida, Chihaya, etc are all confidants and they mean absolutely nothing really. Giving Maruki more voiced lines than them would make it obvious. It’s only obvious to p5 to p5r players, who are looking for any difference between the games and Maruki is an obvious one.

[@alconfalcon]

@@ginadavis7331 And my secondary argument is still valid.

[@wonderlandzer0]

@@ginadavis7331 the difference here tho is that this involves the MAIN CAST of characters. These are all people the story revolves around so I feel like it wouldn't be out of place for this to be voiced (even as a blind player bc the PTs are important characters even if they don't know who Maruki really is)

[@wonderlandzer0]

I think out if all of these, though I like them all, I like Futaba's the most. I kind of like that he didn't drop the "cognitive psience" thing at all.

[@user-nn5dh3cs9s]

I actually preferred reading these scenes than having them voiced. Harder to catch in to his motivation.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

To be honest, after looking back on it myself I kind of agree. Maruki isn't even being subtle in half these conversations.

[@ThatGuyKh1]

@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective that’s kind of the point the phantom thieves would have no way of knowing who he really is

[@NehalKaiLan]

doings god work as always i see

[@yeontanseyebrows5588]

Okay as much as it sucks we didn't get voiced sessions, I 100% understand why they cut these. That's some HEAVY foreshadowing, and also Maruki seems weirdly pushy. Idk I think that dialogue wise the new ones were a lot better since they were considerably more subtle

[@ANightattheOpera28]

WILD that they cut these. The voice acting is already top notch in this game. Plus it adds more than what we had previously and makes the Maruki World make more sense.

[@betsareoff6821]

Oh I just noticed! These lines were used... (SPOILERS) ...in the third semester when you're having the Maruki dream! There are a few lines word for word in this that was in the dream (though distorted). That explains why Yusuke isn't in the dream, since there were never those voice lines to begin with. I'm kinda glad they didn't keep these in, since it would've made it very obvious it was Maruki who was the cause of the dream (and third semester). And I just realised that THIS IS THE REASON WHY MARUKI KNOWS MORGANA WANTS TO BE HUMAN! Futaba told him originally!

[@yordicheung6921]

Why did they not add it to the final product? Just like 3rd awakenings. It feels so empty for no reason at all because as you see it is actually recorded.

[@instinctive3066]

Ok, some of these really should have been in the game, I’m talking about the third awakenings and these counseling sessions

[@idea4965]

I have the feeling that in Maruki's reality everything is going to go to hell

[@TheBrutalSax]

I wish the sessions in the final cut were voiced, but I see why these were scrapped. Dr. Maruki being the antagonist of the 3rd semester was already somewhat predictable as I fail to see why they’d make a new villain to introduce them after Yaldabaoth (despite not being introduced early on, he was at least disguised as Igor the whole game), Jose didn’t seem like he’d have a role in the story either, and Kasumi was already advertised as the new party member. However, they kept his powers as an element of surprise. I feel like these sessions foreshadow his abilities a little too hard to the point where the whole plot of 3rd semester would’ve been predictable (minus the Kasumi twist). All of these emphasize on “make your desires into reality” in a game where the word “desire” is tied deeply to the game’s overall plot and lore.

[@princecharming8125]

Got damn you Maruki, once I said no you draw me back in to yes

[@yeontanseyebrows5588]

I keep running into you everywhere 💀

[@princecharming8125]

@@yeontanseyebrows5588 Maruki: What is up with the 💀? I offered the ideal perfect reality with no critics fears there. Don't worry, I rigid your reality to make you no sayers suffer massive allot more. Don't worry, all you no will understand I was right all along

[@yeontanseyebrows5588]

@@princecharming8125 just meant it is surprising I keep finding you in these comment sections by coincidence. I wouldn't even be against such a reality so🙌🏻

[@princecharming8125]

@@yeontanseyebrows5588 Maruki: Good. What exactly is your happiness?

[@yeontanseyebrows5588]

@@princecharming8125 gosh that is a hard question. I'm not sure, I don't really feel like I ever get anything done since I always set such unrealistic goals for myself while already struggling with smaller ones. I have a hard time just doing daily things something so I guess I'm just happy when I manage to actually get something done, and when my friends are happy. They deserve it after everything they've gone through

[@asra-5180]

The spaces after the ! and ? hurt me as a translator.

[@FazPersona]

Is that a thing ? non-native english speaker here so yeah, I always thought that I need to use a space after a word.

[@partyinpiplup7883]

@@FazPersona No you are supposed to use a space after a !, ?, and .

[@MikulOnIce85]

Me after listening to futaba's conversation: wow, I didn't think I could like her more but somehow I do. And after I heard her talking about psychology terms and learning them because her mum's work influenced her, the more I feel comparing Futaba to Nanako is doing Futaba a big disservice.

[@ashunifallstevity8323]

Not the implication that Futaba is more complex than Nanako. She isn't. Nanako is just as complex despite being a child, exploring child neglect and childhood depression / suicidality.

[@Simke_Cloud]

Maruki ❤️❤️

[@seangaming8229]

15:07 Oh no. Haru's voice is coming out of Maruki 😂

[@tikprpro03]

You know what, if a "Persona 5 the Royal Animation" were to ever happen, they should use these unused lines for Maruki's voice in the English dub instead of recasting a new actor!

[@IceBr8kr]

For those of you that did not like the video or subscribe with notifications please do. If you did not like the video but liked this comment I will steal your heart

[@DecimaDragonoid]

I wonder if these voice lines will be used in the PS5 version since it’s been announced. Probably not… Though it would be nice!

