Upgrade Gear to +15 - No Durability Restore Stones | Summoners War: Chronicles

[@tophersmurf]

Another more efficient method of getting enchantment shards is to farm Kontana field monsters and dissemble to the weapon drops, it’s a slower method but more efficient in the long run. Thanks Chedda.

[@lolloberga]

also rupture is a good source of shard/sky stones but only every other day as distorted sky island gives rune shards instead

[@tophersmurf]

@@lolloberga yeah, I started farming, distorted sky Island, today for some more skystones just in case.

[@DB-qz7se]

question tho, if im stuck at lvling gear to lvl 12-13, dont have any more spare gear to lvl it up to 15, but they all 4 ss stats, can i still proceed to blacksmith and make that gear to mythic altough its not lvl 15, but 13?, what are downsides of that?

[@tophersmurf]

@@DB-qz7se oh for sure. It doesn’t have to be +15. It’s a couple other Stats but there’s plenty of high-level people that have gear that is not +15.

[@DB-qz7se]

ok thanks man@@tophersmurf

[@thenoblegoblin]

@tophersmurf You said farming subjugation is how you should farm for Enhancement Shards. The amount of shards you get is dependent on the quality of the gear you dismantle, subjugation 10 gear is usually epic and only gives you ~7-10 shards, while 1 piece ToH gear is 220 shards. Measuring at a per crystal refresh rate, ToH is by far the best farming method. Over night in Kontana is roughly 5-7 blue items, so while free, it would take weeks to make a significant impact on the overall amount needed.

[@tophersmurf]

But we need that ToH gear for succession…the entire point of the video. Either way it’s going to take awhile so we need a method that we can quick battle or do afk, even rupture sunken runes would be more palatable. Because I am not farming ToH more than I need to, it takes 5-10 min for most people. And most of the player base is casual and can’t manually play the game for 12 hours a day. Min maxers can have fun with that lol.

[@HeirkuGaming]

With new seal, even cheaper to upgrade the 6star items there first then TOH. When this guide was made.

[@tophersmurf]

For sure! Yea this video came out a couple weeks before the Seal change. I actually did that this time around for all my weapons, farmed a bunch of Seal anyway for materials and ended up with some nice 6 star weapons with good sub stats. Was a good bit cheaper and seal was easier and faster to run than ToH. Method still intact though thankfully they haven't nerfed it.

[@HeirkuGaming]

Yep! I used TOH method a bit as well, just posting for others if they see it , to save a bit more as well. @@tophersmurf

[@gladio2225]

Im not sure to get it, but are the type of substats irrelevant until you have +15 on the stuff you plan to use ? and this +15 you made it from something that have the most S level whatever their substats type are because when you forge your equipment to a better one, it will change all substat type ?

[@suivzmoi]

basically, get the good substats item to +15 first and instead of restoring durability, transfer those substats via succession to a dummy 6* item (farm TOH) to restore it.

[@tophersmurf]

Basically, doesn’t really work for a lot of us high-level guys that have everything 3 awakened and with the good subs stats already. But I will definitely be using this when Mythic comes out.

[@anibotic]

Regarding Gears, what shud I do with the 5* gears accumulated from quests & the early raids mainly foggy, caste & waterfall ?

[@tophersmurf]

You can disassemble all of it. If you have any that are very good substats, like AAAA then I would keep that and use it for the succession trick. You can also farm seal now for succession material now if you want.

[@JJonnaTV]

great vid topher!!!

[@terry5789]

Hi there, 6 months later. Could you help me make sure that i undestand it correctly. So now i should farm seal weapons, get good sub stat then Enchant to 15 and succeed to twisted marsh weapon of choice. Then refine sub stat to SSSS then reroll substat. Are these correct? I am a kina player btw.

[@terry5789]

so...is it correct?

[@tophersmurf]

@@terry5789 sorry I’ve been at work all day, have not had a chance to respond. Yes from what you described that is the correct order

[@terry5789]

Thank you sir!

[@angelobolabola5637]

Mind if i ask what's suitable weapon set for kina with the upcoming mythic weapon on global.

[@tophersmurf]

I am personally thinking the best value is going the be the new Twisted Marsh Mythic, the one that gives more ultimate gauge.

[@revynsightz]

Im still confuse 😢 Can you make a new tutorial for a comeback players like me ? Ive tried but somehow it doesn't work I have my old weapon which is a 2 6 star and already+12 So should i make a new weapon and forge till 15 or continue with my current weapon ? Im going to change to farkel weap anyway better to make a new weapon but yeah it still not work 😅 its confusing especially the current image hud is different compare 5 month ago, some people's recommend me to farm at seal but i dunno 😅

[@tophersmurf]

Yea I will try and make a new guide, the process is the same but seal is the better way to go if you are looking to start a new weapons. Why don’t you ping me in the discord and I can try and work you through it in the mean time

[@SSCypher]

can compare the cost of doing succession vs crafting the durability stones? since they are unlimited to craft now

[@tophersmurf]

The enchantment shards cost is so expensive you will go through hundreds of restoration durability stones. Without even going up 1 level. Zeed on average uses about 5pieces of equipment from toh to use in this succession method.

