Updated History of the Pittsburgh Penguins, 2019 Edition

[@grumble7425]

Carlyle did win a Norris Trophy for the Penguins in 1981. Still the Franchise's only Norris trophy winner. Great video.

[@matthewdaley746]

Hard to believe given all their success.

[@grumble7425]

@@matthewdaley746 yeah especially all the other amazing Defensemen they had after Randy Carlyle.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@grumble7425 He's better remembered as being one of the worst Cup-winning coaches ever, than as a player.

[@grumble7425]

@@matthewdaley746 I'm actually old enough to remember watching him play for the Penguins and the Jets. He was a very good defense man in the 80's.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@grumble7425 Good for you, a lot of people don't remember him.

[@bacchigaloupe1]

I can’t believe your almost at 120k! That’s Awesome!

[@chefgoldblum1450]

I'm telling you, someday hes going to get an offer to come do this stuff for TSN or someone similar.

[@matthewdaley746]

@RonnyDonny13 Patience, please.

[@7b8bk95y]

When the Hockey Guy makes a video, he really goes the extra mile. He has jerseys and hats for every team, puts down data in detail on the board, he even dressed his cat in Penguins colors

[@worldwiderecords9220]

holy crap you really wrote all of that. danm

[@VirtualWillE]

I've been waiting so long for this video.. thank you for everything you do, Shannon. it's greatly appreciated!

[@PonAdidas]

I've been a Penguin fan since I was 10 in 1990. I have seen some of the best hockey players the world has ever seen. 15 scoring titles, 7 MVP's, and 5, count them 5, Stanley Cups. Drafting 4 generational talents is almost unheard of, and then winning the Sidney Crosby sweepstakes? This team is special, and I realize how lucky I am as a fan. Thank you for the excellent analysis of my favorite team.

[@matthewdaley746]

I hope that you also realize that for all of their successes they could, and, likely, should, have had so much more.

[@PonAdidas]

For sure, they could have won Cups in 93, 96, 01, and 08, but that's how it goes....

[@matthewdaley746]

@@PonAdidas I'm glad that you enjoy the highs, and, lament the lows, but, don't let it dominate your life, many fans have no such discipline.

[@PonAdidas]

@@matthewdaley746 All good man. I have plenty of hobbies and a well balanced life.

[@romanborris7919]

Well when your team struggles bad, and you have to tank to bring in guys like Lemieux, Crosby, Malkin, Jagr, Fleury (all top 5 draft picks, many of which who played at the same time), how would you not win all that? I’m not tryna tarnish what’s been accomplished, but Pens fans act like their team is immune to losing/ have always been great, when really they built their success falling badly for a decent long while. They were the worst team in the NHL before Lemieux stepped in. They have had many high draft pick generational talents who carried their teams to cups. Nevertheless, it’s easier said than done, and they did not disappoint like we see many teams with stacked talent do.

[@BvG_Venom]

I forgot when they became the Czech National team to try and keep Jagr happy

[@rebeccatrishel]

@Smash A Commie After we traded him!

[@lynyrdskynyrd9742]

@@rebeccatrishel He forced a trade. He demanded to be traded.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lynyrdskynyrd9742 It seemed to be addition by subtraction.

[@sportsrook8282]

Imagine Crosby and Lemieux both playing in their primes. A three peat for the Pens would be possible.

[@matthewdaley746]

Even the great Oilers teams couldn't do it, since the Islanders, no team has even won double-digit Playoff Series in a row.

[@Mach141]

They had terrible chemistry the one year they did play together

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Mach141 Perhaps Lemieux was hurt by the fact that his career was coming to an end.

[@Mach141]

@@matthewdaley746 Crosby looked nervous, his first year, and Mario was on his way out, for the second time. But Mario on his way out is still Mario. Crosby looked intimidated to me.

[@SweeneyBourque]

@@Mach141 they were like 30 years in age difference lol

[@PancakesAndHammers2426]

How could Rick Kehoe be forgotten? The cleanest Pittsburgh Penguins player I have ever seen. Never have and never will like the Penguins, but a lot of respect for the sportsmanship and offensive talent of Rick Kehoe.

[@hugh2hoob668]

Cause he didn't wreck your team lol he wasn't much

[@matthewdaley746]

@@hugh2hoob668 The team was largely forgotten until the 1990s.

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@matthewdaley746 bullshit I was a fan since the 80s

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@matthewdaley746 so the franchise was only a teenager in the 80s in a football town

[@matthewdaley746]

@@hugh2hoob668 I meant by people from outside of Pittsburgh.

