Update #4 on S&W 327 as a CCW (Final Thoughts)

Here I talk about the S&W 327 2" almost a year later of carrying and shooting it.
Stay Safe and Check 360 Oftten!

[@78monte94]

You’ve helped a lot of people fall in love with this gun with your videos and I’m now one of them! Can’t wait to get mine thank you!!

[@vincenzoprudenzano7424]

Ma è vera ? Perché i colpi sembrano finti

[@bk-vf2fz]

One of the better, though-out discussions for CC online. Thank you.

[@longshot7590]

Excellent Review - I appreciate your committing to EDC with this and taking the time to put this review together. I carry S&W M638 Body Guard for summer time fun but just recently have been considering one of these just to get the extra rounds. I'd probably use the Spear in 38+p because I've trained with it in my Body Guard. Thanks again for your efforts to expand my knowledge of this revolver

[@TheYankeeMarshal]

I am ordering one of these tomorrow. If I ever had to stop carrying the gun I do now (Chiappa Rhino 200DS) this would be my carry gun.

[@TheOl1911]

+TheYankeeMarshal oh wow!!! if you get it please do a review as I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!!!

[@conradkelly8101]

+TheOl1911 it would be cool if you did a video on the pug nose where you wear it owb with a t shirt. I'm just curious with that short nose it seems like you wouldn't even have much sticking below the bottom of the t shirt. Looks very concealable

[@itmeng]

+TheOl1911 ever handle/fire a Chiappa? Interested in one of these over a the 200ds.

[@sku32956]

You have to order it here might be the price, just trying to talk to my self in spending that kind of money

[@nono-xw6qd]

Well, where is it? TYM being a liar, no surprise there

[@tmaddrummer]

Another very thorough video. Thanks and Blessings!

[@SingleCoilVoodoo]

Gorgeous, gorgeous weapon

[@dcselwitz]

I enjoy the same magnificent revolver. Thank you for posting.

[@TheOl1911]

+dcselwitz no prob, thanks!

[@GunCollector007]

I saw one used in a gun shop the other day and was so excited but then the guy handed it to me and the side that was face down in the showcase was mangled, I mean it looked like someone dragged it with a chain down the road. What a let down, I would have bought it in a minute if in good shape. Thanks buddy, great video! Love that holster!

[@SuperJulian357]

That’s a beauty! I have a 7shot 686 but this is next in my arsenal. This will be my Monday Wednesday and Friday carry

[@EdUSAF]

Sweet Revolver! Thanks for sharing!

[@TheOl1911]

+Ed USAF thanks - stay tuned as in Jan I will be switching it up

[@caddilacjim]

Great video and good to hear it's working out good for you.

[@TheOl1911]

+Caddilacjim as always thanks for the comment!

[@joebatters5428]

great video, I really enjoy your channel.

[@pronounceword]

I like your video very much. It's really great. I'll keep an eye on your channel. I am your fan and I will support you.

[@BERETTA9mmUSA]

Another great Video, and good job going over the reloading options for revolvers. I see a New carry gun coming in 2016. I vote for the 1911, or Glock 10mm!! It would be great to see either one on a year long test and to hear all your thought on it. Merry Christmas my Friend! Beretta Sr & Young Beretta.

[@TheOl1911]

+BERETTA9mmUSA thanks my friends! In Jan. I will be switching to a different wheelie for "cold weather carry". 1911... I have some thoughts, LOL - but not anytime soon. Glock 10mm, yes...Merry Christmas my friends!!!!!!

[@MidwayShooter]

Great looking and performing system . Good luck in 2016 with it.

[@TheOl1911]

+MidwayShooter thanks but early 2016 I think I'm gonna try a new wheelie...stay tuned!

[@rickyhogan2749]

This is a "GREAT" firearm for CCW, 8RD of .357, very light, and easy concealment. I can not ask for anything better, and it is a Smith&Wesson USA made with one of the best lifetime warranties in the business. Thank you for a Great upload.

[@spokezman]

Thanks for the review !!

[@Greg90731]

Good video for one of my favorite wheel gun. Love all my 8-shots N-Frames actually

[@TheOl1911]

+Greg90731 The N-Frame 8-shot is a force to be reckoned with ;)

[@lancebrown8792]

Excellent review.