[@dominiccws8970]

You're betting on probability. It's an unknown number. It all boils down to RNG again. So if Zeed wasn't lucky that moment, he would have to use 50 equipment and still not up one level. So it's kinda whacky. Nothing is guaranteed.

[@dominiccws8970]

You will be using crystals to refill energy to farm ToH for the equipment. Isn't that the same as using the crystal to buy enhancement shards to craft durability stones? Wouldn't that save a lot more time? And doing ToH with pubs and randoms could be time wasting with the many fail runs.

[@dominiccws8970]

And don't forget, using equipment succession is not a free process. It uses a lot of gold, skystones, and enhancement shards per succession. It is really expensive too.

[@Zeed93]

Don't forgot it use more gold only but half sky stone....if u use duribilty stone u use double of sky stone..gold easier to get compare sky stone...n that does count u craft the stone with gold...after done all the calculation that why this most efficient cost...the higher the gear + even u use duribilty stone..the cost is to expensive...either u want to spend million of sky stone or million of gold...

[@Pqoq]

I disagree with the best way to farm enhancement shards. I already spent 300 energies in PoG to disassemble those gears, but the rewards were less than what I spent 300 energies on Rupture, granted I could get some dura stones from disassemble, but more often than not, zero stones.

[@tophersmurf]

Most efficient but slow farm is Kontana auto farming the fields like i put in the pinned comment, but subjugation is just the quick and dirty method imo, lots of ways to do it just take your pick

[@peterquach3127]

Most efficient is more farakel and disenchating that stuff

[@tophersmurf]

@@peterquach3127 huh true but I need those haha! I guess after your done with +15 everything your good to do that haha.

[@c0ur5ge4]

I was going to recommend kontana afk grinding as 1 gear is about 60 shards? Iirc. Sometimes u get lucky with the drops sometimes u dont. But its way better than spending energy for it, when u could be farming runes and bol and rainbowmons.

[@peterquach3127]

@@c0ur5ge4 true U can farm everything over time just the fastest and most efficient would be farakel

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

This is also a way to get from Arakna gear to go to Seal gear

[@tophersmurf]

Yes that what I am doing to get my seal gear up to max

[@papatolsreact3202]

Now that we have mythic gear if we upgrade the +15 6*3 to mythic it will still remain +15?

[@tophersmurf]

Yes sir!

[@papatolsreact3202]

Thank you sir you are the best by far

[@papatolsreact3202]

The starting point of the item with really good substats you mean the closer to be on s right ?

[@tophersmurf]

@@papatolsreact3202 correct the first weapon you start with should be as close to full SSSS as possible. Since the refining catalyst are so rare and expensive. Also! I would start this method with 6 star gear from Seal if possible, way cheaper and same results. If you want more help, join the discord in the video description and we can walk you through it.

[@papatolsreact3202]

Thank you a lot king 🎉

[@MrYuritaku]

This method is the same as the way I have been doing so far👍👍👍

[@tophersmurf]

And you kept the secret to yourself! SHAME! Just kidding man I'm so glad I found out, now my mythic gear going to be perfect

[@jojoyap799]

What about the chosen gear. Does it have to be good substats too?

[@tophersmurf]

No that’s the “end piece” that will receive the perfect stats. So save your end piece until the succession

[@Aurenfaei]

Ty so much

[@YourLastWish]

Good stuff. Easiest method still is apply for a visa card with no limit and go have fun

[@tophersmurf]

Oh yea forgot about that method, silly me! 🤣

[@timmzelser5889]

try to get the right substats alrdy while refining with the catalysts, saves u alot of refineing stones

[@timmzelser5889]

more of had the issue of lack in enhancement shards

[@timmzelser5889]

anyway good video 👍

[@tophersmurf]

Yea definitely! If I get a quad roll into Crit damage and its still and A grade I’m keeping that.

[@timmzelser5889]

trying to buy and get enough enhancement shards and keep quipment items in storage like all the farakel gear, and wait for hero raids

[@tophersmurf]

@@timmzelser5889 yea I will be using this method when hero raids comes out so I can +15 the mythic gear quick

[@alvinsalazar6131]

Thanks man

[@albertlee6875]

all of my gear already at awaken 3, sadge . cant do this method i guess

[@tophersmurf]

Yea alot of mine already is too, and I have already used preservation stones to get good sub stats. But I will definitely be using this method once mythic gear comes out.

[@michaelcortez6000]

nice idea

[@m3diok3r]

isnt it a lot cheaper to just use the durability stones should you have a handful of them rather than using this method ?

[@tophersmurf]

Went through 150 stones to get one piece of equipment from 11 to 12. It’s all in the rng. The problem is durability stones use enchantment shards, which are also need to make preservation stones and it’s ridiculously expensive for both. So if you’re not trying to spend hundreds of dollars on crystals to get those materials then farming TOH is way cheaper.

