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@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
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@mrschornst
@mrschornst 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand the internet pocket hole hate in general. There are perfectly good uses for all types of joinery in different situations, needs, abilities, capabilities, etc. I have been looking for options for our pantry which is basically a small coat closet size with a regular household door. This video gave me some ideas to potentially mix some of the vertical storage from the previous video along with these types of drawers. Thanks Bob and team!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@turpskadey
@turpskadey 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I'm so disappointed in how rabid people are about it, he had to apologize midvideo for using a technique in CABINET MAKING. 🙄
@jebowlin3879
@jebowlin3879 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of it has to do with the idea of "Purity" of the craft, which is puerile considering there are many examples of antique furniture that used pocket holes, yes the implementation was different but it was older tech back then, some of the issue stems from the fact that pocket holes are used in IKEA type furniture, the major issue with that is, the really cheap furniture is all too often made from some type of particle board, basically sawdust, wood chips and glue, which in turn is so weak that even dovetails wouldn't help
@oKnASty10
@oKnASty10 2 жыл бұрын
So are pockets the BEST most traditional choice for this? No. He COULD have rabbited the bottom panel to sit within the drawer in a groove. BUT pockets are perfectly suitable for this application. The people that complain are the people with a laundry list of projects that will never get done because they feel they need to use THE BEST or the most traditional form of joinery in every piece they make. Or they are the same crowd that says using a CNC is not "real" woodworking. It's the same with the dovetails. Sure he could hand cut every single one but it would be a huge task and take exponentially longer.
@Bward216
@Bward216 2 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with just screwing a bottom panel up into the box frame? Pre drill, glue, and screw every few inches?
@bobbywweaver
@bobbywweaver 2 жыл бұрын
I relate so hard to those sounds you make climbing in and out of awkward spaces. It's absolutely necessary.
@jebowlin3879
@jebowlin3879 2 жыл бұрын
those are Dad sounds LOL
@dafud77
@dafud77 2 жыл бұрын
Just for the trolls, you should build an entire project with pocket holes and flathead screws. It would be so fun reading the comments.
@Sewcialitecrew
@Sewcialitecrew 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yessss I agree!
@Amazing_Gam3r
@Amazing_Gam3r 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket holes aren’t bad
@willusher3297
@willusher3297 2 жыл бұрын
Flathead screws?! You're a monster.
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I watch Fishers haha
@ChgoWildcard777
@ChgoWildcard777 2 жыл бұрын
What's the issue with pocket hole assembly?
@mjohns908
@mjohns908 2 жыл бұрын
Bob, you do not need to defend your pocket holes. You've been a pocket man since before pockets were cool. OG Pocket.
@williamblankenship8209
@williamblankenship8209 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Bob himself hasn’t done dove tails is so wild to me. He is such a great wood worker the fact he is still learning is so inspiring and cool!
@Project_Servotopia
@Project_Servotopia 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say this was pretty well timed. I'm in the early stages of renovating my grandmother's kitchen and would love to put some of these in her base cabinets. Thanks for sharing!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great! I hope it's helpful!
@ChandlerNWilson
@ChandlerNWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Always excited to see which new projects you take on. Thanks for sharing them with us! 😊
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@sandravukovic2901
@sandravukovic2901 2 жыл бұрын
There's something special about your "Hi, I'm Bob" that makes me say "Hi Bob" out loud every single time :)) Good project 👍
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@sandravukovic2901
@sandravukovic2901 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iliketomakestuff 😄😄👋👋
@OzzyCPT
@OzzyCPT 2 жыл бұрын
We've added about 30-40 drawers to our cabinets in the last few months and it's a game changer. Your storage becomes twice as useful. Far less unused space
@janis31
@janis31 2 жыл бұрын
Bob fixed my closet for 5 dollars, thank you, @I Like To Make Stuff !!!!
@Ebnaa
@Ebnaa 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Troll Voice: "you're not a real woodworker if you cut dovetails with a jig" ❤️
@blazmalezic
@blazmalezic 2 жыл бұрын
Anthony’s photo bomb at the end is awesome! And also that bottle of For…by’s :)
@elenalatici9568
@elenalatici9568 Жыл бұрын
Nice dovetails! I'm not going to try that, but this was perfect for what I want to do underneath my work table. Thanks so much. What I live about you is the clarity of your instructions. You'd be amazed at how many carpenters on KZbin assume you know what they're doing with no explanation. Really appreciate that! 🙏🏼
@Autonate_42
@Autonate_42 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he addresses that yes it is a simple method but often the simple method works best for some situations. From my experience working on with metal materials people over complicate processes when the simple options are the best.
