How to Guide | Virtual Desktop for Wireless VR | Quest 3 & Pico 4 | Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@SimHangerFS]

See my follow up video here… kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3XCi4utm9GherMsi=uZciCcqq7e9nFIWO

[@r_r_a_m6916]

Hey, so if I wanna play a steam vr game on my quest 3, I get virtual desktop and connect it and I can play it wirelessly? Thanks for the video

[@SimHangerFS]

@@r_r_a_m6916 depending on the game. Otherwise in steam settings change runtime back to steam and you’re away.

[@scottyd035ntknow]

Thank you for this. I don't know how many other videos I've watched where they just assume you know how to get into VR or exactly everything to click that they've done a million times but don't realize newbies aren't going to magically know a "duh" step. Like... how to get into actual VR from Virtual Desktop.

[@kurtheil439]

Thanks Mark. There are a lot of videos out there that just say start MSFS. No explanation how to do that. You clarified the relationship of these applications, not to mention needed settings. You are a lifesaver! Thanks for the level of detail you offer.

[@MrParesht]

Hmmm , I dont thiink many just write " Start MSFS " ... . Good Video though.

[@sep2345]

Thanks very much Mark. This was very helpful! Very much appreciated! Can’t wait to try OpenXR for virtual desktop. Hope it will be released soon!

[@antoniox2241]

Im so glad i had no issues with any if this, already had a very beefy pc with 6g before i even baught my meta 3, im having way to much fun with this virtual shit

[@major_dire_rear9075]

You legend. Quest owners NEED this video!

[@jackr.749]

Also depending on one's computer hardware, that "SnapDragon Super Resolution" upscaling seems to work well, I have my settings set to "high" and use that upscaling and it seems to work well on a Ryzen 5600x CPU with a FTW3 3080ti. I can also go into SteamVR settings and mess with the per application video settings up up or down the SteamVR resolution until I get good results for both clarity and performance. :)

[@Despiser25]

Thanks dude! If someone would have told me to use Virtual Desktop to play games Id a laughed out loud. Can we avoid Steam?

[@MavUK6666]

Great video once again Mark, thank you! Couldn't help notice you were in Malta there when you entered the flight ;)

[@markchurch5273]

Thank you. Good video Mark, clear and to the point. Nicely done.

[@peterallen7528]

Great vid. Thanks. New VDXR 1.29.4 Beta is brilliant BTW. Problem with getting the XR Toolkit menu up but developer aware. But I’m getting a good increase in FPS of round 6 - 15 in MSFS and great clarity and sharpness. Hitting up to 60 fps depending on the environment but never below 50 - was around 44/45 previously. 4090 & i9 13900

[@colinbaldry129]

Great video Mark, I love VDXR, thanks for your help with explaining how to get it working. The results are amazing.

[@hilljonathon]

Virtual Desktop XR (OpenXR) is great, that video that is coming out next week. I'm running Pico4, Ryzen 7 5800x3d, and RTX4070ti, and running OpenXR bypassing steam gave a noticeable performance increase. Will likely be a godsend with us non 4090 users. On Ultra in virtual desktop, TAA 100% render scale, other settings on high and ultra in MSFS SteamVR: 20fps VDXR: 38-40 fps Could probably even push godlike if I lowered all the ingame settings but found a middle ground I like.

[@SoapMDQ1]

Could you provide an explanation or a video on how to bypass steam? Please. Thanks

[@hilljonathon]

@@SoapMDQ1 hey checked the video SimHanger posted a week after this one

[@ihar7103]

100%

[@chrispatton7215]

Great video. Thank you very much. Seems somewhat complex but I'll get it figured out eventually. Not sure how SteamVR fits into the puzzle. I guess I still need SteamVR even if I'm running MSFS 2020 from a local installation (not using the SteamVR version of MSFS 2020).

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes, for VD it uses Steam, however in my next video I’ll show you how to bypass steam all together.