[@SuperAriel35]

Love your wheel gun sir. This is my holy grail wheel gun. I save up to buy it one day . Mean while I keep my smith and Wesson 638 5 shot 38 special

[@nomikes4392]

The primary advantage of the moon clip is that all the rounds will eject together. You only should need to hit the ejector rod once. No chance of a round getting caught between the star and frame

[@getparadox]

Insightful video!

[@TheOl1911]

+getparadox thanks!!!!

[@danpedd6554]

Great video. Thx!!!

[@BayouMaccabee]

Beautiful weapon. I really like the 627 version for home protection, so now I need to check out the 327 as a potential CCW.

[@Kevin_Ho70]

Make sure you are sitting down before you check for the price!...lol

[@BayouMaccabee]

@@Kevin_Ho70 Right?!? Unfortunately I did look on Ebay yesterday out of curiosity...$859?!? It's awesome, but not the risk your marriage over a vinyl box set kind of awesome. 😆

[@Kevin_Ho70]

@@BayouMaccabee that is cheap! Prices are usually $1300!

[@LoserJJA79]

Love the Speer short barrel .357 ammo. My choice of ammo as well for my revolver.

[@TheOl1911]

+LoserJJA79 it seems to work very well out of the 2". Good stuff and at times hard to find.

[@williamgrissom1995]

I know what you mean about the Star speedloader's noisiness. But I've been thinking on that, and I believe there is way to carry them without the noise. An elastic carry pouch or a slightly coned leather speeedloader holster would squeeze the ends of the bullets so that their wouldn't be any rattle at all. A speed strip is ok at times, when you have no workable speeedloader option. But a speed strip is just slower than I would want given the choice between the two.

[@StellarBlue1]

I have a hammerless S&W Model 640 in stainless steel. It is nice to have the .357 Magnum capability for self defense but also shoot .38 Special ammo for target practice. The two inch barrel allows for a certain degree of accuracy, but this is a gun for up close work, primarily. Smith and Wesson wheel guns are wonderful guns, almost without a fault. I have nothing against Ruger and Colt, as I own some revolvers by them as well...

[@patricks2120]

I carry one, own, using a done Hume. Plenty comfortable. Shoot 158gr Hydra whom and it groups under 3" at 30feet rapid fire

[@kylewood8327]

Looks nice...with the 8-shots you definitely need a lighter frame material to be able to carry it!

[@darrinrussell9021]

Moon clips way to go

[@vitocarbonara7770]

This gun in the hands of hickok45 he could reach targets at 80 to 100 yards consistantly. This gun in the right hands is much much more

[@jonschroeder896]

Have your competition buddy direct you to better moon clips. Hearthco matches his moon clip to your brass as will TK Custom. Or, you can match your brass (ammo) to your moon clip to get rid of a lot of the wobble. There are leather moon clip carriers designed for concealed carry (del fatti?) available, too

[@TurdFergusson318]

Low .357 expansion out of that short barrel is what kept me on the fence. The self defense ammo is crucial to know what it does in a barrel that short. But I ultimately caved in and don’t regret it.

[@bobjohnson1633]

For short barrels get all copper bullets like a Barnes.

[@urbancowboy9511]

I'm glad you have mention flame cut. I was shooting some 357 mag an flame cut my top side is where your blast shield is..freaking crazy..I told people about flame cutting on a revolver an they look at me all crazy...tell I explain an show them on my cut LOL...

[@TheOl1911]

+Urban Cowboy I have never had flame cutting happen at the top strap area where there is a blast shield... I wonder what loadings you were using? Did you send it back?

[@urbancowboy9511]

+TheOl1911 yeah I was a very hot load 125jhp it on S&W 686 snub nose. yeah call Smith and Wesson they said yeah its Natural and it only cut so deep..Lol I didn't like that cut because it was deep..So lol I traded at a gun show..I have a another 686 really pretty..I don't shoot that load out of this gun..Know that I know..an when I look for new revolvers that are use like at the gun show the first thing I do is check it for flame cut lol also on youtube I saw a video on flame cuts on a revolver was a Ruger sp 101 I think.. and he was showing off his Flame cut on his Ruger I thought you too it was deep 2 and Ruger top strap is thick to lol

[@mikeogden5256]

Love It

[@rylanmartin9040]

I am hoping to get one for Christmas!