@LoganKearsley
@LoganKearsley 2 жыл бұрын
I've done this upgrade in my kitchen and my parents' kitchen and bathroom, and it's been a lifechanger!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
that's great!
@jdcoy
@jdcoy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining having to remove the riving knife. 😅 I'm still new to woodworking and I appreciate those details.
@williamreinhard
@williamreinhard 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched this video yet but I'm excited because I've been wanting to do this exact thing in my kitchen. I usually watch just too see what cool stuff you do, but this time I'll actually be using the info!
@eklevmyr
@eklevmyr 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this drawer construction. It seems easy to measure and easy to get square. I’d do it with box joints, only because I have that jig already and I like the look.
@jameswest6232
@jameswest6232 2 жыл бұрын
I've never been crazy about dovetails. I like this half method and jig since it you save time.
@kylek29
@kylek29 2 жыл бұрын
If you can't adjust the height, I'd just grind the riving knife. I did that with mine and it works great, no more having to disassemble it and it's a quick fix.
@willusher3297
@willusher3297 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this - just hit it with a file/belt-sander/etc. and it'll be safer and easier.
@BR0JASON
@BR0JASON 2 жыл бұрын
I think coming to appreciate (and incorporate) pocket hole joinery is part of a lot of people's woodworking journey if they've learned the craft from KZbin, especially if they gravitate towards the more in-depth, educational channels. I know it was part of mine. You come to learn that they really are the best option for certain projects and situations. James at Stumpy Nubs recently posted an excellent video on the subject. Aside from that, there are always going to be people who need something to feel "superior" about.
@stevejeffery4951
@stevejeffery4951 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thank you. This looks like the perfect solution to the dreaded plastic storage container cupboard.
@mr.robinson1982
@mr.robinson1982 2 жыл бұрын
Worked a long day, fell asleep watching your video, had to go back through to find out the place where I dropped out...Fantastic idea.
@matteomatwallace
@matteomatwallace 2 жыл бұрын
I love that ILTMS is willing to put pocket holes alongside dovetails. Whatever works, works! You should have 3D printed a spacing jig and CNC’d your logo at the front of every drawer, only to spray paint over all of it. Just to piss off every troll at once. @JimmyDiresta would totally do something like that
@timpgod
@timpgod 2 жыл бұрын
Bob, finally, a video that's bringing to life a long sought after dream of mine. I want to do this in my bathroom towel closet cabinet next to my sink, maximize my wife's make up storage by using the full depth of the cabinet However, the cabinet is setup with adjustable pin shelving. I want to design a system for my drawer slides that locks into the pin holes, so no screwing into the cabinet... In case we want to remove it later. Also, planning on making a Fishers shop dovetail table saw jog to help me make this. Thanks for the visuals. Also, my 6yr old says you're his favorite to watch at bedtime.
@Romans828girl
@Romans828girl Жыл бұрын
This is a problem I'm currently trying to figure out with the adjustable shelves and the drawer slides. What did you wind up doing?
@scpatl4now
@scpatl4now Жыл бұрын
I just did a bunch of these that went in the back of an L shaped space so things didn't get lost way in the back. I have a very helpful tip for anyone who finds their trays aren't quite wide enough. Use a couple of washers between your slide and the cleat when you screw them in and you will be just fine. Also, crawling inside of a cabinet to install these was a real pain.
@lionelhernandez34
@lionelhernandez34 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty confident the riving knife assembly has an adjustment for that very reason, I'm almost certain I read that in my sawstop manual. May want to research that, great video thx for sharing
@johngrossnickle8874
@johngrossnickle8874 2 жыл бұрын
Have made some pull out drawers for 38 inch cabinets built over wasted space above staircase. Still have more to do. Good to see how you handled hinges on the doors. Thanks.
@thisisatonofbs
@thisisatonofbs 2 жыл бұрын
Cut a couple of holes in the fronts of each drawer to allow one to grab there rather than where stuff might be resting inside the tray. Just a little extra fancy work on the front face :)
@shapiroyaacov
@shapiroyaacov 2 жыл бұрын
Love the usage of the space under the bottom draw...