[@nikoladedic6623]

You would have to change the dialogue to fit the voiced lines.

[@DecimaDragonoid]

@@nikoladedic6623, does that take a bit more programming and tweaking to do that?

[@nikoladedic6623]

@@DecimaDragonoid It seems that these voice lines were part of the original script before re-edited into the current version. Which is why no Yusuke.

[@DecimaDragonoid]

@@nikoladedic6623, I see. It’s still a shame I couldn’t hear these extra dialogues in my playthrough.

[@allanlugo3801]

Everyday we stray further away from the true persona.

[@princecharming8125]

If I were in P5R: My power is a fairy godfather. I can't say fairy godmother because I'm a dude. " What do you wish to do as a career choice? Whatever it is I can grant you complete understanding plus all knowledge you will learn in that field, you will instantly know everything by hard starting now."

[@homerlol9058]

Man Maruki is just such a kind man

[@TheDEATHBOOM]

I like the dialogue in the main game more though it more subtle.

[@LeoLucisCaelum7789]

My favorite antagonist in video games So amazing 😉

[@otakupower1048]

I was saying to myself while playing why aren’t these voiced I’m surprised it was actually considered. I feel like it would have been much better and impactful for the 3rd semester.

[@oblivioath3323]

Personally I feel like the counseling sessions with Maruki should have been voiced. Considering his role in the game, it would have a much larger impact on the plot and more memorable. Such a shame they didn’t add it in 😔

[@DarkshadowXD63]

This man is no villain

[@bentowles1266]

I swear to god I got the Ryuji and Makoto ones...

[@RyneMcKinney]

I would've loved these

[@niblet8308]

it's amazing how he can understand and sympathize with so many different personalities, he's quite the admirable councilor

[@sparklingraine]

His insanity is showing a little more like this

[@yeontanseyebrows5588]

Honestly. I mean he still doesn't come off as evil or anything, but he's a lot more pushy in these. I think that dialogue wise I prefer the new ones

[@GabePlaysYT]

Why in the world were these never used in the game? they partially use them in the game as-is!

[@phenompy]

Weren't these voiced in the japanese release? And I don't mean in the western release with the japanese dub, but the actual Japanese release last year.

[@FazPersona]

No

[@supercherries5119]

Still confused. I thought a person needs to witness Morgana talking in the metaverse in order to hear him talk in the real world. It's the reason Sae can't hear Morgana talk despite having gone to the Metaverse. And Zenkichi can hear him because he witnessed him talk.

[@mrex666productions7]

Is it me or some of these paragraphs should a lot different than the in game subs too?

[@ai_hi5115]

mmm maruki

[@minlow7831]

There was no reason these shouldn’t have been used

[@fagitocumaeda]

im feeling robbed

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

This channel is just making me not like this game as much as I did lol

[@jackflynn412]

Why did they remove this much content

[@maverick5169]

Let ThoughtBubble see this

[@zayn6699]

I am sad this wasn't included

[@akirayama1534]

I wonder why these weren’t used?

[@mrex666productions7]

They literally last minute overhauled the text and didn't have enough time/cannot be bothered to reaudit.

[@TMSonicFan47]

Spoilers This has nothing to do with the video, but I’m curious: do you know what happens if you lose the 1-on-1 fight with Sumire? Do you just Game Over or is there a scripted scene that happens when your HP is low?

[@mrex666productions7]

Game over. It's the same as dying to any other fight in Jan 2 or Jan 9. Harry type C has a video about it.

[@CheesyLizzy]

Wait, aren't these the same as the convos in the game but voiced? Why aren't the voices in the game?

[@violaashworth8122]

There are lines and such that aren't in the game! It was to keep one's guard down. If it wasn't voiced then people tend to pay less attention.

[@kenjones8756]

Why do I feel like some of these were actually in the game?

[@indiepunkcrow]

When you go into the new year and Ren has his "dream" in the school, you hear clips of these.

[@hallowjupiter6305]

These not being included in the game baffles me. If I remember correctly these sessions weren't voiced in the final cut, and were written pretty similarly. So at that point why not use the voiced versions? You already payed the voice actors for it, so why use a very similar non-voiced version? It just feels like a waste of money at that point

[@flareb99]

Why arent the used ones voiced, I thought atlus west just translates? Is this the original translated version and then they themselves changed it? I'm very confused

[@FazPersona]

How are you confused? This isn’t about the language. The used ones are a bit different and NOT voiced

[@Sammerthehammer41]

I am Ferdinand von Aier

[@mcstroyer9264]

ryuji has no dreams

[@LeoLucisCaelum7789]

9:40 shut up morgana

[@Jfray252]

Morgana: You’re not supposed to speak

[@user-el8no9zh4b]

Is it not voiced in japanesse to?

[@treyla140]

Are these voiced in original dub?

[@pilotsayshello1758]

you mean vanilla p5? of course not

[@treyla140]

@@pilotsayshello1758 uh no, I mean japanese version of P5R. I was wondering of it's west-only thing

[@pilotsayshello1758]

@@treyla140 oh then yes actually. there are japanese versions just not used

[@namishusband818]

Is there a mod to include the voice lines?

[@FazPersona]

I'm working on that

[@namishusband818]

@@FazPersona Cool, thanks! I'd love to install a mod that includes unused voicework for all of the extra scenes in P5R.

[@FazPersona]

thats the plan :)