Unveiling the Neanderthal Connection: How Ancient Genes Influence Autism Today

[@ubidiboo2068]

that is probably my personal missing link! Seriously, id be a great subject for those analysis! i suspected that about me without even knowing the theory before now!

[@crenshawgrinder4725]

You have to simplify the double positives 😂

[@kutay8421]

I have researched 'neanderthals psychosis' on yt and came accross this video. I adored it because recently I have figured it out by myself. I live in middle east, home country for neanderdudes cause of the calcium geology+rain architected caves. Lots of mental issues, messiah complexes, left ventricule asymetry and genius/mad people, and millenia old wars, the only plausable explanation is the one you presented. Additionally glufosate and 5G use may endorse this retro move: scissor out the latest adaptations of Sapiens and cause a reverse evolution to the last saved template: The hibernating, free-diver, emotional roller-coaster, music and verbal enthusiast mentals. Oh btw I thought this message would be short.😂

[@worldofpaleoanthropology]

I bet you hoped it would make a lick of sense too lol

[@kutay8421]

@worldofpaleoanthropology Neanderthal brides have brought up the Rational thinking. And mental issues as well. I hope this one would made the trick 🤭

[@danparish1344]

Why would this even be a hypothesis when African Americans have autism at a higher rate and have much less Neanderthal DNA? I’m sure some genes, human and/or Neanderthal would make someone more or less likely to get autism, but what is the actionable result of this study? It’s just another study that makes the real root cause of the autism explosion in the past few decades purposely confusing.

[@worldofpaleoanthropology]

Citations for any of that?

[@maverickstanding5733]

African Americans are not Africans, they're hybridised with Neanderthals like everyone else outside of Africa.

[@uni-byte]

Are you just randomly looking for associations here, or do you have some strong indicator that Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA might be a causal factor in autism. Do Africans with pure homo sapiens DNA have a lower autism rate, especially when they are subject to the same environmental conditions as people with some Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA? I realize that autism rates in sub-Saharan Africa is about 1/4 that of the US. However, have there been studies showing that Africans without Neanderthal/Denisovan DNA living in the US show the same low rates? Seems very much like grasping at straws or, more likely, gasping for for grant$$$.

[@JelMain]

You need to reverse DSM-5 for starters, because you've bundled mis-diagnosed Giver-Gifted and Genius in with high-functioning Aspies. The whole Dabrowsky thesis is very suspect, because it's taken failures (those who can't, teach) as the reference point in over-excitement, whereas the kids have simply outstripped them quickly. I'm diagnosed high-functioning, but was measured by The Tavistock Clinic as having the General Knowledge of a 14 year old, aged 8. At 11, I was peer to a Russian Oligarch, 14 I made my first permanent mark in the world as a researcher. Teachers knew not to try keeping up. The model the shrinks struggled with placed me as post-doctoral on the edge of The Warburg Institute, a big part of London University's Advanced Studies School, and was accepted by the Head of Yale's Genius School, as it covered some of his own speciality. If a shrink can't follow, it's because he overloads, not because I can't communicate.

[@worldofpaleoanthropology]

Wow 🙄.

[@JelMain]

​@@worldofpaleoanthropology Mary-Elaine Jacobsen developed a concept of Everyday Genius, because although I was probably the definition of top-end when it came to kids IQs (whence the Tavistock - they were building the reference base, and I disproved the worry the first 163 was unique - wonder who he/she was?), I'm certain there's hundreds of thousands more lying wrecked by the roadside. Mankind developed thanks to the breakthroughs of unnamed geniuses. But if you leave it to NeuroTypicals, we'll revert. It's a hundred years since Binet, and 50 since Dabrowsky, and are we any further forwards? No. All psychiatry's done is prove you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. True, the US has started streaming precocious prodigies, but aren't truly doing anything because they drop out at the end of secondary, and have been taught a donkey syllabus in the social sciences. We know how to train to search, but aren't structuring their learning. My most useful Gift is hyperperception, or seer-mediumin my terms. There's too much data to find the questions, and that's where the numinous comes in.

[@worldofpaleoanthropology]

@@JelMain ok...

[@chrisleblanc581]

I read autism research papers, and neuroscience papers every day. I regularly listen to paleogenomic lectures and seminars as well. This is largely meaningless.