@TheHandsomeMatt
@TheHandsomeMatt 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a good upgrade for cabinets. I did it to mine and absolutely will not go back to lower cabinets without drawers
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz 2 жыл бұрын
Usable space is always worth it! Excellent!
@ShyGuySpirit
@ShyGuySpirit 2 жыл бұрын
That is a pretty cool jig for the dovetails.
@CJGiantsKID09
@CJGiantsKID09 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Hopefully the Dovetail-Jig Critics will collide with the Anti-Pocket-Holeeers and we can have positive comments going forward
@mrdaft3272
@mrdaft3272 2 жыл бұрын
This one of the best videos I have seen, and I actually understood what needed to be done from it. I look forward to trying this during the summer when my workshop is not bitter cold.
@jppendleton
@jppendleton 2 жыл бұрын
Nice dolly zoom for the milling montage!
@sapelesteve
@sapelesteve 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Bob! I totally agree with you about both the Dovetails & the Pocket screws! And I am not screwing around with you when I say that! 😂😂🤣🤣👍👍😉😉
@Lorddanielrushton371
@Lorddanielrushton371 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Bob. I've been thinking of doing this to our pantry. And pocket holes are a good tool to have.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
@chitune
@chitune 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and I loved you trick with the wood spacing! Howeve, this just shows me where my limits are, I could never do that myself 🙈 Kudos to you!
@cheeseisgreat24
@cheeseisgreat24 2 жыл бұрын
I've done that pocket hole trick for bottoms before, one thing to note for anyone who wants to do similar and hasn't before, If the Squareness of the finished product matters to your next step, put it up as tight as possible to one side and tight to one of the perpendicular sides, screw in the one side, check for square, then screw in the one other side perpendicular to it, then check it again, then finally drive home the other two sides. This allows you to loosen those last two sides a tad to be able to ensure the finished product is square.
@VividVivix
@VividVivix 2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen creator merch that I'd actually spend my money on, but that M.A.K.E shirt just might be the first
@cadehol
@cadehol 2 жыл бұрын
I would just like to say I noticed the different color grading and I love whatever settings you changed to the raw footage! Reaaaally small detail, but I really liked it…
@JesterZamba
@JesterZamba 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting real New Yankee Workshop vibes from this episode.
@starboy71
@starboy71 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket holes for the WIN!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, Bob! Really well done! 😃 Organization is really important, but even more important is that the trays look amazing in there! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@alkalinedale
@alkalinedale 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, these dovetail jigs seemed super intimidating. Now I have a much better idea on how to use it and what I can do in my kitchen!!!
@MarkSchamel
@MarkSchamel 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your content. Entertaining, educational, and very positive. Thanks Bob.
@ShrednESP
@ShrednESP 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, very clean looking. The pull out drawers made a big difference in our pantry.
@IzzoCello
@IzzoCello 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing custom cabinets for 24 years. I felt your pain when you had half your body in the cabinet and yelling. Good work on the rollouts.
@lumberjackengineering2649
@lumberjackengineering2649 2 жыл бұрын
I just did this exact project to one of my cabinets about a week ago... I can absolutely relate, haha! I can't imagine doing it every day.
@IzzoCello
@IzzoCello 2 жыл бұрын
@@lumberjackengineering2649 it doesn’t happen everyday but when it happens you question your life choices. 😂
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 2 жыл бұрын
In these cases, I like to build panels on the bench that I can just insert in one piece. An inch well spent.
@Mike-In-O-Town
@Mike-In-O-Town 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip # 1 from cutting tons of dovetails. Since most of us have more than one router, chuck up a dovetail bit in one router and a straight cutting bit in the other. First pass, use the straight cutting bit to remove the bunk of the material, then use your dovetail bit on the second pass to establish the dovetail and pins. This process is easier on your tools and bits and leaves a cleaner dovetail with less tear out. Pro tip # 2 from installing lots of cabinets. Only order lower cabinets with full width drawers (i.e. no doors). Way more convenient and efficient than standard box cabinets with doors.
@joegoble2134
@joegoble2134 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Bob! The drawers look great and make an awkward space so much more useable.