[@mortalmonke8844]

Lobo is owned by a nice family in Ely Minnesota! Still good stuff 👍🏻

[@kamikazekunze]

Man, I wish they would have released a 3” that extra inch makes a big difference in velocity. 😢

[@corymihal7789]

i was looking to buy a new ccw gun and was wanting a revoler but im stuck between the smith and wesson bodyguard 38 special with the laser and the ruger lcrx 38 special and was wanting somebodies opinion who knows revolvers like yourself thanks again for your help

[@fixxtorque4157]

327,has some kick to it its beautiful

[@BayouMaccabee]

Definitely a beautiful little ass kicker right there.

[@scottyb1637]

I have this gun and love it. If you were to load 38+p as your carry ammo, would you have a preferred brand? Do I have to worry about cylinder erosion with 38+p?

[@charlieluciano4158]

Nice gun ..pocket size ..👍

[@almaadams3631]

M&P compact 3.5" 13rnd mag. Now: the two options; keep you 40 barrel and buy Underwood 135 150 or 155grn. 40sw HPs. 2) Buy a 357sig barrel ( I like KKM) and any number of loadings will work ( 5 petal Speer gold dot work great in short barrels. I also like Corbon 115grn.) ALL of these bullet and barrel combos will give you more energy, higher capacity, lower recoil, report and muzzle flash. If you must buy a Glock, the same ammo and barrel swaps are just as effective. The M&P 2.0 has a better grip angle and a lower recoil impulse, but if you have been shooting Glocks for 20 years, by all means, stick with what you know.

[@JENSGUY]

Good reviews on this Smith. Can you use 110 grain magnum in this or is it the same as the 340 PD(without the printed warning on the gun) no magnums under 120 grains? Can you replace the red ramp with a night sight like the big dots?

[@elizabethtomev9678]

HI. What brand and thickness of moon clips are / were you using? I can't find anything that fits Gold Dot Speer ammo (same ammo like you). Thank you very much!

[@Cosmystery]

buffalo bore was probably the culprit of the cylinder erosion. they specifically say on the website you should not use certain ammo in those lighter frames and only put them in all steel revolvers. Thats why I prefer and went with the 2.6 inch 627 S&W. 8 shots .357 mag in an all steel frame that can handle the big boy loads and can take a bear if needed :)

[@dougodonnell9606]

I love it

[@majic7071]

Very nice video..

[@ramondominguezb.4411]

Is perfect , for the 333 , 3 meters or less , 3 shots or less, 3 seconds or less

[@heribertovalverde699]

Está súper chingona ésa pistola

[@kbkesq]

Moonclips are great with these too. Agree speed strips are better.

[@aliabdallah4481]

مسدس رائع جدا جدير بالأقتناء للحمايه الشخصيه

[@johnyoungs7453]

Glad to hear that you're over your cylinder erosion problem. I'm thinking on getting one of these as a backup coat or jacket pocket holster gun to replace my Smith model 49 bodyguard, 5-shot .38spcl. revolver, carrying 125-gr. h/p's. What is the "grain weight" of your Hornady "Critical Defense" .357 bullets? Let us know, please..!

[@TheOl1911]

they were 125gr.

[@baba65lou]

love your vids, keep them coming. Of all your carrying revolvers, which is your favorite? 327 pc or 386 night guard. I found a 325 night guard in .45 acp locally but not sure of the recoil. rare gun though. I would appreciate your opinion. Thanks

[@TheOl1911]

+baba65lou definitely the 327 2".

[@williejamehufff3125]

I currently have a lcr 357. I'm looking to upgrade to either a chiappa or this model. Do you have any experience with the 327 night guard? Thanks

[@jesse612]

Thank you for the great videos, very informative and professional. Would you consider the 327 more controllable (less recoil) for consecutive target acquisition then a 340 PD? I appreciate your thoughts, thanks

[@TheOl1911]

I think so because of the size (N-Frame) and grip. More to hold onto and the weight is a tad bit more. I recently did a revisit on this wheelie in 2021 where I took it to the range (Resurrection: The Pug Nose 2021). Granted I was only shooting 38spls but it is controllable for sure. 357 might be a different story. But I do not shoot full house mags through this. But I was use to the recoil, etc...at the time so it didn't phase me much. its definitely a 'speciality' wheelie.