[@Tomatohater64]

I vividly remember 1967-1983. Other than the playoff meltdown of 1975 to the Islanders, this team was tough to stomach year after year. Best move they ever made was thoroughly tanking the 1983 season to get Lemieux. And many kudos to Les Binkley, their first netminder, and Greg Polis. Sullivan hated Pouliot's work ethic, which was heavily rumored to be chemically impaired.

[@sinisteroctober-solo2154]

Thank you for making these videos. I've been waiting for this one. I'm a Pens fan my whole life and it's easy to overlook how lucky we were/are to have Lemieux, Jagr, Stevens, Recchi, Francis, Mullen, Nedved, Zubov, Crosby, Malkin, Fleury and so many others. GREAT video, LET'S GO PENS!

[@paulalaniz6697]

Marty Straka

[@looper451]

So if Crosby didn’t lose almost 150 games due to concussion and a lockout, he would EASILY be 200 points higher on this list, meaning he would be only 300 behind Mario. And knowing Sid, that would only take him 4 maybe 5 years at the most to do. Thats insane. Just the fact that Sidney Crosby could have ended his career (ik its not over yet but 150 games in his absolute prime is an insane loss) with 1800 points IN THE MODERN ERA

[@matthewdaley746]

Amazing, that with all their success, the Penguins always seemed to catch a bad break here and there.

[@hugh2hoob668]

Please Crosby will never be on Mario's level

[@hugh2hoob668]

Lemieux played with injury in the most skilled era of the nhl he's better

[@looper451]

Hugh Tahoob Never said he would be on Mario’s level lm just pointing out how many points Sid could have scored

[@matthewdaley746]

@@looper451 The Penguins seem to be collapsing around him now.

[@ryannoyes456]

Great job as always!!!

[@scarbjorn4363]

LET'S GO PENS!!!!!!

[@DARK24-7]

Hockey Guy goes on injured reserve list w/tendinitis in his left hand...

[@titanaustin8246]

i know Im kind of off topic but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released series online ?

[@DARK24-7]

@@titanaustin8246 Sometimes Solarmovies-but not real dependably.

[@samuelfrick3475]

As a Pens fan, thank you for the video!!

[@JHockeyFan]

Komets profile pic? You in Indiana?

[@samuelfrick3475]

Jonathan Zygmunt yep lifelong Hoosier!

[@JHockeyFan]

@@samuelfrick3475 Nice, I'm Valparaiso born and raised (Northwest Indiana)!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@JHockeyFan Interesting locale.

[@ryanusher3508]

Loved watching this😍

[@hugh2hoob668]

People often mention our pre Crosby era but we only missed 4 post seasons from 01/02, 02/03 ,03/04 lockout and 05/06 we made playoffs every year in the 1990s to 2001

[@wilnerolivier7971]

Ken Wregget may not be an all time great!! But his mask featuring Danny Devito's Penguin is definitely a classic.

[@dylanebers8017]

The main reason Kevin Stevens fell off a cliff was because of a really bad drug problem theirs a documentary you can watch it's really interesting and I would personally recommend it.

[@justinwalters7953]

Dylan Ebers he had a drug problem from shattering his face against the Islanders in the playoffs. Learn your history

[@matthewdaley746]

@@justinwalters7953 That's what happens when you're too macho to wear a visor, and, too stupid not to shoot off your mouth. Funny how Larry Murphy had NEITHER ONE of those problems.

[@judgejimbobrowntown7600]

Matthew Daley what kind of job u do ? 🤔let me guess a 9-5 office jockey that has never done anything physical

[@matthewdaley746]

@@judgejimbobrowntown7600 I also don't allow my ego to write checks my body can't cash, and, then blame said shortcomings on drugs. Kevin Stevens was no role model, if you think he is, get professional help, NOW!

[@apointtomake1517]

@@matthewdaley746 It was due to a collision which was helmet to helmet that knocked out Stevens allowing him to fall face first onto the ice (visor does not prevent this). He never physically or mentally recovered from that, and turned to drugs to "deal" with a now miserable life. His skull basically looked like a car windshield that was hit by a softball. He most certainly was not on top of the world and decided to do drugs.

[@jsullivan5823]

Petr nedved video maybe? Thanks again man!

[@brandonwells00]

You absolutely should do the top 10 captains vid!

[@JoshuaResnick-qd7ln]

The Jagr deal was totally about money. Team was bleeding money and couldn’t afford him. Plus he said he was “dying alive” in Pittsburgh.

[@lynyrdskynyrd9742]

He did the Antonio Brown routine to get out .

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lynyrdskynyrd9742 He never again won another Cup.