[@chrispatton7215]

@SimHangerFS thank you very much. I really appreciate your videos.

[@Ard1400]

Thanks again for the great video. Can you make a video about the VR settings is MSFS?

[@FJano12]

Link cable connection on the quest 3 needs fixed I can barely connect to my pc.

[@MrDromp]

It should be mentioned that AV1 requires a RTX 4000 or RX7000 Card.

[@michaelduernecker684]

Hello Marc. Thank you very much. A Question: Works Pico 4 with OpenXR Tool and Open Composit OpenXR. At the Moment i fly with 4090 and G2 MSFS, DCS, Xplane 11, 12 For X Plane i need Open Composit. Thank you

[@thomaswiik3810]

Thank you veery much for this :)

[@carpless]

much appreciated for us newbies...

[@Ard1400]

Thanks!! Great video.

[@TENGILL]

Thank you for this, i needed the help!

[@CesarLostaunau]

Hi! Great instructions, but how can I get rid of the performance overlay? Can anyone help? What button/action do I need to take?

[@SimHangerFS]

Press both controller joysticks at the same time to enable/disable.

[@WoWSondo]

New Steam VR 2.0 or something like that think just happen today. Would be nice if they got it running good.

[@SimHangerFS]

In the tutorial I am using SteamVR 2.0

[@SimHangerFS]

I had a similar issue, until I changed cable. It’s very fussy.

[@videofullydone]

Thank you Mark. I may have missed it, but how did you get your FPS to 45fps in this and the follow-on video? I have VDXR and OpenXR Toolkit installed and running MSFS2020 (pc version, not Steam), but I can't seem to find the setting to target 45fps. I have a Meta Quest 3 headset.

[@SimHangerFS]

@@videofullydone set to half refresh rate. Headset running at 90hz, so 50% is 45fps.

[@stachowi]

Wow this was so helpful thank you

[@jentjedragonfly]

Hi thank you for the video I had a question. Why just not start in Steam VR with Microsoft Flight Simulator why do people do that in Virtual desktop? I never understood anything about Virtual desktop. Would you please explain that to me? Thank you.

[@bungallowbill]

Any thoughts on VDxr vs Air link? Just bought a Q3 and not sure which app to use. Thanks!

[@woosaabee]

So I got the virtual desktop installed on both my windows 11 computer and Mac mini with streamer. The both show up on my head set but when i lunch the Apple TV app , only the audio comes through. No video/picture. Any suggestions how to fix this?

[@Killcycle]

And how does it work, if I bought MSFS 2020 via MS Store and not via steam, so I can't use Steam VR?

[@retrowrath9374]

VR's number one thing is low latecy and 40ms is not in any sense of the word low latency, it's like playing a game on your TV with double latency

[@MrEnagee]

Hi @SimHangerFS could you please tell me how i get the Openxr collumn on the left handside of steamVR settings? Thanks

[@tangocharlie9291]

2:10 says your pc needs to be connected to your router via Ethernet, then you note to make sure the headset and pc are on the same wireless network.?. My pc is in my basement, wireless, and I don’t have great speeds down there. Are you talking about a second router just for VR to PC? Thanks!

[@tokenfinnishguy8714]

The ideal setup to PCVR is to have your PC plugged into your router with an ethernet cable, and your VR glasses being connected over wifi to the same router. Main thing: The two devices want to talk to each other through the same wifi network.

[@LouLope]

Thanks!

[@ukaszwasniewski7668]

Virtual desktop is better for flight simulator then airlink?

[@msulkey]

When launching MSFS, I can only launch it from Steam. Do I need to install it somehow to my desktop?

[@caaront]

I had to refund Virtual Desktop from the meta store. I have it on my PC from the Oculus store and have since I had the first released Oculus headset (consumer version). But the meta store version would wreak havoc on my PC once I fired it up and connected to my desktop with the Quest 3. It would open my Edge browser and about 25 tabs of all different websites, and more, it was crazy.