[@la7dfa]

I do not read that kind of papers often, but I got the gist of her explanation. Saying something is meaningless without coming up with a contradictioning explanation is worth nothing really.

[@JelMain]

​@@scribblewoman You won't get anywhere, because they circled the wagons with DSM-5. I mean, in one breath, I'm tested at 153-4b aged 60 => mid-160s at peak, in the next, I'm mildly high-functioning Aspie => ASD per DSM-5 => Intellectually challenged. That Nobel Prize is the tie-breaker, and using the same thesis on specialists as shrinks shows the narcissism in the profession. I actually am post-doctoral, and call you out. I think Attwood and co made some serious mistakes, essentially "nobody knows anything about high-functioning aspies, so we'll drop that, they're just aspies, and as there's no sub-categorisation, we'll dispose of that too, they're all autistic". They didn't bother to think before opening their mouths, and in any other sector, would have been run out of town on a rail. It's taken some serious soul-searching to decide which truth is reliable, my lived one, told I was normal while becoming increasingly weird, and the glorious one, 40% of a Peace Prize, top IQ Genius. Two personas, the later one was trimmed back and contextualised causing grief as I killed my aspiration to excellence. The anger from processing that hooked into the fear my childhood CPTSD protected me from, I've worked at high level draining the reflex (ask Bruce Duncan Perry about my nomination of a new perception, of the intangible, which I'm calling Transception out of respect for Maslow's seminal work in the Transpersonal. It's main field runs from the empathic through third sector medicine into the numinous, but other instances are all over the shop).

[@kutay8421]

​@@JelMain Sir did you have got an Brain Scan in 60 years? I wondered if your left and right ventricules have any anti-symmetry volume-wise.

[@JelMain]

@@kutay8421 Yes, during the testing. Firstly an MRI, physiologically normal, electrically hyperactive, then a 24-hour EEG, minimum load 30% at rest, going to near 100%, only vestigial beta phase sleep. I think I rewired accidentally aged 8, so I process my experience live-time rather than in batch beta-phase. I don't have a copy though. I'm pretty sure the work on trauma drain indicates the metaphysical is in the limbic subconscious, not in the cortex where neurotheology's looking.

[@JelMain]

PS I've continued the Gifted angle into Mary-Elaine Jacobsen's Gifted Adult thinking. Craig Wright tentatively agrees I tick his boxes in The Hidden Habits of Genius, as I've a peer-reviewed study extending one of his earlier theses into a deliberate start to the Renaissance. I can date my theological metamorphosis very precisely to a specific Seminary test, indicating Giver-gifted (as opposed to the US usage, precocious-prodigy which only rarely steps up into full hyper-gifts) was a metamorphic development on the genetic/trained potential. Jacobsen differs from Wright in that he sees celebrity as a marker, I see humility as a prerequisite, which aligns with Jacobsen's "everyday genius" concept, opening the door to the top 0.000n% rather than the aberrant wild-card hyper-savant thesis floated in the inter-war years. That relates to the gap in the bell-curve baseline reference group, contiguous to 157, then a gap to 163. That, I now realise, was why The Tavistock Clinic went potty when I cropped up unexpectedly in one of the candidate cohorts for the same in the extension of IQ testing to kids in the 60s. All I had from that was an instruction never to test again (that's the maths), and the data from the first cohort suitability test, a massive GK test where I scored GK of a 14 year old aged 8y6m, having only been allowed to learn to read aged 5y6m. The pre-Binet calculation was 14 / 8.5 = 165%, corroborating the above. They've destroyed the records from the 60s, so the anonymity's firm. That being said, they rechecked the outliers from the cohort study, and then had me back again aged 12, this time to their new Belsize Park offices, doing a fourth test in darkroom conditions, presumably filmed. Please wait - twenty minutes later all hell broke loose as they all wanted to see the raree!

[@iamnotpablo]

Neanderthal DNA has something do with being antisocial?

[@worldofpaleoanthropology]

Having ASD and being antisocial are not the first thing. Let’s make that clear. Second of all, it can be an attribute. That’s all. It’s not responsible for it.

[@JelMain]

No, how you NeuroTypicals treat the NeuroDiverse has everything to do with it. The log's in your eye - it's no wonder we don't want anything to do with your "society", we got the message long ago.