[@anchitbhagat5595]

Yasss finally, been waiting a long time

[@adamg7984]

Well clear the track for Eddie Shack! Never knew he played on Pittsburgh.

[@tylerp1105]

Yes, do a video on most successful franchises.

[@thomasw3285]

I think a Craig Patrick video would be interesting. As pointed out, he was great at winning big trades in the early to mid 90s. He had to jettison some key players because of $$$ but kept the team competitive by grabbing Lang and Straka off the scrapheap (though his drafting later in the 90s was pretty bad). His trade record 2000 on wards was REALLY bad. Yeah, the team had no money but he basically got nothing for Jagr, Straka, Kasper and Lang (well, literally nothing). Post lockout the team was still a disaster but he did draft in consecutive years Orpik, Whitney, Fleury, Crosby and Malkin. Overall I'd say a solid run but with note without some major shortcomings mixed in.

[@Nickleblanc41]

No mention of the Gudbranson trade? That's the whole reason why Jim Benning got a 3 year extension

[@patch8376]

My father still laments the loss of Reaves.

[@jeffreycherep8264]

I do as well.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@jeffreycherep8264 All part of the business.

[@randyjenereaux5510]

Diehard pens fan here but want to say that the pens and oilers have been two of the luckiest franchises to ever exist. First off, for the pens to get lemieux, one of the best players to ever play the game and then get Crosby is literally insane. Not to mention having jagr and geno to pair with them. The oilers also struck lightning twice to get the best player to ever play the game in Gretzky (if you go by points) and to also get mcdavid decades later just doesn’t seem right to the rest of the league. These are top 10/20 players off all time. I literally just feel bad for other teams bc they deserve players like this too

[@BendOregon67]

GREAT JOB!!! Let's Go Pens!!!

[@dominikheiderer9161]

Nice video!

[@jamiekmett8847]

Brother Shan, I'ma send you some Expos... Just because, look at that damn board... Seriously, thank you for your work!

[@SweeneyBourque]

first Korean stanley cup champion in Jim Paek too

[@justinwilliams1573]

CROSBY IS STILL THE BEST LETS GO PENS

[@hugh2hoob668]

Mario was way better

[@TheCandoRailfan]

Ever heard of McDavid? He surpassed Crosby long ago as the best active individual player.

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@TheCandoRailfan hahaha mcoverrated got his ankles broke by a jobber he will never hoist 3 cups lol

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@TheCandoRailfan yeah the points nor cups nor books say that lol

[@TheCandoRailfan]

@@hugh2hoob668 you idiot, I said player, not team.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

History of the Penguins...lucky like lucky charms to draft 3 generational talents ( espacially Crosby considering the draft lottery that year)...difficulty to manage a cap hit, stole Michel Therrien his Stanley cup for a less capable Dan Bylsma, which they fired when they finally wise up...stuck in limbo now not knowing if its best to explode the core or restructure it again...also almost went bankrupt and got saved by Mario Lemieux money...that was quick !

[@matthewdaley746]

This time though I don't think they bounce back, Sullivan lasts two more years, at most, and, this group doesn't win another Cup.

[@bradcichra6322]

My hand hurts looking at that board

[@romanborris7919]

Fleury 1st overall Crosby 1st overall Malkin 2nd overall ... who wouldn’t have success with all that?

[@matthewdaley746]

Just like the first time, the Penguins won multiple Championships, but, still somehow managed to underachieve.

[@romanborris7919]

Matthew Daley I don’t criticize their recent losses in the playoffs etc, they will always be dangerous with Malkin and Crosby both on that team.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@romanborris7919 Maybe, but, I get the feeling they might be contenders, but, never actually win again, the Islanders seem to have discovered something.

[@romanborris7919]

Matthew Daley apparently, and if other teams in the metro do as well... night night. Well, if that is the case, can’t complain with 3 cups in recent memory. When the Caps finally beat them, they exposed Murray, and got the bounces they’ve been looking for, they’ve always played the Pens well but lost, was bound to happen, but what the islanders did was another level, they could have just outworked them, but maybe you are right and they did discover a weakness.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@romanborris7919 The Islanders basically beat the Penguins in every aspect of the game.

[@theGENIUSofART-understood]

Since 67. pens founded 5 cups won Leafs still trying for ONE.

[@ronfroehlich4697]

Boys of Winter

[@kevinkearney6634]

Can you do a Brian Rafalski career video?

[@trentthurow5696]

Very underrated player imo

[@matthewdaley746]

@@trentthurow5696 Second-best American-born defenseman ever, (Chelios).