[@antoniox2241]

Very strange lol

[@foxart4077]

thanks for you video, Seeking advice from you: I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS. I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS, and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory. However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible. I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions. I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network. I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating. Thank you all for your help! My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.

[@SimHangerFS]

Your system seems up to the task, although the 4060ti is likely to be at its limit. Check you have updated VD (in headset and on desktop) and Quest 3, both have had recent updates. Try with one of the default aircraft to test if it is the add on aircraft.

[@foxart4077]

@@SimHangerFS thanks for the quick reply. I done all the jobs I can guest the reason maybe: Update, set up. It looks games running ok. But trouble all with the F10 map , 2-3 times later ,It will go wrong always.

[@vangoghoff5521]

Thankyou :)

[@PepuDrummer527]

What if I want to use the quest with the link cable?

[@StillBigWill44]

Confused. How can my pc be on the same wireless network as my Q3 if it’s plugged directly into Ethernet?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@StillBigWill44 enable wireless. Both can function simultaneously

[@paularrowsmith6829]

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but to use VR on PC you need to have your PC hardwired into your router ?

[@SimHangerFS]

For VD you need it, recommended generally for VR as it provides best strength and stability of signal.

[@joxerra]

Sorry, because I'm a newbee... I'm running MSFS with Quest cable and Quest Oculus PC app... I've been told that I need Virtual Desktop to obtain better image quality... but I understand it is just for running via WIFI? I'm not sure if I understand where is the gaining over cable... the cable doesn't bother me...

[@SimHangerFS]

Various config options in VD can assist with clarity, subject to your system.

[@joxerra]

@@SimHangerFS TKS!!

[@phillea708]

Hello, can you please advise, I bought msfs, I have a quest 3,but I'm using a gaming laptop, rtx 3060 graphics card, I'm new to pcvr gaming, I still cannot get msfs running at all only in flat screen and it runs very good, I'm confused with all the settings, I have been following your video, I do not know with the codex, which one do I use?, regards Phil

[@SimHangerFS]

Use the Oculus runtime.

[@steveflynn9279]

I've running with a Pimax Crystal. Any advantage of using Virtual Desktop versus PimaxXR? I've tried to use SteamVR so I could use the OVR Toolkit but performance is very poor.

[@SimHangerFS]

No advantage, stick with PimaxVR

[@steveflynn9279]

Thanks

[@delbertcarlin6852]

Does this work for the MS store version of MSFS as well? Or just the Steam version?

[@SimHangerFS]

Both versions

[@zachariusthethird6627]

What setting on vd would you recommend for a 2070 max q laptop? With i7 16gb ram

[@SimHangerFS]

Not sure, you will struggle with that level of GPU I’m afraid.

[@zachariusthethird6627]

@SimHangerFS I don't mean for flight simulator I mean for star wars squadrons

[@MD_ezloa4]

why does virtual desktop leaving by its self

[@YuJay]

I heard Meta didn't even bother updating the PC Quest/Rift app (and have no intention to) and is a hot garbage mess for the Quest 3 PC Link..

[@SimHangerFS]

PC link works for me. No problems so far, I find Airlink better though.

[@SiwertJonasson]

Hi Mark! How to see FPS in Virtual Desktop?

[@SimHangerFS]

Enabled performance monitoring in VD settings.

[@carpless]

Now will not run think the steamer update has broken it.

[@StephaneFaudemer]

i have tested but i have 8 fps and 312 latency !!!! i have 3080TI and 12400K . WIFI 6E . Hight Speed network ( MFS work fine in triple screen 7680X1440) i dont unserstand

[@Murali2388]

Has anyone faced issue with blurry dials with the same setup. The open xr performance overlay is crystal clear. I have a quest 3

[@SimHangerFS]

Use AV1 codec and try turn up the resolution of the headset if possible or use TAA mode in MSFS

[@Murali2388]

Thank you@@SimHangerFS . That worked :)

[@LuisHernandez-z4e]

@@SimHangerFS you need a 4000 series card ,no?