[@treycollier3786]

Nice gun! May get one myself???

[@stevecochran2677]

I like it.

[@mothman-jz8ug]

I like the fact that it looks like it was made from a collection of parts from junk guns. In a defensive situation, the assailant might easily see this thing and not even believe it was a real gun, thus giving the owner the upper hand.

[@NYPATRIOTBX]

i held one yesterday, i couldn't believe how light it was, i might have t trade in my taurus for this one.

[@kendick5734]

NYPATRIOT +$800

[@augestwest1759]

OK, So over the year how is the EROSION factor? This is what I had written about on your first post. I am still thinking about getting this revolver but am still very afraid of the burn off effect. As far as a holster I'm sure there are plenty of them out there by now. Maybe Alian? Of the good old Desanti and so on. Also How are the STAR Speed Loaders? I think there is one other company that makes that type but they are very tall and to carry in a lets say pair of dockers would be uncomfortable. My 5 round loaders were easy to carry in a pair of docker type pants and I would have three in each side. I had a buddy who had a belt made for his speed loaders that held 12 or more I cannot remember but it was for his large frame S&W 357 and he was a competition shooter. Any way I will keep thinking about this revolver as soon as I know it won't blow up in my face after 1,000 rounds. I know you have to use a fast burn ammo, I think you had said that at one point. NOTE: Safariland, HKS, Maxfire, Speedbeez make 8 round speed loaders now. I think over all the 5 star may be the best although a bit shaky. The Maxfire is a slip in round holder that is plastic.

[@josephspitz2778]

If the cant was 15* forward would it print less?

[@MrUC53]

I just watched your video (08/21/18) and I would love to get a chance to shot it at my local gun range. I carry P226 10 rounds

[@dirgramsey6132]

That moon clip went in super fast. Seems like there might be some other reason this guy doesn’t like them. Maybe $$$

[@craziy2006]

What is the speed loader you are using?

[@HalfAssedPrepper]

Where the Moon Clips come in handy on the street is after you cleared the gun and you go to reload the clip keeps all the now empty brass together as a single unit. I don't carry spare moon clips on my person but when reloading quickly I've never had a stubborn or stuck case left in the cylinder after smacking the extractor rod. So when you load up for the day use the clip if you have one, carry extra rounds on speed strips. FWIW

[@TheOl1911]

+HalfAssedPrepper ah that's interesting! thanks

[@aliabdallah4481]

هذا المسدس للمفاجئات ممتاز من حيث النوعيه ومشهور .. سميث ان ويسون ....

[@kbkesq]

I’m going to bob the hammer on my 327pc. I also never use it single action and if you want to with a bobbed hammer just squeeze the trigger a little to get it started.

[@dougcobb8114]

Fool

[@kbkesq]

Since the video a lot of companies make ordinary looking CCW jeans. 221B makes one that I can pocket carry this revolver in front or 4 o’clock pocket.

[@NayokeHenji]

Holy fuck dude... I didn't realize those were snap rounds when you loaded them with the speed strip and I nearly had a heart attack when you fired! LOL

[@suttercorps2099]

I have the same S&W Model 327. Since it has the internal lock on it, I have been hesitant to use it as my daily carry. It looks like you have yours deactivated; so was wondering if you would still use it as a primary carry even with the active internal lock, or simply regulate it to a range gun?

[@TheOl1911]

This is an old vid - but I did carry this wheelie for a while and it worked out fine. I also did put a ton of rounds through this revolver (apparently more so than the average owner according to customer service, haha) and never had any issue with the lock. I did not deactivate it - I never used it though. I have a bunch of S&W wheelies that have the lock and sure I prefer not to have one but honestly I personally never had any issues. I would carry it.

[@theshapeexists]

Sexiest revolver in my opinion

[@Jack-oz4bf]

nothing will beat the smith and Wesson 686 classic beautiful revolver. this one is cool also.

[@SunShine-vr4km]

I love it, i have a TRR8 but i would like to have also a model 29 .. my dream revolver ⚡

[@Elvis68spec]

When you say, you've experienced Cylinder erosion, how often do you clean your Revolver?

[@rylanmartin9040]

It was because of the ammo

[@lidijabacic8348]

jerry miculeks handgun of choice

[@STI2098]

Could be nice to get more specific on the holster you present but omitted brand name or were we can get it…..