[@SverigeiSverige]

Matthew Daley NO!

[@SverigeiSverige]

Matthew Daley Brian Leetch, Mark Howe, Phil Housley better...

[@matthewdaley746]

@@SverigeiSverige Brian Leetch, only won one Cup, Mark Howe, and, Phil Housley, won ZERO Cups.

[@tylerp1105]

Also Sid will most likely pass Yzerman as longest serving captain for a team.

[@SverigeiSverige]

Tyler P more then 20 years!? 😮

[@matthewdaley746]

@@SverigeiSverige I don't think so, because I don't think he cares about that.

[@SweeneyBourque]

Sid and Malkin passed Datsyuk and Zetterberg in playoff stats too suprsed he didn't mention that

[@matthewdaley746]

@@SweeneyBourque The fact that the Penguins seem to be declining may have had something to do with that.

[@SweeneyBourque]

@@matthewdaley746 no it doesn't lol they passed up the 2 best players in playoff totals and don't worry pittsburgh always gets back then back to back to the cup

[@megarollxrgmbroadcasting91]

Yellow Jersey / Logo > Gold

[@kinggoten]

my gosh that board, for a team you hate so much

[@nicksegura742]

I love the penguins third!😁

[@HorseshoeCrab1998]

Forgot to mention that the penguins didn't even sign the guy they picked with the second round pick in the Reaves trade.. Its literally Sundqvist and Kostin for like 50 games of Reaves

[@jeffreycherep8264]

I was extremely disappointed when they traded him away. He was playing very well in that short span.

[@HorseshoeCrab1998]

Jeffrey Cherep never should have traded for him in the first place, plenty of other guys can fight

[@jeffreycherep8264]

@@HorseshoeCrab1998 seeing what Sundqvist has become makes me agree with you. But I don't think he was a bad player with us,either. Of course he could fight,but he was starting to show a bit of a scoring ability.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@jeffreycherep8264 They couldn't keep everyone they wanted.

[@jeffreycherep8264]

Thanks for this video,Shannon. Still waiting for you to join us on the dark side...

[@kevinbudzinski9576]

Around the 14-minute mark Bear makes an appearance 😺

[@thomasdufresne2936]

Wasn't Paul Coffey a captain for the penguins as well?

[@JoshuaResnick-qd7ln]

Thomas Dufresne no he was an alternate never wore the C.

[@thomasdufresne2936]

@@JoshuaResnick-qd7ln Then why does he have a C on his jersey in his 90/91 Upper Deck Hockey card?

[@jumpyg1258]

He wore the A but never the C.

[@thomasdufresne2936]

@@jumpyg1258 Look at Paul Coffey images on google when he was in Pittsburgh, there are some pictures of him with the C on his jersey instead of an A

[@c71score]

@@thomasdufresne2936 Up until Crosby became captain, someone would wear the C every game. Lemieux missed most of the 90-91 regular season and about 20 games the previous, Coffey was the unofficial captain during that time, but donned the C. After Coffey left, Francis wore it when Mario was out. Shannon is just listing official captains.

[@sshurmatz]

Your left hand has to be put on ice after writing all of that stats/ history on the white board.

[@captiankirkgames4385]

My pens days started in 2008

[@JT_1]

are you 11?

[@matthewdaley746]

@@JT_1 He didn't say his age.

[@VividVisionary]

02’ Marc Andre-Fluery 03’ Evgini Malkin 05’ Sydney Crosby You wanna talk about hitting on you’re drafts man. Wow! Not to mention Jagr and Lemieux. Dang.

[@matthewdaley746]

Strange how despite having two multiple Championship teams the prevailing wisdom is that both underachieved.

[@romanborris7919]

Well they tanked to get all that

[@matthewdaley746]

@@romanborris7919 Perhaps, but, it just goes to show how fragile these things really are.

[@romanborris7919]

Matthew Daley they still had to pick ten right guys at the right time, and they did just that. I applaud them for that. And going back to back was epic, as a Caps fan, it pains me, but it’s true. The teams got swagger and I don’t think it’s gone like so many think.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@romanborris7919 I think they'll be good, but, I think the last two years have shown that they probably will not be as good as before.

[@johnnycto7576]

Mario likes his centers, huh.

[@Mach141]

The reason they gave Reaves to Vegas is because they had a hard on for Brassard. There was some shady cap relief/money exchanging sides in this deal, just to get enough cap room for Brassard. Brassard did not do well for them, total trade failure. Vegas wanted Reaves, thats the only way Pens get Brassard. I think Vegas paid part of Brassards salary actually. Thats how bad they wanted Reaves.