@myhandydiy4471
@myhandydiy4471 2 жыл бұрын
great idea bob, its amazing how many people out there don't make use of the available space in their home, love the vids.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@Wilkinson77
@Wilkinson77 2 жыл бұрын
Another example of your imagination, skill and craft at work. Great stuff! Keep it up :0)
@gexus777
@gexus777 2 жыл бұрын
Dovetails! Woo-hoo! 😄 If you get it, you get it😉
@kellysands792
@kellysands792 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing Bob! We are having a new kitchen soon and wanted to have drawers like that as the low cabinets are hard to get at.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
@nerolia_gaming8030
@nerolia_gaming8030 2 жыл бұрын
These drawers look amazing, I love ideas that help utilize the space! Thanks for the video!
@dubya13207
@dubya13207 2 жыл бұрын
holy dolly zoom, batman! also, to add to the pocket hole discussion: your shelf will basically be resting on metal pins. it won't be any weaker than if you'd driven pins in from the outside...but it's sure prettier
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 2 жыл бұрын
You did a great job on those slides. Now you can make full use of the cabinets.
@grahamxs
@grahamxs 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a session on how to fit drawer runners would be helpful. Jeez, they’re always out by a tiny amount!
@charolettwills4358
@charolettwills4358 2 жыл бұрын
Love, love, love this project. You do a great job. Thanks for sharing and teaching us something new
@miggss7941
@miggss7941 2 жыл бұрын
I’m at work and instead of working. I’m watching you make a beautiful drawer.
@asdfjkl426
@asdfjkl426 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I just found your channel last weekend, and I'm really enjoying your work. It's a cool blend of woodworking, home improvement, and technology combined with innovative design and humor sprinkled in. Considering the size your channel and how successful you are, it shocks me that it was not in my youtube feed sooner???
@mmckeeha
@mmckeeha 2 жыл бұрын
First, Bob was the Clamp Champ. Now he is the Pocket Rocket because he was amazingly efficient at drilling the pocket holes and screwing them.
@bmay8818
@bmay8818 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not totally against pocket holes, as they do have their place. But for drawers, I drill 1/4" holes across the joints for the sides and bottoms and glue dowels in, then cut them off. It takes a bit longer but is faster than anything but pocket holes, and it's probably a little stronger and looks better. Anyway, those are nice! I'll have to keep your setup in mind when I build the cabinets in my shop.
@jamesroebuck
@jamesroebuck 2 жыл бұрын
My wife keeps encouraging me to use dove tails on my projects. It's been way too intimidating until I saw this. You've inspired me! Thank you!
@jamesroebuck
@jamesroebuck 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyspecce Good advice. Thanks!
@ruffmade7735
@ruffmade7735 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, Bob! (as always!). Been following for a while and love what you’re doing. This is awesome, because I just started doing the same thing for our master bathroom remodel! I am doing full dovetails and using Porter Cable jig (works exactly like Rockler jig) and using BB plywood. You chose wisely to go with half blind, as it does go much faster since doing pins & tails simultaneously, as well as only needing to tune setup one time. (btw - One way to prevent blowout with plywood is to put sacrificial board in front of the vertical board in jig. It’s a pain, but it works! Keep the projects rolling! Can’t wait to see how Ghia is coming along too!
@niels__vdb
@niels__vdb 2 жыл бұрын
I got gifted some nice planks last week. I was trying to figure out what to do with them. This is the perfect project! Thanks man
@josephmcallister416
@josephmcallister416 2 жыл бұрын
I was just trying to wrap my head around doing something like this! Much appreciated.
@CiceroMonteiro
@CiceroMonteiro 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no Matthias Wandel, you ain't gonna lose me to some pocket role content 😊
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
Great result! Nice use of space Yeah I'd grind down the riving knife. I actually need to do the same (thanks for the reminder!)
@amac9245
@amac9245 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Job. Something about the finished drawers has me craving Thai food.
@bobpatten5710
@bobpatten5710 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool video. This is exactly what I’m hoping to do in our kitchen. Thanks
@ukomdesign
@ukomdesign 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. I love those pull out drawers in the pantry. I really need to make my own.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
You should!
@gkbuilding
@gkbuilding 2 жыл бұрын
Now I have so many ideas going through my head! I will now be adding this to my to do list! Great job!
@toshiahanson6480
@toshiahanson6480 2 жыл бұрын
This kitchen is beautiful Bob!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tagi3d
@tagi3d 2 жыл бұрын
grind the slot in the riving knife a tiny bit so it can seat lower. worked for me!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@tuukka518
@tuukka518 2 жыл бұрын
I was seconds away from asking about the missing riving knife :) well done
@vjaneczko
@vjaneczko 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work! One suggestion if you face a similar project; instead of using the CA glue on the split in the wood, go with a bowtie of a contrasting wood, especially if you're not going to paint it or cover it. Along with the dovetails, it'd be a nice added touch.