[@kbkesq]

Winchester PDX1 .38+P mushrooms great and zero kick.

[@jessicagrecco5813]

This is the best and greatest revolver ever it’s 8 shots guaranteed to save your life in an emergency get to Nagels fire arms in sanantonio or ship it to you to your FFL dealer a must get and have gun

[@CustomWebbers]

Seems like the Gold Dot is out of stock everywhere. Have any other recommendations? Was checking the Hornady Critical Duty .357 Mag 135 Grain, Flex lock? Thoughts?

[@TheOl1911]

+Will Jones (Custom Web Sight) Those rounds are tough to find for some reason. That's why when I see them in stock I buy a case. Midway USA always use to have them in stock? Critical Duty would be mainly for a 4"+ barrel...so I'd skip those for a snubbie. I'd rather use Critical Defense.

[@jkickinutube]

Hey don't sweat the wear marks! It is a tool and I think it looks great!! Cheers! Jon

[@scubaguy007]

I’m not sure how I found your video, but I’d love this gun in a 3”. When I say love, I don’t mean love like, I love pizza, I mean love like I’d marry it for the rest of my life. 😉🖖🏼

[@sonsoftherevolutionarywar9224]

2008 I love pizza 👍👍 2020 I love pizza 🤔🤔👎👎👎

[@Garrett7787]

What grips are these?

[@matthewrobinson4323]

Regarding accuracy with a snubbie, on a recent trip to the range, I set the target at 15 yards instead of my usual 7. Of the 15 rounds fired,13 hit in the kill zone. Two narrowly missed the target. My edc is the Smith and Wesson 442 & 2 speed strips. I've carried it every day since June, 2014, and practice as often as possible.

[@TheOl1911]

+Matthew Robinson thanks for sharing and nice set up!

[@matthewrobinson4323]

***** Thanks

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

I would like one with a 3" barrel.

[@williamsholanda7827]

E uma máquina de verdade

[@michaelfay794]

Where did u get the holster

[@Philly1958]

How do you clean the barrel? Anything special regarding cleaning products.

[@TheOl1911]

+gstea1 barrel cleaning - nah no special products.

[@nicholaslott6163]

I need a OWB holster for this gun that doesn’t take 2-4 weeks to be made ugh....

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Why? Fkn millennials

[@scottpearce7466]

I'd want a minimum of 3" barrel for .357, that's just me!

[@dominictabone5059]

how is this gun compared to the Ruger Redhawk. 357. 2.7inch barrel. it also has 8 shots

[@gutbucket260]

You freaked me out when you loaded the cylinder with the speed strip, closed it up and pulled the trigger. Didn't realize you had loaded it with snap cap rounds. Was waiting for a big bang and a hole in that nice table.

[@johnyoungs7453]

gutbucket: He's loaded with "snap caps". Dummy rounds. No chance of a "bang"..!! Look at the "ammo" carefully..! I agree he should've mentioned that fact, & he didn't.

[@conradkelly8101]

Hey man what do you think of the 327 vs your 686 for edc

[@TheOl1911]

+Conrad Kelly 327 hands down as its a great carry gun but...its not the best in the sense it has such a short barrel and can only handle certain 357 mags... but I really like the 327.

[@user-kq6ef9pt8w]

Intress

[@wc541]

That revolver is beautiful.

[@Philly1958]

Instead of more ammo have you considered a NY reload? J frame in weak side pocket?

[@TheOl1911]

+gstea1 at times yes but...depends. As Clint Smith says, "One is None...Two is One".

[@Americaacp]

How much is his gun?

[@Platanis2008]

Sightings? What sightings do you need for a snub 357? It's the last gun you'll use, with the target probably 10m away...after that, you go for your knife!

[@4425evergreen]

Yak yak yak

[@alphaspartan]

If someone asked me "what is that noise" and it was my speedloaders? I'd say "why it's my coin-purse good sir, do you not barter with gold and silver coin as well?".

[@Diaszurana]

If only this beauty was available in 3 inch...

[@defendingfathers7654]

Have you shot the "Rhino". If so, I does it compare to the S&W 327?

[@TheOl1911]

+Defending Fathers I have never shot that Rhino. I personally do not know anyone that has one.