[@lynyrdskynyrd9742]

I thought it a mistake to move Reaves. They lose to the Caps that year after Wilson thugged it up. He doesn't do that with Reaves on the Pens. Reaves has put that cheap cocksucker to sleep several times.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@lynyrdskynyrd9742 They were trying to three-peat, and, it backfired.

[@bdonaghu]

Crosby is 32 years old and needs 508 more points to break Lemieux's organizational record. Can he do it?

[@matthewdaley746]

He might.

[@judgejimbobrowntown7600]

Brett Donaghue deff possible I think he became more of a threat as he ages I don’t see him slowing down too much

[@matthewdaley746]

@@judgejimbobrowntown7600 The only thing that might stop him is post-concussion syndrome.

[@BennyOkay]

How did this man gain 10k+ subs in the offseason

[@tonttaana8930]

As a aftermath what would have happen if they didnt trade jagr to capitals and do they suck with Jagr in 2002-06. If they didnt suck no Crosby/malkin picks??. Another one that they draft Pouliot instead Filip Forsberg........why...:). Of course i would have love see Jagr to coming after Khl-years in penguins with 87/71.....but no...:(.

[@aaronwoodward2772]

I like you....good stuff!

[@theGENIUSofART-understood]

holly crap. i gotta let it play out of respect for that board😂

[@HockeyGuy-uj1nl]

Go burgh go.

[@iroulis]

You forgot to mention players lost to Vegas expansion.

[@TheGMan64]

i would've loved to see Sam Steel as a penguin

[@sportsfan7429]

You forgot to mention a Chase Prinski Signing

[@TheHockeyGuy]

I didn't. There are a LOT of entry level deals I haven't mentioned this summer.

[@sportsfan7429]

The Hockey Guy I thought that you may have wanted to know, considering that he was a finalist for the Hobey Baker

[@matthewdaley746]

@@sportsfan7429 He probably thought it wasn't nearly as important as others did.

[@ryanlett1338]

Go Pens Go

[@nathanlarson310]

9:54 HOW ARE YA

[@sportsfan7429]

Hi

[@hugh2hoob668]

*Joe Mullen* was much more important to our franchise than Kehoe

[@matthewdaley746]

Greatest American-born forward ever, second-best American-born player ever, (Chelios).

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@matthewdaley746 Mullen was a 500 goal scorer though and chelios was on a stacked wings team Joe won multiple cups with different teams

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@matthewdaley746 chelios wasn't the best lol Hull Modano Roenick imo were all better he got lucky he was on the wings when he was

[@matthewdaley746]

@@hugh2hoob668 Hull was born in Canada, Modano only won one Cup, Roenick won zero Cups, Chelios also won a Cup with the Canadiens, and, Norris trophies.

[@hugh2hoob668]

@@matthewdaley746 roenick was a beast regardless of cups

[@timsherman7736]

GoFundMe for a green screen for THG to show these trades better?

[@IntoTheVoid96]

ROBOPENGUIN RULES.

[@jtroy23]

The Penguins are the reason there is a draft lottery in the current day NHL. 5 straight years of tanking and drafting top 5.

[@matthewdaley746]

The Oilers are the reasons why you can repeatedly win the lottery, and, still not improve.

[@jumpyg1258]

I'm pretty sure Edmonton has had more top 5 picks than Pittsburgh in the past 20 years.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@jumpyg1258 They haven't been able to do much with them.

[@swisscheese6456]

;)

[@ShantyIrishman]

I only got to see the coked up Kevin Stevens who played for the Rangers

[@matthewdaley746]

If he hadn't been too macho to wear a visor like Larry Murphy did he might have had a career nearly as long as him.

[@apointtomake1517]

@@matthewdaley746 Do you really think a thin plastic visor would prevent his face from shattering when it hit the ice from a distance close to 7 feet, and the weight of a 220+ body behind it? C'mon man.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@apointtomake1517 I think it was better than nothing, he thought he was invincible, God begged to differ.

[@dmonsef]

The most tainted team in NHL history in regards to drafting both Lemieux and Crosby...

[@Big_Mac6]

dmonsef Tainted? How are they tainted? Do you know what that means?

[@nickerrett3533]

@@Big_Mac6 Doubtful. He sounds like a jealous buffoon.

[@dmonsef]

@@Big_Mac6 Yes, I do. Do you know what it means, because I'm not sure you fully understand the whole context of what I said.

[@Big_Mac6]

@@dmonsef So explain how they are tainted....I'd love to hear it.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Big_Mac6 Still waiting.

[@HEPennypackerIndustrialist]

Whit!!