[@eikawatadashi5316]

If the equipment is already at max awaken, is it still efficient to do this way?

[@tophersmurf]

If you equipment is already max awaken it makes it kinda useless as it requires a lot of 2a gear from Farakel Raids. I am in that same boat too. Which is why I am waiting for mythic gear. You can technically do this same technique but with the natural mythic gear drops

[@suivzmoi]

subjugation is not the way to go for equipment shards. rupture will get you more shards per energy used. also a ton more gold and mana. just gotta wait for sunken ruins days. subjugation really only for crafting mats. that is until they unlock hard mode subjugation then we'll see.

[@tophersmurf]

Sunken ruins, still broken auto, unless you’re high enough power to quick battle which many aren’t. I would lose my mind if I farmed sunken ruins but thank you for the suggestion. Farming Kontana AFK better value per energy still (which I put in the pinned comment)

[@suivzmoi]

@@tophersmurf yes it should be done with QB. requirement is actually not that high. if unable to QB Rupture lv5, I argue that he account is nowhere near ready to be trying to +15 things.

[@YellowRadios]

I used this method, 6 weapon only bring to +14 I hate rng, I think it cost too much with 5 weapons

[@tophersmurf]

You’ll farm more mats for it. Still takes time but WAY faster than restore durability stones

[@nikpipi]

Only efficient when your gear is still awaken 2, if not you have to wait for mythic and then you can use this method

[@Zeed93]

Yes...or u can start make new one..n your old a3 gear use on 2nd summoner...

[@nikpipi]

@@Zeed93 not worth it, all my acc is full S now, to build anew and farm those grade again, is horror

[@Zeed93]

@@nikpipi what I mean..use ur main gear 1st...don't +15...while doing 1 new gear make to +15 using this method...once done only replace the gear..n your old gear can move to 2nd summoner...or u can wait mythic..but on mythic will be more expensive...to get all s tier for sub now easier with alot of catalyst..n toh can drop some gear just need 2-5 catalyst gear...plan your progress for long term run...

[@nikpipi]

@@Zeed93 ouh i thought we can succed current acc to mythic? We cant do that?

[@Zeed93]

@@nikpipi we can succeed current a3 to mythic without any penalty...

[@kilz222]

What in the voodoo is this 😂....time to farm

[@tophersmurf]

Right so mad I didn’t do this earlier

[@emostorm7]

Oooohhhh

[@youtub415]

3% to +15 is like winning the lottery

[@rizonoraza6761]

I 1-tapped mine lol

[@tophersmurf]

Yea rng still exists for sure, just the materials (ToH gear) are easier to get than restore durability stones.

[@Skz59400]

still expensive... 3:25 400k gold + 94k skystones per succession this is not a cheap method

[@tophersmurf]

No one ever said cheap, we said no durability stones. It is still cheaper on the Sky stones than the restore stone method

[@virelbramasta]

when i see my gold, yeahh nvrm

[@tophersmurf]

You could do a whole piece to +15 with just the gold from hero area quest from one week.

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

If my game keeps crashing on start and I need 5 attempts to go on this game will in the bin for me EU server trash

[@tophersmurf]

Dang man hoping you find a fix for that.

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

@@tophersmurf I installed on pc now that was way better I wanna swap summ and it kept chrashing on that crappy steam channel

[@tophersmurf]

@@Dr4g0nW00d yea steam was having serious issues for me a couple days ago also

[@Bell-hh3rf]

in b4 com2us nerfs this

[@tophersmurf]

🤣🤣 “unintended interaction”

[@hatch3t424]

i can smell they will nerf this

[@tophersmurf]

Still haven’t yet. It’s not the best route for everyone. Many just power to +15 using restore stones and it works for them. I don’t think they will change this function

[@juliusarevalo4856]

Yeah but it's really not worth the trouble

[@tophersmurf]

I feel that! Thats typically my motto on most things, but it’s more information out there for people to do as they want

[@faridsup]

I feel it's like bug a d they will fix it after this video 😢

[@tophersmurf]

Maybe haha so use it quick haha

[@joefnd]

It's still expensive though. 400k + 300 crystals per succession. Still will take a long time. 😂

[@tophersmurf]

@@joefnd not saying it’s not expensive but I will tell you now gold and skystones are not the problem for many but the durability stones are so expensive for the rng involved. All I know is I spent 150 durability stones and didn’t take a piece from +11 to +12 while Zeed made several items +15 with only a handful of successions. Either way whatever works for you just giving other methods that are not well known about

[@joefnd]

@@tophersmurf yeah my bad. Didn't mean to make it sound like a complain. This way is definitely much better in terms of resources. Completely agree. Thanks Topher!

[@tophersmurf]

@@joefnd your all good man the more conversation the better for the viewers!

[@WhoisBetterToday]

COOL!!! the best guide what i have seen.

[@Zeed93]

Happy that u like it..