[@SimHangerFS]

@@LuisHernandez-z4e users with 3080ti and 3090 are reporting good results.

[@oldrocker71]

Thanks Mark for your effort. I Dont like VD anymore because of the Annoying Faff to get the App to run with MSFS.I use Steam link or Link wired/Wireless with Quest, Far simpler. GODIN Is Yesterday's News Sadly (His initial success inspired Laziness)..

[@Monolokosito]

GPU Headroom 100% ??? OMG amazing how ??? 😢

[@vianaalimentar1663]

40ms latency to play multiplayer games like apex or fortnite?

[@SimHangerFS]

The latency figure you need to look at from a gaming point of view is the gaming latency….around 8.

[@vianaalimentar1663]

@@SimHangerFS 45ms

[@retrowrath9374]

​@@vianaalimentar1663 There silly people pushing high latency on a app you don't need, they don't understand a thing, it's just cool, Stream VR does it, 45ms is a joke

[@johannesdewald5487]

great video as usual, however the channel seams to become a pure VR channel now.

[@SimHangerFS]

My previous video was on the HPG A160…non VR. Lots of VR at the moment only because the Quest 3 released. Normal transmission will resume shortly 😀

[@theegodelpozo]

Well maybe a signal that you should consider VR.

[@johannesdewald5487]

@@theegodelpozowell I have a 1:1 rebuild King Air Cockpit, still working on HW switches (biggest challenge), 180 deg view, 4090 and I9 etc, do not intend to fly many different a/c, am using MSFS and X-plane 12 and am mainly performing IFR procedures - striving for near perfect immersion. VR to those who like it, I will stay with my Reality. Marks videos are so clear and logic, would like to see more on HW and Software, tools etc.

[@ricseixas1]

And what about meta quest pro?

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes, applies fully to Quest Pro.

[@Nyersevo]

is it healty?

[@FJano12]

no

[@carpless]

is there a stand alone version of msfs2020? if so could we not bypass steam? or i'll just wait till next week lol

[@SimHangerFS]

The version of MSFS has no impact on this. Both can use Steam or other OpenXR run times such as Oculus etc. The issue is VD only offers you the Steam version of OpenXR at the moment. The VirtualdesktopXR option strips away all the ‘’steam’’ bloatware you don’t need, meaning less demand on your resources from processes you’re not using, thus improved performance.

[@carpless]

@@SimHangerFS can’t wait to switch. Thanks for your time. Tried to watch your stream live but it didn’t load. Will watch as normal vid.

[@Redridge07]

air link is better than virtual desktop

[@captainwealthy]

Well after 10 hours of trying to get this to work I have given up. Without doubt the issue here is the wireless sim-link - gimmie a cable headset any day. Now back to my trusty HP Reverb G2. This is going straight back to Currys/PC World in the morning and getting my money back. Christ, it was like pulling teeth all day today. Something ventured, nothing gained! DON'T BUY META QUEST 3.

[@SimHangerFS]

Have you tried Virtual Desktop. Details here kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3XCi4utm9GherMsi=cb-yRKzn_3cjGPxk

[@jennysmith3224]

I waste so much time watching Utube flight simulator VR settings. Flight simulator VR is garbage, you see with awesome VR screens, not sure how much money they sink into their equipment. Don’t waste your time believing you can get a Flight Simulator on your computer, or Meta Oculus to look like what’s shown. VR has a long ways to go before average user can get that quality of screen

[@shawtdusanshawt]

Well, I have PICO Neo 3 Link. I always used DP cable. Now I am thinking to get PICO4 so I tested P3 via wifi. I have RTX4090, 13700K CPU and I bought Asus wifi6 router. I am using VD app and I must say it is not bad compare to DP cable! You lost distance visibility little, but not bad at all.