@GeneralVolkov
@GeneralVolkov 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the pocket hole front. So long as you've worked out your depth and screw size correctly and it's in an area nobody's gonna see then why give yourself extra work. Especially in the case of drawers where the total drawer amounts could easily be into double digits.
@RobertC906
@RobertC906 2 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, you could of upgraded the hinges to the doors that actually make the doors move out of the way like Ikea doors so you would of only had to clear the hinges. Other than that the drawers and the color of the wood are beautiful.
@maulikjchauhan06
@maulikjchauhan06 2 жыл бұрын
Great work I am thinking the same for my home kitchen cabinet. Got a whole new perspective was thinking ordinary drawers this gives newness.
@wilbard6708
@wilbard6708 2 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about this for a while, your video has convinced me that it's possible and that it is within my ability to do. Thanks!!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@ShaunDsheep777
@ShaunDsheep777 2 жыл бұрын
Bob from ILTMS is basically the Bob Ross of Carpentry...
@withthesehands5799
@withthesehands5799 2 жыл бұрын
Pocket holes are meant for cabinetry! You don't have to apologize for using them for what they are meant for! Great job friend and may the haters always have one sock slide down in their shoes! 😂
@laurawerner
@laurawerner 2 жыл бұрын
I had that same riving knife problem on my Sawstop PCS with a new "10 inch" blade I bought off Amazon. It was some European brand, maybe Freud. I got out a ruler and discovered that the blade measured exactly 250mm. Ten inches is actually *254* mm. Those 4mm were just enough to make the blade shorter than the riving knife. I sent it back and wrote an irate review saying they should update the description to say 250mm rather than 10". I bet you're having the same issue.
@rusticduckfurniture4744
@rusticduckfurniture4744 Жыл бұрын
We love Bob!!!!!
@bob81pizza
@bob81pizza 2 жыл бұрын
Should definitely make sure your drawers are square before the glue is dry. If they're not, it's a much bigger pain to cut a piece to fit the bottom. And it's an easy fix if you check it before they're glued completely.
@oldhatcreations1589
@oldhatcreations1589 2 жыл бұрын
I really like you kept in the long shot of getting into the back of the cabinet to screw in rails. Lets me know I'm not alone when I make weird noises when these things happen... :D
@christophermarcantel2759
@christophermarcantel2759 2 жыл бұрын
Never got the hate for pocket holes. For stuff like this in everyday home use they seem perfect. I don't need intricate kitchen drawers, I need them to work well
@amwtm
@amwtm 2 жыл бұрын
Stumpy Nubs did a show recently where he found historical examples of pocket holes on fine woodworking!
@LisaWilcox
@LisaWilcox 2 жыл бұрын
I think this would also be cool for bathroom cabinets!
@parlundgren2522
@parlundgren2522 2 жыл бұрын
Great project man! Sometimes it's the little upgrades offense home that make the biggest impact. Just moved to a new flat where the kitchen has exactly 3 drawers but tons of big cabinets. Think this would do the trick!
@OldPittsburgh
@OldPittsburgh 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks of or sharing! For the crack in the cherry, you can put a vacuum on it from one end of the crack and glue from the other end and the vacuum will suck the glue into the crack. Just my two cents 🤷🏽
@carlosborquez8864
@carlosborquez8864 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you tried something new
@NINcorp
@NINcorp 2 жыл бұрын
"Blast Gate Closed" Sounds like it is time to automate those gates to open when you power the tool and close when you turn it off!
@sejoki1
@sejoki1 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for not trying to hide the gaps in the dovetails with wood putty. It's still going to show and if it's the first time you've made them this way - why not display that? Nicely done!
@TheTrullGallery
@TheTrullGallery 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the way you said "dovetail" in the intro, like it's some new scary thing. Oh wait - maybe it was! 😂
@saintjproductions
@saintjproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have (more or less) the same issue with deep cabinets where drawers like these will be extremely more useful. This helps me come up with a way to do same in my setup.
@bunnywarren
@bunnywarren 2 жыл бұрын
For the table/cabinet saw have you looked into maglock feather boards? They have strong magnets you can turn on/off and a feather portion to push stuff against the fence before it gets to the saw blade.
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